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Positives:

40 burger - haven't enjoyed a blowout like this in a long time

Kirk Cousins - for 1 game at least, you looked awesome.

Young guys - Morris did his thing, Ryan Grant looking good, Silas Redd looking good, Niles Paul looking good

Defense - If we can play this way every week, we will play a lot of close games

10 sacks!! - Awesome group effort tying a Redskins record!

Ryan Kerrigan - awesome game, 4 sacks, if my memory is correct I think that ties him with Orakpo and Manley for most sacks in a single game

Special teams - memory might be bad on this one but return game was good, we didn't give up any big returns, no blocked anythings, no major penalties = what I expect our ST to look like

Negatives:

Penalties - still too many for my liking. Detractors will point out the Seahawks led the league in penalties last year and won the SB. Fair point, I will let this slide if the Redskins manage to go the distance this year.

Bacarri Rambo - not sure if fans like him because of his last name or if they believe late round picks should be solid starters. Either way, I'm done with him. Once Nacho gets up to speed I will be happy to see Rambo hit the road. It's not just his poor angles, it's the poor tackling, combined with the fact he let a slow tight end beat him to the end zone. So you're not fast, you can't tackle, and you take poor angles? And you don't play ST either? What the hell are we keeping you for then? The worse part is the fact that Meriweather is one big hit away from an even longer suspension.

NFL trying to get rid of big hits - I understand the league's perspective, they can point to these flags and fines as proof they are trying to make the league safer in the event of another lawsuit. But coaches everywhere preach keeping your head up, and seeing what you tackle. You can't do that and lay the wood anymore, otherwise it's a personal foul. I guess the NFL would rather tacklers risk being paralyzed by keeping their heads tucked in when they tackle vs. have any big hit where the two heads come within a foot of each other.

And finally, the injuries.
RG3 dislocated ankle. Def. not looking good. :(
DeSean Jackson AC joint sprain. day to day.
Roy Helu quad strain, day to day.
Shawn Lauvau: knee inflamation, day to day.

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[quote=mooby;1082806]Positives:

Bacarri Rambo - not sure if fans like him because of his last name or if they believe late round picks should be solid starters. Either way, I'm done with him. Once Nacho gets up to speed I will be happy to see Rambo hit the road. It's not just his poor angles, it's the poor tackling, combined with the fact he let a slow tight end beat him to the end zone. So you're not fast, you can't tackle, and you take poor angles? And you don't play ST either? What the hell are we keeping you for then? The worse part is the fact that Meriweather is one big hit away from an even longer suspension.

[/quote]

Meriweather is still a definite upgrade of Rambo. Pair him with Ihenacho and now the surprising play of Trenton Robinson, we don't look too bad in the Secondary.

Defense looked good all around (i know, it's the jags) but that's what a good defense is SUPPOSED to do to a team like that.

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Taking care of business at home. Congrats to jay for first win. This defense has done exactly what they should have so far this season, I'm ready to see how they play against the eagles. Just a great win and to get rid of the losing streak is huge.

Penalties are bad, but 4 penalties on special teams is horrible.

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What is the average timetable for a dislocated ankle?

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The Skins played an outstanding game. Too many positives to list them all.

RGIII has my sympathy. He has had more than his share of serious injuries.

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[quote=mbedner3420;1082812]What is the average timetable for a dislocated ankle?[/quote]

Depends on the damage really, and each situation is different. I've had 2 and it was a 6 month recovery. I didn't have surgery though. It all depends on whether there is a fracture to go along with the dislocation. It depends on the damage to the ligaments/tendons and if he'll need surgery. You really won't know until after the MRI is complete.

I wouldn't plan on him being back this year to be honest.

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[quote=sevier2;1082809]Meriweather is still a definite upgrade of Rambo. Pair him with Ihenacho and now the surprising play of Trenton Robinson, we don't look too bad in the Secondary.

Defense looked good all around (i know, it's the jags) but that's what a good defense is SUPPOSED to do to a team like that.[/quote]

Our defense looked great against the Texans as well.

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Big Positive: The front seven was balling! Let's hope they can carry that same intensity into Philly next week.

