Clinton Portis, great human being, contemplated murder after NFL Career
 

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What a total, absolute, POS.

This guy, to me, has the rare distinction of i think symbolizing everything that has been right AND wrong with the redskins franchise.

Right in that we signed a healthy young player who was hungry and successful, and wrong when he kept skipping practices, not working out, but then expecting to play on Sunday, and demand a fat contract, much like his fat body that was 300 + pounds following his final season in the league.

I cannot discount what he did on the field for us but this guy is an absolute scumbag. I told you all years ago that to hear Portis talk on the television, it should have been obvious to all that he was not very intelligent. Because he was an idiot and made stupid decisions with his money, just like almost every other young athlete taken out of poverty by the NFL, he decided that murdering his manager / investor was the right thing to do.

Please tell me that he is not in the Redskins hall of fame, or anything like that. I am sorry. Rant over. Murdering, or even considering murdering innocent people is not okay.

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He lost his fortune, then instead of murdering someone he
should have killed himself.

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Was never the biggest fan of CP. He seemed to always throw not only his teammates, but also coaches under the bus. His nonsense was allowed to go on cause he had the owners ear. Oh well, at least he always played real hard. Can't deny CP that. When it was time to play he always came ready to play.

As far as his off the field issues, that's kind of his business. I'm sure if he had a chance to do things all over again he'd be much smarter with his money. With age comes wisdom. I can't even imagine the shit I would have done had I had millions in my pocket at 25. A lot of guys just aren't mature enough to handle that kind of money.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1171220]Was never the biggest fan of CP. He seemed to always throw not only his teammates, but also coaches under the bus. His nonsense was allowed to go on cause he had the owners ear. Oh well, at least he always played real hard. Can't deny CP that. When it was time to play he always came ready to play.

As far as his off the field issues, that's kind of his business. I'm sure if he had a chance to do things all over again he'd be much smarter with his money. With age comes wisdom. I can't even imagine the shit I would have done had I had millions in my pocket at 25. A lot of guys just aren't mature enough to handle that kind of money.[/quote]

Yes, i agree with your post 100%. Portis was a hell of a player, i've never said he wasnt.

I remember the game that Jim Zorn put in Sean Alexander because Portis was basically stinking it up at that point in his career. He was caught on tv saying "get the F out of my face" to Jim Zorn. Big deal at the time. Larry Michael even talked about it on his show. I always felt at the time that if he would have done that to Joe Gibbs, the entire team would have given him a blanket party... I had no love for him after that incident

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Well let's round up the opinions. One of you thinks he is a POS for even entertaining an idea, another one thinks he should have committed suicide. Me personally, I think both of those thoughts are as weak as Portis', and here's why.

SS, I know you're incapable of putting yourself in others' shoes, but I'll play this game anyways. Put yourself in Portis' shoes. After a life in which you parlayed your first two amazing seasons in the NFL into a trade to a team, a fanbase, and an ownership that loves you, alongside a big money deal which at the time was the largest ever for a running back in NFL history, a few years later your best friend is shot dead, life has changed as you know it (evidence being the happy-go-lucky spirit you once were is gone in favor of the sullen guy who's time in the NFL is coming to end, who's getting old in NFL years and has seen tragedy on a personal level the likes of which we will most likely never know). So you retire, and the next year (literally, one year later) you are broke, and your trusted financial advisors who ruined you are nowhere to be found. You went from being a semi-famous NFL player, with adoring fans, an owner who loves you, rags-to-riches, to a broke, retired, probably partially crippled from his playing days guy who nobody gives two shits about anymore who has also seen his friends and family die and his "trusted inner circle" disappear after the money dried up. What would you do? Keep in mind you're broke, and the guys who lost your money are never gonna see the inside of a prison for it. You know it's all downhill from here. You also grew up, like so many others, in a world where violence is justified daily as a means to an end. I know you, SS, don't know anything about the world (neither do I), so I say again. Put yourself in his shoes, what would you do? Not even do, what ideas would you entertain?

Then, you conveniently ignore the part where his mom talked him out of it, told him she doesn't care if she loses the purple house and the nice cars, that he needs to be a father to his kids and blah blah blah set the right example type shit and he snaps out of it. Starts turning his life around, declares bankruptcy, goes through the media laughingstock of his mom being one of his creditors, starts making money off personal appearances and media bs. But nah, instead of "wow, way for this broke black athlete to turn his life around after hitting rock bottom" it's "wow, Portis is a POS for harboring a bad idea."

