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Chico23231 10-30-2015 10:46 AM

Skins Bye Week, Mid Season Report
 
How are we feeling about the team...likes/dislikes? 3-4 Is right at what I expected.

Offense Ranked 26th Yards 22nd Points - Passing is about middle of road, running the ball yardage has decreased slowly now to 21st in the league

Defense Ranked 16th Yards 16th Points

Special Teams: much better than last year and has slowly improved since the beginning of the year. The Kicker change was huge and we done better in coverage. We have eliminated alot of the penalities, which is a killer especially on teams since the beginning of the year.

When it comes down to the eye test, we seem much more competitive than the last 2 years. Gruden is doing a better job, but I think the coaching staff additions in the offseason may be more of the reason. Callahan and Fewell have done an outstanding job with their units. Secondary has been better than expected and they have dealt with the most injuries.

Great: the rookie class: Jarrett, Smith, Crowder, Schreff and Jones making huge strides. Clutch plays: a couple last minute wins.

Good: Oline: Especially Trent and Moses(we dont talk enough about Moses-he's been killing it), new Kicker Hopkins, Breeland, Jordan Reed and Chris Baker.

Bad: Run defense, Paea, Alfmo, and Injuries.

QB situation is always talked about but I think Cousins is still the guy I thought he was...limited. Let's see if he can grow this second half, we dont have any other options.

Thoughts on the first half? Surprises? Disappointments?

HailGreen28 10-30-2015 11:15 AM

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I'm surprised we can still be optimistic about our offense this late in the season. I think our kickers have more to do with that than anyone else, including QB. Other than that, losing record (check), Garcon's efforts being wasted (check), lousy defense (check), the season has been pretty much what I expected and feared.

skinsfan69 10-30-2015 12:16 PM

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We are pretty much where I thought we'd be. Several more games are on the schedule that we can win. New Orleans, Chicago, Buffalo, Dallas. Maybe we get to 7 or 8 wins?

SFREDSKIN 10-30-2015 01:21 PM

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If we get those injured players back, we can have a better record the second half. The OL will get better, hopefully our running game and run D also improve.

Hog1 10-30-2015 02:08 PM

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In short:
I cannot think of anything that is....worse this year than it was last year.
Translation.....we're going the right way.
Bless you , Scott...

MTK 10-30-2015 03:21 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1127231]We are pretty much where I thought we'd be. Several more games are on the schedule that we can win. New Orleans, Chicago, Buffalo, Dallas. Maybe we get to 7 or 8 wins?[/QUOTE]


7-8 would be a nice improvement and something to build on.

JoeRedskin 10-30-2015 03:23 PM

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Yeah - I think I see progress. We have several winnable games in the last nine. Be nice if we could win two or three in a row.

FRPLG 10-31-2015 09:14 AM

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I thought going into the season we were a 7-8 win team if everything went perfect. It hasn't and somehow we could still see 7-8 wins. I guess mostly because the NFC East is so awful. We're mediocre which is what we've been for years. But I do think we're seeing some fundamental improvements that we haven't seen in a long time. Long term figuring out the QB sit is the biggest deal but for now it is what it is.

KI Skins Fan 10-31-2015 10:14 AM

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[quote=FRPLG;1127280]I thought going into the season we were a 7-8 win team if everything went perfect. It hasn't and somehow we could still see 7-8 wins. I guess mostly because the NFC East is so awful. [B]We're mediocre which is what we've been for years. [/B]But I do think we're seeing some fundamental improvements that we haven't seen in a long time. Long term figuring out the QB sit is the biggest deal but for now it is what it is.[/quote]

Sorry, but we haven't even been mediocre. We've been bad. We're aspiring to become mediocre this season and hoping to become very good in the next couple of seasons.

We need to be patient. They say patience is a virtue, you know. Personally, I don't mind being patient with the Redskins as long as they hurry the f*** up and win their division this season!

DynamiteRave 10-31-2015 11:02 AM

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I'm not going to try to predict who we'll be after the bye. I just take solace in two things: One, the NFC East is absolutely dreadful so really any of these terrible teams have a shot. Two, we're better than the Ravens so working is Baltimore is completely bearable right now. :D

KI Skins Fan 10-31-2015 12:22 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1127284]I'm not going to try to predict who we'll be after the bye. I just take solace in two things: One, the NFC East is absolutely dreadful so really any of these terrible teams have a shot. Two, we're better than the Ravens so working is Baltimore is completely bearable right now. :D[/quote]

Give it to the Ravens fans with both barrels! They never eased up on me when I worked in Baltimore.

This is a true exchange I had with a Ravens fan:

Ravens Fan: You're a Redskins fan? I [U]hate[/U] the Redskins! In fact, I hate everything about D.C. Tell me, what do people in D.C. think about Baltimore?

Me: To tell you the truth, we don't.

A10sROCK 10-31-2015 08:48 PM

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I thought we would be a 7 or 8 win team, so I think we're on track. The best thing to see this season is what a very good GM can do to improve the team through the draft and FA. Also, we have added several coaches who are immediately making improvements on their portion of the team.

