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Redskins trade pick 112 to the Vikings for 120 and 154. Now thats what I am talking about.
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Marvelous move. Still some high quality guys on the board. Elton Brown to the Cards at 111, amazing.
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[QUOTE=Skinsfanatic]Redskins trade pick 112 to the Vikings for 120 and 154. Now thats what I am talking about.[/QUOTE]
Brace yourselves for two O-line picks, one of which could be that Center Jason Brown from UNC. |
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Brown would be nice since he could play guard as well.
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Antaj Hawthorne at DT? I like Salavea'a a lot, but another DT couldn't hurt, and Hawthorne should have been gone a while ago.
I'd really like that WR Mathis though. Me likey speed. |
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any good WRs still on the board?
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A fullback?
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Insider Profile: Manuel White Jr.
[b]Manuel White Jr[/b]
[url="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft05/tracker/position?id=10"]FB[/url] | (6'2[img]http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/nfl/trans/1_4.gif[/img]", 244, 4.65) | [url="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft05/tracker/school?id=2449"]UCLA[/url] [b] Strengths:[/b] Is an intriguing developmental FB prospect because of his unique blend of size, athleticism and speed. Has great experience as a ball carrier and receiver. Shows excellent initial burst and good speed for his size. Has some lateral movement quickness and does a decent job of planting and driving without losing much in transition. He has good vision and patience as a runner. Is a powerful runner with good body lean and lower body strength. Has soft hands for a bigger back out of the backfield and shows a good feel as a route runner in the short area. Has good size as a blocker. Is raw as a blocker but has some upside if he can improve his technique while getting bigger and tougher. [b]Weaknesses:[/b] Durability is a concern after missing four games with a leg injury in 2003 and suffering a knee injury during the 2005 Senior Bowl. He's a bit of a 'tweener who lacks the top-end speed and explosiveness of a fulltime NFL running back, but also lacks experience and strength as a blocker. His awareness and angles must improve as a blocker. He needs to also do a better job of sustaining and playing with leverage. Is big but must improve his lower body strength and overall power as a blocker. Also needs to become more physical and aggressive in that facet. [b]Overall:[/b] In 2003, White started the first eight games (five at RB and three at FB) before being sidelined by a fractured right scapula in the Arizona State game. At the time of his injury, he was the team's leading rusher. He finished with 379 net rushing yards and three touchdowns, while also averaging 10.1 yards on 10 receptions. White returned healthy as a senior in 2004, where he continued to play a 'tweener RB/FB role and split carries with RB Maurice Drew. White finished with 164 carries for 764 yards and eight touchdowns. He also chipped in with 20 receptions for 115 yards. White is a versatile fullback in the mold of Packers' FB Najeh Davenport just not nearly as athletic. White lacks ideal experience as a blocker but he has excellent size and some upside in that area if he can improve his technique and get much stronger. He also has good speed for his size and excellent experience carrying and catching the football. Essentially, White is a running back stuck in a fullback's body. Because White is such a unique athlete with the versatility to provide production as a runner, blocker, receiver and on special teams, he is worth taking a late chance on by a team that uses its fullback in a versatile role. However, he looked to be woefully week as a blocker at the Senior Bowl and he lacks the explosiveness as an athlete to bother wasting a pick on him any earlier. Furthermore, his knee injury in the Senior Bowl provides even more reason for concern. |
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wow-6'2", 245 - this guy is touted as a monster FB. Gibbs and co must've taken him for his blocking and for his potential as a goalline back.
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Except he can't block...
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H Back/TE. All the way. Bugel will teach him how to block and he already knows how to catch and run. Excellent pick!!!!!
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really? you've seen this guy play?
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Did you watch the senior bowl? not so fresh. and watching UCLA here in south Cal but who knows, maybe after four years in college of not having picked up the skill, he will in training camp. BTW, he was used mostly as a hb at UCLA...
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I think I was him once or twice, and like wagon said he usually played HB. Also from reading all of the Bio's on him that i colud google this is my opinion. Has good size now if only he can learn to block.
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Didn't they just sign Rock again did they... and what about Sellers..I guess we'll be deep at FB too.
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Re: Insider Profile: Manuel White Jr.
Still can't believe we didn't take a DE with the talent that is on the board. Good pick though, would have rather got Neighmiah Broughton from the Citadel though.
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Another pick that will take some creative (read: blindly optimistic) thinking to be at peace with.
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Re: Insider Profile: Manuel White Jr.
This is awesome, my middle name is Manuel..so this guy is my new favorite player!!
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Doesnt' Gibbs run a two tightend set? Is he going to switch to H-Back?
