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Wade Phillips to Interview with the Redskins
[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000453299/article/wade-phillips-to-interview-for-redskins-dc-job]Wade Phillips to interview for Redskins DC job - NFL.com[/url]
The Washington Redskins have lined up one interview for their newly opened defensive coordinator position. NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Saturday that the team will interview Wade Phillips this week, according to a source. The hire would be an intriguing one for Jay Gruden's team that already has 3-4 personnel in place. Phillips was last defensive coordinator in Houston in 2013 and took over as interim head coach when Gary Kubiak was fired during the season. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wade_Phillips]Wade Phillips - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url] Wade Phillips has never made to a championship game ,NFC or AFC |
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Good. Hopefully if hired Wade Phillips can bring in his own assistants to start off fresh...all of those coaches who worked under Mike Shanahan should be replaced including Raheem Morris.
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I would say it's a done deal, would be very surprised if they hired a different DC. Allen is afraid of thinking out of the box and is predictable.
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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1103048]I would say it's a done deal, would be very surprised if they hired a different DC. Allen is afraid of thinking out of the box and is predictable.[/quote]
This comment is pretty ignorant. AJ Smith is the one with familiarity with Phillips, not Allen. And please explain why Wade would be a bad hire? When you have the track record he does as a defensive coordinator it becomes easy to see why he keeps getting hired. Not everything has to be overly complicated or "outside the box" to be the right decision. Some things really are obvious, and that's because his resume is that clearly head and shoulders above the others. |
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Fangio would be good too I suppose, but with him you have to remember how much talent he was working with in SF.
Wade took bad defenses and immediately made them good in his first year. He did that recently in both Dallas and Houston. |
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An interview with WP from this past June.
[url=http://www.wadephillips.net/newsht/news_060914_wade_phillips_a_big_redskins_fan_now.htm]Wade Phillips: "A Big Redskins Fan Now"[/url] From his biography on the same website: [quote]"The old stereotype is that you've got to get in a guy's face to get the most out of him," Wade says. "I've always believed that good guys, or nice guys, can finish first." "He's the most likable coach in the NFL," said Charlie Waters, who remained on the Broncos' staff when Wade succeeded Dan Reeves in 1993. "People love to work and play for Wade. He has high expectations, but he cuts through the mess. There's a lot of common sense working there with Wade." By Wade's definition, football teams are much like families. The Phillips coaching family is his blueprint. "You like for them to care about each other like you do in a family," he says, "and take up for each other. What family means is trust, loyalty and common purpose." Wade is a patient communicator. "When I was growing up, [B]people thought bitching was coaching," says Wade. "But players eventually turn off the guys who yell and scream. My father once told me, 'Don't coach the way you were coached. Coach the way you are.' I don't believe in coaching by fear. I believe in coaching by teaching."[/B][/quote] Back in the day, I played for screaming coaches and teaching coaches. Regardless of the sport, I always played my best for teaching coaches. |
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There's 2 other threads already discussing the DC position as well as Wade Phillips specifically. Was a 3rd thread really necessary?
Anyway we can contain all the DC talk to the new DC for 2015 thread??? |
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Oh goody, a Son of Bum thread started by a Giants bum who likes to dick ride a Redskins forum.
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[quote=Schneed10;1103053]This comment is pretty ignorant. AJ Smith is the one with familiarity with Phillips, not Allen. And please explain why Wade would be a bad hire? When you have the track record he does as a defensive coordinator it becomes easy to see why he keeps getting hired. Not everything has to be overly complicated or "outside the box" to be the right decision. Some things really are obvious, and that's because his resume is that clearly head and shoulders above the others.[/quote]
I like WP, I think he's a great coach, what I don't is that he is too nice and with the culture/locker room that we have, it won't work. we need a disciplinarian. I saw JoeRedskin article and that's fine, i just think that we need to change the locker room mentality not with a nice grandpa. |
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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1103081]I like WP, I think he's a great coach, what I don't is that he is too nice and with the culture/locker room that we have, it won't work. we need a disciplinarian. I saw JoeRedskin article and that's fine, i just think that we need to change the locker room mentality not with a nice grandpa.[/quote]
I don't think the style matters nearly as much as track record and the introduction of new concepts that will fit our personnel better. Haslett didn't have great talent to work with, but he also had only one real trick up his sleeve: blitz blitz blitz. Wade has come into new teams in recent years and made significant improvements in his first year, a sign that he knows how to assess the capabilities on the roster and deploy them in a way that maximizes their talent. We need his strong thinking and teaching to improve this team. |
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Phillips makes complete sense on many levels. He's a guy that players buy into quickly, he's a proven defensive mind with extensive HC experience that can no doubt help Gruden. No brainer of a move.
