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Interesting... I don't agree, we lost twice to Dallas as painful as it sounds.

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I agree with Bart, Skins are the best team in the East. Redskins beat themselves twice against the Cowboys

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If we played them Sunday on a neutral field we would win. Comfortably.

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Maybe we'd win, if we played on a neutral field on Mars, with no crowd noise and blind refs with seeing eye dogs.

Honestly there's no point in talking about scenarios where we'd win. We lost to them twice, thats just facts. They were the better team both days. If we get lucky we might have the opportunity to see them a third time this year and get some revenge.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1157363]I agree with Bart, Skins are the best team in the East. Redskins beat themselves twice against the Cowboys[/quote]

Don't let your homerism get in the way of common sense. The Cowboys are 10-1, having won ten straight games. The way to prove who is the better team is on the field where they have beaten us [U]twice[/U]. They [U]are[/U] the best team in our division.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1157369]Maybe we'd win, if we played on a neutral field on Mars, with no crowd noise and blind refs with seeing eye dogs.



Honestly there's no point in talking about scenarios where we'd win. We lost to them twice, thats just facts. They were the better team both days. If we get lucky we might have the opportunity to see them a third time this year and get some revenge.[/QUOTE]



So a short week with travel time after a night game is minor details?

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1157370]Don't let your homerism get in the way of common sense. The Cowboys are 10-1, having won ten straight games. The way to prove who is the better team is on the field where they have beaten us [U]twice[/U]. They [U]are[/U] the best team in our division.[/QUOTE]



So Dallas is better for sure. You think if we play them fully rested in the playoffs again we got no chance? We were two missed fg's from beating them after getting screwed by the schedule. I do not think it is homerism, I think it is reading between the lines.

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The truth is, the short turnaround most definitely played a factor in the game. You're talking about a team that played in a late Sunday night game - which ended around midnight, and then had to turn around and fly out to Dallas on Wednesday. They usually don't practice on Monday, especially after a late night win, so you're looking at Tuesday being the only day they had for walk-throughs. No time to game plan, no time to heal up from the previous game. It most definitely affected the Redskins.

The NFL dropped the ball on this one. But anyway, what's done is done.

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I hate to say it but Dallas is the better team because they don't defeat themselves. We have the higher ceiling but in every loss this year except against the steelers we have shot ourselves in the foot. Watching Dallas they aren't doing that at all.

Hopefully we stop the self inflicted losses.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1157388]I hate to say it but Dallas is the better team because they don't defeat themselves. We have the higher ceiling but in every loss this year except against the steelers we have shot ourselves in the foot. Watching Dallas they aren't doing that at all.

Hopefully we stop the self inflicted losses.

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We only lost 3 other games. we clearly weren't the same team first couple of weeks we are now. We lost to Detroit in Detroit who is a good team. We got screwed by the schedule makers against Dallas the second time. Imo we only have one self inflicted loss. Week 2.

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[quote=metalskins;1157387]The truth is, the short turnaround most definitely played a factor in the game. You're talking about a team that played in a late Sunday night game - which ended around midnight, and then had to turn around and fly out to Dallas on Wednesday. They usually don't practice on Monday, especially after a late night win, so you're looking at Tuesday being the only day they had for walk-throughs. No time to game plan, no time to heal up from the previous game. It most definitely affected the Redskins.

The NFL dropped the ball on this one. But anyway, what's done is done.[/quote]

Yeah, Gruden said they tried to install some Dallas game plan during the bye .. 3 weeks before the Dallas game and before we played the Vikings and Packers.

While I hated the short turn around, Dallas beat us twice and without our defense showing me that they are capable of stopping the Dallas offense, Dallas is the better team. Dallas scoring drives last game were long consecutive drives.

Go Boys tonight though! Really need a vikings loss.

