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Chico23231 04-27-2015 09:28 PM

Baltimore riots
 
Well that escalated quickly. Baltimore mayor looked completely incompetent during her press conference. It's a real shame to see the looters destroy that city.

CRedskinsRule 04-27-2015 09:31 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
I thought Saturday was done professionally. Was actually proud of the police. Not a norm for me. Today the city went the other way :(

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Chico23231 04-27-2015 09:36 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
Governor threw the mayor under the bus, "he had his team had been waiting for her call and when she finally made it"..... Wow, this had been going on since like 3? And she finally acted round 7? The pictures of folks pulling up to that mall and parking near the sidewalk running in and looting were just crazy...

JoeRedskin 04-27-2015 10:07 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[IMG]http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Screen-Shot-2015-04-27-at-6.29.16-PM.png[/IMG]

Apparently, earlier today social media was trending with this meme indicating high school students should meet after school at 3:00. Additionally, police indicated that they had "credible reports" indicating Black Guerilla Family, Crips and Bloods were getting together to launch coordinated attack on the police.

The officers predeployed to the mall in riot gear and stopped bus transport to or from the hub. At that point, confrontation occurred in which 7 police were injured (no civilians).

Looting started shortly after and moved towards the center of the city. After that, it just seemed to spread across the west side. It just escalated really quickly and police have been one step behind all day.

Mayor basically said - "let the protestor's protest even if there is a little property damage." Later said her words misinterpreted and that "thugs" (her words not mine) took advantage of the leeway being given to create chaos.

Chico23231 04-27-2015 10:12 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
Do the looters understand they are destroying their own community by looting businesses and burning down housing? Idiots

How many liquor stores has otm raided?

JoeRedskin 04-27-2015 10:17 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
For years, Baltimore leadership has been striving to get businesses into "food deserts" in the city (areas where poverty high and only expensive convenience stores instead of large markets). First thing people did was loot a CVS that was the only large pharmacy/market in the area. Dumb.

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DynamiteRave 04-27-2015 11:12 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
I've always been vocal about my hate of Baltimore. And while it's not my favorite place in the world, it has become as second home to me, due to how much time I spend there because of where I work.

Mondawmin mall, the mall where this all started, is 5 minutes away from my job. I pass it everyday. We take our clients there (some non-verbal) to walk around and integrate in the community. Scenes of the roads and neighborhoods are the same ones I drive to work on.

I've never felt such sorrow (I know it's kinda a dramatic word, but the only one I felt was fitting) for what's going on there. They burned down a building under construction that was going to be a senior living facility. FOR OLD PEOPLE. Come on man, those old folks didn't do shit to deserve that. The mayor is absolutely f'ing useless and I'm with other Baltimoreans who say she is the worst thing that could've happened to Baltimore.

This is f'ing killing me and my heart hurts for Baltimore right now. They shut down city schools tomorrow and they also shut down my work as we're only 10 minutes or less from the hub of where this is all taking place.

They had a chance to make this something bigger than Ferguson. They did. But not in the way that I had hoped.

NC_Skins 04-27-2015 11:21 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
If the city would hold cops accountable, none of this would be going on. The mayor will most definitely be losing her job come next election.

DynamiteRave 04-27-2015 11:24 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1111737]If the city would hold cops accountable, none of this would be going on. The mayor will most definitely be losing her job come next election.[/quote]

She is a grade A imbecile. The police chief is also an idiot. I hope they both get tossed.

JoeRedskin 04-28-2015 12:03 AM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
Neither will. Folks complain of being disenfranchised but then vote the same folks in and expect change.

Rawlings is mayor until she gets elected to congress.

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DynamiteRave 04-28-2015 12:04 AM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1111740]Neither will. Folks complain of being disenfranchised but then vote the same folks in and expect change.

[B]Rawlings is mayor until she gets elected to congress[/B].

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:puke:

NC_Skins 04-28-2015 10:14 AM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
Fox news shouldn't even be allowed to call themselves a news agency. I put them up there with National Enquirer.


[url]https://www.facebook.com/ricky.kelly.948/videos/1083402581675493/?pnref=story[/url]

over the mountain 04-28-2015 10:28 AM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1111733]For years, Baltimore leadership has been striving to get businesses into "food deserts" in the city (areas where poverty high and only expensive convenience stores instead of large markets). First thing people did was loot a CVS that was the only large pharmacy/market in the area. Dumb.

