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30gut 03-12-2016 06:57 PM

Draft Prospects "Watch" List and Draft Board
 
Who are the draft prospects on your watch list?

Who are the prospects on your draft board?

30gut 03-12-2016 07:20 PM

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My early draft board and later round target list:

Emmanuel Ogbah Edge rusher
Doctsun WR
Mackenzie Alexander CB
Sheldon Rankins DL
Corey Coleman WR
Kevin Dodd Edge Rusher
Artie Burns CB
Sterling Shephard WR
KJ Dillon CB
Josh Perry LB
Sheldon Day DL
Jihad Ward DL
Matt Ioannidis
CJ Procise
Joe Schobert LB
BJ Goodson LB
Nick Kwiatkowski LB
Joel Stave QB
Brandon Chubb LB
Steven Daniels LB
Brandon Allen QB

Guys whose measureables have me intrigued but need to watch more:
Jeremy Cash S
Tyvis Powell S
TJ Green S
Cyrus Jones CB
...Bunch of other DL (from AShawn Robinson--Chris Jones)

Irrefutable 03-12-2016 07:48 PM

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Ryan Kelly center
Sean Davis Safety

[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FS&draftyear=2016&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC]The Sports Xchange College Football/NFL Draft Scout Rankings, From Prep to Pro Coverage by the Sports Xchange[/url]

There are about 20 good DL

KI Skins Fan 03-14-2016 11:15 AM

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This thread looks like fun. I made a partial list of players I like for the Skins and included the round in which I would hope to draft them. The players are in no particular order, other than rounds.

[U]!st Round[/U]

Andrew Billings, NT Baylor
Ezekiel Elliott, RB OSU
Ryan Kelly, C Alabama
Sheldon Rankins, DL Louisville
Jarran Reed, DL Alabama
Darron Lee, ILB OSU
Reggie Ragland, ILB Alabama

[U]2nd Round[/U]

Derrick Henry, RB Alabama
Kenneth Dixon, RB LA Tech
Josh Doctson, WR TCU
Nick Martin, C Notre Dame
Emmanuel Ogbah, Edge OK State
Germain Ifedi, T/OG Texas A&M
Joshua Perry, ILB OSU
Karl Joseph, S WVU

[U]3rd Round[/U]

Sterling Shepard, WR OK
Will Fuller, WR Notre Dame
Vadal Alexander, OG LSU
Javon Hargrave, DT SC State
Miles Killebrew, SS Southern Somewhere
S'ua Cravens, SS/LB USC

[U]Round 4 or 5[/U]

CJ Procise, RB Notre Dame
Nick Vannett, TE OSU
Braxton Miller, WR OSU
Sheldon Day, DL Notre Dame
Daniel Lasco, RB Cal
Sebastian Tretola, OG AR
Landon Turner, OG UNC
Shilique Calhoun, Edge MI State
Charles Tapper, Edge USC
Hassan Ridgeway, DL Texas

[U]Round 6 or 7[/U]

Kevin Hogan, QB Stanford
Willie Henry, DL Michigan
Matt Ioannides, DL Temple
BJ Goodson, ILB Clemson
Kyler Fackrell, ILB Utah State

If this list makes it seems like I think this draft is deep, well, I do. In fact, I think it is an exceptionally deep draft. Players are bound to fall for no apparent reason and there should be good prospects to be had in every round. It's a good thing for us that we now have a real GM who can take full advantage of this year's draft bonanza.

Chico23231 03-14-2016 01:03 PM

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Chris Jones, DT, Mississippi State

Irrefutable 03-15-2016 12:27 PM

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The Ohio State problems

[url=http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php#ohiostate0315]WalterFootball.com: NFL Draft Rumor Mill[/url]

Chico23231 03-15-2016 12:41 PM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1140810]The Ohio State problems

[url=http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php#ohiostate0315]WalterFootball.com: NFL Draft Rumor Mill[/url][/quote]

These Urban Meyers programs...

Chico23231 03-15-2016 03:19 PM

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[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/03/15/draft-top-prospect-fits-for-every-defensive-tackle-position/[/url]

Pretty good article, nice list of prospects.

Billings, Chris Jones, Rankins, Reed, Nkemdiche (Second story superman), Buckner...any these guys for me

Chico23231 03-16-2016 11:41 AM

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I'd watch our interest in RB Keith Marshall from Georgia. Also Kendal Fuller CB from Va Tech.

