Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/29786/sean-mcvay-convinced-kirk-cousins-will-keep-improving]Former coordinator Sean McVay says Kirk Cousins will keep improving - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

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I say we trade a 2nd rounder and Kirk Cousins for Mark Sanchez.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1163174]I say we trade a 2nd rounder and Kirk Cousins for Mark Sanchez.[/quote]

Problem solved! Can we start a Sanchez thread now?

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1163174]I say we trade a 2nd rounder and Kirk Cousins for Mark Sanchez.[/QUOTE]



Or if you want to really get on the fast track sign Tebow to a ten year deal. Boom. Quarterback- check. Than trade a first and second for Sanchez. Boom. Backup quarterback- check. Than convert Cousins to safety.

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Tebow could have been a decent tight end.
The next Mark Bavaro.

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Trade Cousins and this years number one for ROMO....that would still not be as bad as the Haynsworth deal.....

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[quote=rocnrik;1163180]Trade Cousins and this years number one for ROMO....that would still not be as bad as the Haynsworth deal.....[/quote]

Where is Romo gonna end up? Arizona and Kansas City are my guesses....dark horses is Kansas City. I'd watch Chicago and Denver too, but they are second tier. San Fran and Jets lagging in the race.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/17/will-49ers-be-in-play-for-kirk-cousins/]Will 49ers be in play for Kirk Cousins? | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Florio smoking meth and freebasing bullshit

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1163181]Where is Romo gonna end up? Arizona and Kansas City are my guesses....dark horses is Kansas City. I'd watch Chicago and Denver too, but they are second tier. San Fran and Jets lagging in the race.[/QUOTE]



He would take the texans to the next level
Too bad they locked up suckweiler.

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1163180]Trade Cousins and this years number one for ROMO....that would still not be as bad as the Haynsworth deal.....[/QUOTE]



A million dollars for a bag of shit would be better too. Lol

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Florio hates us, he is just mad that he can't clown us anymore.

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[quote=Chico23231;1163182][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/17/will-49ers-be-in-play-for-kirk-cousins/]Will 49ers be in play for Kirk Cousins? | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Florio smoking meth and freebasing bullshit[/quote]

Found a live video of Florio at home:

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What, closing the other thread just before 100 pages? MTK is a game manager moderator.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1163201]What, closing the other thread just before 100 pages? MTK is a game manager moderator.[/quote]

He had to shut it down before it had 1500 posts in it too, those are rookie numbers. Matty is the Alex Smith of moderators.

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[quote=mooby;1163203]He had to shut it down before it had 1500 posts in it too, those are rookie numbers. Matty is the Alex Smith of moderators.[/quote]

He's definitely reached his ceiling. He is who I thought he was!!

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1163178]Tebow could have been a decent tight end.
The next Mark Bavaro.[/quote]



Nope, maybe Don Warren but no, no one will ever be another Mark Bavaro.:nono:

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1163201]What, closing the other thread just before 100 pages? MTK is a game manager moderator.[/QUOTE]



It's only true if Bucky Brooks says it.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1163207]It's only true if Bucky Brooks says it.[/QUOTE]



LOL. I am not upset about a new thread, but I am a little upset that he is gone. I was initially trying to reason with him but it quickly became apparent that was not an option. His posts were hysterical though.

Post one - You guys are so stupid and immature that why do you even listen to me? I mean who cares what ai post? Post an opinion just so you guys can bully me? Fuck. U. Scumbag.

(Wait five seconds)

Post two - I cant believe how angry u guys are.

That shit was seriously entertaining and disturbing at its finest.

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He was a natural born thread killer.

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[quote=MTK;1163207]It's only true if Bucky Brooks says it.[/quote]

:laughing2

the man is Jesus to some...

Who was the turd that Sandtrap worshipped?

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This thread is a spoof of the past one lol. Haven't even talked about Cousins yet.

It's going to be fun constantly checking for updates for the next couple months regarding his contract situation.

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What are the odds that we'd see some weird situation happen to where the Chargers and the 49ers get into a bidding war for Kirk Cousins? Such as, the 'skins decide they're doing a nonexclusive tag on Kirk, the 49ers and Chargers get into a bidding war, because Kyle Shanahan is going to want Cousins, and Rivers seems like he may ask to be traded, so the Chargers would need a quarterback. The Redskins could sit back and say, OK, we're not matching either offer, but here's the deal, Chargers, you can have Kirk for a trade for Rivers and a draft pick of some sorts, 9er's, you HAVE to give us your two first rounders.

