Skins vs Eagles Pre Game Thread
 

Big game against probably the best team in the division. I havent been super impressed with Philly but they can be electric.

If you watched the Eagles, they have started extremely slow in both games, only to comeback later for wins in both. So 2-0 really doesnt explain the struggles they've had with the offense, especially in the red zone.

Keys for me is to out physical eagles with O and D line play. Controling the tempo with the run and hitting hard on defense, but making sure we wrap up when we tackle. Eagles love to get the ball in space to their guys so we must have our best tackling day of the season.

I think we cant settle for 3 on the road with an offense that can put up 7 in bunches and Kirk cant throw ints.

Run the ball effectively and we win 28-24 Skins. Cant run the ball and force Kirk to throw the entire game we lose 45-20.

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almost totally agree. lets just pound morris all game long. and foles now seems human, so lets get some pressure, and some ints

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I'm hoping that our d-line can take enough advantage of Philly's poor o-line to slow down Sproles.

We can't f'up in the tackling department, both Sproles and Shady made a lot of the Colts miss last week.

On the offense, I'd like to see a steady dose of Morris. I hope we don't get cute on the playcall (no reverse plays deep in our own territory) and I don't want us to be in a position where we need to pass a lot.

We will need to put the Eagles away, twice already they've come back on teams. If we're up, the offense will need to play ball control to prevent any comebacks.

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Per Cbs Sports..... We are doomed!

Washington (1-1) at Philadelphia (2-0), 1 p.m. ET: The first annual DeSean Jackson revenge game is going to be worth watching on Sunday and not just because it's the first annual DeSean Jackson revenge game. For one, you'll likely get to see the Eagles fall behind by at least 14 points, something they've done in both games so far. After that, you'll probably see the Eagles comeback. Also, as a bonus, you get to see Kirk Cousins make his fifth career start. If you watched Andy Dalton play in Cincinnati, then you know what Jay Gruden can do with a pocket passer. If you didn't watch Dalton play in Cincinnati, well, he won a lot games with Gruden. Just not playoff games. Cousins might end up being a great fit for Gruden's offense. Redskins 27-24 over Eagles.

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It seems to me Philly is a second half team in order to beat them you can't let up and control time of possession. Heavy dose of Alfmo and short passes to open up playaction. I predict it being a low scoring game 17-14 Skins

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Keenan Robinson will shine
Couisins will be solid
D will be solid
Redd will surprise as the backup to Morris

Redskins win

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Im not sure if Rambo made the stat column beside your basic tackle. For a db its like where you at. He didnt do his job on gameday we need players ready to play on an elite level. Even with a vet like Ryan Clark next to him year two and still couldnt get to where he needed to be. Cool name its a shame.

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Skins look good but drop a close one because it's on the road: 28-27.

Then we'll go on a tear, including against Seattle.

my two cents

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I agree that time of possession is very important for the Skins in this game. With the extremely fast pace of the Eagles offense, our offense is going to need to give our defense as much rest as they can. If we have too many three-and-outs, our defense will be gassed in the second half and we'll probably lose.

Hopefully, we can get some early scores, go into the fourth quarter with the lead, and then execute a couple of long scoring drives.

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[quote=Skins4L;1083734]Im not sure if Rambo made the stat column beside your basic tackle. For a db its like where you at. He didnt do his job on gameday we need players ready to play on an elite level. Even with a vet like Ryan Clark next to him year two and still couldnt get to where he needed to be. Cool name its a shame.[/quote]

Are suggesting a bounce back game by Rambo...3 ints, 15 tackles-like performance?

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It's all about turnovers, the run game, and avoiding "3 & Outs."
- Have none of the first;
- Establish and maintain the second;
- Minimize the third.
We win.

Philly's line, even with injury replacements is [B]worlds [/B]above the Jags. Our D needs to avoid the big plays and, hopefully, with Merriweather back, our safety play will improve. They are going to get a couple explosive plays - that's okay so long as it is only a couple. A big part of the game will be whether Amerson and Hall can shut down Cooper and Maclin one on one or with minimal safety help. If safeties can focus on the run and it will significantly slow down Philly.

At one point in the game Monday, John Gruden said Philly's offense has relatively few plays but is based off of singling out a defender, making him choose a path and then attacking the void he leaves. I believe that to be true. I also believe it means that good communication is imperative - knowing, trusting assignments is critical in attacking option based offenses. Get your man/your assignment and trust the guy behind or next to you is doing the same. Only swarm AFTER the offense makes its choice - and then do so FAST.

