Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 

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Yep.....
[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/62215/Redskins-fire-GM-Scot-McCloughan-after-two-seasons/Default.aspx]Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan after two seasons[/url]

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Detailed article:

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/redskins-fire-gm-scot-mccloughan-after-two-seasons/2017/03/09/652aa4f0-04fc-11e7-b9fa-ed727b644a0b_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.1822da5c6e72[/url]

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Damnit boy.....I HATE Snyder and Allen

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I said in the other thread, Snyder is the new Al Davis. He's just younger but perhaps even more senile.

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No excuse for drinking on the job.

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believe it was becaues HE decided not to show up for the combine for as HE wanted to dry out . . . and then continued to drink . . . i read somewhere the picture of him at the grocery store yesterday he was there to buy more booze . . . they gave him plenty of chances and he drank his way away from them.

from Keims article: "A source with knowledge of the situation said it was McCloughan's decision not to attend the combine and that he and team agreed on his grandmother's death as the reason. The source also said it was McCloughan's decision to leave the facility in late February."

you can only blame Snyder and Allen for hiring a drunk in the first place . . . and giving him so many chances . . . but you can also see why as he did give them a taste of success

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hopefully that taste of success will lead them to hire a competent and sober GM

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[quote=MTK;1167387]No excuse for drinking on the job.[/quote]

They knowingly hired a functioning alcoholic who was let go from two previous teams. He relapses and it's all of a sudden a surprise? If it was just the drinking, I'm fairly certain they had built-in contingency plans to make sure the machine kept running (while riding it out with SM). It should have taken a monumental faceplant to fire him- like a video of SM streaking across the 50 yard line to Danny's office and taking a leak all over his desk going viral type faceplant.

One player said he was drunk. However:

"Of a half-dozen Redskins players reached Thursday afternoon, none said they’d ever seen McCloughan drink in the locker room. All but one said they never saw him act if he weren’t composed and in control. They added that they never felt he wasn’t able to do his job, and they seemed surprised the question was being raised.

“I don’t know what their issue is with him,” one player said, “but all the players love Scot.”

This move reeks of jealousy just waiting to use drinking as the excuse. Snake in the grass.

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Terrible terrible terrible.

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[quote=MTK;1167387]No excuse for drinking on the job.[/quote]


That is NOT the fucking reason.

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[quote=itvnetop;1167390]They knowingly hired a functioning alcoholic who was let go from two previous teams. He relapses and it's all of a sudden a surprise? If it was just the drinking, I'm fairly certain they had built-in contingency plans to make sure the machine kept running (while riding it out with SM). It should have taken a monumental faceplant to fire him- like a video of SM streaking across the 50 yard line to Danny's office and taking a leak all over his desk going viral type faceplant.

One player said he was drunk. However:

"Of a half-dozen Redskins players reached Thursday afternoon, none said they’d ever seen McCloughan drink in the locker room. All but one said they never saw him act if he weren’t composed and in control. They added that they never felt he wasn’t able to do his job, and they seemed surprised the question was being raised.

“I don’t know what their issue is with him,” one player said, “but all the players love Scot.”

This move reeks of jealousy just waiting to use drinking as the excuse. Snake in the grass.[/quote]

he relapsed multiple times and they forgave him and then HE decided he couldn't be there for the most important time of the off season . . . this is on SM

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1167394]he relapsed multiple times and they forgave him and then HE decided he couldn't be there for the most important time of the off season . . . this is on SM[/quote]

Says an unnamed "official."

And he probably peace'd out from the combine because he couldn't take any more of Allen's ego.

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I'm hearing that the reports of Scotty falling off the wagon is a smear job and that firing him was actually a power grab.

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Who knows. Its a done deal now. If they re-sign RG3 then and only then will I say its 100percent Dan Snyder/Bruce allen

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1167394]he relapsed multiple times and they forgave him and then HE decided he couldn't be there for the most important time of the off season . . . this is on SM[/quote]

WHo's this from? Bruce Allen?

I think the other reports are more likely to be correct about Bruce Allen's ego. Dude is a straight up liar.

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Makes me sick

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In Jay I trust.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1167400]WHo's this from? Bruce Allen?

I think the other reports are more likely to be correct about Bruce Allen's ego. Dude is a straight up liar.[/quote]

i've been around some very very bad alcoholics . . . there is NO question in my mind that SM has been hitting the sauce very very very heavily . . . AND, multiple sources say it was all SM's decision to bail on the combine . . . and then he kept drinking and could not be here for the start of FA either . . . sorry, but that is on him . . . period . . . only think snyder and allen are guilty of this time is hiring a drunk and expecting it not to be a problem.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1167393]That is NOT the fucking reason.[/quote]

Maybe, maybe not. Still no excuse for showing up to your job drunk. Sorry but there's no defending that whatsoever.

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I can't believe how poorly the redskins handled this...it's like they never learn.

This looks terrible around the league period

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[quote=MTK;1167412]Maybe, maybe not. Still no excuse for showing up to your job drunk. Sorry but there's no defending that whatsoever.[/quote]

Who said he showed up at his job drunk?

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So Scot gets fired and then Kirk decides to sign the franchise tag offer. I'm surprised no one is talking about the timing of all this.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1167414]Who said he showed up at his job drunk?[/quote]

Read the WP article.

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I would not and do not believe anything the redskins say. Snyder and Allen are proven liars. Only a matter of time now until a player or someone else spills the beans on this being a smear job. I hope Scot sues those pieces of shit for every dime they have. Waiting for cousins to go on an be traded so my time with this team is done. I can't support this insanity anymore.

