Josh Gordon applies for reinstatment
 

What do you think, would he be worth a late round pick and a shot.

Cleveland still owns his rights but I would expect him to be available for a later round pick as they are rebuilding and don't want the headache.

We really need a big true number 1 and he was a beast when playing. I think we have a strong locker room now that can keep people like him in check and make him perform.

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25455628/report-a-year-after-suspension-josh-gordon-applies-for-reinstatement]Report: A year after suspension, Josh Gordon applies for reinstatement - CBSSports.com[/url]

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Pass.

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Is he weed free? He'll be hanging out w/ Johnny Douche in the unemployment line.

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Double pass. Didn't he get into a bunch of trouble while he was suspended? Even now I think his best odds of getting reinstated are 50/50.

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cowboys can have him and johnny

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Cowboys will hop on that real quick and get a couple of great seasons out of him because they just don't give two fucks about character.

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My give a fuck meter isnt registering.

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No thanks. Rather keep our picks.

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I am one of the few middle aged white men that don't look at pot smokers as low lifes. (For the record I only tried it once in college) I heard he stayed out of trouble while suspended, worth a look if you can get him at the "damaged goods" price.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1138090]I am one of the few middle aged white men that don't look at pot smokers as low lifes. (For the record I only tried it once in college) I heard he stayed out of trouble while suspended, worth a look if you can get him at the "damaged goods" price.[/quote]

It has nothing to do with weed...just intelligence.

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But why would the Browns want to let him go now? If they were going to do that, wouldn't they have done it when he got suspended?

Why wait all the way through the suspension until reinstatement? There's a new GM and coach in town there, you have to figure they'll look at it as a blank slate for him.

I doubt he's even on the market, not much point discussing.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1138090]I am one of the few middle aged white men that don't look at pot smokers as low lifes. (For the record I only tried it once in college) I heard he stayed out of trouble while suspended, worth a look if you can get him at the "damaged goods" price.[/quote]

He wasn't suspended for weed. It was booze.

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good player when he can get on the field. we don't need another WR though.

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[quote=That Guy;1138102]good player when he can get on the field. we don't need another WR though.[/quote]

Sad thing is that he is AJ Green level talented, just has the mindset of a complete idiot

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[quote=Schneed10;1138095]He wasn't suspended for weed. It was booze.[/quote]

Even if he was, based on the CBA, failing a drug test for pot is really failing an IQ test in the NFL. They are only testing during certain times of the year.

Failing a pot test means he is an idiot.

Agree with the other posters. Keep our picks and pass.

Gordon and Dez could be great leaders in Dallas.

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Chalk me up as another pass. Don't need anything messing up what we've got going on.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1138122]Even if he was, based on the CBA, failing a drug test for pot is really failing an IQ test in the NFL. They are only testing during certain times of the year.

Failing a pot test means he is an idiot.

Agree with the other posters. Keep our picks and pass.

Gordon and Dez could be great leaders in Dallas.[/quote]

Does this mean we should get rid of TW? You know, Trent being such an idiot for failing a pot test.

Btw, they only test during certain times of the year when you are not in the drug program. Once in it, they are random and done year round.

I personally dont think McC will want to worry about the headache, so I doubt we need to worry about it. Especially if it involves giving up a pick. Vinny thought draft picks worth worthless, McC believes they are gold, even lower ones.

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trade Cleveland Andre Roberts for him

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[quote=Skinzman;1138126]Does this mean we should get rid of TW? You know, Trent being such an idiot for failing a pot test.
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I know you're not in favor of bringing in Gordon but I have to call out this ridiculous "logic". Bringing in a new player with a history of being dumb enough to get caught multiple times is far different than cutting YOUR OWN PLAYER and taking a massive cap hit because of one transgression.

It's an apples and broccoli comparison.

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[quote=Schneed10;1138149]I know you're not in favor of bringing in Gordon but I have to call out this ridiculous "logic". Bringing in a new player with a history of being dumb enough to get caught multiple times is far different than cutting YOUR OWN PLAYER and taking a massive cap hit because of one transgression.

It's an apples and broccoli comparison.[/quote]

Im just calling out the logic that anyone who fails a drug test in the NFL is an idiot, well except certain people. If it applies to one person, it applies to all of them. DYoung is the one who said that TW "Failed an IQ test" therefore making him an idiot. He wasnt talking about Josh Gordon with those statements, he was talking about every single player that has ever failed a drug test due to pot. If you are going to make generalizations about one thing, you cant pick and choose who it applies to. If he means we should keep all of our pot smokers (TW, Breeland, etc) but not take on anyone elses, then he should have said that.

Sweeping generalizations are a bitch. Dont make them if you arent going to back them.

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oh boy...

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Clev is so short on talent , especially on offense. I would expect Jackson to try and get through to him and not let him go. If he's being thrown out there as trade bait and if you're SM, you at least have to make a phone call.

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Super talented guy, if only he could get his head on straight.

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[quote=Schneed10;1138094]But why would the Browns want to let him go now? If they were going to do that, wouldn't they have done it when he got suspended?

Why wait all the way through the suspension until reinstatement? There's a new GM and coach in town there, you have to figure they'll look at it as a blank slate for him.