Also, SFRedskin, I don't like you, and the concept that you think someone should kill themself after hitting rock bottom resonates with me as to the type of person you are. In the words of Chappelle "I hope all the bad things in life happen to you, and nobody else but you." Good day sir.

Also, one final thought. Make no mistake, I liked Portis as a player, and wish him luck as he finds himself in this world. With all this being said, I think he's a damn fool for wasting lots of money on houses, cars, women, trips around the world, and whatever else dumb purchases he made when he was rich. But that doesn't mean he deserves to be ripped off, the fact that he was investing money means he was trying to do well to set himself up for post-NFL life. I do think this whole experience has been quite the learning lesson for him, and I hope it all works out in the end, especially given the fact that it's most likely working out for those who took advantage of him. I'm also thankful for the fact that if he had followed through with his dumb plan, not only would it reflect poorly on him, it would also reflect poorly on the Redskins. And there's already plenty of that going on, so we don't need more.

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[quote=mooby;1171222]Well let's round up the opinions. One of you thinks he is a POS for even entertaining an idea, another one thinks he should have committed suicide. Me personally, I think both of those thoughts are as weak as Portis', and here's why.

SS, I know you're incapable of putting yourself in others' shoes, but I'll play this game anyways. Put yourself in Portis' shoes. After a life in which you parlayed your first two amazing seasons in the NFL into a trade to a team, a fanbase, and an ownership that loves you, alongside a big money deal which at the time was the largest ever for a running back in NFL history, a few years later your best friend is shot dead, life has changed as you know it (evidence being the happy-go-lucky spirit you once were is gone in favor of the sullen guy who's time in the NFL is coming to end, who's getting old in NFL years and has seen tragedy on a personal level the likes of which we will most likely never know). So you retire, and the next year (literally, one year later) you are broke, and your trusted financial advisors who ruined you are nowhere to be found. You went from being a semi-famous NFL player, with adoring fans, an owner who loves you, rags-to-riches, to a broke, retired, probably partially crippled from his playing days guy who nobody gives two shits about anymore who has also seen his friends and family die and his "trusted inner circle" disappear after the money dried up. What would you do? Keep in mind you're broke, and the guys who lost your money are never gonna see the inside of a prison for it. You know it's all downhill from here. You also grew up, like so many others, in a world where violence is justified daily as a means to an end. I know you, SS, don't know anything about the world (neither do I), so I say again. Put yourself in his shoes, what would you do? Not even do, what ideas would you entertain?

Then, you conveniently ignore the part where his mom talked him out of it, told him she doesn't care if she loses the purple house and the nice cars, that he needs to be a father to his kids and blah blah blah set the right example type shit and he snaps out of it. Starts turning his life around, declares bankruptcy, goes through the media laughingstock of his mom being one of his creditors, starts making money off personal appearances and media bs. But nah, instead of "wow, way for this broke black athlete to turn his life around after hitting rock bottom" it's "wow, Portis is a POS for harboring a bad idea."

Also, SFRedskin, I don't like you, and the concept that you think someone should kill themself after hitting rock bottom resonates with me as to the type of person you are. In the words of Chappelle "I hope all the bad things in life happen to you, and nobody else but you." Good day sir.

Also, one final thought. Make no mistake, I liked Portis as a player, and wish him luck as he finds himself in this world. With all this being said, I think he's a damn fool for wasting lots of money on houses, cars, women, trips around the world, and whatever else dumb purchases he made when he was rich. But that doesn't mean he deserves to be ripped off, the fact that he was investing money means he was trying to do well to set himself up for post-NFL life. I do think this whole experience has been quite the learning lesson for him, and I hope it all works out in the end, especially given the fact that it's most likely working out for those who took advantage of him. I'm also thankful for the fact that if he had followed through with his dumb plan, not only would it reflect poorly on him, it would also reflect poorly on the Redskins. And there's already plenty of that going on, so we don't need more.[/quote]

Hey Booby,

I meant he should have Killed himself instead of blaming other folks for his misfortunes and killing someone else. He is responsible for his own actions and I don't like you either, so go lick yourself boob!!

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Mooby, thank you for your post. I wholeheartedly agree.

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Mooby nails it

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1171224]Hey Booby,

I meant he should have Killed himself instead of blaming other folks for his misfortunes and killing someone else. He is responsible for his own actions and I don't like you either, so go lick yourself boob!![/quote]

This would hurt, if I cared what you said. Unfortunately I don't. Bye Felicia.

