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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/16/mike-pettine-wouldnt-put-russell-wilson-in-the-top-tier-of-nfl-qbs/]Mike Pettine wouldn’t put Russell Wilson in the top tier of NFL QBs | ProFootballTalk[/url]

I once said RW was overrated and that he isn't as good as RG3......

Damn I was blinded by the B&G

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I said the same, but I don't think I was blinded. His first year Griffin was better. The difference is injuries and progression by Wilson, and regression by Griffin.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1132945][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/16/mike-pettine-wouldnt-put-russell-wilson-in-the-top-tier-of-nfl-qbs/]Mike Pettine wouldn’t put Russell Wilson in the top tier of NFL QBs | ProFootballTalk[/url]

I once said RW was overrated and that he isn't as good as RG3......

Damn I was blinded by the B&G[/quote]

Well Wilson wasn't asked to do much prior to this year, yet he was good enough to help his team win a SB and get there twice.

But now that the running game is gone and the defense is not that elite anymore, Wilson is playing at an elite level and Seattle is getting their money's worth. I know it's been only four weeks, but he's being insane during that time.

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1132947]I said the same, but I don't think I was blinded. His first year Griffin was better. The difference is injuries and progression by Wilson, and regression by Griffin.[/quote]

RG3 had to be better since he was asked to carry a team, whereas Wilson had the fortune of being eased into the QB position and didn't need to do much with the elite running game and defense.

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Who is your MVP for the season so far?

Here are my rankings

1. Cam Newton
2. Tom Brady
3. Josh Norman

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Yeah both statements are true. Wilson has really come on as of late and deserves the praise he is getting.

However in 2012, it's not hard to see why Robert was Rook of the year. He did the most with the least around him and Wilson mostly really came into the picture once Darrell Bevel realized that the read option was a viable strategy. Seattle started running it a lot more later in that season and it helped improve Wilson's stats, however over the course of the entire season game-for-game? Robert was better.

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Cam by far is the mvp imo. Nobody would have imagined a 13-0 start and his number are great. Gotta give it to him

1. Cam
2. Brady
3. AD

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[quote=Ruhskins;1132951]Well Wilson wasn't asked to do much prior to this year, yet he was good enough to help his team win a SB and get there twice.

But now that the running game is gone and the defense is not that elite anymore, Wilson is playing at an elite level and Seattle is getting their money's worth. I know it's been only four weeks, but he's being insane during that time.



RG3 had to be better since he was asked to carry a team, whereas Wilson had the fortune of being eased into the QB position and didn't need to do much with the elite running game and defense.[/quote]

He also didn't have a new coach come in and install a completely different offense, and while I am not trying to get off on a tangent here because I believe the QB situation with this team has been settled (At least as far as when it comes to who is presently on the roster), I still don't understand all the hate for Robert's 2013 season. He threw more picks than he did as a rookie, but his overall passing stats were on track to be better, he was out there mostly on one good leg and the defense had really regressed to.

It took 3.75 seasons for Wilson to start showing he could be the catalyst of the Seahawk's offense and really those examples are still very small and they have played some awful teams these last couple of weeks which probably has at least something to do with his improved performance. I remember through the first two months of this season a lot of 'Hawks fans were questioning the money they paid for his contract.

One big thing Seattle has been since Wilson was drafted? Consistent. They run the same offense, the defense up until this season has been a beast (and it is still pretty good just not all-worldly at the moment) It's likely a lot easier to bring a young QB along slowly when there is consistency.

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Hankerson a Patriot:

[url=http://nesn.com/2015/12/leonard-hankerson-provides-patriots-with-size-speed-at-wide-receiver/]Leonard Hankerson Provides Patriots With Size, Speed At Wide Receiver | New England Patriots | NESN.com[/url]

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Giants resign an old friend ...................


[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/16/giants-bring-back-barry-cofield/]Giants bring back Barry Cofield | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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BC was a badass......

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I cannot wait for the color rush to be flushed.

Rams' uniforms look like big bags of urine.

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Yeah this is an ugly game with ugly unis.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1132960]Cam by far is the mvp imo. Nobody would have imagined a 13-0 start and his number are great. Gotta give it to him

1. Cam
2. Brady
3. AD[/quote]



AD? hell no. If anything, Carson Palmer.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1133002]I cannot wait for the color rush to be flushed.