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Positives:
RG3 leaving the game.
DLine
Morris
And my Cousin.


Negatives:
Rambo....he should be cut tomorrow.
D. Hall...he was mediocre all day.
RG3...for being his usual stupid self. Zero vision plus awful throwing mechanics usually get you hurt.

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[quote=saden1;1082818]Positives:
RG3 leaving the game.


Negatives:
RG3...for being his usual stupid self. Zero vision plus awful throwing mechanics usually get you hurt.[/quote]

Seriously? :doh:



:blah:

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[quote=sevier2;1082809]Meriweather is still a definite upgrade of Rambo. Pair him with Ihenacho and now the surprising play of Trenton Robinson, we don't look too bad in the Secondary.

Defense looked good all around (i know, it's the jags) but that's what a good defense is SUPPOSED to do to a team like that.[/quote]

With Meriweather and Clark I like our safety combo, I absolutely think they are an upgrade over Clark and Rambo. But Meriweather, for the rest of his career, will always be one big hit away from an even longer suspension than his previous one. We're talking about his career being on the line. I trust that he's tried to change the way he plays, but it's not up to him at this point. The game is played too fast, mistakes will be made, the problem is any time the refs perceive him to make a mistake on a tackle he will pay in the form of flags, fines, and suspensions. We should know by now he needs to have a solid backup behind him. Rambo isn't that guy.

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Nice to sit back and enjoy a blowout for once, streak ended in style.

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[quote=saden1;1082818]Positives:
RG3 leaving the game.



Negatives:
Rambo....he should be cut tomorrow.
D. Hall...he was mediocre all day.
RG3...for being his usual stupid self. Zero vision plus awful throwing mechanics usually get you hurt.[/quote]

Man, and I thought I was being harsh.

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Positives (in a petty division rivalry way)
we scored more than Philly did.
We gave up less than Philly did.

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[quote=saden1;1082818]Positives:
RG3 leaving the game.
DLine
Morris
And my Cousin.


Negatives:
Rambo....he should be cut tomorrow.
D. Hall...he was mediocre all day.
RG3...for being his usual stupid self. Zero vision plus awful throwing mechanics usually get you hurt.[/quote]

I'm a little disturbed at the fact that some people are happy RG3 was injured...keep it classy...

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[quote=saden1;1082818]Positives:
[B]RG3 leaving the game.[/B]
DLine
Morris
And my Cousin.


Negatives:
Rambo....he should be cut tomorrow.
D. Hall...he was mediocre all day.
RG3...for being his usual stupid self. Zero vision plus awful throwing mechanics usually get you hurt.[/quote]I've never personally attacked anyone in my years on this board, but calling a player's leaving the game a positive after a season-ending injury is crossing the line. You sir, are an A-hole of the highest degree.

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Honestly I be shocked if RGIII ever takes a snap as a Skin again. Totally waste that trade. The guy is glass.

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[quote=saden1;1082818]Positives:
RG3 leaving the game.
DLine
Morris
And my Cousin.


Negatives:
Rambo....he should be cut tomorrow.
D. Hall...he was mediocre all day.
RG3...for being his usual stupid self. Zero vision plus awful throwing mechanics usually get you hurt.[/quote]

Seriously, come on man. Not cool

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1082829]Positives (in a petty division rivalry way)
we scored more than Philly did.
We gave up less than Philly did.[/quote]Not petty at all. Another reason to love how season schedules are set up with the 32 team league. Two enemy divisions we can measure ourselves in the NFCE by. I hope we keep the 16 game reg season, and add no teams.


[quote=saden1;1082818]Positives:
RG3 leaving the game.[/quote]
Petty.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/10929/rapid-reaction-washington-redskins-14]Rapid Reaction: Washington Redskins - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

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What about Tress Way kicking off. If he can take that over than Forbaith can be just a FG kicker. Which is good for us I think.

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TGBM

Thank God for Brandon Meriweather

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Redemption for Haslett, Cousins and Paul. They got run through the ringer by fans and on this site, some of it deserved. But they came out ok. It turns out they were not as bad as most thought.