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[quote=mooby;1171229]This would hurt, if I cared what you said. Unfortunately I don't. Bye Felicia.[/quote]

That's so Kardashian of you. Zzzzzzz

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I was pretty turned off by this thread by the first couple of posts and planned on not participating but then Mooby saved it with some sanity.

Portis is an unintelligent person by any measure, and prone to making bad decisions based on emotional reactions. Is this really surprising to anybody, given what happened with his "investments"?

He got conned because he's an idiot. Should he kill himself or be written off as a deplorable human being? Seems ridiculous.

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I think its extremely troubling that the Player union, NFL approved financial advisors out committing fraud like this...its bullshit. Portis should be able to sue both.

Man, it sucks to hear about this happening to an all-time Skin. Sure he is too blame as well but its just a sad situation. Im glad he showed restrain and did the right thing. Everyone will go through terrible situations in their life time to time...keeping your head up will be tough. The last several months Ive had problems with a girl...I get down, but continue to wake up everyday saying it will get better. When I get mad, instead of straight merc'd someone, I just go to the media basis thread here and take it out on Giantone.

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[quote=mooby;1171222]Well let's round up the opinions. One of you thinks he is a POS for even entertaining an idea, another one thinks he should have committed suicide. Me personally, I think both of those thoughts are as weak as Portis', and here's why.

SS, I know you're incapable of putting yourself in others' shoes, but I'll play this game anyways. Put yourself in Portis' shoes. After a life in which you parlayed your first two amazing seasons in the NFL into a trade to a team, a fanbase, and an ownership that loves you, alongside a big money deal which at the time was the largest ever for a running back in NFL history, a few years later your best friend is shot dead, life has changed as you know it (evidence being the happy-go-lucky spirit you once were is gone in favor of the sullen guy who's time in the NFL is coming to end, who's getting old in NFL years and has seen tragedy on a personal level the likes of which we will most likely never know). So you retire, and the next year (literally, one year later) you are broke, and your trusted financial advisors who ruined you are nowhere to be found. You went from being a semi-famous NFL player, with adoring fans, an owner who loves you, rags-to-riches, to a broke, retired, probably partially crippled from his playing days guy who nobody gives two shits about anymore who has also seen his friends and family die and his "trusted inner circle" disappear after the money dried up. What would you do? Keep in mind you're broke, and the guys who lost your money are never gonna see the inside of a prison for it. You know it's all downhill from here. You also grew up, like so many others, in a world where violence is justified daily as a means to an end. I know you, SS, don't know anything about the world (neither do I), so I say again. Put yourself in his shoes, what would you do? Not even do, what ideas would you entertain?

Then, you conveniently ignore the part where his mom talked him out of it, told him she doesn't care if she loses the purple house and the nice cars, that he needs to be a father to his kids and blah blah blah set the right example type shit and he snaps out of it. Starts turning his life around, declares bankruptcy, goes through the media laughingstock of his mom being one of his creditors, starts making money off personal appearances and media bs. But nah, instead of "wow, way for this broke black athlete to turn his life around after hitting rock bottom" it's "wow, Portis is a POS for harboring a bad idea."

Also, SFRedskin, I don't like you, and the concept that you think someone should kill themself after hitting rock bottom resonates with me as to the type of person you are. In the words of Chappelle "I hope all the bad things in life happen to you, and nobody else but you." Good day sir.

Also, one final thought. Make no mistake, I liked Portis as a player, and wish him luck as he finds himself in this world. With all this being said, I think he's a damn fool for wasting lots of money on houses, cars, women, trips around the world, and whatever else dumb purchases he made when he was rich. But that doesn't mean he deserves to be ripped off, the fact that he was investing money means he was trying to do well to set himself up for post-NFL life. I do think this whole experience has been quite the learning lesson for him, and I hope it all works out in the end, especially given the fact that it's most likely working out for those who took advantage of him. I'm also thankful for the fact that if he had followed through with his dumb plan, not only would it reflect poorly on him, it would also reflect poorly on the Redskins. And there's already plenty of that going on, so we don't need more.[/quote]

Why do I have to get personally judged almost every time I post something? Like damn, we've all had tragedies in our lives. Most of us didn't resort to considering murder. Me? I had to find my uncle dead from suicide (gunshot), and later out of high school I was the passenger in a car being driven by my girlfriend. A drunk truck driver crossed the center line and hit us, killing her instantly. Even in the aftermath I never thought "I should go to his house and kill him, hopefully in front of his wife and children".

