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Game balls: Offense, minus 1 play where I'm partially blaming Kirk and partially blaming D-Jax for taking it easy on the route, for doing their job and keeping us in it.
RK: Clutch AF strip sack at the end, had several hurries other times. Did enough to get the W.
WR corps: Everybody ballin' in their own ways, Crowder with the tough catch down the field, D.Jax with the huge play, Garcon with the clutch catch on 4th down.

Negative balls: Deshazor Everett, man that int the end zone is worthy of a game ball but that blatantly stupid hit on Sproles was an ejection worthy offense, they had every right to be mad about that.
Defense minus last play: Still shitty, still need a large infusion of talent. Whether or not Barry gets fired is irrelevant to me, if they give him a lot of new guys and he's still shitty next year then I'd fire him.
Dustin Hopkins: Man you were auto under 50 last year, best kicker we've had in years. This year you remind me of our previous 19 kickers. Get your shit together, it's all mental at this point.

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No link, but if that report during the game of a torn bicep for Sua Cravens is true that's a huge injury, at this point he'd probably be done for the year if true. Sucks for the kid because we sure could've used him for the stretch run, but hopefully he'll be back next year ready to go.

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[quote=mooby;1158607]Game balls: Offense, minus 1 play where I'm partially blaming Kirk and partially blaming D-Jax for taking it easy on the route, for doing their job and keeping us in it.
RK: Clutch AF strip sack at the end, had several hurries other times. Did enough to get the W.
WR corps: Everybody ballin' in their own ways, Crowder with the tough catch down the field, D.Jax with the huge play, Garcon with the clutch catch on 4th down.

Negative balls: Deshazor Everett, man that int the end zone is worthy of a game ball but that blatantly stupid hit on Sproles was an ejection worthy offense, they had every right to be mad about that.
Defense minus last play: Still shitty, still need a large infusion of talent. Whether or not Barry gets fired is irrelevant to me, if they give him a lot of new guys and he's still shitty next year then I'd fire him.
Dustin Hopkins: Man you were auto under 50 last year, best kicker we've had in years. This year you remind me of our previous 19 kickers. Get your shit together, it's all mental at this point.[/quote]

Agreed except I though D did a pretty good job in the second half. They only allowed 15 points and one TD. Gave up only 3 points in the second half!

I'm okay with Everett. That hit was dirty and eagles players and fans were right to be mad, that was stupid, I was relieved when Sproles got up. But I like the spirit from a young player, he'll learn to play smarter. This defense needs hungry fired up players!!! And the previous hit on Celek wasn't a blindside block...


Positives (some of):

-Running Game
-Josh Norman
-Fat Rob and CT
-Foster, RK, Murphy
-2nd half D

Negatives (some of):

-1st half D
-Hopkins
-Breeland
-Safeties

LOVE THIS TEAM WIN !!! HTTR !

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Still IN What?? you cannot be serious about this team doing anything other than breaking our hearts..that was a horrible Defense performance..the eagles left 20+ points on the field.Other than Norman the rest of our Db's are at best second string . I admire your dedication to the team..but the redskins are not going anywhere this year. they have the WORST D in the entire league !! Somebody correct me if I am wrong...

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Barry should perhaps get one more year with an infusion of talent and not the seemingly stop gap guys that we have in there now. If the D is still garbage after 8 games next year, then you can Barry.

We should absolutely be working out FA kickers at this point, in no way should Hopkins' job be guaranteed for next year. I was hard on Hopkins after the London games and you guys were like "no, he's money, he just had a bad day", and he has consistently blown kicks since then. And they aren't long ones either, very makeable kicks that he's blown that other kickers around the league can make with no problem...

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Bought a $20 cold/hot Redskins mug/cup yesterday. Was drinking when I purchased it. That's a little steep, but the post game beer after a win taste really good in it.