We won't get significantly above average until the QB spot is filled with a franchise QB. Don't know if KC is that guy, but its refreshing to see a younger player fighting for that spot and not worried about other aspects of the game or social media.

EARTHQUAKE2689 10-31-2015 09:02 PM

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One thing I think we can all agree on, when Jordan Reed is in the game he is a top 5 TE

Hog1 10-31-2015 11:33 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1127284]I'm not going to try to predict who we'll be after the bye. I just take solace in two things: One, the NFC East is absolutely dreadful so really any of these terrible teams have a shot. Two, [B]we're better than the Ravens so working is Baltimore is completely bearable right now[/B]. :D[/quote]

Makes life worth living........

skinsfaninok 11-01-2015 12:28 AM

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Glad we have a bye we Need the rest for the 2nd half. Yes quake he's a top 5 Te

kct1975 11-01-2015 08:06 AM

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1127284]I'm not going to try to predict who we'll be after the bye. I just take solace in two things: One, the NFC East is absolutely dreadful so really any of these terrible teams have a shot. Two, we're better than the Ravens so working is Baltimore is completely bearable right now. :D[/QUOTE]
BTTR
(Better Than The Ravens) [emoji6]

BaltimoreSkins 11-01-2015 08:22 AM

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Chico I have to agree with you spot on. Obviously I am speculating here but I think that Sean and Jon really had in mind the offense to function around the run game with KC managing and not having to throw it more 20x most games. The fact that has fallen a part miserably and we have been able to adjust to passing game as the focal point and the season has not yet imploded is great. I don't think anyone thinks that KC is the QB of the future but I am not sure when it will be addressed. Scot does not seem to be someone who will sign or draft on need without it being a quality change.

ethat001 11-01-2015 09:09 AM

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Agree w BaltimoreSkins, seemed like the plan was a good running game, as witnessed in the first 4 games.. But who knows really why that isn't working.. poor RB play? Oline injuries? poor TE blocking? predictable play calling? lack of downfield passing? Anyway, hope we fix this going forward.

I for one believe KC could be our QB of the future. Of course, "could be" is different than "will be". IF we get running game going, IF we get better WR play (?draft tall #1 WR to develop next year to stretch field), IF Reed stays healthy and we have a good backup TE when he's not, and IF our defense stops letting them score every drive to take us out of running the ball.... I think KC has always lacked confidence, and when he's off he's off. Perhaps the "Did you like that" nation-wide phenomenon gives him that confidence long-term?

BUT, I'd say we still draft a QB in the middle rounds to develop and perhaps add a veteran backup QB (?is Bradford any better than Colt?).. And then give Cousins the job with confidence unless / until he messes up.

Chico23231 11-01-2015 09:50 AM

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Run game has been a disappointment as the season has worn on, BUT Jones and Chris Thompson have been good, contributing backs.

Reasons the running game suffered:

1. D coordinator are committing to stopping the run because they are comfortable with our limited passing game. We don't have speed with garçon and grant, so they don't have to play over the top.
2. Alfmo has not been good. You would think a power back would be a fit with Callahan, I'm a little lost.
3. Luavo injury hurt the run game. Our centers are effing terrible in the run game...Kory l was terrible, mcrib isn't much better.

I think my answer to help the run game...get d jax back healthy and make Matt jones the feature back with Chris Thompson getting an expanding role.

KI Skins Fan 11-01-2015 09:53 AM

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1127304]Chico I have to agree with you spot on. Obviously I am speculating here but I think that Sean and Jon really had in mind the offense to function around the run game with KC managing and not having to throw it more 20x most games. The fact that has fallen a part miserably and we have been able to adjust to passing game as the focal point and the season has not yet imploded is great. [B]I don't think anyone thinks that KC is the QB of the future[/B] but I am not sure when it will be addressed. Scot does not seem to be someone who will sign or draft on need without it being a quality change.[/quote]

Wrong! I think Kirk can be our QB of the future because I think that we can win big with a QB who is good but not great as long as he has a strong team around him. It's been done many times before.

HailGreen28 11-01-2015 09:54 AM

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I think Garcon is underrated speed-wise. He certainly doesn't have much trouble pulling away from people after the catch.

Well, tough luck our opponent this week is The Bye. Nobody has ever defeated this opponent before!:cheeky:

KI Skins Fan 11-01-2015 10:01 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1127317]Run game has been a disappointment as the season has worn on, BUT Jones and Chris Thompson have been good, contributing backs.

Reasons the running game suffered:

1. D coordinator are committing to stopping the run because they are comfortable with our limited passing game. We don't have speed with garçon and grant, so they don't have to play over the top.
2. [B]Alfmo has not been good.[/B] You would think a power back would be a fit with Callahan, I'm a little lost.
3. Luavo injury hurt the run game. Our centers are effing terrible in the run game...Kory l was terrible, mcrib isn't much better.