I seriously think anybody who would rationalize that considering murder is 100% okay in times of great stress is Effed up mentally. And if we are doing that on here, then we are F'd up. I'm done. I might come back to post when the Cousins situation plays itself out, but I'm honestly afraid of the "next" thing that people on here rationalize as ok. If murder is "ok", what comes next?

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1171233]Why do I have to get personally judged almost every time I post something? Like damn, we've all had tragedies in our lives. Most of us didn't resort to considering murder. Me? I had to find my uncle dead from suicide (gunshot), and later out of high school I was the passenger in a car being driven by my girlfriend. A drunk truck driver crossed the center line and hit us, killing her instantly. Even in the aftermath I never thought "I should go to his house and kill him, hopefully in front of his wife and children".

I seriously think anybody who would rationalize that considering murder is 100% okay in times of great stress is Effed up mentally. And if we are doing that on here, then we are F'd up. I'm done. I might come back to post when the Cousins situation plays itself out, but I'm honestly afraid of the "next" thing that people on here rationalize as ok. If murder is "ok", what comes next?[/quote]

Somehow you interpreted all this as "murder is OK". Setting aside your difficulties for which I sympathize, you're really not doing a good job of reading what is written.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1171233]Why do I have to get personally judged almost every time I post something? Like damn, we've all had tragedies in our lives. Most of us didn't resort to considering murder. Me? I had to find my uncle dead from suicide (gunshot), and later out of high school I was the passenger in a car being driven by my girlfriend. A drunk truck driver crossed the center line and hit us, killing her instantly. Even in the aftermath I never thought "I should go to his house and kill him, hopefully in front of his wife and children".

I seriously think anybody who would rationalize that considering murder is 100% okay in times of great stress is Effed up mentally. And if we are doing that on here, then we are F'd up. I'm done. I might come back to post when the Cousins situation plays itself out, but I'm honestly afraid of the "next" thing that people on here rationalize as ok. If murder is "ok", what comes next?[/quote]

Hey man, I'm sorry for your losses, and I couldn't understand what it's like to go through that. With that being said, I'm asking you to look at the situation from his perspective. Everybody has different perspectives on the same things. If you think that's me saying "murder is ok" then idk what to tell you. Also, I don't believe Portis thinks murder is ok either, given the fact he didn't follow through with the idea.

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I look at it as a man who went through adversity, grew from it and is a better person for it. I don't understand how people get so angry and throw hate. Not saying he is an angel, but I have no problem with people who acknowledge their mistakes and get better from them. I thought that is what all of us are supposed to do.

Loved CP when he played for us.

[YT][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErX6oZG7Gvs[/url][/YT]

Flat out baller

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[quote=Kope;1171236]I[B] look at it as a man who went through adversity, grew from it and is a better person for it.[/B] I don't understand how people get so angry and throw hate. Not saying he is an angel, but I have no problem with people who acknowledge their mistakes and get better from them. I thought that is what all of us are supposed to do.

Loved CP when he played for us.

[YT][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErX6oZG7Gvs[/url][/YT]

Flat out baller[/quote]

yes, great point.

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His story is kind of sad if you ask me. Yes he blew tons of money and only has himself to blame for that, but he was definitely taken advantage of and to hit such a low point where he was contemplating killing someone... that's pretty deep. Sad that some can't find some level of compassion for another person. I hope when you hit a low in your life someone is there to help rather than judge.

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i just do not why he just did not put the money in the bank and live off the intrest.i would lose my entoroguge when i had to pay their ways and bills.call me crazy,but come on guys.
did you lose your common sense somewhere on the way to the nfl?

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I didnt realize he had lost all his money and is now living in a 2 br apt,WOW
You'd think that as close as I heard he was to Dan that dan would hook him up better then that:D

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[quote=htownskinfan;1171241]I didnt realize he had lost all his money and is now living in a 2 br apt,WOW
You'd think that as close as I heard he was to Dan that dan would hook him up better then that:D[/quote]
he came out a few months ago that he was not broke,but had to cut back some.that was last i heard of it until this story came out.