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[quote=rocnrik;1158613]Still IN What?? you cannot be serious about this team doing anything other than breaking our hearts..that was a horrible Defense performance..the eagles left 20+ points on the field.Other than Norman the rest of our Db's are at best second string . I admire your dedication to the team..but the redskins are not going anywhere this year. they have the WORST D in the entire league !! Somebody correct me if I am wrong...[/quote]

They didn't leave 20+ points on the field. They could have had one TD were the receiver (I think Matthews) could have brought his second foot down. But that's not like it was an easy TD. Then there is the punt returned for a TD, brought back by a block in the back, at the point of attack, that was a legit flag, might not be a TD without the block in the back. And they missed a fieldgoal, but so did we...

D was horrible in the first half, but really decent in the second half!

I totally agree that Norman is our only good defensive back though. Secondary and DL has to be absolute priorities for next year.

Everett might turn out to be a nice addition though.

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That Desean Jackson catch over the shoulder is out of this world difficult. I can't tell you how hard it is to track a ball like that and come across and make the snag while being tackled. One of the better catches I've seen all year.

Shows you he has more talent than just speed. Just mind blowing.

Let's hope Tampa loses and we can string a few together.

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Anytime you win on the road inside the division you have to be happy about that. I knew the Eagles were going to come out and play hard.

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Bottom line is our offense is poised to do big things for years to come. We have a great gm, and he will fix the defense. In the mean time we are staring down the barrel of a second straight post season birth during a rebuild. Based on what this team was the when Gruden got involved it is certainly a rebuild. People need to chill the eff out and be celebrating what is going down.

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On the Sproles hit...it was hard, but I wouldn't call it dirty.

Remember, Everett was running full speed & Sproles came lunging forward & Sproles knee was just an inch off the ground (meaning he was crouching).

So, I know Everette took his head off, but it wasn't like he went flying at him purposely.

Sproles was continuing to get lower & Everett didn't have a lot of time to re-calibrate.
It's not like Sproles is a tall guy to begin with either.

To me, it was just a hard football play that deserved to be called a penalty, but I don't think it was "dirty".

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I thought we were really bad today in a lot of areas. Thank god the eagles are terrible because we probably lose to 2/3rds of the other teams in the league. Doug Peterson is a rookie coach and it shows.

I thought our dline play today was atrocious against a very average Oline. We are extremely soft up the middle and it seems to be getting worse. We will see how it goes next week. Shame about Cravens...our first 2 draft picks seem to be pretty injury prone.

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[QUOTE=Bangee7;1158628]On the Sproles hit...it was hard, but I wouldn't call it dirty.



Remember, Everett was running full speed & Sproles came lunging forward & Sproles knee was just an inch off the ground (meaning he was crouching).



So, I know Everette took his head off, but it wasn't like he went flying at him purposely.



Sproles was continuing to get lower & Everett didn't have a lot of time to re-calibrate.

It's not like Sproles is a tall guy to begin with either.



To me, it was just a hard football play that deserved to be called a penalty, but I don't think it was "dirty".[/QUOTE]



I agree Sproles went low, but he beat the ball to Sproles in a big way. A punt returner looking up in the air is about as defenseless as it gets. You absolutely have to slow up once you realize the ball is not in his hands, and he did not even try. I know it is bang bang but you normally do not see that because guys realize that they have not fielded the punt a good 3 or 4 steps away. Everette never even thought about letting up.

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Yeah terrible play by Everette. He has to know that he has to let the returner catch the ball. He didn't even attempt it. Never let up, just went for the kill shot. He's going to be getting fined as well he should.

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[quote=punch it in;1158630]I agree Sproles went low, but he beat the ball to Sproles in a big way. A punt returner looking up in the air is about as defenseless as it gets. You absolutely have to slow up once you realize the ball is not in his hands, and he did not even try. I know it is bang bang but you normally do not see that because guys realize that they have not fielded the punt a good 3 or 4 steps away. Everette never even thought about letting up.[/quote]

I don't agree. It's just as much the returnees responsibility to protect himself by calling fair catch.

