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SirLK26 01-06-2017 04:10 PM

2017 Draft Prospects
 
I paid very little attention to college football this year so I just wanna know what you more knowledgeable folks know. Who are the best players coming out, who are the players you want the Skins to draft?

Evilgrin 01-06-2017 04:46 PM

Re: 2017 Draft Prospects
 
Demarcus Walker is my favorite, but Solomon Thomas is pretty good also. I think both should be available around the time they pick, Thomas is getting more attention now though.

Alvin Walton 01-06-2017 05:10 PM

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Yea he is starting to get some attention but at pick 17 I dont think Solomon Thomas will be there.

He looks fairly monstrous in this video.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl3EAGuIZLs[/url]

skinsfaninok 01-06-2017 07:42 PM

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Taco Charlton MICH, thats who I want in the 1st.

Montravious Adams is my 2nd option so far

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-06-2017 07:48 PM

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Jamal Adams.

Irrefutable 01-06-2017 08:47 PM

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[quote=Evilgrin;1161910]Demarcus Walker is my favorite, but Solomon Thomas is pretty good also. I think both should be available around the time they pick, Thomas is getting more attention now though.[/quote]

Excellent answer, Thomas had 1 sack, several hurries, and 9 tackles in his bowl game. Before the game it appeared he would be available at # 17. It looks like a decent D line class, so a good one should be available.

The mock drafts are all over the place. And the combine has a big impact on picks, so it is still early.

Also will the new coach play a 4-3 ? Are they looking to replace Baker, or play next to him ? or a DE to replace Smith ?

Here is a good list;

[url=http://walterfootball.com/draft2017DE.php]WalterFootball.com: 2017 NFL Draft: Defensive End Rankings[/url]

sdskinsfan2001 01-07-2017 01:31 PM

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I like all the players everyone else above mentioned. I'd take any of them. Although, is Adams more of a SS type? If so we might not need him if Cravens is moving there. Or can he play FS too?

SirLK26 01-09-2017 12:04 PM

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[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/story/_/id/18435663/north-carolina-tar-heels-qb-mitch-trubisky-declares-nfl-draft]North Carolina Tar Heels QB Mitch Trubisky declares for NFL draft[/url]

Watched a little of him against FSU and was not impressed. People are saying he could go first overall? I dont see it. Switzer though from UNC.. guy's a baller

Irrefutable 01-10-2017 06:39 PM

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here is a possible solution to the QB problem with pick #17

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings]NFL Draft - 2017 NFL Draft Prospects - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/url]

although winning the Power Ball lottery is more likely

CarolinaRedskin 01-10-2017 07:05 PM

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Watching Foster, Allen, and Williams played last night has me impressive with the Alabama defensive prospects. I really like both Foster and Allen.

I guess my dream top 5 right now are:

Foster
Thomas
Allen
Adams
Williams

skinsfaninok 01-10-2017 10:16 PM

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[url=http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/worst-draft-pick-bust-every-nfl-team-ryan-leaf-jamarcus-russell-112116]Every NFL team's worst draft pick ever | FOX Sports[/url]

I still have my shuler jersey

Skinsfanatic 01-10-2017 10:27 PM

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Players I have watched that I want at some point in the draft (I realize at least two out of the three are very unlikely):

1. Dalvin Cook, FSU
2. Solomon Thomas, Stanford
3. Demarcus Walker, FSU

skinsfaninok 01-10-2017 10:32 PM

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1162392]Players I have watched that I want at some point in the draft (I realize at least two out of the three are very unlikely):

1. Dalvin Cook, FSU
2. Solomon Thomas, Stanford
3. Demarcus Walker, FSU[/quote]

Cook may be there but we need Defense man, he is a guy that I'd love to have but it'll also depend on FA

Skinsfanatic 01-10-2017 10:35 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1162393]Cook may be there but we need Defense man, he is a guy that I'd love to have but it'll also depend on FA[/quote]

If we could get Cook in the first and Walker in the second, I would take that.

I know we need defense (desperately), but our red zone efficiency (and offense in general) improves 5x with Dalvin.

sdskinsfan2001 01-10-2017 10:55 PM

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Dalvin Cook is the best player in the draft. If he's there at 17, I'd jump all over him.

Irrefutable 01-10-2017 11:06 PM

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1162394]If we could get Cook in the first and Walker in the second, I would take that.

