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Chico23231 03-08-2016 03:04 PM

NFL Free Agency 2016
 
Jaguars agreed to terms with DL Malik Jackson, formerly of the Broncos, on a six-year, $90 million contract.

The deal includes a whopping $42 million guaranteed, making Jackson one of the highest paid defensive players in league history. He'll get $45 million over the first three years of the deal. Coming off a monster 2015, Jackson, who turned 26 last month, will be transitioning from a 3-4 attack to a 4-3 defense, but has the skills to collapse the pocket no matter the system. It's a huge get for the Jaguars, who desperately need to goose their pass rush in Year 4 of the Gus Bradley era.



IMO this is a major mistake. Good player on a great defense who just won the SB....red flags. 90 million, 42 guarantee is a little much. This stuff rarely works out...

Wow

J. Falcon 03-08-2016 03:16 PM

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Monster deal.

skinsfan69 03-08-2016 03:37 PM

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Terrible move by Jacksonville. He'll never live up to that contract. The guy is not Reggie White. Some of these teams just never learn the ropes about free agency. Didn't they just sign Julius Thomas to big money last year? How'd that work out?

skinsfaninok 03-08-2016 03:39 PM

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Damn that's too much money but hey if they got it spend it I suppose. Jacksonville is on the verge of being really good

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Chico23231 03-08-2016 03:42 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1140298]Terrible move by Jacksonville. He'll never live up to that contract. The guy is not Reggie White. Some of these teams just never learn the ropes about free agency. Didn't they just sign Julius Thomas to big money last year? How'd that work out?[/quote]

He also is transitioning to a 4-3 scheme from a 3-4. Visions of Albert Hanyesworth laying on the ground vs Philly when I read of the guarantee money and the scheme change

mooby 03-08-2016 04:04 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1140301]He also is transitioning to a 4-3 scheme from a 3-4. Visions of Albert Hanyesworth laying on the ground vs Philly when I read of the guarantee money and the scheme change[/quote]

Lol Idk if he'll be that bad but I bet he won't see year 3 of this deal. Seems like every year someone overpays a key role player on a SB champion, and this year Malik Jackson is the big winner.

Defensewins 03-08-2016 04:11 PM

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There are certain teams that are historically terrible and on top of it are cheap. Jacksonville is one of those teams. The owner pockets a ton of the TV money that he really did not earn, because his team does terrible at the gate and on the TV ratings. But all teams get an even cut of the TV money.
Then on top of that when forced to spend money (the 89% rule) they do something stupid like this. They have so many needs but spend heavily on one player. Where is the logic?

Ruhskins 03-08-2016 04:36 PM

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Jacksonville has a ton of cap room, and their coaching staff is basically going to be on the hot seat. So I am not surprised they've made this type of deal.

Ruhskins 03-08-2016 04:41 PM

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Mario Williams to the Dolphins:

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 9m9 minutes ago
The #Dolphins deal with pass-rusher Mario Williams should come today, sources says, and it's expected to land him $8M per year.

That Guy 03-08-2016 04:57 PM

Re: NFL Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=Defensewins;1140303]There are certain teams that are historically terrible and on top of it are cheap. Jacksonville is one of those teams. The owner pockets a ton of the TV money that he really did not earn, because his team does terrible at the gate and on the TV ratings. But all teams get an even cut of the TV money.
Then on top of that when forced to spend money (the 89% rule) they do something stupid like this. They have so many needs but spend heavily on one player. Where is the logic?[/quote]

maybe this contract helps them meet their minimum spending requirement... I also think it's a mistake.

skinsfan69 03-08-2016 05:12 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1140305]Mario Williams to the Dolphins:

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 9m9 minutes ago
The #Dolphins deal with pass-rusher Mario Williams should come today, sources says, and it's expected to land him $8M per year.[/quote]

Another terrible move. Who is running things now in Miami? 8 million for a past his prime Williams?

Giantone 03-08-2016 05:14 PM

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Giants re-sign JPP to a One year deal.

[url=http://www.bigblueinteractive.com/2016/03/08/giants-re-sign-de-jason-pierre-paul-latest-fa-rumors/]Giants Re-Sign DE Jason Pierre-Paul; Latest FA Rumors - Big Blue Interactive[/url]

Alvin Walton 03-08-2016 06:24 PM

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[quote=Giantone;1140309]Giants re-sign JPP to a One year deal.

[url=http://www.bigblueinteractive.com/2016/03/08/giants-re-sign-de-jason-pierre-paul-latest-fa-rumors/]Giants Re-Sign DE Jason Pierre-Paul; Latest FA Rumors - Big Blue Interactive[/url][/quote]

[img]http://i.imgur.com/f78Yf6w.gif[/img]

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-08-2016 07:51 PM

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The Jags are better than some give credit for, did they overpay for Malik Jackson? Probably so, but they have a lot of young talent on that team.

