Dak v. Romo
 

So, having watched Dak for a few games, I think he's a solid QB - not spectacular. He works well in his system which doesn't ask too much of him. However, he doesn't strike me as someone who can, or ever will, be the guy to put a team on his back and drag them forward like Romo did on more than one occasion.

While he may end up having a few if he plays long enough, he just doesn't strike me as a guy who is going to make a reputation of late game heroics to pull victory from the jaws of defeat as Romo did. However, also unlike Romo, he simply doesn't make the critical mistake that seals the victory for the team.

To me, Dak seems good enough to win lots of games for the Cowpukes given their O-Line and running game. He just seems ... limited.

Clearly Dak is the future, but I am not sure which I prefer as Cowboys QB

Any thoughts? (either on Dak's potential and, if you could chose, who you prefer as the Dallas QB - and by that I mean a Romo type QB (big critical plays/big critical mistakes) v. a Dak type QB (none of either)).

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Maybe it was you who said it, but whoever said he has a low ceiling, I agree (Prescott that is). I watch more Cowboys football than I care to admit because I love to see them fail, but he just isn't slinging it all over the field and winning the game by himself. Unfortunately, the Cowboys are built to where they can win with an offensive line alone. I hope we don't see Romo during the playoffs because HE could actually get them somewhere.

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Romo is more of the gunslinger, big play type QB who will get burned or look brilliant.

Dak is just a smart guy at QB. He is more the game manager-type, will dink and dunk yah to death and has the athleticism to run the boot or pick up the first down with his feet.

I thought it was smart not to go back to Romo.


What Id like to talk about with the Cowboys, is Dez Bryant possibly the most overrated WR of all time? I think he is certainly in the discussion.

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KC> Dak

Anyday.

Could u imagine KC behind that line and RB?

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I thought it was pretty damn ridiculous that at 11-2 a QB change was even being discussed, granted it was more media drama than anything. Romo had a good run but it's over.

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[quote=Chico23231;1159111]


What Id like to talk about with the Cowboys, is Dez Bryant possibly the most overrated WR of all time? I think he is certainly in the discussion.[/quote]

My opinion is he is a very good true 1WR but is not in the top tier of NFL receivers and is also very injury prone. He is also s crybaby bitch who I can't stand.

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[quote=J. Falcon;1159139]My opinion is he is a very good true 1WR but is not in the top tier of NFL receivers and is also very injury prone. He is also s crybaby bitch who I can't stand.[/quote]

Dude is nowhere near these guys:

AJ Green
ODB jr
Antonio Brown
Julio
Mike Evans
Hopkins in Houston
Nelson in Green Bay

Underrated receivers who are better than Dez:

Brandon Cooks
Doug Baldwin
Kelvin Benjamin in Carolina

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Been saying it all year, dak is a solid QB, but he's not a top tier passer and isn't accurate enough downfield. If it wasn't for that oline he wouldn't be very good just the facts. Romo if healthy is a very Good passer and QB, that team would be just as good if Tony was there.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;1159109]Maybe it was you who said it, but whoever said he has a low ceiling, I agree (Prescott that is). I watch more Cowboys football than I care to admit because I love to see them fail, but he just isn't slinging it all over the field and winning the game by himself. Unfortunately, the Cowboys are built to where they can win with an offensive line alone. I hope we don't see Romo during the playoffs because HE could actually get them somewhere.[/QUOTE]



I said he was low ceiling. Maybe lower than I thought. He does what he is told, and faces little to no pressure behind that line. Tons of weapons around him. Romo has been on the sideline too long to switch now, and is obviously getting old. So no doubt Dak is the future, but he is not ever going to be more than a game manager. He is not capable of carrying a team.
I feel dirty because of this thread. Im going to shower now and stop talking about the cowturds.

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We know nothing of Dak's ceiling. After seeing the RGIII rookie season first hand and seeing him flounder ever since, I do not listen to the career predictions of great rookie QB's. In fact most of the really successful QB's either did not play (Brady) or struggled a little their rookie year (Bradshaw).
Romo has no future and will retire soon.
Tired of the Romo talk.

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[quote=Defensewins;1159145]We know nothing of Dak's ceiling. After seeing the RGIII rookie season first hand and seeing him flounder ever since, I do not listen to the career predictions of great rookie QB's. In fact most of the really successful QB's either did not play (Brady) or struggled a little their rookie year (Bradshaw).
Romo has no future and will retire soon.
Tired of the Romo talk.[/quote]

Agreed.

Even though we would all love to believe that Dak's ceiling is low and he'll never be great, the truth is we don't know. Right now he looks above average and I would imagine he still has room to improve. He is careful witht he football, but that maybe because he has never faced real preasure. When he starts getting pressured consistently, his INT's will go up. I wonder how Wentz would look playing for the Cowboys, and Dak for the Eagles.

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[quote=MTK;1159126]I thought it was pretty damn ridiculous that at 11-2 a QB change was even being discussed, granted it was more media drama than anything. Romo had a good run but it's over.[/quote]

Exactly! You go with the one who brought you. A new era in the NFL has arrived. Peyton retired and
Brady soon to follow. Rodgers will be the last one left soon of the older guard. Tony just needs to retire.