The [B][U]defense[/U][/B] wow! The obvious: Kerrigan and Jason Hatcher.
Less obvious Chris Baker and Keenan Robinson solid and outstanding. Perry Riley 1,5 sacks. Secondary is improving
Not good: Rambo

[B][U]Offense[/U][/B]:
Obvious: Cousins, Paul, Morris, Helu, A. Roberts
Not so obvious: R. Grant (can't remember a redskin rookie WR contributing in a long time), Offensive Line improved or was it our new QB made it easier.

In the NFL the players that are "playing the best" are not always on the field. Sometimes business and what is invested in player supersedes football.
This had started to happen to us at QB. Sometimes the player deemed with more talent is not playing well and in a slump. RGIII has incredible talent when healthy. He has tough time staying healthy. Plus he never regained his form after his major knee injury.
Some on this site really want to win the trade with St.Louis and are upset. Winning cures that.

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[quote=mredskins;1082833]Honestly I be shocked if RGIII ever takes a snap as a Skin again. Totally waste that trade. The guy is glass.[/quote]

I myself wonder what they will do with him - I think he might be around another year but it wouldn't surprise me if they try and trade him, especially if Cousins plays well and we have a good season.

I understand that they invested alot in him, traded away the future, etc... but draft picks and/or trades go bad all the time. We have always sort of been "cursed" with the number one pick....

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[quote=Defensewins;1082842]Redemption for Haslett, Cousins and Paul. They got run through the ringer by fans and on this site, some of it deserved. But they came out ok. It turns out they were not as bad as most thought.

The [B][U]defense[/U][/B] wow! The obvious: Kerrigan and Jason Hatcher.
Less obvious Chris Baker and Keenan Robinson solid and outstanding. Perry Riley 1,5 sacks. Secondary is improving
Not good: Rambo

[B][U]Offense[/U][/B]:
Obvious: Cousins, Paul, Morris, Helu, A. Roberts
Not so obvious: R. Grant (can't remember a redskin rookie WR contributing in a long time), Offensive Line improved or was it our new QB made it easier.

In the NFL the players that are "playing the best" are not always on the field. Sometimes business and what is invested in player supersedes football.
This had started to happen to us at QB. Sometimes the player deemed with more talent is not playing well and in a slump. RGIII has incredible talent when healthy. He has tough time staying healthy. Plus he never regained his form after his major knee injury.
Some on this site really want to win the trade with St.Louis and are upset. Winning cures that.[/quote]

This makes me think of in 2007 when there was all that noise about how terrible the offensive line was, etc... joe gibbs' coaching, blah blah blah. Jason Campbell goes down with a knee injury, all of a sudden we are in a high-scoring offense and the o-line looks like it recovered over night. Sometimes it really is the QB and i think this is one of those situations...

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I have no problem with saying that I want rg3 out of the game. I really dont care for him at all and I hope we have heard the last of him as a Redskin.

He can't play so why would I want him in the game?

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[quote=saden1;1082846]I have no problem with saying that I want rg3 out of the game. I really dont care for him at all and I hope we have heard the last of him as a Redskin.

He can't play so why would I want him in the game?[/quote]

You can say that with out being ass hole about it. The man gave it his all and left it on the field. He worked his ass off to try and get back. It did not work out. Don't make it personal.

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[quote=mredskins;1082833]Honestly I be shocked if RGIII ever takes a snap as a Skin again. Totally waste that trade. The guy is glass.[/quote]

We can only hope....but you know dannyboy, he is going to want a new marketing tool before rg3 can be discarded for good.

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The permanent hot head routine is getting really old.

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[quote=Defensewins;1082847]You can say that with out being ass hole about it. The man gave it his all and left it on the field. He worked his ass off to try and get back. It did not work out. Don't make it personal.[/quote]

It's not personal and I never made it personal. I commented on his sucky play. And unlike folks here I am not going to grieve his loss.

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This is a great day...I am celebrating!

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[quote=saden1;1082818]Positives:
RG3 leaving the game.
[/quote]

Seriously? I am a long time Redskins fan, and did even have thoughts like this towards Heath Schuler. Griffin was an amazing, almost transcendent talent during the 2012 season pre-injury, and no one was down on him, when he was Rookie of the Year. Pretty classless comment to make.