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[quote=insane4theskinsi;1171240]i just do not why he just did not put the money in the bank and live off the intrest.i would lose my entoroguge when i had to pay their ways and bills.call me crazy,but come on guys.
did you lose your common sense somewhere on the way to the nfl?[/quote]


Believe it or not the NFL holds class's ,seminars for the rookies on how to invest their money and what to do and what not to do.I know we sit here and think how could you lose money like that and unfortunately it's an easy thing to do.Many lottery winners go bankrupt and lose their money.Managing money is a hard job.Very smart people lose money every day.

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[quote=Giantone;1171246]Believe it or not the NFL holds class's ,seminars for the rookies on how to invest their money and what to do and what not to do.I know we sit here and think how could you lose money like that and unfortunately it's an easy thing to do.Many lottery winners go bankrupt and lose their money.Managing money is a hard job.Very smart people lose money every day.[/quote]

It really isn't. Find one of the large companies that gives a broad portfolio and manages money for the masses and don't buy stupid stuff and someone would never have to work again. And their children would never have to work in Clinton's case.

Going to these small time managers who are "outperforming the market" and cater to the rich are scammers or using illegal means.

Listening to a con man who promises to earn 20% instead of settling for the market average over the long haul of 6 to 7% is greedy and stupid. That and not making stupid purchases are not hard at all.

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[quote=mooby;1171222]Well let's round up the opinions. One of you thinks he is a POS for even entertaining an idea, another one thinks he should have committed suicide. Me personally, I think both of those thoughts are as weak as Portis', and here's why.

SS, I know you're incapable of putting yourself in others' shoes, but I'll play this game anyways. Put yourself in Portis' shoes. After a life in which you parlayed your first two amazing seasons in the NFL into a trade to a team, a fanbase, and an ownership that loves you, alongside a big money deal which at the time was the largest ever for a running back in NFL history, a few years later your best friend is shot dead, life has changed as you know it (evidence being the happy-go-lucky spirit you once were is gone in favor of the sullen guy who's time in the NFL is coming to end, who's getting old in NFL years and has seen tragedy on a personal level the likes of which we will most likely never know). So you retire, and the next year (literally, one year later) you are broke, and your trusted financial advisors who ruined you are nowhere to be found. You went from being a semi-famous NFL player, with adoring fans, an owner who loves you, rags-to-riches, to a broke, retired, probably partially crippled from his playing days guy who nobody gives two shits about anymore who has also seen his friends and family die and his "trusted inner circle" disappear after the money dried up. What would you do? Keep in mind you're broke, and the guys who lost your money are never gonna see the inside of a prison for it. You know it's all downhill from here. You also grew up, like so many others, in a world where violence is justified daily as a means to an end. I know you, SS, don't know anything about the world (neither do I), so I say again. Put yourself in his shoes, what would you do? Not even do, what ideas would you entertain?

Then, you conveniently ignore the part where his mom talked him out of it, told him she doesn't care if she loses the purple house and the nice cars, that he needs to be a father to his kids and blah blah blah set the right example type shit and he snaps out of it. Starts turning his life around, declares bankruptcy, goes through the media laughingstock of his mom being one of his creditors, starts making money off personal appearances and media bs. But nah, instead of "wow, way for this broke black athlete to turn his life around after hitting rock bottom" it's "wow, Portis is a POS for harboring a bad idea."

Also, SFRedskin, I don't like you, and the concept that you think someone should kill themself after hitting rock bottom resonates with me as to the type of person you are. In the words of Chappelle "I hope all the bad things in life happen to you, and nobody else but you." Good day sir.

Also, one final thought. Make no mistake, I liked Portis as a player, and wish him luck as he finds himself in this world. With all this being said, I think he's a damn fool for wasting lots of money on houses, cars, women, trips around the world, and whatever else dumb purchases he made when he was rich. But that doesn't mean he deserves to be ripped off, the fact that he was investing money means he was trying to do well to set himself up for post-NFL life. I do think this whole experience has been quite the learning lesson for him, and I hope it all works out in the end, especially given the fact that it's most likely working out for those who took advantage of him. I'm also thankful for the fact that if he had followed through with his dumb plan, not only would it reflect poorly on him, it would also reflect poorly on the Redskins. And there's already plenty of that going on, so we don't need more.[/quote]

Any post, no matter how long, that references Chappelle's Show gets a like. HTTCS.

"I don't like you". Lol, pretty funny.

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If you have money, or even if you have none, there will be at least one scumbag out there that wants to take it all. Athletes with no prior experience with wealth can be easy targets. These stories suck, even if it happens to a Cowboys player.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1171260] even if it happens to a Cowboys player.[/quote]

lets not lose perspective here..

