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Chico23231 03-21-2017 09:12 AM

The Ideal First 3 Rounds Redskins Draft Picks
 
The other day in a thread we mentioned the ability to draft starters for the upcoming year. Guys who could step in right away or transition to starter within the first year. I think to come away with 3 guys within a draft constitutes a "great, outstanding draft." With that being said, the first three rounds will provide the best chance to obtain these type players. We have 10 picks going into the draft which also gives up the ability to go up and get a player we like.

So tell me who are your ideal first three picks for the Skins? Who would like to get in the first 3 rounds of the draft who could be starting for the Skins within the first year? This is your homerun type get. My first combination would be:

Round 1: Solomon Thomas DE/OLB 3-4. Pass Rushing, Athletic Baller

Round 2: Calab Brantley NT/DE in the mold similar to McClain. A little undersized, but fast and Athletic. His mocks are all over the place, but most think it he falls to 2nd round.

Round 3: Joe Mixon RB. We know the baggage, but its in the past. This is a guy who could come in and take the offense to another dimension. IMO, this is the draft where I find out if Jay is serious about ever developing an outstanding offense with a good/great RB.

These guys are starters in the league. Who you got as your first 3 rounds for the Skins?

Irrefutable 03-21-2017 10:21 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1168436]The other day in a thread we mentioned the ability to draft starters for the upcoming year. Guys who could step in right away or transition to starter within the first year. I think to come away with 3 guys within a draft constitutes a "great, outstanding draft." With that being said, the first three rounds will provide the best chance to obtain these type players. We have 10 picks going into the draft which also gives up the ability to go up and get a player we like.

So tell me who are your ideal first three picks for the Skins? Who would like to get in the first 3 rounds of the draft who could be starting for the Skins within the first year? This is your homerun type get. My first combination would be:

Round 1: Solomon Thomas DE/OLB 3-4. Pass Rushing, Athletic Baller

Round 2: Calab Brantley NT/DE in the mold similar to McClain. A little undersized, but fast and Athletic. His mocks are all over the place, but most think it he falls to 2nd round.

Round 3: Joe Mixon RB. We know the baggage, but its in the past. This is a guy who could come in and take the offense to another dimension. IMO, this is the draft where I find out if Jay is serious about ever developing an outstanding offense with a good/great RB.

These guys are starters in the league. Who you got as your first 3 rounds for the Skins?[/quote]

Round 1 Thomas is projected in the top 10.... top 5 in some places, unless he is caught robbing a bank he will not be available at #17

Round 2 Brantley might be a solid pick

Round 3 Mixon has to much baggage for the Redskins to pick
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Round 1 unless a great player slips, trade down.... then get D lineman
Round 2 Evan Engram TE... maybe big WR
Round 3 M Adams DL

Chico23231 03-21-2017 10:26 AM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1168438]Round 1 Thomas is projected in the top 10.... top 5 in some places, unless he is caught robbing a bank he will not be available at #17

Round 2 Brantley might be a solid pick

Round 3 Mixon has to much baggage for the Redskins to pick
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Round 1 unless a great player slips trade down.... then get D lineman
Round 2 Evan Engram TE... maybe big WR
Round 3 M Adams DL[/quote]

I don't know, Thomas could slip, but unlikely.

So what D-Lineman at 17? Not a ton of options there with Dline. I don't like what Ive heard about the DT from Mich St who is a half ass. pass on that. I think you'll have a big choice of Pass Rushers who fit the style of 3-4 OLB. But BPA at 17 could be WR or OJ Howard.

dmek25 03-21-2017 10:30 AM

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defense
defense
defense

skinsfaninok 03-21-2017 10:47 AM

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At 17 I think u have to take BPA

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Irrefutable 03-21-2017 11:16 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1168439]I don't know, Thomas could slip, but unlikely.

So what D-Lineman at 17? Not a ton of options there with Dline. I don't like what Ive heard about the DT from Mich St who is a half ass. pass on that. I think you'll have a big choice of Pass Rushers who fit the style of 3-4 OLB. But BPA at 17 could be WR or OJ Howard.[/quote]

again trade down unless OJ Howard or another great one slips. There will probably be a QB available, or Cook and there will be teams that want to move up. Forget Mich State DL... underachiever., who looks good on paper, not on the field. You have 4 possible OLB/pass rushers now, where would a 5th fit in ?

SirLK26 03-21-2017 11:49 AM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1168444]again trade down unless OJ Howard or another great one slips. There will probably be a QB available, or Cook and there will be teams that want to move up. Forget Mich State DL... underachiever., who looks good on paper, not on the field. [B]You have 4 possible OLB/pass rushers now, where would a 5th fit in ?[/B][/quote]

Murph could move back to the Dline. Also Cooley has floated the idea of Kerrigan adding weight and moving to the Dline

Chico23231 03-21-2017 11:56 AM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1168444]again trade down unless OJ Howard or another great one slips. There will probably be a QB available, or Cook and there will be teams that want to move up. Forget Mich State DL... underachiever., who looks good on paper, not on the field. You have 4 possible OLB/pass rushers now, where would a 5th fit in ?[/quote]

IF Solomon Thomas not there:

1. Reuben Foster ILB
2. Brantly NT/DE
3. Mixon RB

Other scenarios Round 3 if Mixon is too much:

3. WR JuJu Smith-Schuster or C/Guard: Pat Elflein, Ohio State

Both are BPA discussions if there and starting material

Alvin Walton 03-21-2017 12:51 PM

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1. Malik McDowell - DT (can play edge also)
2. Budda Baker - S
3. Dalvin Tomlinson - DT (310 lbs, this our new nose)

Not knowing where Cravens will line up this year makes this a tough call.