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this is very true. I dont know if this is like other cities but there are good size areas of baltimore where the only food source is a liquor or ez mart. i have a client that lives there and she has to take multiple buses to get to the grocery store.

i dont consider the druid hill area all that bad. i was just up there last week taking my family to the zoo. there are some beautiful old historic homes there. the lake is there. the zoo is there. you can head 15 blocks south and you are in downtown. 83 is blocks away. we talked about how that area in 15 years will be expensive and how we could buy a big big house there now.

the area has sooo much potential to be an amazing neighborhood.

im just happy things stayed relatively localized to that area. there were unsubstantiated reports of groups in patterson park or looting in fells but i dont think they were ever confirmed. i know "bartenders' on boston street got robbed. i used to know those guys well, i heard one got hit in the head with an object.

im just worried that opportunistic criminals may do random crimes throughout the city.

it was un-nerving having to check the BCPD twitter and local CBS to see if things were spreading.

Joe - what part are you in? i think im good. we are at broadway and lombard/pratt. the 7-11 on the corner is definitely going to get it at some point. its like a mini riot there on an normal day.

mooby 04-28-2015 11:42 AM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
It's a shame that the people who are trying to impact change in a positive way, i.e. peaceful protesting, are being lumped in with the opportunists who see a man's death as an opportunity to grab a bunch of goods and destroy property for fun. The rioters and looters will always cancel out the statement the citizens are trying to make.

And in a few weeks/months or so when it dies down (or the next prejudiced killing occurs), everybody will be asking why their message never got across, and the cycle will repeat. I'm not going to sit here and pretend I know what it's like to be profiled, or that the system is set up to fail my people. But it's a damn shame that it looks like we haven't learned anything from the civil rights demonstrations of the 60's. History just feels doomed to repeat itself in these situations.

Edit: Hope those of you close to the action stay safe, even though I don't think any progress will be made because of these riots I still hope nobody comes out of this any worse for the wear.

Chico23231 04-28-2015 11:48 AM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[quote=mooby;1111759]It's a shame that the people who are trying to impact change in a positive way, i.e. peaceful protesting, are being lumped in with the opportunists who see a man's death as an opportunity to grab a bunch of goods and destroy property for fun. The rioters and looters will always cancel out the statement the citizens are trying to make.

And in a few weeks/months or so when it dies down (or the next prejudiced killing occurs), everybody will be asking why their message never got across, and the cycle will repeat. I'm not going to sit here and pretend I know what it's like to be profiled, or that the system is set up to fail my people. But it's a damn shame that it looks like we haven't learned anything from the civil rights demonstrations of the 60's. History just feels doomed to repeat itself in these situations.

Edit: Hope those of you close to the action stay safe, even though I don't think any progress will be made because of these riots I still hope nobody comes out of this any worse for the wear.[/quote]


Most of these opportunistics aka criminals look like teenagers. I think that says alot. They could give a shit about Freddie Gray.

JoeRedskin 04-28-2015 01:09 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[quote=Chico23231;1111760]Most of these opportunistics aka criminals look like teenagers. I think that says alot. They could give a shit about Freddie Gray.[/quote]

Don't get me started.

OTM - While far from a city wide riot, the violence was not particularly localized. It started in west Baltimore and moved done a corridor to downtown.

I'm in central Baltimore - about 3 miles from central Baltimore and 2 miles from where the problem started.

DynamiteRave 04-28-2015 01:11 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[quote=Chico23231;1111760]Most of these opportunistics aka criminals look like teenagers. I think that says alot. They could give a shit about Freddie Gray.[/quote]

I'm wondering if they're going to try to run amok again today or if they're going to be put off by the Guard being there.

I'm also wondering if I'm going to be out of an entire week of pay due to these kids blowing off steam since I work dead center in West Baltimore.

:Smoker:

JoeRedskin 04-28-2015 01:16 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[url]https://www.baltimorebrew.com/2015/04/27/scores-of-youths-hurling-bricks-and-rocks-at-police-on-auchentoroly-terrace/[/url]

[url]https://www.baltimorebrew.com/2015/04/27/inside-city-hall-while-her-staff-parses-a-remark-the-mayor-stays-mum-on-a-sad-and-violent-day/[/url]

[url]https://www.baltimorebrew.com/2015/04/28/city-says-144-vehicles-15-structures-torched-in-riots/[/url]

over the mountain 04-28-2015 01:17 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
dang, my lady just said that some stores a few blocks from us are boarding themselves up bc they were in fact looted last night. Caroline liquor being one of them. I like caroline liquor, one of the few places that sell on sunday, open at 6 am until 2 am. they sell good craft beer to - big selection of laguinitas, etc. nice husband and wife own it and work the cash register. hope they got out before the looters got in.

i dont know why this hasnt been reported. i cant find anything on line about it. i would think looting in fells point would be big news.

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDpSv91XIAEXPmY.jpg:large[/IMG]

^^ i did find some confirmation. this doesnt look like caroline but one of the many other hispanic liqour stores.