The logic of this pick escapes me. "an intriguing developmental FB prospect" we you have other needs??? |
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we still have gaping holes at TE and pass rushing DE, and no hight at WR...I also think we could still get some good people at MLB, perhaps Ahmad Brooks. In a way, this draft reminds me of last years. I was pretty pissed that we didn't take Winslow...but look how great a pick Taylor turned out to be. Still, here's my predictions at the next three rounds: 5th round-running back, 6th round-left tackle, 7th round-quarterback...they don't make sense so they must be whats going to happen
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i dont see us taking two oline. Two dline would make more sense. we draft two olinemen last year
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DE, LB, and WR.
Not sure what order, but I think these will be our next picks. |
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Rock is a special teams guy at this point.
I'm thinking we may see some two back sets next year, perhaps a lead FB for Portis? White isn't a great blocker right now, but he's got potential to improve on his technique and nice size. |
Profile: Robert McCune, ILB Louisville
I like this pick, Williams should be able to mold him
[b]Strengths:[/b] Has an exceptional combination of size, strength and straight-line speed. Is powerful at the POA and shows the ability to take on blocks in the phone booth if he plays with better technique. Has great range and closing burst versus the run. Is an explosive tackler that closes quickly and shows very good short area power. Fills hard versus the run. Has great speed when he gets a clear lane to the quarterback as a blitzer. Also has adequate range in zone coverage and the speed to run with most backs downfield. [b]Weaknesses:[/b] Is still not as fundamentally sound as he needs to be. He plays too high at times and needs to show better leverage and consistency when it comes to taking on blocks in the phone booth. He must also learn to use his hands better to shed. At times he will take too long to diagnose a play. He gets away with it at the C-USA level because of his speed but he needs to make quicker reads and react faster. Too many arm tackles. Needs to do a better job of breaking down and wrapping up. He has elite speed but his hips are a little bit stiff and he doesn't have great man-to-man cover skills. He has potential in zone coverage but he needs to take fewer false steps versus play-action. He does a good job of knocking passes down in his zone, but his ball skills are below average. [b]Overall:[/b] McCune redshirted in 2000 and saw action only as a backup from 2001-'02 before taking over as Louisville's fulltime starting middle linebacker as a junior in 2003, when he finished with 143 total tackles, five TFL and four sacks. He started all 12 games (ILB and OLB) as a senior in 2004 and led the team with 115 total tackles, including four for loss, two sacks and one interception. A member of the National Guard; spent six months in Kuwait and a full year in Korea. He will be a 26-year old rookie in the NFL. McCune was much improved as a senior and his upside is extremely intriguing because of his rare combination of size (6-0, 245), strength (33 reps of 225-pound bench press) and speed (4.50). However, McCune is a much more attractive prospect when watching him work out in shorts than he is when studying him in pads on film. He has great top-end speed for his size but he plays stiff and he has lots of limitations in terms of his range versus the run and in coverage, as a result. Furthermore, he still lacks ideal technique and recognition skills, which leads to inconsistent play. In our opinion, McCune is worth the gamble in the fourth-to-fifth round range of the upcoming draft but anywhere earlier than that would be a classic case of getting caught up in McCune as a "workout warrior", not a football player. |
Re: Profile: Robert McCune, ILB Louisville
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Top 10 1006172 Prospect Profile Published by DefenseWinsGMEN Robert McCune Position: MLB College: Louisville Projected Selection: Round2 MEASUREMENTS HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME 6'1" 240 4.42 ATTRIBUTE SCORE SIZE SPEED STRENGTH ATHLETICISM XFACTOR 8 8 8 8 9 out of 10 out of 10 out of 10 out of 10 out of 10 EXCHANGE VALUE 73.0 Pros: Very fast for MLB, uses that to make plays all over the field. Tough, has served overseas in the military. Cons: Still learning the position, lots of potential - will need time to fully develop. Draft Exchange Analysis: 2003— Junior Season: Team leader in tackles with 143 ... named third team All-Conference USA... started all 13 games at middle linebacker ... ranked seventh in Conference USA in that category ... registered eight double-digit tackle games ... second on the team with four sacks ... credited with 10 stops against Memphis and nine at Cincinnati ... notched 11 stops in 31-28 loss to TCU ... recorded a career-high 19 stops versus USF ... credited with 17 against Temple and 14 versus Tulane... notched 12 tackles in his first collegiate start at Kentucky. 2002— Sophomore Season: Saw action in all 13 games as a key reserve at linebacker and a standout on special teams ... played a prominent role over the last three games of the season while starter Rod Day was injured ... notched a then career-high nine tackles against UAB and followed that with a team season-high 18 tackles against Houston in his first collegiate start. 2001 — Red-shirt Freshman Season: Named Special Teams Player of the Year as a key member of the kick coverage units ... logged 14 tackles while playing in all 13 games on special teams and as a reserve linebacker. 2000 — Freshman Season: Didn’t see game action. LeFlore High School: Two-year letterwinner on the gridiron and four year letterwinner in track and field ... finished third at the state meet in the 100-meter dash and second in the 4x100-meter relay ... claimed back-to-back powerlifting titles at LeFlore as a junior and senior. Personal: Majoring in physical education ... born March 9, 1979 ... son of Sarah McCune ... three-year member of the National Guard who served a six-month stint in Kuwait and another year in Korea. |
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He is a real hammer.