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Any coach old or young is better than the shit show we had last year. We haven't picked a new coach or signed any new players and our defense is already better than last years.
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[quote=Schneed10;1103053]This comment is pretty ignorant. AJ Smith is the one with familiarity with Phillips, not Allen. And please explain why Wade would be a bad hire? When you have the track record he does as a defensive coordinator it becomes easy to see why he keeps getting hired. Not everything has to be overly complicated or "outside the box" to be the right decision. Some things really are obvious, and that's because his resume is that clearly head and shoulders above the others.[/quote]
Phillips is a retread. Not saying it would be a bad hire, but it would be nice to see them bring in a young up and comer. |
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[quote=skinsfan69;1103114]Phillips is a retread. Not saying it would be a bad hire, but it would be nice to see them bring in a young up and comer.[/quote]
3 of the 4 head coaches in the conference championships last year where retreads. I think the young up and comer can be overrated if you don't have the talent or the FO and coaching staff to assist them. |
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We have a (supposedly) young, up-and-coming HC. No problem then with having an experienced coordinator.
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I'll give you an example. Why not talk to Ken Norton? Former player and a damn good one. He's been coaching for a while, he can probably relate and motivate the players better than Phillips. He comes from a winning environment. He comes from a place where competition is a priority and they put a very strong emphasis on tackling and fundamentals. Why not think outside the box? This organization needs to go away from the good ole boy network in the worst way possible. I think bringing someone in like him is exactly what this team needs.
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[quote=skinsfan69;1103134]I'll give you an example. Why not talk to Ken Norton? Former player and a damn good one. He's been coaching for a while, he can probably relate and motivate the players better than Phillips. He comes from a winning environment. He comes from a place where competition is a priority and they put a very strong emphasis on tackling and fundamentals. Why not think outside the box? This organization needs to go away from the good ole boy network in the worst way possible. I think bringing someone in like him is exactly what this team needs.[/quote]
And may I add leadership and accountabilty in the locker room. When you are a nice guy people take advantage. Give me Norton if he is willing to become our DC anyday. |
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[quote=JoeRedskin;1103059]An interview with WP from this past June.
[url=http://www.wadephillips.net/newsht/news_060914_wade_phillips_a_big_redskins_fan_now.htm]Wade Phillips: "A Big Redskins Fan Now"[/url] From his biography on the same website: Back in the day, I played for screaming coaches and teaching coaches. Regardless of the sport, I always played my best for teaching coaches.[/quote] Good stuff! Wade much like his father is a straighf shooter who gets results, and often from little talent. You can believe what his tells you is the truth as he knows it.....like his father. This wil be a great move if we can pull it off both for the D and for Jay because I his HC background as has been pointed out |
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[quote=skinsfan69;1103114]Phillips is a retread. Not saying it would be a bad hire, but it would be nice to see them bring in a young up and comer.[/quote]
Why?? Just for its own sake? This kind of "thinking" makes no sense to me. |
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[quote=skinsfan69;1103134]I'll give you an example. Why not talk to Ken Norton? Former player and a damn good one. He's been coaching for a while, he can probably relate and motivate the players better than Phillips. He comes from a winning environment. He comes from a place where competition is a priority and they put a very strong emphasis on tackling and fundamentals. Why not think outside the box? This organization needs to go away from the good ole boy network in the worst way possible. I think bringing someone in like him is exactly what this team needs.[/quote]
This is completely speculative, you have no idea if Norton can motivate better than Phillips, you're now just saying things with no factual basis. Don't overthink it, Wade's resume is what it is for a reason. |
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This is sounding like when Shanahan was hired. And how did that turn out? But he's been to 2 SB's, blah, blah, blah.
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[quote=Hog1;1103139]Good stuff!