Schneed10 03-21-2017 12:58 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1168450]1. Malik McDowell - DT (can play edge also)
2. Budda Baker - S
3. Dalvin Tomlinson - DT (310 lbs, this our new nose)

[B]Not knowing where Cravens will line up this year makes this a tough call.[/B][/quote]

Why are we unclear on that? The team stated at the end of the year they would be shifting him to safety.

Alvin Walton 03-21-2017 02:15 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1168451]Why are we unclear on that? The team stated at the end of the year they would be shifting him to safety.[/quote]

Usually the Redskins text me when they make a decision like that.
I must have missed that one.


So does that mean Swearinger and Cravens are our starters and we dont need a safety in the high rounds?

Schneed10 03-21-2017 03:17 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1168452]Usually the Redskins text me when they make a decision like that.
I must have missed that one.


So does that mean Swearinger and Cravens are our starters and we dont need a safety in the high rounds?[/quote]

Correct.

Though if they think a safety is BPA by a long shot I doubt they'd rule it out. Cravens could always resume the hybrid dime LB role. He'd still get on the field plenty even if he wasn't a starting safety in the base alignment.

sdskinsfan2001 03-21-2017 10:27 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1168456]Correct.

Though if they think a safety is BPA by a long shot I doubt they'd rule it out. Cravens could always resume the hybrid dime LB role. He'd still get on the field plenty even if he wasn't a starting safety in the base alignment.[/quote]

I still want a true 100% free safety like Hooker or Baker. We're not set at safety. But you can't force a pick if the value isn't there. If Baker falls to us in the 2nd round I hope we take him though.

Irrefutable 03-22-2017 12:13 AM

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[quote=SirLK26;1168446]Murph could move back to the Dline. Also Cooley has floated the idea of Kerrigan adding weight and moving to the Dline[/quote]

The Redskins already play some 4-3 defense and Kerrigan, Murphy, and Smith have played DE. I do not see any of them playing DT in a 3-4.

Meks 03-22-2017 04:39 AM

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[quote=Schneed10;1168451]Why are we unclear on that? The team stated at the end of the year they would be shifting him to safety.[/quote]

Cuz this team is unclear itself on what it wants to do. I firmly believe that and they prove it time and time again. I just really don't want a Devin Thomas Malcom Kelly Fred Davis type of draft again... funny. We could have had DJAX all along but no. Took Devin friggin Thomas instead. Still burns me up inside. Smh ahhhhh i have more faith in the drafting capabilities since Vinny left, but, prepare for the worst. Pray for the beSt with this team.

Alvin Walton 03-22-2017 09:36 AM

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If we are set at safety (yea right) then I'll go 1 & 2 Blue!

1. Taco Charlton - DE...Go Blue!
2. Chris Wormley - DT...Go Blue!
3. JuJu Smith-Schuster - WR

Schneed10 03-22-2017 10:13 AM

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Hey I have no problem if they end up taking a safety in the first three rounds, but this thread is all about your ideal first three rounds. To me that means you're aligning a fantastical version of BPA with need.

If I could come away with the perfect draft I wouldn't come away with a safety in the top 3 picks, I would come away with stud DT, MLB, and RB.

But we all know the perfect draft is wishful thinking, so if we get a shot at a good safety and end up with some depth back there we'd all be happy with that I think.

Alvin Walton 03-22-2017 10:21 AM

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I wanted to plug in a running back at #3 but Fournette and Cook will be gone.
None of the other backs give me warm fuzzys.

sdskinsfan2001 03-23-2017 04:34 AM

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I just want the draft to be here. Still have more than a month left. Ugh!

CRedskinsRule 03-23-2017 08:58 AM

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1168500]I just want the draft to be here. Still have more than a month left. Ugh![/QUOTE]
I hate the later date

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skinsfaninok 03-23-2017 07:13 PM

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Unless we can grab peppers at 17 or one of the stud DL guys fall (not happening) , I want to draft Cook. Can u imagine how scary this offense would be with a RB like him??