Irrefutable 03-16-2016 12:04 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1140895]I'd watch our interest in RB Keith Marshall from Georgia. Also Kendal Fuller CB from Va Tech.[/quote]

Marshall is a big risk, very injury prone

[url=http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/530937/keith-marshall]Keith Marshall Stats - Georgia Bulldogs - ESPN[/url]

30gut 03-16-2016 09:18 PM

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[YT]KOpCIORp-gI[/YT]

UDFA/Late round sleeper ILB that I like (combine snub)

[COLOR="Blue"][B]His 4.5-second 40-yard dash, 4.1-second time in the 20-yard shuttle and three-cone drill time of 6.8 seconds would’ve tied for second-fastest at the NFL Combine last month. Chubb’s broad jump (10 feet, 1 inch) and vertical leap (34 inches) would’ve squarely put him in the middle of the pack, while his 23 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press would’ve been the third most.[/B][/COLOR]

[url=http://www.journalnow.com/27/hamilton-pro-day-hardly-make-or-break---/article_d3b00452-135f-589c-a998-ddc24950f417.html]Hamilton: Pro day hardly make or break -- but it can't hurt - Winston-Salem Journal: 27[/url]

30gut 03-17-2016 06:45 AM

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[url=http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/coleman-runs-a-437-40/vp-BBqyEuW]Coleman Runs a 4.37 40[/url]

Coleman said he’s now at about 90 percent healthy. He looked just fine Wednesday in posting a*4.37-second hand-held 40 time.

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30gut 03-21-2016 06:45 PM

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[url=http://bcove.me/zp7pqzyg]Video: Joel Stave At UW Pro Day[/url]

Joel Stave late round development QB

[url]https://twitter.com/nflnetwork/status/706849409796075520[/url]


Brandon Allen

skinsfaninok 03-21-2016 10:34 PM

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Cool story I met with the saints LB coach James Willis tonight he's here to have a workout with
A few ou players we talked for a while and I asked him who was the best offense slash coaching staff they played this yr.... his response the redskins he said
"Jay gruden is a genius and Jordan Reed and Kirk cousins will be great together for years"
Said Kirk is a smart qb that makes the right decision more times than not.

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30gut 03-23-2016 08:24 PM

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[url=http://www.thebackyardbanter.com/reception-perception-2016-nfl-draft-prospects-results.html]Reception Perception: 2016 NFL draft prospects results - Backyard Banter[/url]

Interesting stats here

That Guy 03-24-2016 09:02 AM

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yeah, those make a good case for doctson, shepard, treadwell, and higgins... possibly miller too.

Chico23231 03-24-2016 09:34 AM

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[quote=30gut;1141236][url=http://www.thebackyardbanter.com/reception-perception-2016-nfl-draft-prospects-results.html]Reception Perception: 2016 NFL draft prospects results - Backyard Banter[/url]

Interesting stats here[/quote]

Kinda kills the WR from Pittsburg.

Will Fuller and Michael Thomas (OSU) look to be 2nd tier types too.

30gut rank your top 10 WR for the draft please

30gut 03-24-2016 09:26 PM

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Below is the PFF draft profile for Boston College’s Steven Daniels, which incorporates PFF’s college grades and scouting intel from our team of analysts. To see all of PFF’s 2016 scouting reports,*click here.

Position fit:

Two-down, run-stopping inside or middle linebacker

Stats to know:

Top grade in the nation against the run (+29.2) in 2015 after ranking ninth in 2014 (+18.0).

What he does best:

• Pure thumper; destroys blocks working downhill in the running game.

• Excellent play recognition in the run game—reads pulling guards instantly and gets to the right spot.

• Didn’t test well athletically, but short area quickness on the football field looks good.

• Rarely fooled by counter-action. Even when teams try to disguise with motion and fakes, Daniels still beats blockers to the spot against counter.

• Makes up for his lack of speed by taking good angles to the ball when running sideline to sideline.

• Will never be confused with a coverage linebacker, but made a few strong plays while isolated in the flat.

• Reads and attacks the screen game well.

• Can bull-rush as a pass-rusher and also uses his hands well to shed blocks. Had some success against college offensive tackles when rushing the passer.