DynamiteRave 04-28-2015 01:23 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[quote=over the mountain;1111769]dang, my lady just said that some stores a few blocks from us are boarding themselves up bc they were in fact looted last night. Caroline liquor being one of them. I like caroline liquor, one of the few places that sell on sunday, open at 6 am until 2 am. they sell good craft beer to - big selection of laguinitas, etc. nice husband and wife own it and work the cash register. hope they got out before the looters got in.

i dont know why this hasnt been reported. i cant find anything on line about it. i would think looting in fells point would be big news.[/quote]

I heard about looting in Fells Point but no one substantiated it.

over the mountain 04-28-2015 01:26 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
dang things did get pretty close. i know JHU put out an alert and that is a few blocks north.

Chico23231 04-28-2015 01:27 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
Why did the Mayor give the kids a snow day? To go out and f*ck sh*t up again?

Chico23231 04-28-2015 01:54 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[url=http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/28/us/baltimore-riot-mom-smacks-son/index.html]Video shows Baltimore mom smack masked son over riots - CNN.com[/url]

First, she deserves an award...and second she needs to be put in charge of something. Gives me hope

over the mountain 04-28-2015 02:12 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[quote=Chico23231;1111772]Why did the Mayor give the kids a snow day? To go out and f*ck sh*t up again?[/quote]

i would guess so they couldnt not all meet and organize at school to secure plans and then so they would not all be bused to a major bus depot like what happened at Mondawin mall yesterday.

just got a crying phone call from my lady. she just came back from lunch with our daughter and said a lot of stores are looted. the metro PCS were she pays her phone bill was "gutted". these stores are a few blocks away.

everyone in fells is preparing for another purge at 3 pm today.


what happens if an officer is shot and killed? what happens if a rioter is killed? a police officer was shot at yesterday by a rioter.

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the 7-11 across the street from me was looted. i didnt hear any commotion or broken glass. there were cop sirens racing around in packs and police helicopters.

[url=http://jewishtimes.com/36468/peaceful-protests-turn-to-rioting-and-widespread-looting/]Peaceful protests turn to rioting and widespread looting | Baltimore Jewish Times[/url]

DynamiteRave 04-28-2015 03:01 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[quote=over the mountain;1111777]i would guess so they couldnt not all meet and organize at school to secure plans and then so they would not all be bused to a major bus depot like what happened at Mondawin mall yesterday.

just got a crying phone call from my lady. she just came back from lunch with our daughter and said a lot of stores are looted. the metro PCS were she pays her phone bill was "gutted". these stores are a few blocks away.

everyone in fells is preparing for another purge at 3 pm today.


what happens if an officer is shot and killed? what happens if a rioter is killed? a police officer was shot at yesterday by a rioter.[/quote]

Well it's 3pm, we'll see what's up. I heard they were going to hit up Owings Mills Mall which would show how stupid these kids actually are because that mall is already practically abandoned.

JoeRedskin 04-28-2015 03:19 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
My belief is that this was a one night thing.

Friday, when they release the preliminary report on the Freddie Gray, will be another flashpoint. Hopefully, they won't pull a Ferguson and announce it in the evening.

over the mountain 04-28-2015 03:34 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1111779]My belief is that this was a one night thing.

Friday, when they release the preliminary report on the Freddie Gray, will be another flashpoint. Hopefully, they won't pull a Ferguson and announce it in the evening.[/quote]

i also believe it was a one night thing until the announce charges.

but i do think there will be smash n grab groups out there. hopefully the police arrest anyone on the streets. its just too easy for ppl form perkins holmes to run out, loot real quick, then run back.

strange to think i cant walk outside my building tonight if i need to get milk or something across the street.
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i dont know how to say this without sounding critical but balt city's new DA was working for an insurance company doing defense of car accident cases before she put her name on the ballot. no one else ran. she was just elected. she worked for a few years as an ADA prior to doing car accidents. i had a case against her. she is young. she is pleasant and generally seems like a nice person but i dont think she had to earn much in life. i will stop here.

JoeRedskin 04-28-2015 03:41 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
Yeah. My neighbors are getting married this weekend. Having to move it around so people can get home before the curfew.

over the mountain 04-28-2015 05:00 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[IMG]http://images.scribblelive.com/2015/4/28/5f013b09-ea89-46a1-9a45-2689458fc793_800.jpg[/IMG]

[url=http://live.baltimoresun.com/Event/Latest_updates_from_the_Freddie_Gray_case_in_Baltimore]Latest updates on the Baltimore riots and Freddie Gray case[/url]

apparently things are kinda peaceful. looks like white and blacks are walking together. looks like a community feel and not kids running in packs.

im sure there will be bash n grabs but hopefully no large violent packs.

could baltimore be coming together? at least for a moment?