I know we need defense (desperately), but our red zone efficiency (and offense in general) improves 5x with Dalvin.[/quote]

Cook had 6 fumbles this year.... he is good, but we need defense

CarolinaRedskin 01-11-2017 02:48 AM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1162400]Cook had 6 fumbles this year.... he is good, but we need defense[/quote]

The defensive talent in the first round looks good so far. I also believe we need to go defense in the first round. I think we could still pick up a decent RB in the 3rd and 4th rounds. Maybe a Perine, Gallman, Foreman, or Conner.

Alvin Walton 01-11-2017 09:21 AM

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We are not taking a RB in the first round.
And I've had enough of RBs that fumble.

TheMalcolmConnection 01-11-2017 09:58 AM

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With the holes they made for Kelley, even Cook couldn't find extra room. In fact, I imagine he'd find less since he's not as physical.

NCSUredskin 01-11-2017 10:56 AM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1162420]With the holes they made for Kelley, even Cook couldn't find extra room. In fact, I imagine he'd find less since he's not as physical.[/quote]

If we are looking for a good RB for later Rds, we could always look at Matt Dayes from NC State, as a Wolfpack fan, this may be somewhat a homer pick, but I think he has the potential to be a great NFL back.....first Rds need to focus completely on defense!

TheMalcolmConnection 01-11-2017 11:10 AM

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I definitely watch a lot of ACC football too and if we're going to poach a back in the later rounds: James Conner. Dude is an absolute monster.

TheMalcolmConnection 01-11-2017 11:12 AM

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He runs REALLY upright like Eddie George, but I haven't seen a more physical back in a long time.

30gut 01-11-2017 03:58 PM

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Malik McDowel
Solomon Thomas
Rueben Foster
Derek Barnett
OJ Howard
Carlos Watkins

Chico23231 01-11-2017 04:38 PM

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[quote=30gut;1162479]Malik McDowel
Solomon Thomas
Rueben Foster
Derek Barnett
OJ Howard
Carlos Watkins[/quote]

What about the 2 young safety prospects?

30gut 01-11-2017 05:14 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1162487]What about the 2 young safety prospects?[/quote]Adams and Hooker are studs but i think they'll be long gone by pick 17.

SirLK26 01-11-2017 06:27 PM

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I'm a fan of OJ Howard. Similar to Reed in that he's too big and physical for safeties and too athletic for linebackers. Love his run after catch skills. The one game I really watched him in besides highlight videos was Auburn and he threw some nice really blocks in that game, so he's not just a pass catcher. But I dunno how consistent his blocking is, he had a whiff or two as well

Irrefutable 01-11-2017 06:31 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1162428]I definitely watch a lot of ACC football too and if we're going to poach a back in the later rounds: James Conner. Dude is an absolute monster.[/quote]

if Connor passes a thorough physical, I would consider him in the 5th round.... even if you use him solely in short yardage / goal line situations he would be very valuable

I can see 2 RBs being drafted

Chico23231 01-11-2017 07:26 PM

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[quote=30gut;1162490]Adams and Hooker are studs but i think they'll be long gone by pick 17.[/quote]

Word. Probably right.

The 2 RBs are hype?

CarolinaRedskin 01-12-2017 10:56 PM

Re: 2017 Draft Prospects
 
Foxsports.com mock draft

[I]DeShaun Watson - QB - Clemson

This totally depends on how contract negotiations go with Kirk Cousin, obviously, but if Cousins is franchise tagged for a second year or signs elsewhere, Watson, who showed a lot of guts in the National Championship Game, would be a great fit here.

(Washington could also go with Jabrill Peppers in this spot — there are few teams that could assimilate him easily, and Jay Gruden’s team is one of them.)

Needs: Safety, linebacker, defensive line, running back[/I]


Thoughts?

sdskinsfan2001 01-13-2017 02:10 AM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1162413]We are not taking a RB in the first round.
And I've had enough of RBs that fumble.[/quote]

I'm a FSU fan, I've seen a lot of Cook. He's a freaking game changer. Best player in the draft if you ask me. He doesn't have fumbling problems. Just YouTube the Orange Bowl and watch him turn 3rd and 21 into a 71 yard run and 1 inch away from a TD. If we have Cousins locked up and he's there at 17 I'd cry if we didn't get him. And it's not like it's not a position of need. We need another back.

sdskinsfan2001 01-13-2017 02:11 AM

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[quote=CarolinaRedskin;1162669]Foxsports.com mock draft

[I]DeShaun Watson - QB - Clemson

This totally depends on how contract negotiations go with Kirk Cousin, obviously, but if Cousins is franchise tagged for a second year or signs elsewhere, Watson, who showed a lot of guts in the National Championship Game, would be a great fit here.

