2016 Redskins Salary Cap Status
 

Salary Cap: $155.3M
[U]Cap Space Carried Over from 2015: $5.8M[/U]
Redskins Cap: $161.2M

Entering 2016 Redskins Cap Total (Top 51): $147.4M
Released Robert Griffin III ($16.15M)
Released Jason Hatcher ($4.2M)
Released Dashon Goldson ($8.0M)
Released Jeron Johnson ($1.0M)
Tendered Will Compton $0.6M
Tendered Tress Way $0.6M
Tendered Chris Thompson $0.7M
Tendered Duke Ihenacho $1.7M
Resigned LB Mason Foster $1.1M
Resigned QB Colt McCoy $1.8M
Resigned DL Kedric Golston $0.6M
Resigned TE Logan Paulsen $0.6M
Signed DL Kendall Reyes $2.5M
Franchise Tag - Kirk Cousins: $19.9M
[U]Net Six Players Removed from top 51: ($3.0M)[/U]
Total 2016 Cap on Rule of 51 Roster: $145.2M

[B]Current Cap Room: $16.0M[/B]

[U]Potential Cuts with Savings Net of Rule of 51:[/U]
Pierre Garcon $7.5M
Desean Jackson $6.3M
DeAngelo Hall $3.0M
Perry Riley $3.5M
Andre Roberts $2.5M
Kory Lichtensteiger $2.5M
[SIZE="1"]there are others but their impact would be less than $1.0M so I won't bother[/SIZE]

Caveats:

The team will not likely cut all of the players listed. It may rework some of their contracts, or ask for pay cuts. I personally think they will (and should) keep DeSean, Pierre, Steiger, Hall and Goldson (released). But one could make an argument for cutting ties or reworking contracts. I think Andre Roberts and Perry Riley are definite cut candidates. Hatcher too (released). So instead of laying out a plan, I give you the net cap savings, and you can decide for yourself.

Signing Kirk Cousins to a long term deal would likely free up additional cap space in 2016, since the cap impact in the first year of a long term deal is likely to be considerably less than the franchise tag value of $19.9M.

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Note, if Cousins gets resigned for a huge deal like $17M per season, that does not mean his cap hit in the first year will be $17M. The cap hit can be less in the early years of the contract, depending on the structure of bonuses and guaranteed money. Read Cap 101 if you want to learn more about how the accounting works.

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As always, thanks Schneed.

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[quote=Schneed10;1136217]Note, if Cousins gets resigned for a huge deal like $17M per season, that does not mean his cap hit in the first year will be $17M. The cap hit can be less in the early years of the contract, depending on the structure of bonuses and guaranteed money. Read Cap 101 if you want to learn more about how the accounting works.[/quote]

I doubt Cousins gets an average of $17 million per year. If so, his cap number could be less than $10 million.

Is any of the contract other than the bonus guaranteed ?

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[quote=Irrefutable;1136223]I doubt Cousins gets an average of $17 million per year. If so, his cap number could be less than $10 million.

Is any of the contract other than the bonus guaranteed ?[/quote]

It can be, it can be whatever ends up being negotiated. You can make base salary in the first three years guaranteed if you want.

RG3's rookie deal for example was 100% guaranteed, every penny except for the $16.1M option that was added, that's guaranteed only for injury.

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hatcher
riley
and roberts definitely gone. Goldsons contract should be reworked. not because i think he is a great safety, but from what i have read a very good locker room guy. and at that number i say keep both our WOs

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[quote=dmek25;1136266]hatcher
riley
and roberts definitely gone. Goldsons contract should be reworked. not because i think he is a great safety, but from what i have read a very good locker room guy. and at that number i say keep both our WOs[/quote]

Agree about Hatcher. With Mason Foster and Keenan Robinson both UFA's after this season, the Skins may end up keeping Riley.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1136223]I doubt Cousins gets an average of $17 million per year. If so, his cap number could be less than $10 million.

Is any of the contract other than the bonus guaranteed ?[/quote]

Dream on! All Cousins needs to do is say "no" to any Skins contract offer and they'll be forced to franchise him at $19.5MM. I'm pretty sure that Kirk and his agent can do arithmetic.