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[quote=punch it in;1157390]We only lost 3 other games. we clearly weren't the same team first couple of weeks we are now. We lost to Detroit in Detroit who is a good team. We got screwed by the schedule makers against Dallas the second time. Imo we only have one self inflicted loss. Week 2.[/quote]

I was including the Cinci tie in the self inflicted category, as both losses to Dallas were (I consider our red zone woes in the second game to be self inflicted not anything Dallas did on defense). There is no doubt in my mind that if we play to our ceiling we beat Dallas every time, but we have only played one game, the Packers, to our ceiling. Dallas is currently playing every game to my concept of their ceiling. If we get everything rolling, like we can, then when we face Dallas again, we will be the better team.

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I was being a stickler about Cincy. Lol. Most teams rarely play to their ceiling. Dallas has plenty of close wins. They are not rolling people. Not sure why you consider our close wins different than theirs in the way of playing to your full potential? Other than that u watch our games and not theirs.

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Fuck Reed is out.

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Atleast i can start Vernon in the WP fantasy league. [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]

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[quote=punch it in;1157393]I was being a stickler about Cincy. Lol. Most teams rarely play to their ceiling. Dallas has plenty of close wins. They are not rolling people. Not sure why you consider our close wins different than theirs in the way of playing to your full potential? Other than that u watch our games and not theirs.[/quote]

d*** you are about to make me defend dallas :puke:
I don't watch their games close, but I have watched some this year hoping to see them fall apart or make mistakes, but they haven't. 3 examples where they rolled and we didn't
they beat cinci by 14 (and never looked close), we tied (absolutely self inflicted)
they beat cleveland by 25, we won by 11 and needed a few bounces in the second half
they beat Pitt, we looked like amateurs against Pitt.

NOW with that said, we did beat up Philly and they had to go to OT, and they still play the Vikings and Detroit and could lose to both, so I'm NOT saying they are a great team, just that they haven't created self inflicted losses (tie) like we have.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1157370]Don't let your homerism get in the way of common sense. The Cowboys are 10-1, having won ten straight games. The way to prove who is the better team is on the field where they have beaten us [U]twice[/U]. They [U]are[/U] the best team in our division.[/quote]

I can't help but think of the 2007 season when Cowboys swept the Giants in the regular season on the way to a 13-3 finish and the top seed in the NFC. Giants came to Texas stadium in the Divisionals and beat the heavily favored Cowboys.

I can see that happening again if Dallas has to host Washington. In my opinion, as much as it pains me to say, Skins are the most dangerous team in the NFL right now.

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[quote=over the mountain;1157391]Yeah, Gruden said they tried to install some Dallas game plan during the bye .. 3 weeks before the Dallas game and before we played the Vikings and Packers.

While I hated the short turn around, Dallas beat us twice and without our defense showing me that they are capable of stopping the Dallas offense, Dallas is the better team. Dallas scoring drives last game were long consecutive drives.

Go Boys tonight though! Really need a vikings loss.[/quote]

Dallas will probably lose to the vikings and detroit just to f*** with us. Ok, they won't do it with that in mind, but they will probably lose anyway and take joy in screwing us up.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1157400]d*** you are about to make me defend dallas :puke:

I don't watch their games close, but I have watched some this year hoping to see them fall apart or make mistakes, but they haven't. 3 examples where they rolled and we didn't

they beat cinci by 14 (and never looked close), we tied (absolutely self inflicted)

they beat cleveland by 25, we won by 11 and needed a few bounces in the second half

they beat Pitt, we looked like amateurs against Pitt.



NOW with that said, we did beat up Philly and they had to go to OT, and they still play the Vikings and Detroit and could lose to both, so I'm NOT saying they are a great team, just that they haven't created self inflicted losses (tie) like we have.[/QUOTE]



And we beat the Giants and they lost to them. And we beat Greenbay much worse than they did.

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At least its a good TNF matchup.