[B]Wade much like his father[/B] is a straighf shooter who gets results, and often from little talent. You can believe what his tells you is the truth as he knows it.....like his father. This wil be a great move if we can pull it off both for the D and for Jay because I his HC background as has been pointed out[/quote] Hopefully he'll be like his daddy and bring along a young Earl Campbell. |
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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1103185]This is sounding like when Shanahan was hired. And how did that turn out? But he's been to 2 SB's, blah, blah, blah.[/quote]
Naw, not close |
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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1103185]This is sounding like when Shanahan was hired. And how did that turn out? But he's been to 2 SB's, blah, blah, blah.[/quote]
It's not exactly the same as Shanahan. But the element of "Bruce and his homies" remains the same. Fire Bruce now. |
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Phillips would be an AJ Smith move, not Allen.
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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1103137]And may I add leadership and accountabilty in the locker room. [B]When you are a nice guy people take advantage[/B]. Give me Norton if he is willing to become our DC anyday.[/quote]
"Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs." But, as the kids say, I'm sleep tho |
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Who's to say there isn't an up and comer on the D staff now? Olividotti and Baker have gotten good reviews both inside the franchise and from local media.
What's wrong with WP coming in, giving these guys a little more time to learn the craft and then move one of them up? Not saying it's going to happen or "the plan," but maybe we could hold on to our own "up-and-comers" rather than rushing out to get the next big thing? |
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[quote=SmootSmack;1103194]"Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs."
But, as the kids say, I'm sleep tho[/quote] Gibbs might have been nice but laid down the law by cutting or putting players in the doghouse when they screwed up. |
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[quote=JoeRedskin;1103197]Who's to say there isn't an up and comer on the D staff now? Olividotti and Baker have gotten good reviews both inside the franchise and from local media.
What's wrong with WP coming in, giving these guys a little more time to learn the craft and then move one of them up? Not saying it's going to happen or "the plan," but maybe we could hold on to our own "up-and-comers" rather than rushing out to get the next big thing?[/quote] I mentioned those 2 and both should be given a chance to interview, why not give one a chance instead of losing them to another team. |
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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1103199]Gibbs might have been nice but laid down the law by cutting or putting players in the doghouse when they screwed up.[/quote]
So are you saying that nice guys can succeed or that Wade Phillips will mandate that all of his players skip every practice and become alcoholics? |
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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1103185]This is sounding like when Shanahan was hired. And how did that turn out? But he's been to 2 SB's, blah, blah, blah.[/quote]
No. The counter to the "he's won 2 SB's" and the critique of Shanny was "What has he done lately?" and "He didn't win without Elway." The counter to WP's track record of success, however, is not tied to any particular lack of success. Rather, the critique of WP is simply "I want an up-and-comer not some old guy" and "He's too nice we need someone who yells at players." Further, unlike Shanny, WP has succeeded as a DC at every stop, has succeeded with average talent, and his success is not tied to any single player. But, he's not coaching or playing on the west coast so he really can't be any good. |
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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1103199]Gibbs might have been nice but laid down the law by cutting or putting players in the doghouse when they screwed up.[/quote]
What the F are we talking about?? Wade won't be cutting anybody, he's being considered for DC, not head coach. And then people are talking about this being same old Allen nepotism... ITS AJ SMITH MAKING THIS CALL! Am I on another planet or something? |
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[quote=Schneed10;1103204]What the F are we talking about??
Wade won't be cutting anybody, he's being considered for DC, not head coach. And then people are talking about this being same old Allen nepotism... ITS AJ SMITH MAKING THIS CALL! Am I on another [B]planet[/B] or something?[/quote] Nope, just the official welcome to the offseason. Shit about to get cray cray Skip on over to the trade amerson thread next |
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[quote=Schneed10;1103204]What the F are we talking about??
Wade won't be cutting anybody, he's being considered for DC, not head coach. And then people are talking about this being same old Allen nepotism... ITS AJ SMITH MAKING THIS CALL! Am I on another planet or something?[/quote] My point was not that Wade would be Allen nepotism. Wade is AJ's call (thank goodness). But we still have some NFL good ole boy networking going on. Wade is a long-term homie of AJ, AJ is a long-term homie of Allen. I like the Wade hiring. But the process smacks of the same that lands us in last place every year. Given the way that this team has been run lately, I think everyone should be a little suspicious, bothered, or concerned when jobs (like DC) are handed to someone through networks rather than an expansive competitive search. At any rate, I personally cannot blame anyone who calls for business to be done a different way. |
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[quote=JoeRedskin;1103203]No. The counter to the "he's won 2 SB's" and the critique of Shanny was "What has he done lately?" and "He didn't win without Elway."