Isn't time for all of us to realize that Kirk is in the driver's seat in contract negotiations? Simply put, we can't do without him. He is now the most valuable player on the team. Kirk and his agent know that and he's going to get paid.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1136270]Agree about Hatcher. With Mason Foster and Keenan Robinson both UFA's after this season, the Skins may end up keeping Riley.[/quote]

I would keep Foster instead of Riley.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1136273]I would keep Foster instead of Riley.[/quote]

Me, too. I've always liked Foster and he's performed well for us. [B]BUT[/B] he is an UFA, so he doesn't have to sign with us. If he decides to go elsewhere, it may be prudent to keep Riley who is already signed for 2016.

BTW, I think the Skins will draft an ILB this year. Reggie Ragland, perhaps?

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So looking at the cap sheets, here is another part of the equation. We have some important FA's of our own that need to be addressed. Looking at the cap sheets here are the guys who become UFA's this year (not including RGIII b/c pretty sure he is not being resigned):

Cousins
W. Compton
M. Foster
K. Robinson
T. Knighton
C. Thompson
D. Young
L. Paulsen

Of these, who do we let walk, who do we try to reup?
I think Cousins and Compton are no-brainers and we shouldn't jerk them around. These are the priority resignings.

While others may disagree, I think Knighton is close to a priority - he brings a lot to the table (both figuratively and literally). We should make every reasonable effort to resign him.

Foster is another "make every reasonable effort" resigning.

Other than those, the only ones out of the rest that I really make an effort for is Thompson and Young. However, they may not even make a move for Young given how little they use him.

Paulson and LeRib are eminently replaceable guys who need to make vet min deals to stick around.

Robinson is tricky, given his benching, they will probably just let him walk as both Compton and Foster are UFA's and Riley could become a cap casualty, he may benefit being in the right place at the right time for a position that is in flux. A lot depends on how the ILB UFA market shakes out.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1136276]So looking at the cap sheets, here is another part of the equation. We have some important FA's of our own that need to be addressed. Looking at the cap sheets here are the guys who become UFA's this year (not including RGIII b/c pretty sure he is not being resigned):

Cousins
W. Compton
M. Foster
K. Robinson
T. Knighton
C. Thompson
D. Young
L. Paulsen

Of these, who do we let walk, who do we try to reup?
I think Cousins and Compton are no-brainers and we shouldn't jerk them around. These are the priority resignings.

While others may disagree, I think Knighton is close to a priority - he brings a lot to the table (both figuratively and literally). We should make every reasonable effort to resign him.

Foster is another "make every reasonable effort" resigning.

Other than those, the only ones out of the rest that I really make an effort for is Thompson and Young. However, they may not even make a move for Young given how little they use him.

Paulson and LeRib are eminently replaceable guys who need to make vet min deals to stick around.

Robinson is tricky, given his benching, they will probably just let him walk as both Compton and Foster are UFA's and Riley could become a cap casualty, he may benefit being in the right place at the right time for a position that is in flux. A lot depends on how the ILB UFA market shakes out.[/quote]

Isn't Compton an RFA? If so, that's good for the Skins.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1136276]So looking at the cap sheets, here is another part of the equation. We have some important FA's of our own that need to be addressed. Looking at the cap sheets here are the guys who become UFA's this year (not including RGIII b/c pretty sure he is not being resigned):

Cousins
W. Compton
M. Foster
K. Robinson
T. Knighton
C. Thompson
D. Young
L. Paulsen

Of these, who do we let walk, who do we try to reup?
I think Cousins and Compton are no-brainers and we shouldn't jerk them around. These are the priority resignings.

While others may disagree, I think Knighton is close to a priority - he brings a lot to the table (both figuratively and literally). We should make every reasonable effort to resign him.

Foster is another "make every reasonable effort" resigning.

Other than those, the only ones out of the rest that I really make an effort for is Thompson and Young. However, they may not even make a move for Young given how little they use him.

Paulson and LeRib are eminently replaceable guys who need to make vet min deals to stick around.

Robinson is tricky, given his benching, they will probably just let him walk as both Compton and Foster are UFA's and Riley could become a cap casualty, he may benefit being in the right place at the right time for a position that is in flux. A lot depends on how the ILB UFA market shakes out.[/quote]

Agree with this. And to add, I think the reason Pot Roast is...A) extremely limited market at NT B) Performance...solid

And ILB is very interesting...

I think Foster is a decent piece, but I would look to upgrade or draft there. Spaight on IR, rookie from last year should be in the mix. Robinson could be retained to back up Compton...Compton has proven to be a decent starter and it wont take a huge contract to lock him up. Riley is gone period.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1136272]Dream on! All Cousins needs to do is say "no" to any Skins contract offer and they'll be forced to franchise him at $19.5MM. I'm pretty sure that Kirk and his agent can do arithmetic.

