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Alvin Walton 02-22-2016 11:06 AM

Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
Ok so the Texans pick right after us in the first round.
Most people will say they will take a QB.
Is Brock O the man in Denver?
Does Phoenix need an heir apparent QB?
Could one of those teams trade with us to swoop that last pale Blue Chip QB before the Texans take it?
Would you trade spots (29th or 31st) ?
Not sure what to ask for after the swap....a third and a 4th?

Irrefutable 02-22-2016 11:31 AM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
yes, I was thinking the same thing. There is good depth at DL and the Redskins can still get a good one at pick #30. The Redskins still need help almost everywhere .... WR, TE, C, RB, DL, LB, CB, S. And a back-up QB.

Hopefully half of their needs are filled in free agency. And half can be filled in the draft.... 5 picks in the first four rounds would be nice

Schneed10 02-22-2016 12:42 PM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
Did you just call them the fucking Phoenix Cardinals?

Get out.

Schneed10 02-22-2016 12:44 PM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
As for the question, yes I would definitely take a hard look at any trade down scenario. Whatever the draft chart says, I'd take. The more chances you give McCloughan the more I like our chances.

Chico23231 02-22-2016 12:52 PM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
if they go with Denver, I'd ask to throw in an ounce of blue dream or og kush

Alvin Walton 02-22-2016 01:19 PM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
I'm also wondering if Houston is worried about not getting a quarterback and trading up above us.

Schneed10 02-22-2016 01:33 PM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
We'd be in much better position to speculate on every team's motivation to make draft day moves once we get through free agency. Knowing where Sam Bradford and Ryan Fitzpatrick end up can influence things.

FRPLG 02-22-2016 11:14 PM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
Agree with schneed. SM with more picks is a good thing. Not every draft is going to be a home run like 2015 but he can obviously find talent. Anything extra in the 2/3/4 area could end up being a real good player for us.

Value-wise with either team (and without looking at what picks they have) we'd roughly need either teams' 1 and 2 or 1, 3 and 4. We'd also probably need to swap a later round pick to even it out as we win on value by a slight bit without doing so. Again that is a very rough calculation and not every team lives and dies by the chart so who knows.

Irrefutable 02-22-2016 11:52 PM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
two extra high picks to trade down a few spots would be a no brainer....it sounds like to much compensation

Meks 02-23-2016 03:48 AM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
Phoenix?
N●

Alvin Walton 03-26-2016 09:32 AM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
After getting stripped of some picks for Deflategate the Patriots have quietly restocked their draft.
They have:
1 2nd
2 3rds
2 4ths
1 5th
4 6ths
1 7th

If there is still a blue chip wide receiver on the board when we pick I could see them making a trade with us.

That Guy 03-26-2016 10:28 AM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
the pats always get a bunch of comp picks.

mooby 03-26-2016 10:59 AM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
Comp picks being tradeable start this year or next year? I'm looking forward to that, more trades in the draft are a good thing.

metalskins 03-28-2016 11:20 AM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
I'd just about assume SM is trading down, maybe more than once. He wants that magic number 12 picks.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-28-2016 11:28 AM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
Maybe it's because I want to win now like the impatient bastard that I am, but I get nervous when we're adding a ton of solid guys. I want a few stars here and there. I totally trust Scot, and this is coming from a place of cynicism, but maybe stay put with our first and trade down later? :/

Ruhskins 03-28-2016 11:39 AM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1141366]Maybe it's because I want to win now like the impatient bastard that I am, but I get nervous when we're adding a ton of solid guys. I want a few stars here and there. I totally trust Scot, and this is coming from a place of cynicism, but maybe stay put with our first and trade down later? :/[/quote]

Given how deep the draft is at certain positions (DL for example), I'm fine trading down the first rounder.

Schneed10 03-28-2016 11:40 AM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1141366]Maybe it's because I want to win now like the impatient bastard that I am, but I get nervous when we're adding a ton of solid guys. I want a few stars here and there. I totally trust Scot, and this is coming from a place of cynicism, but maybe stay put with our first and trade down later? :/[/quote]

Keep in mind development could be coming. Reed was a great example this year, and look at Cousins. Those two are definitely the biggest reason we were 9-7. Breeland has been good for us, he's still young, could he take another step? I think there's a high ceiling on Kyshoen Jarrett, if the dude can get his arm nerve healthy. Could Crowder be the next Welker?

And I'm convinced Galette is our disruptive force off the edge, which makes a massive difference.

If Scot just keeps doing what he's doing we'll get some very good contributions from places we might not expect right away.

That Guy 03-28-2016 05:49 PM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
JG has to show he's back from the acl, but here's hoping. it can go the other way on development too though - after amerson's 1st year he looked like he was stepping up... and then he fell off a cliff. I don't think that's the case with the guys you mentioned though. reed was always good, he just could never stay healthy.

Schneed10 03-28-2016 07:28 PM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
Good point, that's why you stay away from free agency. Established vets can go south too. If one of our young guys goes bad at least it's before we've paid out a big deal.

JoeRedskin 03-28-2016 08:20 PM

Re: Trade down with Denver or Phoenix?
 
[quote=Schneed10;1141368]Keep in mind development could be coming. Reed was a great example this year, and look at Cousins. Those two are definitely the biggest reason we were 9-7. Breeland has been good for us, he's still young, could he take another step? I think there's a high ceiling on Kyshoen Jarrett, if the dude can get his arm nerve healthy. Could Crowder be the next Welker?

And I'm convinced Galette is our disruptive force off the edge, which makes a massive difference.

[B]If Scot just keeps doing what he's doing we'll get some very good contributions from places we might not expect right away[/B].[/quote]

Not every star in this league is a first round draft pick or had an instant impact (Richard Sherman was a 4th Rounder). Sometimes it just takes a few years for stars to "happen." Just keep taking lots of shots and developing your own. At some point, the combination of cheap, solid young players creates a situation where stars will arise.


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