Biggest concern:

• Got caught on blocks on cutbacks against inside zone. If he has to “slow-play,” can get engulfed by blocks.

• Lacks the athleticism to be trusted in man-to-man coverage against running backs and tight ends.

• Many of his strengths looked like weaknesses against Syracuse. Just a bad game?

Player comparison:

Brandon Spikes.*Spikes was a throwback to old-school football, a two-down “thumper” that would destroy any blockers in his path while setting up his teammates to clean up with tackles. Spikes was also a limited athlete and rarely on the field in passing situations, and Daniels looks like a similar player from both a style and production standpoint.

Bottom line:

Daniels is simply playing in the wrong era, as his tough, downhill style would have been coveted in the old run-heavy days of the NFL, but his style of linebacker is becoming less valuable in the spread-offense era. Still, there’s value in a strong interior presence against the run, and Daniels would fit in well with any team looking to improve their early-down run defense.




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30gut 03-24-2016 09:32 PM

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Below is the PFF draft profile for West Virginia’s Nick Kwiatkoski, which incorporates PFF’s college grades and scouting intel from our team of analysts. To see all of PFF’s 2016 scouting reports,*click here.

Position fit:

Best fit is inside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme or strong linebacker in certain 4-3 schemes.

Stats to know:

Finished fourth in the nation amongst linebackers against the run (+21.7 run defense grade) and sixth in coverage (+9.0 coverage grade).

What he does best:

• Strong “flipper” when attacking blocks in the run game. Packs a punch working downhill against blockers.

• Uses same style to push the pocket as a blitzer.

• Had success when playing head-up on tight ends in the run game, set a strong edge.

• Makes lead blockers play when taking them on.

• Does a nice job of sifting through the trash to find the ball carrier when left unblocked.

• Graded well on both the front and back side of running plays.

Biggest concern:

• While he’s good at attacking blockers, he struggles to shed if he doesn’t win on initial contact.

• Will lose sight of the ball at times in the run game.

• Can get caught attacking the run with the wrong shoulder.

• Had a few bad missed tackles in space.

• Can be slow to react in coverage, gets sucked in by play-action.

• Lacks depth in zones at times and lacks the recovery speed to make up for it.

• Isn’t great in man-coverage against tight ends*

Bottom line:

There’s nothing exceptional about Kwiatkoski’s game, but he’s productive in all phases. He can be a disruptor in the run game while making the routine plays in coverage. He may be limited to early downs, and he could be a useful “thumper” in a 3-4 scheme, taking on blocks and setting up his teammates to make plays



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30gut 03-25-2016 05:57 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1141249]Kinda kills the WR from Pittsburg.

Will Fuller and Michael Thomas (OSU) look to be 2nd tier types too.

30gut rank your top 10 WR for the draft please[/quote]Haven't gone all the way to 10 on WRs yet.

Here are my top 5s tho:

[quote=30gut;1141160][url]http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-central/63611-2016-cbs-nfldraftscout-big-board-4.html#post1141043[/url]

Here's my position rankings:

QB-Paxton Lynch, Jared Goff, Conor Cook, Carson Wentz, Brandon Allen

WR-Josh Doctsun, Corey Coleman, Sterling Shephard, Tyler Boyd, Laquan Treadwell

CB-Jalen Ramsey, Mackenzie Alexander, Vernon Hargreaves, Willism Jackson, Kendall Fuller ? (40), Eli Apple

S-Jalen Ramsey, KJ Dillon, Karl Joseph (40 ?), TJ Green, Sean Davis, Darian Thompson (40 ?)

Edge-Emmanuel Ogbah, Shaq Lawson, Joey Bosa, Leonard Floyd, Shilique Calhoun

LB-Miles Jack, Darron Lee, Reggie Ragland, Kamalei Correa, Josh Perry, Joe Schobert, BJ Goodson[/quote]

If you have top 5s, would be interested to see them.