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Sounds raw but has potential.
Sounds like a good character guy, served in the military. Definitely needs work. |
Re: Insider Profile: Manuel White Jr.
[QUOTE=TAFKAS]This is awesome, my middle name is Manuel..so this guy is my new favorite player!![/QUOTE]
HEEEEEEEEY MANUEL! :biggthump |
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[QUOTE=SonnySamFrank]Doesnt' Gibbs run a two tightend set? Is he going to switch to H-Back?
The logic of this pick escapes me. "an intriguing developmental FB prospect" we you have other needs???[/QUOTE] Switch to H-back? Chris Cooley ring a bell?? |
Re: Insider Profile: Manuel White Jr.
[QUOTE=TAFKAS]This is awesome, my middle name is Manuel..so this guy is my new favorite player!![/QUOTE]
So does this mean you will change your name to ManuelSmack............ |
Newberry
Newberry-POSITIVES Moves well latterally and has good instincts, keys and diagoneses quickly. Very good range to play ot the sideline, natural athlete and will fly to the ball. plays fast and has a passion for the game. TIme blitzes nicely. Can sift through traffic and makes a lot of plays in backsie pursuit. Great body contral and change of direction. best in coverage and shows good enough cover skills to make a switch to strong safety. reliable tackler. very smart. NEGATIVES production dropped as a senior, undersized, stuggles taking on blocks, marginal strength. Gives ground to run around blocks at times and takes himself out of plays. limited power and explosiveness on contract. Gets knocked around at point of attack. Does not use his hands well to shed. ....................
Overall not bad.......Williams can mold him and needs time in weight room to add strength________________ |
Re: Newberry
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Top 10 1005502 Prospect Profile Published by DefenseWinsGMEN Jared Newberry Position: OLB College: Stanford Projected Selection: Round7 MEASUREMENTS HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME 6'2" 235 n/a ATTRIBUTE SCORE SIZE SPEED STRENGTH ATHLETICISM XFACTOR 9 9 9 10 9 out of 10 out of 10 out of 10 out of 10 out of 10 EXCHANGE VALUE 30.5 Pros: Cons: Draft Exchange Analysis: At Stanford: Great work-ethic and a team leader, Jared begins his fifth season in the Cardinal football program as one of the most respected players on the team ... He is one of two team captains in 2004 along with Oshiomogho Atogwe ... Jared came to Stanford in 2000 as a walk-one and played several positions before finding a home at outside linebacker during the 2002 season ... He has started 14 games the past two years, including all 11 in 2003, and is a three-year letter-winner ... He led the team in tackles for loss and was second in tackles a year ago ... Throughout his Cardinal career, he has played inside linebacker, fullback and outside linebacker along with special teams ... Played inside linebacker in 2000 and was the team's No. 2 fullback in 2001 before being moved to OLB for the '02 season. The 2004 Season: Game-By-Game Statistics The 2003 Season: One of the team's top defensive players, Jared finished his first year as a full-time starter with 67 tackles, second best on the team, and a team-leading 10 tackles for loss ... He also added three quarterback sacks, one interception, seven pass break ups, three forced fumbles and one fumble recovery ... He earned Honorable Mention All-Pac-10 recognition and was named winner of the Russell-Huston Award for the player "exemplifying aggressiveness, exceptional performance and unheralded efforts" ... One of the best games of his career came against Washington State when he tallied 10 total tackles and four tackles for loss ... He had eight tackles and two tackles for loss against Oregon ... In Stanford's 18-14 win at BYU, Jared recorded a sack on a fourth and goal play by the Cougars with less than a minute left on the clock, preserving the Cardinal's second win of the year. The 2002 Season: Started three games at outside linebacker and finished fourth on the team with 45 total tackles ...Tied for second on the club with three quarterback sacks ... Also accounted for 4.5 tackles for loss, four pass break ups, one interception and one fumble recovery ... Started the season opener at Boston College and the final two games of the year vs. Oregon State and California ... In the Big Game, he led the team with eight tackles and was named winner of the Frank Rehm Award as the team's Most Outstanding Back in the Big Game ... He came on strong towards the end of the season as he collected 24 tackles, one sack and 2.5 tackles for loss over the final three games of the year ... He had