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Another player, however, characterized McCloughan as frequently drunk but never thought much about it because his behavior and comportment never changed.

The portrait the team official painted Thursday was starkly different — that of an employee whose dependency impaired his ability to function on the job and who failed to respond to multiple attempts at recovery.

“He’s been drunk at work,” the team official said. “He’s been drunk at games.”

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/redskins-fire-gm-scot-mccloughan-after-two-seasons/2017/03/09/652aa4f0-04fc-11e7-b9fa-ed727b644a0b_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.b3497cabaae0[/url]

Frequently drunk, drunk at work, drunk at games. FFS what are we arguing about here? There's just no defending this behavior. Doesn't matter if it affects his ability to do the job or not, you can't show up to work drunk bottom line, end of story. They probably could have canned him a long time ago.

It's also worth pointing out they fired him for cause. That means they likely have some strong documentation to back it up.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1167416]So Scot gets fired and then Kirk decides to sign the franchise tag offer. I'm surprised no one is talking about the timing of all this.

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If they don't trade him/offer him a worthy LTD after he signs the tag, Cuz is deuces next season. He'll take less per year with another team than sign a one-year 34 mill tag with this organization.

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Yup Cooley had marching orders on the radio.

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[quote=MTK;1167387]No excuse for drinking on the job.[/quote]

I wonder who the team official is who's being quoted in this article? I would be willing to bet it's Allen or Cooley. But even one of the players said he was drunk. Not good.

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[quote=MTK;1167419]Frequently drunk, drunk at work, drunk at games. FFS what are we arguing about here? There's just no defending this behavior. Doesn't matter if it affects his ability to do the job or not, you can't show up to work drunk bottom line, end of story. They probably could have canned him a long time ago.

It's also worth pointing out they fired him for cause. That means they likely have some strong documentation to back it up.[/quote]

If he was doing all that then yes they did have cause to terminate him. Wonder what got the drinking started to begin with? Friction with Bruce Allen from the get go?


But doesn't this also say something?

[url]https://twitter.com/Eman_dc21/status/840009852214743040[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;1167416]So Scot gets fired and then Kirk decides to sign the franchise tag offer. I'm surprised no one is talking about the timing of all this.

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And remember how Kirk responded "How do you like me now?" and roughed up Scot's head? Maybe Kirk asked for a trade because he hates Scot, Scot gets fired, and then Kirk signs his tag in hopes of mending fences and working out a long term deal.

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[QUOTE=Skinsfanatic;1167425]And remember how Kirk responded "How do you like me now?" and roughed up Scot's head? Maybe Kirk asked for a trade because he hates Scot, Scot gets fired, and then Kirk signs his tag in hopes of mending fences and working out a long term deal.[/QUOTE]
I'm just curious to know what the masses would say if Scot was the reason the team wasn't committing to Kirk.

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[B]@MikeJonesWaPo

Was told late in the season of jealousy up top and how they'd one day use McCloughan drinking as an excuse to can him. Exactly what happened[/B]



[url]https://twitter.com/MikeJonesWaPo/status/839994549279838208[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;1167426]I'm just curious to know what the masses would say if Scot was the reason the team wasn't committing to Kirk.

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Scot wanted to give Kirk the LTD before last season... apparently the "brass" wasn't happy he was telling insiders this during this whole second tag business. Said brass interpreted this as "undermining" them.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1167426]I'm just curious to know what the masses would say if Scot was the reason the team wasn't committing to Kirk.

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Or maybe the team started the rumor to get some redskins fans off suicide watch.
He's going to sign eventually.

This team and their leaks are bullshit.
They hire a drunk who never said he gave up drinking but want to fire him for drinking. that's like dating a stripper and complaining she flirts with too many guys.


Fuck Cooley for starting these rumors for the team. What a coward.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1167398]Who knows. Its a done deal now. If they re-sign RG3 then and only then will I say its 100percent Dan Snyder/Bruce allen

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Wait, is that a rumor? That rg3 is coming back here??

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Not really buying the whole raging drunk stories...doesn't pass the smell test. This is something the media you would think would have wrote about before. Lot of conflicting statements about McC...what is clear is the power struggle and bruce lying to McC about his roles and marginalizing his authority. I simply think the front office fucked this us big time...I can't trust Snyder and Bruce period. They are slimey characters with bad track records of personael and football decisions.

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[quote=jamf;1167431]
They hire a drunk who never said he gave up drinking but want to fire him for drinking. that's like dating a stripper and complaining she flirts with too many guys.
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:laughing2

But... but she said she was going to change just for me!

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[QUOTE=jamf;1167431]Or maybe the team started the rumor to get some redskins fans off suicide watch.
He's going to sign eventually.

This team and their leaks are bullshit.
They hire a drunk who never said he gave up drinking but want to fire him for drinking. that's like dating a stripper and complaining she flirts with too many guys.


Fuck Cooley for starting these rumors for the team. What a coward.[/QUOTE]
But I'm not talking about a rumor, just the news that Kirk has decided to sign his tender right after the news if Scott's firing came out.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1167429][B]@MikeJonesWaPo

Was told late in the season of jealousy up top and how they'd one day use McCloughan drinking as an excuse to can him. Exactly what happened[/B]



[url]https://twitter.com/MikeJonesWaPo/status/839994549279838208[/url][/quote]

This is brutal. I hope McC sues Snyder.