(Washington could also go with Jabrill Peppers in this spot — there are few teams that could assimilate him easily, and Jay Gruden’s team is one of them.)

Needs: Safety, linebacker, defensive line, running back[/I]


Thoughts?[/quote]

If we let Cousins go and Watson is there at 17 we have to take him. He's underrated if you ask me. He's a winner. Winners are good for the QB position.

budw38 01-13-2017 05:23 AM

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[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/nfl-mock-draft-browns-take-two-defensive-stars-after-hiring-new-coordinator/]NFL Mock Draft: Browns take two defensive stars after hiring new coordinator - CBSSports.com[/url]

Alvin Walton 01-13-2017 08:20 AM

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[quote=budw38;1162693][url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/nfl-mock-draft-browns-take-two-defensive-stars-after-hiring-new-coordinator/]NFL Mock Draft: Browns take two defensive stars after hiring new coordinator - CBSSports.com[/url][/quote]

For our sake, I like that mock.
But then RG!!! starts for Cleveland next year?

CarolinaRedskin 01-13-2017 09:28 AM

Re: 2017 Draft Prospects
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1162689]I'm a FSU fan, I've seen a lot of Cook. He's a freaking game changer. Best player in the draft if you ask me. He doesn't have fumbling problems. Just YouTube the Orange Bowl and watch him turn 3rd and 21 into a 71 yard run and 1 inch away from a TD. If we have Cousins locked up and he's there at 17 I'd cry if we didn't get him. And it's not like it's not a position of need. We need another back.[/quote]


Cook is a beast. No doubt about that and I believe he could boost our running game. He has a great attitude and plays hard every down but in my opinion, there so much rich defensive talent in the first round and I don't see how we can afford not to take a defensive talent in the first round. I think the defensive line and secondary has to be our two biggest needs to fill in the first two or three rounds.

CarolinaRedskin 01-13-2017 09:38 AM

Re: 2017 Draft Prospects
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1162690]If we let Cousins go and Watson is there at 17 we have to take him. He's underrated if you ask me. He's a winner. Winners are good for the QB position.[/quote]

Kinda similar to what I said responding to your Cook comment. I think we should be thinking defense but if we don't have Cousins' then that might change the whole mind set of what we will need in the first round.

sdskinsfan2001 01-13-2017 10:30 AM

Re: 2017 Draft Prospects
 
[quote=CarolinaRedskin;1162718]Kinda similar to what I said responding to your Cook comment. I think we should be thinking defense but if we don't have Cousins' then that might change the whole mind set of what we will need in the first round.[/quote]

There are definitely arguments to going defense at 17. But if either of those guys are there they'd be the BPA at that point.

Irrefutable 01-13-2017 01:07 PM

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FWIW reportedly Alabama OLB/DE Tim Williams failed several drug tests..... his stock is dropping.

Yet he played in the NCAA championship game

[url=http://deadspin.com/where-did-alabama-linebacker-tim-williams-get-that-weed-1787248111]Where Did Alabama Linebacker Tim Williams Get That Weed? He Got It From, Uh, Brandon Chicken[/url]

Chico23231 01-13-2017 01:17 PM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1162761]FWIW reportedly Alabama OLB/DE Tim Williams failed several drug tests..... his stock is dropping.

Yet he played in the NCAA championship game

[url=http://deadspin.com/where-did-alabama-linebacker-tim-williams-get-that-weed-1787248111]Where Did Alabama Linebacker Tim Williams Get That Weed? He Got It From, Uh, Brandon Chicken[/url][/quote]

LOL he told the officer he was holding it for Brandon Chicken. Oh man I wish I was with him when he told the officer that...Id be on the ground rolling. lol

SouperMeister 01-13-2017 03:17 PM

Re: 2017 Draft Prospects
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1162761]FWIW reportedly Alabama OLB/DE Tim Williams failed several drug tests..... his stock is dropping.

Yet he played in the NCAA championship game

[url=http://deadspin.com/where-did-alabama-linebacker-tim-williams-get-that-weed-1787248111]Where Did Alabama Linebacker Tim Williams Get That Weed? He Got It From, Uh, Brandon Chicken[/url][/quote]Sounds like Randy Gregory. Pass.

Irrefutable 01-13-2017 06:04 PM

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Solomon Thomas should be the pick....unless you have to trade up to get him

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoJP2nFFH_k[/url]


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