a season high nine total stops against USC ... In Stanford's win over Arizona, Jared came off the bench to record three tackles and one interception while also being credited with 0.5 sacks and 0.5 tackles for loss ... Had seven tackles, 1.5 tackles for loss and a pass break up against Oregon State. The 2001 Season: Moved to fullback prior to the season ... Stanford's No. 2 fullback and special teams player ... Earned his first varsity letter ... Carried the ball twice in 2001, both coming in game two vs. Arizona State ... He scored on a 19-yard run up the middle and had another run for 10 yards. The 2000 Season: Redshirted the 2000 season as a true freshman ... Played inside linebacker. In High School: Four-year starter at DeLaSalle High School in Minneapolis ... Named to the Midwest Elite Team by Gridiron Greats Magazine following his junior and senior seasons ... Second-Team All-State and All-Metro as a senior ... Three-time all-conference selection ... Started on both offense and defense and was named team captain while leading his team to the state championship as a senior ... As a linebacker, he recorded over 100 tackles, five sacks, three fumble recoveries and two interceptions ... Played every position on offense, except quarterback, as a senior ... As a fullback, gained 563 yards on 85 carries and scored 10 touchdowns ... Played basketball as well, leading his team to the state championship as a junior and a third place finish as a senior... Member of the school choir ... Received the National Merit Scholarship and Urban League Scholarship. Personal Information: Born November 11, 1981 ... Sociology major ... His grandfather, Richard, and two great uncles (Jimmy Lee and Henry), played professional baseball in the Negro Leagues. |
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[QUOTE=offiss]... Member of the school choir ... .[/QUOTE]
Oh oh.....someone will complain that Gibbs only selets choir boys..... :laughing- |
Re: Insider Profile: Manuel White Jr.
[QUOTE=monk81]So does this mean you will change your name to ManuelSmack............[/QUOTE]
LOL! No...but finally I can speak of another Manuel in the league other than former Giants Wide Receiver Lionel Manuel |
Re: Insider Profile: Manuel White Jr.
[QUOTE=PSUskinsfan11]Still can't believe we didn't take a DE with the talent that is on the board. Good pick though, would have rather got Neighmiah Broughton from the Citadel though.[/QUOTE]
Guess you got your wish in the 7th round |
Round 7: Nehemiah Broughton, Jr., FB Citadel
Another Fullback???
[url]http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2005/broughton_nehemiah[/url] [url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2005/draft/players/79499.html[/url] |
Re: Round 7: Nehemiah Broughton, Jr., FB Citadel
yeah kinda confused here, since we got our bruiser in round 4...will have to hear gibbs explanation. will probably say he was the highest on their board or something
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Antoher Fb???/broughton/citadel
Well we drafted yet another FB.......Broughton/Citadel......
POSITIVES: Built like a truck with stocky legs and a thick frame. Workhorse back with good power and strength to pound it inside. Strong runner. At his best between tackles. Runs with good pad level and nice balance. Has natural hands. Solid blocker. Self starter with good work ethic. NEGATIVES-Has not faced tough competition. Not very elusive and lacks lateral quickness. Does not have the speed to bounce it outside or go the distance. Only knows one speed. Musclebound and stiff with limited flexibility that affects his route running. Summary-Built like a typical Steeeler bulldozing back, but looked lie just a guy at the Senior Bowl and will be a fullback for most teams........ Don't you love those colorful descriptions :laughing- P.S. Did anyone else notice that silly shirt Andy Reid had on........hahahaha |
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well, we got 2 FB, an ILB and a FB/OLB with our day 2 picks... hope one of them can block...
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Re: Round 7: Nehemiah Broughton, Jr., FB Citadel
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Top 10 1005894 Prospect Profile Published by DefenseWinsGMEN Nehemiah Broughton Position: RB College: Citadel Projected Selection: Round7 MEASUREMENTS HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME 5'11" 250 4.55 ATTRIBUTE SCORE SIZE SPEED STRENGTH ATHLETICISM XFACTOR 7 7 7 6 6 out of 10 out of 10 out of 10 out of 10 out of 10 EXCHANGE VALUE 22.5 Pros: Cons: Draft Exchange Analysis: No details at this time. |
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