Brian Mitchell and Crowder both said the same thing. They have pretty good resume as returners.

Mitchell said if you are running UP to catch a punt, you have to protect yourself. He said if this would of been a routine punt with hang time, then he would shoulder more blame on Everett, but Everett was just playing football and did what he's supposed to.

He also said you are not totally defenseless as a returner because the league gives you a get out of jail free card with fair catching.

Bottom Line. It was a penalty by the book, but Sproles running up to field the punt in traffic and kneeling to receive it. He should of called fair catch.

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One guy that hasn't been mentioned is Arie Kouandjio, I want to see him stay as the starter at LG moving forward.

Breeland had a bad 1st half, but I thought he redeemed himself in the second half with a sack and forced fumble.

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Redskins LB Su'a Cravens said he will have an MRI to determine the severity of his biceps injury. He said he wasn't yet sure if it was torn. He said he was in pain.

Redskins linebacker Will Compton said doctors told him his major ligaments are OK. He said he'll undergo an MRI Monday. He said it might be a torn PCL.

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Just win baby!
That was ugly today.
Our Redskins are really missing too many pieces to do anything this year. That was hard to watch today.
I will say at the risk of pissing off some, when we started the season with Kedric Golden as our #1 NT, I knew our FO was not serious about winning this year.
Our FO basically decided this is a re-building year to be written off. There was zero real attempt to upgrade the DL in Free Agency with a difference maker, that initially pissed me off.
Then drafting a WR high when we are loaded at WR.?.?.?
That pissed me off again.
I like our GM and nobody is perfect. But he has to start to re-build the defense or we will continue to flounder fighting to beat terrible teams like today. The Eagles are decimated at O-line and they nearly beat us. We are not very good.

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I know Reed is playing hurt but our TE's caught only 2 passes today.

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[quote=Defensewins;1158637]Just win baby!
That was ugly today.
Our Redskins are really missing too many pieces to do anything this year. That was hard to watch today.
I will say at the risk of pissing off some, when we started the season with Kedric Golden as our #1 NT, I knew our FO was not serious about winning this year.
Our FO basically decided this is a re-building year to be written off. There was zero real attempt to upgrade the DL in Free Agency with a difference maker, that initially pissed me off.
Then drafting a WR high when we are loaded at WR.?.?.?
That pissed me off again.
I like our GM and nobody is perfect. But he has to start to re-build the defense or we will continue to flounder fighting to beat terrible teams like today. The Eagles are decimated at O-line and they nearly beat us. We are not very good.[/quote]

Watching the eagles pound the middle on 3rd and short...4th and short with a qb sneak with ease is about as frustrating as it gets as a fan. We need 2 new starters on the dline.

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How did I forget Baushad Breeland? He still played like ass today, admitted he was better in the second half but not by much. No way I'd rely on him next year. He played like ass for 8 consecutive quarters, there's no way I let him off the hook for the 2nd half. Did anyone notice how Dunbar was getting picked on in the second half too? Good kid but he was getting exposed too. And when he's getting picked on it's easy to forget about Breeland.

Another negative: When your d is so bad the opposing coach doesn't even have to think about going for it on 4th down, he just does. Total lack of respect, and well deserved too. When you have 3rd and 14 and you turn it into a 4th and 1, I mean our d deserves all the scorn they get. You used to love those situations, now I just sit there wondering if the drive is gonna stop before they score or not.

I will give the d some credit, we have our best record at this stage in years and we wouldn't be winning if they were giving up points as much as they give up yards. But the games where they don't get stops turn into easy wins for our opponents, like the Dallas/Cards game.

As for Everett, the rules all state you have to give the PR time to catch the ball. He didn't, at all. If that was Crowder back there we'd be up in arms over it. A good punt defender slows down as he reaches the catch spot, then waits for the guy to catch it before he hopefully lowers the boom using his shoulder. Everett did none of those things, he just went straight for the head. It doesn't matter how short Sproles is, or what angle he took. You have to give him the time and space necessary to make the catch.