I doubt he's even on the market, not much point discussing.[/quote]


They didn't release him because they wanted a draft pick for him. I still insist that is partially why we hung onto Griffin. They want no part of a potential issue with a new coach and GM they want their guys.

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[quote=That Guy;1138102]good player when he can get on the field. we don't need another WR though.[/quote]

I doubt very seriously that we keep both Jackson and Garcon and then we desperately need another receiver and even if they both stay neither is really a #1 like Gordon can be.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1138122]Even if he was, based on the CBA, failing a drug test for pot is really failing an IQ test in the NFL. They are only testing during certain times of the year.

Failing a pot test means he is an idiot.

Agree with the other posters. Keep our picks and pass.

Gordon and Dez could be great leaders in Dallas.[/quote]

Didn't Riggins get kicked out of NY for booze and that was back then, he worked out okay on his second chance.

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He had three (3) thu-ree suspensions and a DWI.
Why the feck would anyone want that kind of trouble generator on this team?
The guy is a freakin moron.

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pros > cons = SM will sign him.

imo it depends on whether Gordon is a dummy who loves football or a dummy who is good at football. if it is the former, i think SM would consider him like he probably considers every potential obscure player and move under the sun.

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Pass.

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[quote=hutch17;1138167]Didn't Riggins get kicked out of NY for booze and that was back then, he worked out okay on his second chance.[/quote]

Let's sign Riggins.

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[quote=Skinzman;1138152]Im just calling out the logic that anyone who fails a drug test in the NFL is an idiot, well except certain people. If it applies to one person, it applies to all of them. DYoung is the one who said that TW "Failed an IQ test" therefore making him an idiot. He wasnt talking about Josh Gordon with those statements, he was talking about every single player that has ever failed a drug test due to pot. If you are going to make generalizations about one thing, you cant pick and choose who it applies to. If he means we should keep all of our pot smokers (TW, Breeland, etc) but not take on anyone elses, then he should have said that.

Sweeping generalizations are a bitch. Dont make them if you arent going to back them.[/quote]

Yes. Anyone who uses pot during a time when their employer says we are going to test for pot during this time of the year, but not another time of the year is an idiot.

TW was an idiot of failing a test for pot.

He also bounced back and has been the ultimate team guy and has gone from a quiet guy in the locker room to a team leader who sets an example for everyone around him to follow by giving maximum effort and playing hurt.

Gordon is a whole different situation:

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3rd substance abuse incident in the NFL, and a history of pot infractions in college.

People believe in 2nd chances, maybe even third depending on maturity and the nature of the bad act, but when a dude can't put down a bottle of liquor or a joint for millions of dollars he is not worth a look from the team.

Some might say comparing him to TW is like apples and broccoli.

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[quote=hutch17;1138166]I doubt very seriously that we keep both Jackson and Garcon and then we desperately need another receiver and even if they both stay neither is really a #1 like Gordon can be.[/quote]

why would we get rid of a guy that knows our system and has proven to be a good fit for someone that's going to cost a bunch of money and may never play another snap of football?

it just doesn't seem like a smart move. I don't think we're a super fit for him either, we're not desperate for a WR and we'd only offer incentive laden deals and limited snaps. stranger things have happened i guess, but i'd bet against this.

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[quote=metalskins;1138178]Pass.[/quote]

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He's the type of player you all would say pass too but...
He'll land with the Patriots and dominate the league like he certainly will once he hits the field. Though I have to say we don't have much luck with high risk players.

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[quote=Skins4L;1138477]He's the type of player you all would say pass too but...
He'll land with the Patriots and dominate the league like he certainly will once he hits the field. Though I have to say we don't have much luck with high risk players.[/quote]

if he wanted to show up here for basically a $0 contract, i definitely wouldn't turn him down. but i wouldn't risk actual cap on him. no one can say he can't play.

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A true #1 WR can change a offense.

Gordon is a bunch of other things...druggie, unreliable, makes dumb decisions etc...but he's also a true #1 WR.

I would be willing to roll the dice on this guy.

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[quote=30gut;1138479]A true #1 WR can change a offense.

Gordon is a bunch of other things...druggie, unreliable, makes dumb decisions etc...but he's also a true #1 WR.

I would be willing to roll the dice on this guy.[/quote]

Why would you roll the dice with a character issue guy on this squad? Rather pay for a number 1, high character like Ashlon Jeffery.

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I was on the Josh Gordon band wagon earlier this year and still am. The guy is a knucklehead, and I trust SM to make the judgement on whether or not to keep him so I wont lament if we pass.

Talent-wise, this could be one of those random SM picks that pay dividends. If we don't have (or make) the flexibility to keep both (Pierre and DJAX)- I think it's worth the gamble. There is something about this locker room that I think JG would be able to thrive in (especially if he gets that taste of winning in his mouth).

Low risk, high reward if you ask me.

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[quote=Chico23231;1138481]Why would you roll the dice with a character issue guy on this squad?[/quote]A bunch of reasons, but mainly because IF Gordon stays on the straight and narrow (like Trent and like Breeland) he would be a true #1 WR.

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If the Browns cut him, and Scot were to have a face to face with him like he did with Galette, and signed him to a prove it type of deal, I'd say bring it on.