Isn't time for all of us to realize that Kirk is in the driver's seat in contract negotiations? Simply put, we can't do without him. He is now the most valuable player on the team. Kirk and his agent know that and he's going to get paid.[/quote]

I like Kirk, however he has had 1 good year. At this time last year all the "experts" here wanted to trade him or make him 3rd string. The Redskins have been burned on lots of big contracts... it would be wise to explore the market before committing to a big long term. And the key will be the structure of the contract- bonus money and length.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1136272]Dream on! All Cousins needs to do is say "no" to any Skins contract offer and they'll be forced to franchise him at $19.5MM. I'm pretty sure that Kirk and his agent can do arithmetic.

Isn't time for all of us to realize that Kirk is in the driver's seat in contract negotiations? Simply put, we can't do without him. He is now the most valuable player on the team. Kirk and his agent know that and he's going to get paid.[/quote]

Our contract guys have been great at writing mutually beneficial contracts. I think KC would like to stay here, and the Skins certainly want him too. I will truly be shocked if a) we franchise him, or b) the contract has crazy numbers in it.

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[B]What is Cousin's cap hit if we franchise him?[/B] Does all of the ~ $19 mil convert to CAP money?

The reason I ask, because I have always heard the rule of thumb with effectively knowing who a QB is, is 40 Starts. Cousins is about at 25 starts now, meaning another full season would bring him to that magic number 40.

Would it not make sense to consider the franchise tag as an insurance policy. If you are already giving him a 3 year deal worth 16-17/mil yr... why not just tag him to get some more information and and give the long term deal after that season?

Yes you are paying several million more in the first year, but you are also essentially buying quarterback insurance.

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[quote=RobH4413;1136316][B]What is Cousin's cap hit if we franchise him?[/B] Does all of the ~ $19 mil convert to CAP money?

The reason I ask, because I have always heard the rule of thumb with effectively knowing who a QB is, is 40 Starts. Cousins is about at 25 starts now, meaning another full season would bring him to that magic number 40.

Would it not make sense to consider the franchise tag as an insurance policy. If you are already giving him a 3 year deal worth 16-17/mil yr... why not just tag him to get some more information and and give the long term deal after that season?

Yes you are paying several million more in the first year, but you are also essentially buying quarterback insurance.[/quote]

Once the tag is placed the whole amount counts as guaranteed and against the cap.

Most players reportedly hate the franchise tag, so you could be setting up a hard feelings negotiation where after the tags are done he wants to go somewhere else. My guess is that if we tag him, it would need to be done in the context of trying to get a long term deal done.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1136317]Once the tag is placed the whole amount counts as guaranteed and against the cap.

Most players reportedly hate the franchise tag, so you could be setting up a hard feelings negotiation where after the tags are done he wants to go somewhere else. My guess is that if we tag him, it would need to be done in the context of trying to get a long term deal done.[/quote]

Kirk would get over his feelings being hurt (if we tagged him), being that we are the team that drafted him, started him, and paid him $19 million.

Would the cap implications just completely remove that off the table? Seems to me we would be okay, and that it's a viable, if not likely, option.

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[quote=RobH4413;1136325]Kirk would get over his feelings being hurt (if we tagged him), being that we are the team that drafted him, started him, and paid him $19 million.

Would the cap implications just completely remove that off the table? Seems to me we would be okay, and that it's a viable, if not likely, option.[/quote]

Kirk likely will have several suitors, and if we say, nope, you are our property so we are franchising you, he very well may decide to leave.

Still, if the team franchises him, we would have the space, probably would limit some options. The difference in cap numbers between a well structured 18-20 million 5-6 year contract and a franchise tag value of 19 million is probably about 6 million cap dollars so it would still be in the team's interest to get a reasonable long term contract done

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I definitely don't see this negotiation getting to a hardball stage. I think Kirk loves McVay in particular, and the QB coach and Gruden and his teammates too. I think he will have a strong interest in being here, I don't see the negotiation being painful.

I also think McCloughan will see Cousins' work ethic and level of preparation and know that's the kind of guy he wants to set the tone for the team. He won't lowball him.

They'll come to a deal commensurate with starting QB market value. Anybody thinking we'll get him for $10M per season needs to stop dreaming, McCloughan won't even do that in an opening conversation. And anybody thinking Kirk will have any interest in going somewhere else needs to chill. He'll be here and he'll get a fair deal.