Rams' uniforms look like big bags of urine.

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Hey remember when the Rams won that trade and were on their way to building a Super Bowl team?

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[quote=NC_Skins;1133004]AD? hell no. If anything, Carson Palmer.[/quote]

I agree on Palmer.

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This game is tough to watch for so many reasons. It looks like cyndi lauper threw up all over the field.

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[quote=MTK;1133008]Hey remember when the Rams won that trade and were on their way to building a Super Bowl team?[/quote]

I remember it like it was yesterday.

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the last onside kick made me realize how good Hopkins' ability to kick a good onside kick is

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[quote=MTK;1133008]Hey remember when the Rams won that trade and were on their way to building a Super Bowl team?[/quote]


Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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Cam Newton MVP

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[quote=30gut;1133035]Cam Newton MVP[/quote]


He doesn't play defense and that defense has won a lot of games.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1133053]He doesn't play defense and that defense has won a lot of games.[/QUOTE]


For perspective we can take a look at Eli winning mvp when Justin Tuck deserved it. [emoji12]

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[quote=Giantone;1133053]He doesn't play defense and that defense has won a lot of games.[/quote]

Agreed. His numbers are good, but not great. I don't think anyone can say the Panthers' success is dependent on him as much as, for example, the Patriots success is on Brady.

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[quote=Giantone;1133053]He doesn't play defense and that defense has won a lot of games.[/quote]Is it Brady for you then? B/c the Pats have a good defense too.

The Patriots defense is 6th in yards and 8th in points.
The Panthers defense is 3rd in yards and tied for 4th in points.

Brady doesn't play defense either though.

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[url=http://deadspin.com/bankruptcy-filings-clinton-portis-owes-nearly-5-milli-1748702544]Bankruptcy Filings: Clinton Portis Owes Nearly $5 Million[/url]

hey whats Portis up too? oh just being broke

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[quote=30gut;1133057]Is it Brady for you then? B/c the Pats have a good defense too.

The Patriots defense is 6th in yards and 8th in points.
The Panthers defense is 3rd in yards and tied for 4th in points.

Brady doesn't play defense either though.[/quote]

Thing is Brady has done it over and over, time and again with a whole cast of characters so it wouldn't be a surprise and he would be deserving ,my out side pick is Carson Palmer all year long he has been nothing but great!

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And Brady has had to overcome injuries to offensive players far more than Cam.


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[quote=punch it in;1133054]For perspective we can take a look at Eli winning mvp when Justin Tuck deserved it. [emoji12][/quote]

We could but we won't.

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[quote=Chico23231;1133061][URL="http://deadspin.com/bankruptcy-filings-clinton-portis-owes-nearly-5-milli-1748702544"]Bankruptcy Filings: Clinton Portis Owes Nearly $5 Million[/URL]

hey whats Portis up too? oh just being broke[/quote]

Adam Carriker says......he's just trying to drive his worth down..

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[quote=Hog1;1133074]Adam Carriker says......he's just trying to drive his worth down..[/quote]

:lol:

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1133061][url=http://deadspin.com/bankruptcy-filings-clinton-portis-owes-nearly-5-milli-1748702544]Bankruptcy Filings: Clinton Portis Owes Nearly $5 Million[/url]

hey whats Portis up too? oh just being broke[/QUOTE]
Another rich athlete broke smh

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Another reason I never liked Portis......fecking moron.

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I'd rather have Sat night football over Thurs night all year long.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1133126]I'd rather have Sat night football over Thurs night all year long.[/QUOTE]


Hell yea to that.

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Me too

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[quote=MTK;1133126]I'd rather have Sat night football over Thurs night all year long.[/quote]

Thursday night is way too quick a turnaround for teams that play the Sunday before. It was a terrible idea and still is. They need to move it back Friday or Saturday. Terrible product on Thursday night

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[quote=MTK;1133126]I'd rather have Sat night football over Thurs night all year long.[/quote]

Yes, much better.

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Jeez, really jets? Effin terrible

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Goodbye Cowboys