I know this is a lot of bitching over a win, but this team has a lot of room for improvement. We could be talking about a loss if the d doesn't get to Wentz on the last play of their drive.

Rocnrik, just because I believe we can make the playoffs doesn't mean I think we will go far, all it takes is a good defense to shut down our offense and we probably don't stand a chance. If we did make the playoffs, I'd put good odds on getting bounced in the first round, either by Seattle or the Packers. The Packers look to be rounding into form after that beatdown today, and I know better than to bet against Seattle in the playoffs, especially at home.

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Eagles O stinks. No wr's. Rookie QB, beat up O-line. I'll take the win though. We are not in a position to bitch about wins...lol.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1158671]Eagles O stinks. No wr's. Rookie QB, beat up O-line. I'll take the win though. We are not in a position be bitch about wins...lol.[/quote]

no such thing as a bad win, also lets not forget Phi has a damn good d

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[quote=Defensewins;1158637]Just win baby!
That was ugly today.
Our Redskins are really missing too many pieces to do anything this year. That was hard to watch today.
I will say at the risk of pissing off some, when we started the season with Kedric Golden as our #1 NT, I knew our FO was not serious about winning this year.
Our FO basically decided this is a re-building year to be written off. There was zero real attempt to upgrade the DL in Free Agency with a difference maker, that initially pissed me off.
Then drafting a WR high when we are loaded at WR.?.?.?
That pissed me off again.
I like our GM and nobody is perfect. But he has to start to re-build the defense or we will continue to flounder fighting to beat terrible teams like today. The Eagles are decimated at O-line and they nearly beat us. We are not very good.[/quote]

Our GM isn't a spender in FA and felt Doc was BPA. He did draft Fuller, Cravens, a d linemen from Temple and the LB from BC. That is probably how he's going to upgrade and approach FA the same as he has. If someone like Norman comes available make a run at him, otherwise sign low bargain players like Hood, Ricky Jean and Foster

Some of these drafted players that are in the system hopefully start to come through for us next year. The two that I mentioned, Spaight and and a few more. We also have extra picks in this upcoming draft class. I like what SM is doing. Remember, the other way ( gasing up Redskins One, winning the off season) DID NOT work. Remember????

One of the reasons we're short on talent is cause of the RG3 trade. By my count that's 4 highly drafted players that are not here. Those guys should be starters for us, or contriburing. You don't swing and miss like that and don't feel it.

So despite all that we are still in the hunt. I'm happy where we're at, even though it's hard watching this defense. Help is on the way and I expect that will be via the draft, and maybe a free agent or two..

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1158635][B]One guy that hasn't been mentioned is Arie Kouandjio, I want to see him stay as the starter at LG moving forward.[/B]

Breeland had a bad 1st half, but I thought he redeemed himself in the second half with a sack and forced fumble.[/quote]

Yep, I told weeks ago Lauvao better step his game up if he wants to be sure he keeps his starting job, was laughed upon (still hurts... LOL). I think Lauvao regressed since, and Kouandjio made the most of his playing time.

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We did sweep the dirty birds . As far as Breeland , coming out of HS , he was one of the top Safety prospects , maybe he would be better moving to FS next year ?

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[quote=mooby;1158667]How did I forget Baushad Breeland? He still played like ass today, admitted he was better in the second half but not by much. No way I'd rely on him next year. He played like ass for 8 consecutive quarters, there's no way I let him off the hook for the 2nd half. Did anyone notice how Dunbar was getting picked on in the second half too? Good kid but he was getting exposed too. And when he's getting picked on it's easy to forget about Breeland.

Another negative: When your d is so bad the opposing coach doesn't even have to think about going for it on 4th down, he just does. Total lack of respect, and well deserved too. When you have 3rd and 14 and you turn it into a 4th and 1, I mean our d deserves all the scorn they get. You used to love those situations, now I just sit there wondering if the drive is gonna stop before they score or not.