As for the pace of the Philly offense, it only becomes an issue if you keep giving them the ball through turnovers or by failing to sustain drives. If Luck doesn't toss an interception, if Richardson doesn't fumble - game over Philly.

On offense, Cousins and Alfmo must protect the ball. Period. If they do, Morris and the O-line is going to gash these guys for a ton. TON. of yards. (Assuming Gruden remains true to the run throughout the game! - not a given in light of his past play-calling. The man likes a good game of pitch and catch.)

My biggest concern is that Philly is eminently beatable by any team that can be efficient with the ball on offense and play consistent, disciplined defense.

Does anyone think that "efficient with the ball on offense and play consistent, disciplined defense" describes our team?

With that said, and with a heavy dose of that oh-so-tasty burgundy Kool-Aid:
Skins 27
Eagles 14

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This is one of the four toughest games we have left on the schedule. Hawks, Niners, Birds at home, and this one.
I just want to play them tough where i can say we can beat these guys at home. If we win well that is huge because i think we have an extremely favorable schedule. We have 5-6 gimme games imo.
Skins - 27
Seagulls - 24

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The Skins play a varsity team this week. The O plays fine the D struggles.
Philly 30
Skins 23

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Eagles - 30
Redskins - 21

You gotta wonder which Captain we'll get. The guy that throws multiple INTs and loses a fumble, or the guy that throws for 230 yards, 2 TDs, and no turnovers? I think he'll be somewhere in the middle. Morris will have a 100 yard day for the first time in 10 games, and also add a TD or two against an overrated Eagles' run defense. I think Andre will have a big game as well: 5 catches, 65 yards, 1 TD, and for bonus points, I predict a special teams TD. Kerrigan has the better matchup, but I think Rak has a nice game against one of the league's best. Foles doesn't play well, but McCoy has his 2014 breakout game and carries them past us.

This game could be easily won by us. Foles didn't play well against both Jacksonville and Indianapolis, and I think our defense is better than either of theirs. If Morris has a huge game, Cousins protects the ball, and our defense consistently gets their offense into 3rd and longs, it probably goes our way.

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I think the short week will hurt the Eagles. Skins 24-17. The better D takes this one.

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[quote=punch it in;1083743]This is one of the four toughest games we have left on the schedule. Hawks, Niners, Birds at home, and this one.
I just want to play them tough where i can say we can beat these guys at home. If we win well that is huge because i think we have an extremely favorable schedule. [B]We have 5-6 gimme games imo. [/B]
Skins - 27
Seagulls - 24[/quote]

Whoa! Don't get carried away by the Jags game. We were 3-13 last season and we're playing our backup QB. I don't see any gimmees for the Redskins.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1083765]Whoa! Don't get carried away by the Jags game. We were 3-13 last season and we're playing our backup QB. I don't see any gimmees for the Redskins.[/QUOTE]


Rams,bucs,giants,giant, titans. We win em all.

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I love early season optimism.

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[QUOTE=donofriose;1083767]I love early season optimism.[/QUOTE]


I dont think me thinking we are better than those horrible teams is overly optimistic. My point was i think we are at least a 6 win team. We have one, and we play some other bad teams. So - IF we steal one in Philly that would be huge. There is a difference between saying we are not the worst of the worst and saying we are playoff bound.

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After the Houston game we were heading for a top 5 pick. Now it's playoffs or bust. Too funny.

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I love the pesimmism on this board, skins are a better than most of you think.

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I dont think anybody is saying playoffs of bust. If we beat the Eagles I for one will be thinking it.
Edit: if we play the Eagles tough on the road I will still be thinking it.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1083770]I love the pesimmism on this board, skins are a better than most of you think.[/quote]

Let's see it consistently against good teams before we start jumping up and down. If we come out of this 3 game stretch against Philadelphia, New York, and Seattle with a record of 3-2 or better, I'll start getting excited.

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[QUOTE=SirLK26;1083774]Let's see it consistently against good teams before we start jumping up and down. If we come out of this 3 game stretch against Philadelphia, New York, and Seattle with a record of 3-2 or better, I'll start getting excited.[/QUOTE]


2-3 is probably very realistic. I hope we just are competitive against philly and seattle. I would still be hopeful for a division title since we will get Philly at home later on.

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[quote=Mattyk;1083769]After the Houston game we were heading for a top 5 pick. Now it's playoffs or bust. Too funny.[/quote]

If we win this weekend: playoffs and superbowl talk coming soon to a message board near you.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1083770]I love the pesimmism on this board, skins are a better than most of you think.[/quote]

I agree. We have better players this year. Robinson, Hatcher, Clark, healthy Kerrigan, Roberts, Jackson and this new kid Grant...and honestly, I think KC gives us a better option passing the ball. We can beat Philly.