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Best to not feed the troll. You're just giving him what he wants.

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[quote=Mattyk;1082857]Best to not feed the troll. You're just giving him what he wants.[/quote]
You are right, after reading the whole thread just a lot of negativity from one guy, saden1, towards RG3, a most unhealthy, almost hatred, and aside from watching him on TV and being a fan saden1 has no relationship with RG3. It is pretty sad.

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Any update on the olineman that went down late in the 4th?

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Positives:

Cousins - I dig Cousins. He's an above average QB and I think he will do just fine as starter while RG3 is gone. I'm not going to say he can ball yet, the Jags are f'ing terrible. We'll see how he does against the Eagles and definitely the Seahawks since they have an elite defense.

The receiving core - Roberts, Paul, Grant, Young, they all balled out. Roberts is also doing pretty well as our returner. Thank God for that off-season pickup.

The RBs - Morris, Helu and Redd looked damn good out there. Morris and Redd especially.

The LB core - THERE WAS EVEN AN ORAKPO SIGHTING. Kerrigan... Man... We need to lock him up as a lifetime Redskin. What an amazing show, man.

Trenton Robinson - Came in off the bench and got an INT. That's what you call pinch hitting.

J. Gruden - Props for calling a good game. After RG3 got injured you had to plan around Cousins, who isn't as mobile as RG (no more RO) but did well. Congrats.

Negatives:

RG3 getting injured - Jesus dude, are you ever going to make it through a season again without either sucking or getting injured? Granted, it was a freak injury, but it still sucks. It'll be interesting to see if he'll be able to come back this season, hopefully around the bye.

Polumbus - Man again with the horrible blocking. I totally saw him give up on one play. (I forget which) where they dude, literally RAN BY HIM.

Rambo - Dude, take a seat. Take several seats. You blow big floppy low hanging fruit.

D. Hall - Not only did you get a personal foul, you almost gave up a HUGE gainer downfield, luckily the Jags WR blew more than you did this game.



Not too much bad overall play. Just small individual things.

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I REALLLLLLLLLLLY wanted Rambo to work out (and Phillip Thomas for that matter), but it's not looking good.

No matter, I thought all the "Shanahan is meddling with Haslett" was kind of BS, but part of me really agrees. His defensive schemes looked creative and we had some rookies and backups really contributing. After seeing Chris Baker at NT, Cofield might be able to go back to DE and eat people up like he used to (not that he was bad at NT). LOVE me some Bashaud Breeland. Guy is going to pick up right where D. Hall leaves off when he goes.

Also, an unheralded guy is Trent Murphy. The stat line might not show him, but every time I see him he's either making a pressure or eating up blockers. Only a matter of time before he starts getting the sacks.

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Ryan grant was impressive today. Too me, he's ahead of Robinson. I thought Robinson made a bad holding penalty and couldn't get a first when had blockers in front of him on another play.

I also find it interesting that gruden chooses to use miles paul as the pass catcher instead of Paulson. Paulson is used exclusively to block.

Did anyone notice when cousins came in, the Oline looked immediately better pass blocking? Cousins doesn't hold the ball, he reads and has a has quick trigger. I thought it was obvious between the 2.

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Cousins did a very good job in his interview, he is certainly doing his best to downplay any idea of a QB controversy, "this is Robert's team, and my role hasn't changed," "Thats just the life of a backup quarterback." I don't buy it for a second, but I appreciate that he is trying to keep the focus on the team winning games, as futile as it is.

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[quote=Chico23231;1082875]Ryan grant was impressive today. Too me, he's ahead of Robinson. I thought Robinson made a bad holding penalty and couldn't get a first when had blockers in front of him on another play.

[B]I also find it interesting that gruden chooses to use miles paul as the pass catcher instead of Paulson. Paulson is used exclusively to block.[/B]

Did anyone notice when cousins came in, the Oline looked immediately better pass blocking? Cousins doesn't hold the ball, he reads and has a has quick trigger. I thought it was obvious between the 2.[/quote]Paul is obviously faster and more athletic than Paulson, so that should come as no surprise that he would play Jordan Reed's role in the offense.