QB Black Bortles
WR Allen Robinson
WR Allen Hurns
RB TJ Yeldon
TE Julius Thomas
DE Malik Jackson
LB Dante Fowler Jr. (coming off injury)
5th overall pick, probably gonna go defense so they have talent

Schneed10 03-08-2016 08:10 PM

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Black Bortles, hahahahahahahaha!

DYoungJelly 03-08-2016 08:13 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1140321]Black Bortles, hahahahahahahaha![/quote]

Amerson's mom at PFF ranked him as one of the most improved players.

Show some respect!

Meks 03-08-2016 09:26 PM

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Obviously jags over paid, but, i agree with the previous post in regards to them being a young, talented team on the brink of winning more games than previous years no doubt.

SFREDSKIN 03-08-2016 09:57 PM

Re: NFL Free Agency 2016
 
Raiders will sign Osemele from Balt. And Bruce Irvin from Seattle.

skinsfaninok 03-08-2016 10:02 PM

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Oakland is coming up fast. Sounds like rams want griff

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SFREDSKIN 03-08-2016 10:24 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1140327]Oakland is coming up fast. Sounds like rams want griff[/quote]

Fisher will ruin what's left of his career.

Irrefutable 03-09-2016 07:10 AM

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Janoris Jenkins to the Giants

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-09-2016 08:03 AM

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Chris Ivory to the Jags

metalskins 03-09-2016 08:37 AM

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Totally stupid question, but how is it that all of these guys are getting signed or agreeing to contracts with other teams before the start of free agency?

Alvin Walton 03-09-2016 08:43 AM

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[quote=metalskins;1140340]Totally stupid question, but how is it that all of these guys are getting signed or agreeing to contracts with other teams before the start of free agency?[/quote]

They are not signed.
But you can negotiate earlier now that the tampering rules are relaxed.
So the deal gets "locked in" earlier than we are used to.
Most of those will sign at 4:00 today.

metalskins 03-09-2016 08:55 AM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1140341]They are not signed.
But you can negotiate earlier now that the tampering rules are relaxed.
So the deal gets "locked in" earlier than we are used to.
Most of those will sign at 4:00 today.[/quote]

OK, that makes sense. I didn't realize they had relaxed the tampering rules. Kind of takes the "excitement" out of free agency.

Chico23231 03-09-2016 09:08 AM

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ESPN's Ed Werder reports the trade sending CB Byron Maxwell and WLB Kiko Alonso to the Dolphins is "considered dead."

The two teams also would be swapping first-round picks in the deal with the Eagles getting the Dolphins' No. 8 overall pick and Miami moving back to No. 13. It was pure highway robbery by Eagles GM Howie Roseman just to get Dolphins czar [B]Mike Tannenbaum[/B] to take the contracts of Maxwell and Alonso, let alone moving up in the first round. It appears after a couple days of thought that Tannenbaum is possibly smartening up and getting out of this one. The reason the deal is on life support is allegedly the Dolphins' concern with Maxwell's shoulder.



You know I've been thinking lately " WTF is Miami doing? They seem completely brainless" And now in the bold, everything makes sense. That guy is a complete clown

Chico23231 03-09-2016 09:17 AM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1140338]Chris Ivory to the Jags[/quote]

DUDE...They just drafted TJ Yeldon????? WTF are the Jags doing?


Ian Rapport is saying they are giving Ivory 6 million per!!!


lololololololololololololololololololol

:laughing2

oh man, Im so glad we aren't dumb anymore

TheMalcolmConnection 03-09-2016 09:20 AM

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The Dolphins and Jags SO remind me of us a few years back. INSANITY.

Meks 03-09-2016 09:23 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1140348]DUDE...They just drafted TJ Yeldon????? WTF are the Jags doing?


Ian Rapport is saying they are giving Ivory 6 million per!!!


lololololololololololololololololololol

:laughing2

oh man, Im so glad we aren't dumb anymore[/quote]

Becuz its hardly a one back league anymore not to mention ivory is a good change of pace to yeldon... may have overpaid a bit but smart solid move.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-09-2016 09:24 AM

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Yeldon was one of those guys who could handle the load though. It's like just because you have the cap space, doesn't mean you should be stupid with it. Dunno.

Just think you could get your change-of-pace guy in the draft and pay a fraction of that.

Chico23231 03-09-2016 09:26 AM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1140336]Janoris Jenkins to the Giants[/quote]


ESPN's Dan Graziano reports the Giants "plan to make a run" at transition tagged DE Olivier Vernon.

Despite re-signing Jason Pierre-Paul and reportedly coming to terms with free agent CB Janoris Jenkins, the Giants still have a lot of work to do on defense. Adding an ascending pass rusher like Vernon would be a fantastic next step. The Dolphins are expected to rescind Vernon's transition tag, meaning the Giants will not have to worry about Miami matching if they are able to work out a deal with the talented defensive end.



Looks like the Giants are going with the "win now" strategy...probably see the writing on the wall with Eli with the window closing.