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[quote=donofriose;1083767]I love early season optimism.[/quote]

I could have sworn the season was already over after the Texans, what a difference that thing called winning does to people... Lol

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For me, but probably only me in the whole world cuz that's how I role, the D is the key. But not in the sense of getting to Foles, or stops behind the line but keeping their offense in front of our defense. One commentator pointed out that their quick count offense can wear out defenses in the first half, and allows for bigger plays in the second half. Given that we don't have the deepest defense, this does concern me.

I think that Cousins throws 2 picks easy, and we have a general shootout, and right now I am not sure if we can win that against even a middle of the road defense.

And 11 penalties will be an automatic loss as well.

I am a few games shy of getting back into the kool-aid spirit.
Skins 24, Iggles >24.

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[QUOTE=spAtt;1083778]I could have sworn the season was already over after the Texans, what a difference that thing called winning does to people... Lol[/QUOTE]


Not funny, normal. Winning breeds hope and losing dont. Lol. Pretty strait forward.

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When we lose a game because we play like the bad news bears I expect pessimism. When we beat (any) team by 31 i expect optimism. Doesn't have to be Superbowl or burn it down but lets all understand the relationship between their play and our opinions of their chances. If we get our asses kicked Sunday I will no longer be hopeful. Lol

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stay medium my friends.

(but it is damn hard with this team)

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1083784]stay medium my friends.



(but it is damn hard with this team)[/QUOTE]


Lmao. Exactly. Why is it frowned upon if you get un-medium?!?

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I totally dig the optimism. Last week was a game where people always like to say "we'll find a way to lose or keep it close, we never blow anyone out", etc.

So to hand out a nice beat down for a change, I say there's nothing wrong with puffing out your chest a bit.

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[quote=Mattyk;1083769]After the Houston game we were heading for a top 5 pick. Now it's playoffs or bust. Too funny.[/quote]

41 points and 10 sacks will do that to a desperate fan base. Pass the Kool Aid please!

Skins 31
Beagles 24

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1083765]Whoa! Don't get carried away by the Jags game. We were 3-13 last season and we're playing our backup QB. I don't see any gimmees for the Redskins.[/quote]

Well of course, because this is the 2013 Skins :bdh:

And of course there's no way we would even be able to dominate the Jags :bdh:

There are certainly more games that the Skins talent level ought to let them win convincingly, but, as I said earlier, this game isn't about those games, or the Jags, or the 2013 Skins, it's about Gruden's team playing it's first true competitor, and seeing if he can get the penalties cleaned up, and keep them physically in shape and mentally focused enough to stay in the game 60 minutes.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1083792]Well of course, because this is the 2013 Skins :bdh:



And of course there's no way we would even be able to dominate the Jags :bdh:



There are certainly more games that the Skins talent level ought to let them win convincingly, but, as I said earlier, this game isn't about those games, or the Jags, or the 2013 Skins, it's about Gruden's team playing it's first true competitor, and seeing if he can get the penalties cleaned up, and keep them physically in shape and mentally focused enough to stay in the game 60 minutes.[/QUOTE]


Exactly. We are going to find out alot about who we are. And i hope its not who i thought we were.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1083770]I love the pesimmism on this board, skins are a better than most of you think.[/quote]

I agree. Even with Griff on the bench we are hungrier, play better defense, and have better depth than before. I think that this is going to be a fun (if at times heartbreaking) team to watch and we will at least contend for the playoffs.

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So not to change the subject in this thread, but the Redskins have worn what I call "Home Uniforms" the first two games with one on the road and last week at home. Are they wearing "Burgundy over Gold pants" this week @ Eagles? Or is it road Whites with Burgundy pants.

Anyone have the scoop on this stuff or the reasons behind the choices? I don't know why I am always interested in the uniform choices, but I am.

Hard for me to see the Redskins winning on the road this week, but I think we start to find out how good our Defense really is this week. PLEASSSE avoid the turnover and I think the Redskins can win this one.

Redskins 24 - Eagles 20

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yes i think this is our no. 1 ranked Defenses first real test.

number-one-ranked-defense.

i know its only been 2 games against the likes of fitzpatrick and henne and i am still certain that our secondary will end up being bottom 5 but heading into week 3, its a fact.

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Our defense last yr from what i remember looked lost against their hurry up,plus with Sproles they upgraded
I dont think our defense can hang and i see Sproles having another big game