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[quote=Schneed10;1136328]I definitely don't see this negotiation getting to a hardball stage. I think Kirk loves McVay in particular, and the QB coach and Gruden and his teammates too. I think he will have a strong interest in being here, I don't see the negotiation being painful.

I also think McCloughan will see Cousins' work ethic and level of preparation and know that's the kind of guy he wants to set the tone for the team. He won't lowball him.

They'll come to a deal commensurate with starting QB market value. Anybody thinking we'll get him for $10M per season needs to stop dreaming, McCloughan won't even do that in an opening conversation. And anybody thinking Kirk will have any interest in going somewhere else needs to chill. He'll be here and he'll get a fair deal.[/quote]

That's what I think too.

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I'm on the fence as whether to keep Jackson and Garcon.
Anyone think we will go WR in the first or 2nd round?

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If Reed stays healthy - he will demand a large contract extension.

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[quote=Schneed10;1136328]I definitely don't see this negotiation getting to a hardball stage. I think Kirk loves McVay in particular, and the QB coach and Gruden and his teammates too. I think he will have a strong interest in being here, I don't see the negotiation being painful.

I also think McCloughan will see Cousins' work ethic and level of preparation and know that's the kind of guy he wants to set the tone for the team. He won't lowball him.

They'll come to a deal commensurate with starting QB market value. Anybody thinking we'll get him for $10M per season needs to stop dreaming, McCloughan won't even do that in an opening conversation. And anybody thinking Kirk will have any interest in going somewhere else needs to chill. He'll be here and he'll get a fair deal.[/quote]

Spot on...I don't see this being a long, drawn out negotiation. It's gonna be a big number, 16-19 million per.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1136333]I'm on the fence as whether to keep Jackson and Garcon.
Anyone think we will go WR in the first or 2nd round?[/quote]

I would try to renegotiate both of their contracts.... I doubt anyone would be willing pay either one $9 or $10 million next year.

I doubt they would draft a WR in the second round. There are more urgent needs (DL, S, RB, LB etc. )

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[quote=Irrefutable;1136345]I would try to renegotiate both of their contracts.... I doubt anyone would be willing pay either one $9 or $10 million next year.

I doubt they would draft a WR in the second round. There are more urgent needs (DL, S, RB, LB etc. )[/quote]

Jackson would get 12. He's incredibly valuable, don't underrate him. Reed wouldn't have the space he has without Jackson.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1136223]I doubt Cousins gets an average of $17 million per year. If so, his cap number could be less than $10 million.

Is any of the contract other than the bonus guaranteed ?[/quote]


I'd hate to break it to you, but Kirk is without a doubt getting a 17mil/yr average. Think about it, guys like Alex Smith, Ryan Tannehill and Colin Kaepernick all over 17mil/yr and Cousins is clearly better than those guys. Not to mention the cap is going up and so are most of the salaries.


My guess it's going to be a 5 year deal worth about $85mil, with about 25-30mil guaranteed. The only other option will be the franchise tag and that would cost about 19-20mil for a single season.


[url=http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/quarterback/]NFL Salary Rankings | Spotrac[/url]

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you gotta pay kirk. the only bad part about having a good qb is that they eat up a lot of cap space.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1136333]I'm on the fence as whether to keep Jackson and Garcon.
Anyone think we will go WR in the first or 2nd round?[/quote]

Yeah, All Pierre has done is show how valuable he is lately. Going to be tough to move on from either one of them. Josh Gordon I could see being a cheaper option to pursue via free agency with a lower price tag.

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[quote=RobH4413;1136369]Yeah, All Pierre has done is show how valuable he is lately. Going to be tough to move on from either one of them. Josh Gordon I could see being a cheaper option to pursue via free agency with a lower price tag.[/quote]

Josh Gordon???!!! We don't need that kind of disruption. He's a much better fit for for the Cowboys. In fact, I'd like the Cowboys to acquire Josh Gordon [U]and[/U] Billy Manziel.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1136270]Agree about Hatcher. With Mason Foster and Keenan Robinson both UFA's after this season, the Skins may end up keeping Riley.[/quote]

They have Martrell Spaight who they were really high on in the preseason, plus where we pick in the draft there are two or three really good ILB, there is no way they pay Riley, who is good but is still a liability in pass coverage.