I will give the d some credit, we have our best record at this stage in years and we wouldn't be winning if they were giving up points as much as they give up yards. But the games where they don't get stops turn into easy wins for our opponents, like the Dallas/Cards game.

As for Everett, the rules all state you have to give the PR time to catch the ball. He didn't, at all. If that was Crowder back there we'd be up in arms over it. A good punt defender slows down as he reaches the catch spot, then waits for the guy to catch it before he hopefully lowers the boom using his shoulder. Everett did none of those things, he just went straight for the head. It doesn't matter how short Sproles is, or what angle he took. You have to give him the time and space necessary to make the catch.

I know this is a lot of bitching over a win, but this team has a lot of room for improvement. We could be talking about a loss if the d doesn't get to Wentz on the last play of their drive.

Rocnrik, just because I believe we can make the playoffs doesn't mean I think we will go far, all it takes is a good defense to shut down our offense and we probably don't stand a chance. If we did make the playoffs, I'd put good odds on getting bounced in the first round, either by Seattle or the Packers. The Packers look to be rounding into form after that beatdown today, and I know better than to bet against Seattle in the playoffs, especially at home.[/quote]

I'm not 100% certain because obviously i'm not out on the field, but the reason why Doug Peterson kept going for it on 4th down was because he had lost John Dorenbos to injury, who was the long snapper, and then Brent Celek, who was the backup long snapper, he got injured too. There was not a third string long snapper and they were literally having tryouts on the sideline, and Zac Ertz ended up "winning" the job. Pederson was going for the short 4th downs because he didn't trust someone to come out there and long snap who had never done it before.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1158689]I'm not 100% certain because obviously i'm not out on the field, but the reason why Doug Peterson kept going for it on 4th down was because he had lost John Dorenbos to injury, who was the long snapper, and then Brent Celek, who was the backup long snapper, he got injured too. There was not a third string long snapper and they were literally having tryouts on the sideline, and Zac Ertz ended up "winning" the job. Pederson was going for the short 4th downs because he didn't trust someone to come out there and long snap who had never done it before.[/quote]

This.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1158641]I know Reed is playing hurt but our TE's caught only 2 passes today.[/quote]

It was good to find other ways to win, normally we don't win unless KC lights it up and Reed goes off.

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Next week we need TB to lose to Dallas big time. If they keep winning we are screwed. Giants are basically a lock now to get in unless they lose 2 more games (one to us) and we win out

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1158692]Next week we need TB to lose to Dallas big time. If they keep winning we are screwed. Giants are basically a lock now to get in unless they lose 2 more games (one to us) and we win out

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They have to play Detroit at home and Philly and Wash. on the road, no easy task.

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I also think we're all getting damn greedy. :)

If you told me last year this would be our record right now, I'd have literally done back-flips.

Most of us picked us to have a worse record but be a better team. I think we could say with confidence that's what happened this year. The Bengals tie still pisses me off to no end (AND the Lions loss, but it looks like he's doing that to everyone) but we're doing damn good considering where we were a few years ago. I think a heavy investment into defense in the offseason to where the offense doesn't have to carry the team and we'll look like a legitimate contender.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1158692]Next week we need TB to lose to Dallas big time. If they keep winning we are screwed. Giants are basically a lock now to get in unless they lose 2 more games (one to us) and we win out

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How great would it be to kick the Giants out of the playoffs and take their spot in week 17 ?!

...

Ok, sorry, one game at a time, beat Carolina!

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;1158696]I also think we're all getting damn greedy. :)



If you told me last year this would be our record right now, I'd have literally done back-flips.