The counter to WP's track record of success, however, is not tied to any particular lack of success. Rather, the critique of WP is simply "I want an up-and-comer not some old guy" and "He's too nice we need someone who yells at players." Further, unlike Shanny, [B]WP has succeeded as a DC at every stop, has succeeded with average talent, and his success is not tied to any single player.[/B] But, he's not coaching or playing on the west coast so he really can't be any good.[/quote] Well said. Wade is a good choice and is not the problem. |
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[quote=Schneed10;1103175]This is completely speculative, you have no idea if Norton can motivate better than Phillips, you're now just saying things with no factual basis.
Don't overthink it, Wade's resume is what it is for a reason.[/quote] Of course it's speculative. I'm saying that he's a former player that comes from a winning organization that has a great defense. They're fundamentally sound and tackle well. All reasons to give him an interview. He'll have the players respect the minute he walks in the door. Probably won't happen as they're only looking at 3-4 guys. |
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[QUOTE=Lotus;1103213]My point was not that Wade would be Allen nepotism. Wade is AJ's call (thank goodness). But we still have some NFL good ole boy networking going on. Wade is a long-term homie of AJ, AJ is a long-term homie of Allen.
I like the Wade hiring. But the process smacks of the same that lands us in last place every year. Given the way that this team has been run lately, I think everyone should be a little suspicious, bothered, or concerned when jobs (like DC) are handed to someone through networks rather than an expansive competitive search. At any rate, I personally cannot blame anyone who calls for business to be done a different way.[/QUOTE] Most teams work that way. Dallas hired Monte Muffin because of his connections with Jerruh. He then brought in Marinelli, who in turn replaced Kiffin and led a turnaround on dallas' D. Not that Dallas is the ideal comparison, but it really does go on in most if not all hiring situations. The problem in the past is not the homie factor, but just bad decision factor. WP if hired would be a good decision factor. |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1103219]Most teams work that way. Dallas hired Monte Muffin because of his connections with Jerruh. He then brought in Marinelli, who in turn replaced Kiffin and led a turnaround on dallas' D. Not that Dallas is the ideal comparison, but it really does go on in most if not all hiring situations. [B]The problem in the past is not the homie factor, but just bad decision factor.[/B] WP if hired would be a good decision factor.[/quote]
I understand that many teams network to find coaches, etc. If you actually know what you are doing, it can be a good way to do NFL business. Do any of those teams finish 4-12 every year, year after year? If so, I recommend they do things differently. Hiring "Allen's homie's homie," instead of just "Allen's homie," is not really doing things differently. PS "homie factor" and "bad decision factor" are not mutually exclusive. |
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WP is super well qualified but we can't hire him cause he's not under 30? he wasn't a great HC, so we can't use him as a consistent top 10 DC? AJ smith knows him, so that makes it a bad idea?
man, there's some weird/weak sh*t going on in here. in a vacuum, who are the best DC's you could hire for 2015? probably WP and rex (who doesn't want to be a DC). so... if they're available, hire them. it's pretty simple. if grilliams was available, i'd take him too. he never did us wrong. |
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[quote=That Guy;1103227]WP is super well qualified but we can't hire him cause he's not under 30? he wasn't a great HC, so we can't use him as a consistent top 10 DC? [B] AJ smith knows him, so that makes it a bad idea?[/B]
man, there's some weird/weak sh*t going on in here. in a vacuum, who are the best DC's you could hire for 2015? probably WP and rex (who doesn't want to be a DC). so... if they're available, hire them. it's pretty simple. if grilliams was available, i'd take him too. he never did us wrong.[/quote] Again, my point is subtler than, "AJ smith knows him, so that makes it a bad idea." Wade is a good DC. Why not have a more open process where we give folks with good records that we don't know personally so well a fair shake? If Wade really is the best guy for the job, the end result is the same. |
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