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diehardskin2982 03-25-2017 11:00 AM

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Round 1 Johnathon Allen or Round 1 Christian McCaffrey
Round 2 Malik McDowell or Round 2 TJ Watt
Round 3 Joe Mixon or Round 3 Montravius Adams

KI Skins Fan 03-25-2017 01:02 PM

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1. Reuben Foster, ILB Alabama
2. Caleb Brantley, DT Florida
3. Joe Mixon, RB Oklahoma

30gut 03-25-2017 05:32 PM

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Round 1) 17-Rueben Foster--Gareon Conley--Malik McDowell--Takk McKinley

Round 2) Carlos Watkins--Jarrad Davis--Adoree Jackson--Chidobe Awuzie

Round 3) Dalvin Tomlinson--Montravius Adams--Ahkello Witherspoon--Kevin King

Irrefutable 03-26-2017 09:30 PM

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Good stuff on possible draft picks....the most overrated

[url]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C74xe0yU8AAmGKt.jpg[/url]

skinsfaninok 03-26-2017 09:33 PM

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I think Cook is a good pick at 17, if you can run the ball the def wont be on the field much. Look at Dallas last yr

Bangee7 03-26-2017 10:03 PM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1168677]Good stuff on possible draft picks....the most overrated

[url]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C74xe0yU8AAmGKt.jpg[/url][/quote]

who was the author?

with the draft a month out, the smear campaigns begin. Separating fact from fiction needs to come into play with all articles at this point.

Irrefutable 03-26-2017 10:56 PM

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[quote=Bangee7;1168679]who was the author?

with the draft a month out, the smear campaigns begin. Separating fact from fiction needs to come into play with all articles at this point.[/quote]

some internet "expert" tweeting.....I do not consider health issues smears, or reports on game production

Alvin Walton 03-27-2017 12:26 PM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1168680]some internet "expert" tweeting.....I do not consider health issues smears, or reports on game production[/quote]

So that info could have come from Rosie O'Donnel or Cheech Marin for all we know?

Irrefutable 03-27-2017 01:02 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1168694]So that info could have come from Rosie O'Donnel or Cheech Marin for all we know?[/quote]

if you know anything about the draft you can tell it looks accurate

Bangee7 03-27-2017 07:54 PM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1168680]some internet "expert" tweeting.....I do not consider health issues smears, or reports on game production[/quote]

well, one "smear" that jumped out at me was about Chidobe Awuzie. To say he'll be drafted too high because he's the best on a [B][U]bad[/U][/B] team is a little demeaning. CU had a top 25 pass defense (#22 overall and he was a standout on the 4th rated pass efficiency team in the nation).

Chidobe is 6', 200 & runs a 4.43 forty

I found this on CBS Sports, which had him as the 37th best player overall... STRENGTHS: Lockdown corner and fluid athlete with terrific awareness for the position. Good closing speed and times his leaps well to break up receptions. Four-year starter with extensive experience coming out of the competitive Pac-12.
Note: btw, he lead the team in special team tackles (26) and was 2nd in 3rd down stops (17).

All of that sounds like a definite immediate impact player to me.


Another: [B]Ethan Pocic- "too tall to be a center, but [U]should be a solid guard, but that is an unknown[/U]".[/B] OK, isn't all of the draft an "unknown" until proven otherwise? The kid already played Guard for LSU, before moving to Center (per Walter Football). I think he also played Tackle at one point, but I can't find the exact article right now.

I guess I'm saying this internet expert's tweets are somewhat [B]Refutable[/B].

Alvin Walton 03-28-2017 07:06 AM

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Its pretty much meaningless without knowing who the author is.

30gut 03-28-2017 08:14 AM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1168696]if you know anything about the draft you can tell it looks accurate[/quote]

I usually don't kill the messenger for reports that get posted. But what you posted is nothing more than another draft media opinion piece; just someone else's perspective. That that person is very debateable and very much in doubt just like most of the stuff that you read about the draft around this time of year.

MTK 03-28-2017 08:40 AM

The Ideal First 3 Rounds Redskins Draft Picks
 
Source or it's not legit. Come on peeps.

Schneed10 03-28-2017 09:53 AM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1168677]Good stuff on possible draft picks....the most overrated

[url]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C74xe0yU8AAmGKt.jpg[/url][/quote]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

This is literally the most refutable thing ever posted on the WP.

mooby 03-28-2017 10:01 AM

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[quote=Schneed10;1168729]HAHAHAHAHAHA

This is literally the most refutable thing ever posted on the WP.[/quote]

We've narrowed down the source, it's one of approximately 7 bil people on planet earth.

Schneed10 03-28-2017 10:18 AM

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All I know is it's definitely not a professional, because who TF takes the time to color code the player names to match the school's colors??

Yeah I can see someone like Louis Riddick doing that. This is totally legit.

Irrefutable 03-28-2017 10:20 AM

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[quote=MTK;1168728]Source or it's not legit. Come on peeps.[/quote]

The source is irrelevant, it is someone's opinion. I get 10,000 tweets a day and could not locate the author after I copied it. Time will tell if the author is right. He will probably be just as accurate as half of the NFL GMs.

MTK 03-28-2017 10:46 AM

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His opinion is irrelevant too.

Irrefutable 03-28-2017 12:01 PM

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[quote=MTK;1168736]His opinion is irrelevant too.[/quote]

sure, as well as the fact that a potential draft pick has a history of being injured - the fact they disappeared in big games- etc


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