Most of us picked us to have a worse record but be a better team. I think we could say with confidence that's what happened this year. The Bengals tie still pisses me off to no end (AND the Lions loss, but it looks like he's doing that to everyone) but we're doing damn good considering where we were a few years ago. I think a heavy investment into defense in the offseason to where the offense doesn't have to carry the team and we'll look like a legitimate contender.[/QUOTE]


Yeah I really don't understand the sour grapes attitude after a division road win.

We're a win away from wrapping up a 2nd straight winning season and we're very much alive for another potential playoff berth, and people are grumbling like we're the Browns or something.

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I actually just blocked someone for the first time ever. Lol. Sorry but anyone who ruins a victory with a picture of that jack ass gets blocked.

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[quote=MTK;1158703]Yeah I really don't understand the sour grapes attitude after a division road win.

We're a win away from wrapping up a 2nd straight winning season and we're very much alive for another potential playoff berth, and people are grumbling like we're the Browns or something.[/quote]

I agree with you, lots to be thankful with where the team is compared to VERY recent years! I think we can get caught up with their potential at times with how they beat the Eagles earlier this year, and wins like the Green Bay game...and we expect them to win "easily" at times against certain teams and when they don't, it's almost disappointing instead of just accepting it as a win.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1158635]One guy that hasn't been mentioned is Arie Kouandjio, I want to see him stay as the starter at LG moving forward.

Breeland had a bad 1st half, but I thought he redeemed himself in the second half with a sack and forced fumble.[/quote]

I thought Kujo was fairly terrible yesterday....he had a tough assignment, but I saw him get dominated in pass pro a couple times and flat out killed on run blocking. Lauvoa is better. Sullivan was decent yesterday. Maybe put Spencer Long in at LG Sullivan at Center.

I think we should slide Bree into slot coverage, see if that helps.

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[quote=Redskins247;1158711]I agree with you, lots to be thankful with where the team is compared to VERY recent years! I think we can get caught up with their potential at times with how they beat the Eagles earlier this year, and wins like the Green Bay game...and we expect them to win "easily" at times against certain teams and when they don't, it's almost disappointing instead of just accepting it as a win.[/quote]

Agreed. Even Cooley and Kevin on their radio show were asking fans if a win would be enough to be happy about the team, Kevin said he wanted a "muscle flexing" performance by the offense to feel as good about this team as he felt after the Green Bay win.

It's a week to week league. There is no guaranteed win. Every game is a war between two of the 32 best football teams on earth... And some teams' strengths match well against others teams' weaknesses, and vice versa. Records don't mean shit.

Be happy to come out victorious of the warpath, and prepare for the next battle!

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[quote=skinsfan69;1158686]Our GM isn't a spender in FA and felt Doc was BPA. He did draft Fuller, Cravens, a d linemen from Temple and the LB from BC. That is probably how he's going to upgrade and approach FA the same as he has. If someone like Norman comes available make a run at him, otherwise sign low bargain players like Hood, Ricky Jean and Foster

Some of these drafted players that are in the system hopefully start to come through for us next year. The two that I mentioned, Spaight and and a few more. We also have extra picks in this upcoming draft class. I like what SM is doing. Remember, the other way ( gasing up Redskins One, winning the off season) DID NOT work. Remember????

One of the reasons we're short on talent is cause of the RG3 trade. By my count that's 4 highly drafted players that are not here. Those guys should be starters for us, or contriburing. You don't swing and miss like that and don't feel it.

So despite all that we are still in the hunt. I'm happy where we're at, even though it's hard watching this defense. Help is on the way and I expect that will be via the draft, and maybe a free agent or two..[/quote]

Solid post. Our d will take a big leap next year. The younger guys will have more experience, we'll pick up some low costs depth in FA, and I'm sure the BPA in the draft will magically be 80-90% defensive players (as it should be).

And Breeland will get his swagger back. He's too physically talented and has played well before. Just needs to get his mind right. If we have good Breeland back, that alone would make our defense way better.

I want to make the playoffs this year more so to keep building a streak from last year. Not gonna win the Super Bowl this year.