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[quote=hutch17;1136376]They have Martrell Spaight who they were really high on in the preseason, plus where we pick in the draft there are two or three really good ILB, there is no way they pay Riley, who is good but is still a liability in pass coverage.[/quote]

Yes, cant forget about Spaight. I think a Foster/Spaight combo would work for the future. Riley is done. I did like the way we were able to use the concussion protocol to basically "redshirt" the dude. He wasn't ready to play, basically put him on the bench for the future.

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[quote=hutch17;1136376]They have Martrell Spaight who they were really high on in the preseason, plus where we pick in the draft there are two or three really good ILB, there is no way they pay Riley, who is good but is still a liability in pass coverage.[/quote]

I think you make valid points but i don't think there is "no way" they pay Riley until they see where they stand at ILB after FA and the draft.

Spaight is probably a step too slow to be very good in coverage. Other than that, I like everything about him. He is said to be a student of the game, so he might be able to compensate for his lack of speed by reading the offensive formations and anticipating the plays.

Like you, I think they may draft an ILB. I hope so, anyway.

I have been a Mason Foster fan since Day 1 of his NFL career. I was surprised that he was available for us to pick up. I'd really like to see the Skins re-sign him.

Compton, Foster, Spaight, and a Rookie might not be too bad at ILB.

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Could also go in this thread

[url=http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/01/08/nfl-desean-jackson-washington-redskins-the-mmqb-unplugged-robert-klemko]DeSean Jackson on Kirk Cousins, Jay Gruden, Chip Kelly and more | The MMQB with Peter King[/url]

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[quote=RobH4413;1136369]Yeah, All Pierre has done is show how valuable he is lately. Going to be tough to move on from either one of them. Josh Gordon I could see being a cheaper option to pursue via free agency with a lower price tag.[/quote]

Josh Gordan is still under contract with the Browns so it's not like we can sign him as a FA. Same with Justin Blackmon and the Jaguars.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1136410]Josh Gordan is still under contract with the Browns so it's not like we can sign him as a FA. Same with Justin Blackmon and the Jaguars.[/quote]
Id be shocked if he were still Brown after all of this. Just my opinion.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1136375]Josh Gordon???!!! We don't need that kind of disruption. He's a much better fit for for the Cowboys. In fact, I'd like the Cowboys to acquire Josh Gordon [U]and[/U] Billy Manziel.[/quote]

Yeah same could have been said about Desean. Also he got caught smoking weed and drinking. Not whipping people with belts on camera. Anyways we have playoff game on Sunday- too early for this debate.

I'm headed to FedEx; first playoff football game I have ever attended.

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[quote=RobH4413;1136421]Yeah same could have been said about Desean. Also he got caught smoking weed and drinking. Not whipping people with belts on camera. Anyways we have playoff game on Sunday- too early for this debate.

I'm headed to FedEx; first playoff football game I have ever attended.[/quote]

DJax was nowhere near a Josh Gordon level nutcase. He had multiple probowl years, and was a proven veteran. I still think CK leaked bs on players he didn't like to smooth the way out.

Can't believe any Skins fan would compare Djax to Josh Gordon in a negative way :doh:

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1136422][B]DJax was nowhere near a Josh Gordon[/B] level nutcase. He had multiple probowl years, and was a proven veteran. I still think CK leaked bs on players he didn't like to smooth the way out.

Can't believe any Skins fan would compare Djax to Josh Gordon in a negative way :doh:[/quote]

Djax is just a selfish bitchgirl diva. Our locker room appears to be strong (unlike most years of late). If that remains the case he will be totally manageable as he is a badass on the field. Scare the hell out of the dbacks.......

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[QUOTE=Hog1;1136447]Djax is just a selfish bitchgirl diva. Our locker room appears to be strong (unlike most years of late). If that remains the case he will be totally manageable as he is a badass on the field. Scare the hell out of the dbacks.......[/QUOTE]

Well I'll just leave this here...

[URL] http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14529073/washington-redskins-wr-desean-jackson-says-chip-kelly-firing-was-karma [/URL]

[b] I was happy to be here and they were happy to have me here. ...

"So I came to work with a smile on my face, and enjoyed having these young guys look up to me in whatever kind of way. It might not be on the field. It might be, "How do I manage my money or interact with my family?" The knowledge I have is worthless if I don't help the young guys. I went through a lot, and I have a lot to offer these young guys with so much talent. They've got to maximize their talent in any way possible." [/b]