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;1157401]I can't help but think of the 2007 season when Cowboys swept the Giants in the regular season on the way to a 13-3 finish and the top seed in the NFC. Giants came to Texas stadium in the Divisionals and beat the heavily favored Cowboys.



I can see that happening again if Dallas has to host Washington. In my opinion, as much as it pains me to say, Skins are the most dangerous team in the NFL right now.[/QUOTE]



We have the most dangerous offense for sure

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[quote=punch it in;1157386]So Dallas is better for sure. You think if we play them fully rested in the playoffs again we got no chance? We were two missed fg's from beating them after getting screwed by the schedule. I do not think it is homerism, I think it is reading between the lines.[/quote]

You should try reading on the lines first. On the lines, it's Dallas 2 wins and Redskins 0 wins head-to-head. They also have 4 more wins than we do on the record. I believe that you are what your record says you are. So, at this point they are better than we are, IMO. If we should play them in the playoffs and beat them, then I would say that we're better than they are.

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[quote=over the mountain;1157404]At least its a good TNF matchup.[/quote]

Should be a good game, the problem is we have to root for Dallas. :doh: Minnesota's schedule after Dallas is at Jax, vs Indy, at GB, vs Bears. Not that tough, they could easily finish with 10 wins

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[quote=punch it in;1157403]And we beat the Giants and they lost to them. And we beat Greenbay much worse than they did.[/quote]

They beat them in Green Bay.

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[quote=punch it in;1157384]So a short week with travel time after a night game is minor details?[/quote]

Sure that's a disadvantage for us, but we might be talking about a different game if our defense gets one stop at the end. They didn't, because our defense is our weak link, and they exploited it. That's what good teams do. I hate to say it because I have had to put up with a ton of shit-talking from my coworkers and friends that are Cowboys fans, but they are the better team. They didn't make mistakes, and they won. Give credit where it's due.

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[quote=SirLK26;1157414]Should be a good game, the problem is we have to root for Dallas. :doh: Minnesota's schedule after Dallas is at Jax, vs Indy, at GB, vs Bears. Not that tough, they could easily finish with 10 wins[/quote]

Yep.I hate rooting for Dallas,but we want them to win tonight and next week against the giants,I havent looked ahead after that.But I have a bad feeling Dallas will fark us and lose tonight and next week

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[quote=over the mountain;1157404]At least its a good TNF matchup.[/quote]

Not really, MIN is horrible right now esp on offense. Dallas wins by 7

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1157424]Not really, MIN is horrible right now esp on offense. Dallas wins by 7[/quote]

And Minnys head coach will not be there.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000749226/article/zimmer-to-miss-tnf-after-emergency-eye-surgery]Zimmer to miss 'TNF' after emergency eye surgery - NFL.com[/url]

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I hate that I will be pissed if Dallas loses

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Fuck Dallas, I hope they lose out and we win out. If we take care of our own business we'll be fine.

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Yeah fuck Dallas. Minnesotas offense is putrid.

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[quote=punch it in;1157470]Yeah fuck Dallas. Minnesotas offense is putrid.[/quote]

They are missing their starting tackles and the backups suck!! Their punter sucks, wouldn't surprise me if they have a new one next week.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1157471]They are missing their starting tackles and the backups suck!! Their punter sucks, wouldn't surprise me if they have a new one next week.[/QUOTE]



There quarterback sucks too.

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Dig deep here Minny. Tie this bitch up.

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Bradford blows

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Punch this was Dallas playing bad. We can certainly beat them if we don't shoot ourselves

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1157476]Punch this was Dallas playing bad. We can certainly beat them if we don't shoot ourselves

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Of course we can....we almost beat them when we did shoot ourselves

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Dink and Dak got bailed out again tonight. His luck will run out in January

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I'm glad Dallas won because Minnesota is basically done now. One less team to worry about. Although we are fine

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To sum up that game.....
Dallas can eat the cheese outta my butt crack.
But the Plowboys did us a favor by improving our wild card chances.