CRedskinsRule 04-28-2015 05:50 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1111775][url=http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/28/us/baltimore-riot-mom-smacks-son/index.html]Video shows Baltimore mom smack masked son over riots - CNN.com[/url]

First, she deserves an award...and second she needs to be put in charge of something. Gives me hope[/QUOTE]
Guaranteed DHS will track her down and punish her. It won't make the news.

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NC_Skins 04-28-2015 05:56 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
A good read about the systematic police brutality that's gone on in Baltimore for quite some time.


[url=http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/the-brutality-of-police-culture-in-baltimore/391158/]Freddie Gray Is Only the Latest Apparent Victim of Baltimore Police Violence - The Atlantic[/url]

DynamiteRave 04-28-2015 06:17 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
My co-worker's ex-boyfriend died in February in Baltimore City police custody over unpaid child support.

He had an asthma attack and was denied his inhaler.

NC_Skins 04-28-2015 09:03 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
Give some serious props to this mom. Her reasoning is even more sound.

[url=http://www.cbsnews.com/news/baltimore-mother-toya-graham-on-why-she-smacked-son-i-dont-want-him-to-be-a-freddie-gray/]Baltimore mom who smacked son during riots: "I don't want him to be a Freddie Gray" - CBS News[/url]




Conservative media is way too predictable in this situations. They'll show a handful of incidents and then paint the whole movement as a bunch of "animals" wanting a "handout". You got to respect these gang members for at least standing up for the truth.


[url=http://www.rawstory.com/2015/04/gang-members-deny-police-claims-of-truce-to-take-out-white-cops-theyre-saying-were-animals/]Gang members deny police claims of truce to ‘take out’ white cops: ‘They’re saying we’re animals’[/url]

DynamiteRave 04-28-2015 09:43 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
18 minutes til curfew. People seem to think pure pandemonium is going to break out.

I think it'll be alright.

NC_Skins 04-28-2015 10:33 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
What kind of bush league shit is the Baltimore City Paper. Check this crap out.

[url=http://imgur.com/gallery/QVh32]The Corruption of City Paper (Baltimore) - Album on Imgur[/url]


Slandering a poor girl as trying to rob one of the looters, and other BCP staff falsifying stories. The hell has happened to journalism these days?

CRedskinsRule 04-28-2015 11:32 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1111803]18 minutes til curfew. People seem to think pure pandemonium is going to break out.

I think it'll be alright.[/QUOTE]
Glad you were right. I felt the bad apples were going to make there presence known. Glad I was wrong

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JoeRedskin 04-29-2015 08:57 AM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
For all their institutional flaws (and there are many), the Baltimore Police department handled last night's curfew in an exemplary manner.

over the mountain 04-29-2015 10:43 AM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[IMG]http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Ci4xRjryTJsBx8YSlkloqQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ--/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/news/2015-04-29/8e4a36b0-ee20-11e4-9ee8-6f782592a649_baltimorekid.jpg[/IMG]

a lot of admiration for the BCPD for their restraint, for their seemingly true interest in dialogue with the community, for their willingness to stand there at times and take verbal abuse/complaints.

a lot of admiration for the people in druid hill and surrounding areas. to come out the next day and reclaim your neighborhood. to do volunteer clean up. to make yesterday a positive community vibe. people were grilling hot dogs, doing drum circles, dance groups were brought in.

a lot of admiration for the local community leaders. its seems they have truly tried to reject the outside forces of shabaz malik and even al sharton. the local leaders really played a large role in getting out the right message.

of course, we await the announcement of charges or no charges. then things may get very ugly.

but for right now, for yesterday, baltimore as a community responded.

NC_Skins 04-29-2015 11:08 AM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
Jon Stewart wins again.

[url=http://www.mediaite.com/tv/stewart-goes-off-maybe-we-shouldve-cared-about-baltimore-before-it-was-on-fire/#ooid=V0a2JzdDp1XnQMnVztlyxgsx21z8cLav]Stewart Goes Off: Maybe We Should’ve Cared About Baltimore Before It Was ‘On Fire’ | Mediaite[/url]


Going to miss him.

HailGreen28 04-29-2015 08:43 PM

Re: Baltimore riots
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1111830]Conservative media is way too predictable in this situations. They'll show a handful of incidents and then paint the whole movement as a bunch of "animals" wanting a "handout". You got to respect these gang members for at least standing up for the truth.


[url=http://www.rawstory.com/2015/04/gang-members-deny-police-claims-of-truce-to-take-out-white-cops-theyre-saying-were-animals/]Gang members deny police claims of truce to ‘take out’ white cops: ‘They’re saying we’re animals’[/url][/quote]Between gangs and the media, who is telling the truth? They are both liars, but at least the media isn't smashing windows and looting.


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