30gut 03-29-2016 12:27 PM

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[quote=30gut;1141236][url=http://www.thebackyardbanter.com/reception-perception-2016-nfl-draft-prospects-results.html]Reception Perception: 2016 NFL draft prospects results - Backyard Banter[/url]

Interesting stats here[/quote]Another bit of interesting WR evaluation:

[url=http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2016/playmaker-score-2016]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | Playmaker Score 2016[/url]

30gut 04-03-2016 04:39 PM

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000649377/article/boykin-shows-off-arm-doctson-is-outstanding-at-tcus-pro-day]Boykin shows off arm, Doctson is outstanding at TCU's pro day - NFL.com[/url]

Quarterback Trevone Boykin -- 6-foot-0 1/8, 213 pounds -- completed 35 of 38 passes at the pro day. He also ran eight pass routes as a receiver and looked pretty good doing that, too. Boykin has a strong arm, but a negative to that is he doesn't quite know how to take something off the ball.

Chico23231 04-12-2016 11:48 AM

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[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2629584-scot-mccloughan-qa-the-philosophy-and-tools-of-a-successful-nfl-gm]Scot McCloughan Q&A: The Philosophy and Tools of a Successful NFL GM | Bleacher Report[/url]

good McC interview here by bleacher report and Jason Cole.

My favorite part:

B/R: But you can’t miss in the first round.

SM: You can’t, and you shouldn’t if you do enough work. Everybody said Brandon Scherff was taken too high. He’s a guard now, and he’s the fifth pick in the draft. I said, "Are you kidding me?" He played every snap in the season but one. The only reason he missed one is because his shoe fell off, and to this day, he yells at me about it. That’s the only snap he missed all year. He would have played the whole season, every snap. He’s not the most flashy guy, he’s not the prettiest guy, but he’s a football player, and that’s what I’m talking about with a red. Now, he might be a blue in two years, three years. Who knows? But right now, he’s a red. He’s a core guy, and, all of sudden, guys walk in next year and see him, they’ll be like, "OK, that’s how we act. That’s how we lift weights. That’s how we condition. That’s how we go to meetings. That’s how we practice." Guys walk in, and they’re scared of him. Trent Williams is scared of him, and he’s a Pro Bowler. Trent said, "I don’t want to mess with that guy." And [Scherff] is a rookie, but that’s what starts building a culture. He’s a red. You wait and see who we take at 21 in the draft this year. He’s a red.



B/R: You already know who it’s going to be.

SM: (smiling) Yeah, I think. Hopefully he’s not gone. But I’m adding the same kind of guy. Toughness, smarts, competitiveness, team. The whole thing.

Bangee7 04-12-2016 08:29 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1141722][url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2629584-scot-mccloughan-qa-the-philosophy-and-tools-of-a-successful-nfl-gm]Scot McCloughan Q&A: The Philosophy and Tools of a Successful NFL GM | Bleacher Report[/url]

good McC interview here by bleacher report and Jason Cole.

My favorite part:

B/R: But you can’t miss in the first round.

SM: You can’t, and you shouldn’t if you do enough work. Everybody said Brandon Scherff was taken too high. He’s a guard now, and he’s the fifth pick in the draft. I said, "Are you kidding me?" He played every snap in the season but one. The only reason he missed one is because his shoe fell off, and to this day, he yells at me about it. That’s the only snap he missed all year. He would have played the whole season, every snap. He’s not the most flashy guy, he’s not the prettiest guy, but he’s a football player, and that’s what I’m talking about with a red. Now, he might be a blue in two years, three years. Who knows? But right now, he’s a red. He’s a core guy, and, all of sudden, guys walk in next year and see him, they’ll be like, "OK, that’s how we act. That’s how we lift weights. That’s how we condition. That’s how we go to meetings. That’s how we practice." Guys walk in, and they’re scared of him. Trent Williams is scared of him, and he’s a Pro Bowler. Trent said, "I don’t want to mess with that guy." And [Scherff] is a rookie, but that’s what starts building a culture. He’s a red. You wait and see who we take at 21 in the draft this year. He’s a red.



B/R: You already know who it’s going to be.

SM: (smiling) Yeah, I think. Hopefully he’s not gone. But I’m adding the same kind of guy. Toughness, smarts, competitiveness, team. The whole thing.[/quote]

great article. I like the fact that he's locked on to a target.

Ohioskins 04-13-2016 08:41 PM

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So does anyone have a guess as to who this "tough, smart, competitive" guy is?

30gut 04-13-2016 10:09 PM

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Taylor Decker
Reggie Ragland
Corey Coleman
Mackenzie Alexander
Andrew Billings
Jarran Reed
Emmanuel Ogbah


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