Either way, I could probably be on board if we HAVE to let Kirk go. I'd rather have a proven franchise QB, and Rivers would be that guy, but then again, you're talking about a very high, first round pick from the 49ers that the Redskins could probably choose the best QB available.


I guess I'm a little skeptical that the Redskins are going to offer enough for Cousins to want to stay in Washington, especially if the Redskins don't tag him at all. Who knows? That's why I work for a college in NC in IT and not for the Washington Redskins negotiating contracts.

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[quote=metalskins;1163216]What are the odds that we'd see some weird situation happen to where the Chargers and the 49ers get into a bidding war for Kirk Cousins? Such as, the 'skins decide they're doing a nonexclusive tag on Kirk, the 49ers and Chargers get into a bidding war, because Kyle Shanahan is going to want Cousins, and Rivers seems like he may ask to be traded, so the Chargers would need a quarterback. The Redskins could sit back and say, OK, we're not matching either offer, but here's the deal, Chargers, you can have Kirk for a trade for Rivers and a draft pick of some sorts, 9er's, you HAVE to give us your two first rounders.

Either way, I could probably be on board if we HAVE to let Kirk go. I'd rather have a proven franchise QB, and Rivers would be that guy, but then again, you're talking about a very high, first round pick from the 49ers that the Redskins could probably choose the best QB available.


I guess I'm a little skeptical that the Redskins are going to offer enough for Cousins to want to stay in Washington, especially if the Redskins don't tag him at all. Who knows? That's why I work for a college in NC in IT and not for the Washington Redskins negotiating contracts.[/quote]

Rivers is too old to build around. We're still a year or 2 away. If for some reason Cousins isn't on the team next year I want a young qb to start next year.

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I believe Rivers already said he doesn't mind moving to LA and is not going to request a trade. Anyway Rivers is already 35 years old, how much longer do you think he'll play?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1163218]Rivers is too old to build around. We're still a year or 2 away. If for some reason Cousins isn't on the team next year I want a young qb to start next year.[/quote]

Phillip Rivers is 35, but he's healthy and he's still a very good quarterback. The Redskins could win right away with him. The scenario is, Jay Gruden can't really afford to take a step or two backwards this season, or he's probably going to be gone. Honestly, before the 'skins started on their big run in the middle of 2015, I was very much on the fence with Gruden. I didn't think he was the best hire - I felt there were better hires out there. However, since that point, the Redskins have been winning more than they have been losing, and now that it looks like the team is heading upward, I hate the thoughts of the team taking a step backwards because they lost Kirk and they need to develop a fresh new QB out of college. Maybe we luck up and get Dak Prescott 2.0, but if this isn't the case, you're going to be out of a head coach and having to start all over again. At least with Rivers, you could potentially still draft a QB who will take his place, but Rivers gives you an opportunity to win now. If you were able to squeeze three solid years out of Rivers, then you've built a contender and a much better situation to put a young QB in.

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[quote=J. Falcon;1163220]I believe Rivers already said he doesn't mind moving to LA and is not going to request a trade. Anyway Rivers is already 35 years old, how much longer do you think he'll play?[/quote]


I've heard both. And keep in mind, I'm just throwing that out there as a hypothetical. At least trying to get this thread back on track of Cousins talk. Should we lose Cousins, I just want something in return. If we lose him without tagging him, then we're probably looking for a new head coach as well. Which, who knows, might be a good thing in the end, but I think Gruden has proven to be a better head coach than what we've had in several years, so I'd hate to mess up continuity.

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Just heard Dan Patrick discussing the "what if" scenario of Kyle becoming head coach of 49er's and trading their high 1st round pick for Cousins. I really don't think that WOULD happen...nor would I want it to. IMO there isn't a great QB in this draft and we'd probably be going with McCoy as the starter for next season. I don't see a likely scenario of anything outside of paying a LOT of $$$ for Kirk.

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[quote=Redskins247;1163225]Just heard Dan Patrick discussing the "what if" scenario of Kyle becoming head coach of 49er's and trading their high 1st round pick for Cousins. I really don't think that WOULD happen...nor would I want it to. IMO there isn't a great QB in this draft and we'd probably be going with McCoy as the starter for next season. I don't see a likely scenario of anything outside of paying a LOT of $$$ for Kirk.[/quote]

I think Dan is probably going off that garbage article on PFT article last night....him and Florio have a working relationship on Sunday night football and brings on Shit-Flor-Brains every now and again to give him a lil boost.