Chico23231 03-09-2016 09:28 AM

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[quote=Meks;1140350]Becuz its hardly a one back league anymore not to mention ivory is a good change of pace to yeldon... may have overpaid a bit but smart solid move.[/quote]

You think Ivory will have the same success behind that line in Jaxville?

To me, the big red flag is a smart HC Bowles letting the guy walk. They didn't even make an offer to him.

Ruhskins 03-09-2016 09:44 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1140352]ESPN's Dan Graziano reports the Giants "plan to make a run" at transition tagged DE Olivier Vernon.

Despite re-signing Jason Pierre-Paul and reportedly coming to terms with free agent CB Janoris Jenkins, the Giants still have a lot of work to do on defense. Adding an ascending pass rusher like Vernon would be a fantastic next step. The Dolphins are expected to rescind Vernon's transition tag, meaning the Giants will not have to worry about Miami matching if they are able to work out a deal with the talented defensive end.

Looks like the Giants are going with the "win now" strategy...probably see the writing on the wall with Eli with the window closing.[/quote]

I'm not surprised that they are in a win-now mode. I think if they have another supbar season, they are going to take a lot of heat from the media/fans since they pretty much went out of their way to blame everything on Coughlin.

mooby 03-09-2016 09:53 AM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1140349]The Dolphins and Jags SO remind me of us a few years back. INSANITY.[/quote]

I love that our biggest move is resigning our back up qb. I'll have 2 helpings of what McC is serving.

Also I think the teams with the most cap room are overspending like crazy because they know they have to reach the cap floor this year.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-09-2016 09:54 AM

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[quote=mooby;1140355]I love that our biggest move is resigning our back up qb. I'll have 2 helpings of what McC is serving.[/quote]

It also feels so different from when Bruce Allen was like, "We're taking care of our own." the year we won the division with RG3. We weren't THAT talented of a team...

TheMalcolmConnection 03-09-2016 09:55 AM

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I also keep wondering if while we reload via the draft, we'll keep signing the Terrence Knightons and (maybe) Chris Longs just to have some kind of depth.

mooby 03-09-2016 09:55 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1140347]ESPN's Ed Werder reports the trade sending CB Byron Maxwell and WLB Kiko Alonso to the Dolphins is "considered dead."

The two teams also would be swapping first-round picks in the deal with the Eagles getting the Dolphins' No. 8 overall pick and Miami moving back to No. 13. It was pure highway robbery by Eagles GM Howie Roseman just to get Dolphins czar [B]Mike Tannenbaum[/B] to take the contracts of Maxwell and Alonso, let alone moving up in the first round. It appears after a couple days of thought that Tannenbaum is possibly smartening up and getting out of this one. The reason the deal is on life support is allegedly the Dolphins' concern with Maxwell's shoulder.



You know I've been thinking lately " WTF is Miami doing? They seem completely brainless" And now in the bold, everything makes sense. That guy is a complete clown[/quote]

I love it, mainly because I thought this trade was going to be great for the Eagles. They would've shed 2 big contracts, gotten something in return, and if the rumor of swapping first rounders was true they would have moved up to #8 from #13. But if the trade is dead we don't have to worry about any of that.

Ruhskins 03-09-2016 10:00 AM

Re: NFL Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=Chico23231;1140347]ESPN's Ed Werder reports the trade sending CB Byron Maxwell and WLB Kiko Alonso to the Dolphins is "considered dead."

The two teams also would be swapping first-round picks in the deal with the Eagles getting the Dolphins' No. 8 overall pick and Miami moving back to No. 13. It was pure highway robbery by Eagles GM Howie Roseman just to get Dolphins czar [B]Mike Tannenbaum[/B] to take the contracts of Maxwell and Alonso, let alone moving up in the first round. It appears after a couple days of thought that Tannenbaum is possibly smartening up and getting out of this one. The reason the deal is on life support is allegedly the Dolphins' concern with Maxwell's shoulder.

You know I've been thinking lately " WTF is Miami doing? They seem completely brainless" And now in the bold, everything makes sense. That guy is a complete clown[/quote]

I think not making the trade is a good thing for Miami. Alonzo is injury prone and Maxwell didn't live up to the hype in Philly.

It still baffles me that after the long history of free agency misfires and giving away picks by our team (which was well documented by the media); other teams don't learn from our mistakes.

Ruhskins 03-09-2016 10:04 AM

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Rolando McClain (LB) back with the Cowpukes on a 1-year deal. Marvin Jones (WR) expected to sign with Detroit.

Chico23231 03-09-2016 10:13 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1140359]I think not making the trade is a good thing for Miami. Alonzo is injury prone and Maxwell didn't live up to the hype in Philly.

It still baffles me that after the long history of free agency misfires and giving away picks by our team (which was well documented by the media); other teams don't learn from our mistakes.[/quote]

Its a very good thing...but still even to first agree in principle was a head scractcher for sure. They were going to give up a top 10 pick and move back with that deal....what!!!!

They gave Mario Williams 2 year deal with like 8-9 million per. That's cray to me.


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