I think my answer to help the run game...get d jax back healthy and make Matt jones the feature back with Chris Thompson getting an expanding role.[/quote]

Alfmo has been indecisive and he seems to lack explosion. Maybe the former is causing the latter.

KI Skins Fan 11-01-2015 10:03 AM

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[quote=HailGreen28;1127321]I think Garcon is underrated speed-wise. He certainly doesn't have much trouble pulling away from people after the catch.

Well, tough luck our opponent this week is The Bye. Nobody has ever defeated this opponent before!:cheeky:[/quote]

Redskins 56, Bye 0.

kct1975 11-06-2015 04:05 PM

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Redskins' Jackson, Kerrigan, Hall questionable Sunday vs. Patriots
[URL]http://www.thescore.com/news/874358[/URL]

I feel bad about Kerrigan, but it is honestly time to get rid of Jackson and Hall.

Schneed10 11-06-2015 04:29 PM

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[quote=kct1975;1127660]Redskins' Jackson, Kerrigan, Hall questionable Sunday vs. Patriots
[url=http://www.thescore.com/news/874358]Redskins' Jackson, Kerrigan, Hall questionable Sunday vs. Patriots | theScore[/url]

I feel bad about Kerrigan, but it is honestly time to get rid of Jackson and Hall.[/quote]

Hall, yes. Old as dirt.

Jackson?? Not old at all. Only if you can find me a threat to replace him with. Cap space is not a major constraint for us this offseason.

Alvin Walton 11-06-2015 04:55 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1127662]Hall, yes. Old as dirt.

Jackson?? Not old at all. Only if you can find me a threat to replace him with. Cap space is not a major constraint for us this offseason.[/quote]

You need to be on the field to be a threat....

DYoungJelly 11-06-2015 07:34 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1127317]Run game has been a disappointment as the season has worn on, BUT Jones and Chris Thompson have been good, contributing backs.

Reasons the running game suffered:

1. D coordinator are committing to stopping the run because they are comfortable with our limited passing game. We don't have speed with garçon and grant, so they don't have to play over the top.
2. Alfmo has not been good. You would think a power back would be a fit with Callahan, I'm a little lost.
3. Luavo injury hurt the run game. Our centers are effing terrible in the run game...Kory l was terrible, mcrib isn't much better.

I think my answer to help the run game...get d jax back healthy and make Matt jones the feature back with Chris Thompson getting an expanding role.[/quote]

Respectfully disagree with a couple of points.

I think Long has been ok after the 1st game he started. Kory started against Miami and the Rams.

Carrier has been getting killed in the run game, although I thought he was serviceable last game. I'm still not sure McCoy should be on the field at all.

After week 2, everyone on here including me was singing the praises of Callahan. A few posters even called for him to replace Gruden.

Haven't seen a pro Callahan post since the week after the Rams game (I'm not saying one doesn't exist).

How much blame should he get? He got all the credit when it worked.

If not him, then who? Gruden, McVay?

OL, TE, WR, the RB themselves?

EDIT:

Nm, as soon as I posted I realized it's all Gruden's fault.

DynamiteRave 11-06-2015 08:01 PM

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[quote=kct1975;1127660]Redskins' Jackson, Kerrigan, Hall questionable Sunday vs. Patriots
[url=http://www.thescore.com/news/874358]Redskins' Jackson, Kerrigan, Hall questionable Sunday vs. Patriots | theScore[/url]

I feel bad about Kerrigan, but it is honestly time to get rid of Jackson and Hall.[/quote]

Kerrigan is questionable? The dude just had hand surgery. That seems like a given he's going to be out.

I could see him back by the Giants game.

ethat001 11-06-2015 09:24 PM

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Btw, Leonard Williams is tearing it up w the Jets. Scherff has been good, but I wonder how we'll look at this draft in a few years. Our Dline has sucked and really could've used Williams. I wonder if Williams+replacement-level-guard is better than Scherff and what we have... Time will tell.

kct1975 11-06-2015 09:30 PM

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[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1127664]You need to be on the field to be a threat....[/QUOTE]
Exactly! [emoji106] [emoji120]
[QUOTE=Schneed10;1127662]Hall, yes. Old as dirt.

Jackson?? Not old at all. Only if you can find me a threat to replace him with. Cap space is not a major constraint for us this offseason.[/QUOTE]
I understand injuries, having blown out my ACL this summer, but honestly Jackson injury has lasted too long.

kct1975 11-07-2015 04:11 PM

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This isn't good...

Redskins' Terrance Knighton will not play vs. Patriots due to migraine

[URL]http://www.thescore.com/news/875260[/URL]

DYoungJelly 11-07-2015 04:25 PM

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[quote=kct1975;1127687]This isn't good...

Redskins' Terrance Knighton will not play vs. Patriots due to migraine

[url=http://www.thescore.com/news/875260]Redskins' Terrance Knighton will not play vs. Patriots due to migraine | theScore[/url][/quote]

I wouldn't expect him to play much against NE.

We will be in a ton of nickle.


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