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So when can a franchise tagged player and the team begin contract negotiations. I was thinking it was after the last regular season game, but I think someone on here said maybe after the Super Bowl. Anyone know the rule?

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1163227]So when can a franchise tagged player and the team begin contract negotiations. I was thinking it was after the last regular season game, but I think someone on here said maybe after the Super Bowl. Anyone know the rule?[/quote]

I thought it was after the last regular season game as well, but others seem to think after the Super Bowl. Either way, in a couple of weeks, we should start hearing something about contract talks.

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[quote=Redskins247;1163225]Just heard Dan Patrick discussing the "what if" scenario of Kyle becoming head coach of 49er's and trading their high 1st round pick for Cousins. I really don't think that WOULD happen...nor would I want it to. IMO there isn't a great QB in this draft and we'd probably be going with McCoy as the starter for next season. I don't see a likely scenario of anything outside of paying a LOT of $$$ for Kirk.[/quote]

Just this year's first round pick? I hardly think so. It would have to be multiple picks including their 2017 first round pick.

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Okay so after 3 years of the Grud, 2 years of SM and 2 Years of KC, hear is where I am in the whole Cousins deal:

I am fine if we keep Cousins and he is paid long term (I prefer this, in fact).

I am also OK if Cousins gets traded for a couple of high picks and/or legit players.

I was surprised when I came to this realization in the week after the giants game. I am Gruden fan, SM fan and a KC fan. But I am not a KC fan at the expense of the entire team.

KC can win SBs here if the rest of the team is stout. He can also be Dan Fouts and Dan Marino tons of offense that can't win championships. I would rather see more championships than fantasy wasta.

To reiterate: I want to see long term deal where KC stays and wins a ton. But I am strangely OK with letting him walk if we get a good price. I love the direction the team is headed and firmly believe all we need is a couple more years to compete consistently.

side note, to those being hyper critical of living through a rebuild: I mean FFS - this is the first year we were in every game but 1 against a division champs schedule since...since....I don't know when..91 probably, and we won more than lost! Why cant we simply enjoy the progress....httr

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[quote=Kope;1163234]Okay so after 3 years of the Grud, 2 years of SM and 2 Years of KC, hear is where I am in the whole Cousins deal:

I am fine if we keep Cousins and he is paid long term (I prefer this, in fact).

I am also OK if Cousins gets traded for a couple of high picks and/or legit players.

I was surprised when I came to this realization in the week after the giants game. I am Gruden fan, SM fan and a KC fan. But I am not a KC fan at the expense of the entire team.

KC can win SBs here if the rest of the team is stout. He can also be Dan Fouts and Dan Marino tons of offense that can't win championships. I would rather see more championships than fantasy wasta.

To reiterate: I want to see long term deal where KC stays and wins a ton. But I am strangely OK with letting him walk if we get a good price. I love the direction the team is headed and firmly believe all we need is a couple more years to compete consistently.

side note, to those being hyper critical of living through a rebuild: I mean FFS - this is the first year we were in every game but 1 against a division champs schedule since...since....I don't know when..91 probably, and we won more than lost! Why cant we simply enjoy the progress....httr[/quote]

What a rational and well thought out post Kope. I agree with 99% of it, for me the only minor difference is the asking price of KC for another team would have to be better than/as good as the price we gave up for RG3. I have waited too long to see a competent qb lead this team and I'm not willing to give him up that easily.

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[quote=mooby;1163237]What a rational and well thought out post Kope. I agree with 99% of it, for me the only minor difference is the asking price of KC for another team would have to be better than/as good as the price we gave up for RG3. I have waited too long to see a competent qb lead this team and I'm not willing to give him up that easily.[/quote]

Agree that is the single biggest frustration with being a skins fan, QB play. So I guess I am used it and can wait longer if the team benefits from KC leaving.

the way I see QB play in DC is as follows: We havent had 3 consistent years of good QB play here since I have started watching in 81. Seriously - the only good QB we have drafted I think is Sammy Baugh. Two of our SB QBs were retreads, Ryp was not good except for the year he got sacked 9 times and our defense didnt allow a point at home until game 4 at home - not hard to play QB on a team like that. Even Sonny and Billy were not drafted here. so yeas I want KC here for 10+ years but I would rather have Lombardis #4,5,6 and three more average QBs.....