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[quote=FlyerSkin;1159151]Exactly! You go with the one who brought you. A new era in the NFL has arrived. Peyton retired and
Brady soon to follow. Rodgers will be the last one left soon of the older guard. Tony just needs to retire.[/quote]

You think Romo has played his last down as a cowboy? Remember, Jerry Jones owns and is the GM.

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[quote=Chico23231;1159152]You think Romo has played his last down as a cowboy? Remember, Jerry Jones owns and is the GM.[/quote]


Romo will not sit as a back up.Barring injury to Dak Romo will not see the field again as a Cowboy.With that name recognition I say Houston ,the Rams and always Cleveland maybe Chicago.

Dak v. Romo
 

[QUOTE=Defensewins;1159145]We know nothing of Dak's ceiling. After seeing the RGIII rookie season first hand and seeing him flounder ever since, I do not listen to the career predictions of great rookie QB's. In fact most of the really successful QB's either did not play (Brady) or struggled a little their rookie year (Bradshaw).

Romo has no future and will retire soon.

Tired of the Romo talk.[/QUOTE]



It is my opinion obviously. Watched him in college, and several times this year. He is doing a great job handling the position as a rookie, but nothing spectacular at all. Could even argue that without that oline, Zeke, Dez, etc that he would be downright lost. Time will tell.

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It pains me to say it but Romo is the better all around QB than Dak, however, Dak has played well enough and is complimented by the league's best offensive line and he has lots of weapons. Dak can win with this Cowboys team and I feel he has earned his right to be their starter going forward.

I believe Romo will play at least two more years, possibly only one if he gets injured again next year or struggles badly. The Rams are rumored to be trying to make a move for Romo in the offseason, as is Houston and Denver. I think complicating the matters will be Romo's contract. The cowboys would likely command a high draft pick or two for Romo. He would almost certainly have to agree to a re-structured contract to make it easier for teams to go after him. I am not sure how much of a chance there is of Dallas straight up releasing him. It honestly makes me think of the Mark Brunell situation in 2004, Jaguars maybe were going to release him but a few teams stepped in with trade offers, and we ended up winning the day with what we offered. I think the next team in line for Brunell after us was the Miami Dolphins, although i don't 100% remember.

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My two cents. Agreed that Dak has not stretched the field and is more successful with the check down passes under a defense. He is a rookie and I think the deep shots will be more in his playbook next year. Remember he did start camp at #3 on the depth chart behind Romo and Moore. Not a whole lotta reps there. But this is just what the team needs anyway. Dallas has to win time of possession to win games. They are in trouble when the defense is on the field too long and gets exposed.

I think that if and when Dallas secures the top seed in the NFC they will hand the ball to Romo for any remaining games. Romo has not played HEALTHY for two years. And he and the Cowboys will want to show the other 31 teams in the league that he can still play at a high level. It will be his audition for the next stop in his career. Once he shows he can still play, the Cowboys will let the market come to them.

I cannot see Houston trading for Romo. They have too much money wrapped up in the QB position and Oswieler. I could see Denver as a landing spot. They do not seem overly enamored with Siemien and Romo would be a good mentor for young Paxton Lynch. I have not heard the Rams mentioned until reading it here. But that would depend on the new Head Coach going forward. And you have to throw the Jets in there. Just because, well, they are the Jets and they like carrying 4 or 5 QBs on the roster.

Dallas will have to trade Romo. Even though from the dollar side of the discussion they SHOULD release him. I feel like Jerry Jones won't do it. He would be perfectly content to have the highest paid backup in the league if he does not get what he wants in trade value.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1159585]
I think that if and when Dallas secures the top seed in the NFC they will hand the ball to Romo for any remaining games. [/quote]

Well, there are only two more games, and I doubt they "hand the ball" to Romo next Monday (especially, if the Giants win, and Dallas needing a win). Being, I believe the Giants will beat the Eagles on Saturday, then I don't surmise Romo will be afforded the opportunity to play (unless, Prescott is injured against the Lions or, possibly, in the last week of the season).

Frankly, I wouldn't wanna play in a meaningless game, if I was Romo, and take the chance of getting injured again in an unimportant matchup.

I'd just play Prescott and/or Sanchez in that scenario. Romo has a chance of being a starting QB somewhere else next season. Sanchez, not so much.

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Dak..Romo shipped sailed Thanksgiving 2015.

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my best friend is a cowboys fan. i think he said it best when he said both of those QBs can win games. but romo is the only one that will lose games. prescott stays within a limited playbook, and is coached well. not throwing it up, and hoping bryant makes a play. romo has a bit of farve in him, always looking down field and trying to make a play

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[QUOTE=dmek25;1160196]my best friend is a cowboys fan. i think he said it best when he said both of those QBs can win games. but romo is the only one that will lose games. prescott stays within a limited playbook, and is coached well. not throwing it up, and hoping bryant makes a play. romo has a bit of farve in him, always looking down field and trying to make a play[/QUOTE]



A bit of Farve is a good thing. Lol. And yeah the great ones usually can win or lose games. Maybe Dak cannot lose games, but he cannot put the team on his back and win either. Give a healthy Romo Zeke, this line, and this D and they are clear cut Super Bowl favorites.

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I think the biggest thing Dak has going for him is that he doesn't make mistakes. They don't ask too much of him and with little pressure on him from the organization to be the man he is thriving because of it. They have such a good team around him that it's easy for him to be confident because they will pick him up if he does make a mistake. I think that if a key guy or two was to get injured they would ask more of him which could mess him up though.