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[quote=Kope;1163242]Agree that is the single biggest frustration with being a skins fan, QB play. So I guess I am used it and can wait longer if the team benefits from KC leaving.

the way I see QB play in DC is as follows: We havent had 3 consistent years of good QB play here since I have started watching in 81. Seriously - the only good QB we have drafted I think is Sammy Baugh. Two of our SB QBs were retreads, Ryp was not good except for the year he got sacked 9 times and our defense didnt allow a point at home until game 4 at home - not hard to play QB on a team like that. Even Sonny and Billy were not drafted here. so yeas I want KC here for 10+ years but I would rather have Lombardis #4,5,6 and three more average QBs.....[/quote]

I also agree on your last point but I do not believe more rings are attainable with average qb play. NFL history has taught us that Gibbs' 3 titles with 3 qb's is the outlier, the majority of other rings have been won by teams with solid-to-elite qb play. Solid being Eli Manning, who is as clutch as anyone, Trent Dilfer, Joe Flacco. Still a small sample size in comparison to the list of teams who have won titles with above-average to elite qb play. Point is, if we let Cousins go, who knows how long it will take to get another decent qb. I don't want to take that risk.

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We can pay KC 21-24 million a year and still build a good team around him. How much is Matt Ryan making? Probably somewhere in the low 20's with the current salary cap. The cap goes up the next few years. To me this isn't the issue. The issue comes down to whether Snyder/front office thinks he's worth that kind of money. My guess is they don't.

I would guess that KC will be here next year, maybe w/out a long term deal. But in 2018 he may not be. Especially if Kyle and Boy Wonder are going to be looking for a starter.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1163245]I would guess that KC will be here next year, maybe w/out a long term deal. But in 2018 he may not be. Especially if Kyle and Boy Wonder are going to be looking for a starter.[/quote]

Yes there should be room to pay him and have improved team - that is my hope and wish. However what will piss me off is if Cousins gets a good solid offer and makes us tag him again because he wants top 3 ish money - read is more worried about "respect" than winning championships. If cousins goes that route then tag him and get what we can.

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I'm going a bit mad over this contract/signing/non-signing crap.
Can Cousins take us to a championship?
I think most people would say its definitely possible.
So then you pay him whatever the going rate is.
The going rate keeps going up but fortunately the salary cap does too.
He's got enough endorsements from fans/coaches.
Just sign him and draft a freakin pass rush.............
:mad:

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[quote=Kope;1163234]Okay so after 3 years of the Grud, 2 years of SM and 2 Years of KC, hear is where I am in the whole Cousins deal:

I am fine if we keep Cousins and he is paid long term (I prefer this, in fact).

I am also OK if Cousins gets traded for a couple of high picks and/or legit players.

I was surprised when I came to this realization in the week after the giants game. I am Gruden fan, SM fan and a KC fan. But I am not a KC fan at the expense of the entire team.

KC can win SBs here if the rest of the team is stout. He can also be Dan Fouts and Dan Marino tons of offense that can't win championships. I would rather see more championships than fantasy wasta.

To reiterate: I want to see long term deal where KC stays and wins a ton. But I am strangely OK with letting him walk if we get a good price. I love the direction the team is headed and firmly believe all we need is a couple more years to compete consistently.

side note, to those being hyper critical of living through a rebuild: I mean FFS - this is the first year we were in every game but 1 against a division champs schedule since...since....I don't know when..91 probably, and we won more than lost! Why cant we simply enjoy the progress....httr[/quote]

You nailed it bro this is exactly where I come down.

Preferably we'll hitch our wagon to him for three years and continue to take shots at QBs in the draft if we think we've got a Russell Wilson.

BPA rule applies to the QB position too.

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For everyone who is OK with watching KC leave, I ask you to consider (I think I have everyone since we won a Superbowl):

RGIII
Rex Grossman
John Beck
Jason Campbell
Mark Brunell (the old one)
Donovan McNabb (same)
Todd Collins
Patrick Ramsey
Tim Hasselbeck
Shane Matthews
Danny Wuerffel
Tony Banks
Jeff George
Brad Johnson (well, that might have worked out)
Trent Green (same)
Gus Frerotte
Jeff Hostetler
Heath Shuler
John Friesz

So we have a QB that has broken most franchise records, led us to consecutive winning seasons in I-can't-remember-how-long, was top 5 in most statistical categories in the league this year, is by all accounts a super teammate and all around good guy. . .

and folks would let him go for a few picks? Honestly, I do not get this. Unless you have a once-in-a-few decades defense, no team has won it all without a franchise QB.