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[quote=Kope;1171262]lets not lose perspective here..[/quote]

Haha, yeah my bad.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1171222]Well let's round up the opinions. One of you thinks he is a POS for even entertaining an idea, another one thinks he should have committed suicide. Me personally, I think both of those thoughts are as weak as Portis', and here's why.

SS, I know you're incapable of putting yourself in others' shoes, but I'll play this game anyways. Put yourself in Portis' shoes. After a life in which you parlayed your first two amazing seasons in the NFL into a trade to a team, a fanbase, and an ownership that loves you, alongside a big money deal which at the time was the largest ever for a running back in NFL history, a few years later your best friend is shot dead, life has changed as you know it (evidence being the happy-go-lucky spirit you once were is gone in favor of the sullen guy who's time in the NFL is coming to end, who's getting old in NFL years and has seen tragedy on a personal level the likes of which we will most likely never know). So you retire, and the next year (literally, one year later) you are broke, and your trusted financial advisors who ruined you are nowhere to be found. You went from being a semi-famous NFL player, with adoring fans, an owner who loves you, rags-to-riches, to a broke, retired, probably partially crippled from his playing days guy who nobody gives two shits about anymore who has also seen his friends and family die and his "trusted inner circle" disappear after the money dried up. What would you do? Keep in mind you're broke, and the guys who lost your money are never gonna see the inside of a prison for it. You know it's all downhill from here. You also grew up, like so many others, in a world where violence is justified daily as a means to an end. I know you, SS, don't know anything about the world (neither do I), so I say again. Put yourself in his shoes, what would you do? Not even do, what ideas would you entertain?

Then, you conveniently ignore the part where his mom talked him out of it, told him she doesn't care if she loses the purple house and the nice cars, that he needs to be a father to his kids and blah blah blah set the right example type shit and he snaps out of it. Starts turning his life around, declares bankruptcy, goes through the media laughingstock of his mom being one of his creditors, starts making money off personal appearances and media bs. But nah, instead of "wow, way for this broke black athlete to turn his life around after hitting rock bottom" it's "wow, Portis is a POS for harboring a bad idea."

Also, SFRedskin, I don't like you, and the concept that you think someone should kill themself after hitting rock bottom resonates with me as to the type of person you are. In the words of Chappelle "I hope all the bad things in life happen to you, and nobody else but you." Good day sir.

Also, one final thought. Make no mistake, I liked Portis as a player, and wish him luck as he finds himself in this world. With all this being said, I think he's a damn fool for wasting lots of money on houses, cars, women, trips around the world, and whatever else dumb purchases he made when he was rich. But that doesn't mean he deserves to be ripped off, the fact that he was investing money means he was trying to do well to set himself up for post-NFL life. I do think this whole experience has been quite the learning lesson for him, and I hope it all works out in the end, especially given the fact that it's most likely working out for those who took advantage of him. I'm also thankful for the fact that if he had followed through with his dumb plan, not only would it reflect poorly on him, it would also reflect poorly on the Redskins. And there's already plenty of that going on, so we don't need more.[/QUOTE]Mooby, I solute you! [emoji106] [emoji122]

I completely whole heartily agree with everything that you said!

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Re: Clinton Portis, great human being, contemplated murder after NFL Career
 

[quote=Giantone;1171246]Believe it or not the NFL holds class's ,seminars for the rookies on how to invest their money and what to do and what not to do.I know we sit here and think how could you lose money like that and unfortunately it's an easy thing to do.Many lottery winners go bankrupt and lose their money.Managing money is a hard job.Very smart people lose money every day.[/quote]

obviously,they need to teach it to veterans.portis is not the only redskin this happened to,the same thing happened a few years ago to mark brunnell,which is why he stayed inthe league so long.

Re: Clinton Portis, great human being, contemplated murder after NFL Career
 

[quote=DYoungJelly;1171253]It really isn't. Find one of the large companies that gives a broad portfolio and manages money for the masses and don't buy stupid stuff and someone would never have to work again. And their children would never have to work in Clinton's case.

Going to these small time managers who are "outperforming the market" and cater to the rich are scammers or using illegal means.

Listening to a con man who promises to earn 20% instead of settling for the market average over the long haul of 6 to 7% is greedy and stupid. That and not making stupid purchases are not hard at all.[/quote]


Actually for many athletes it is,it really is.As I said before and I understand what you are saying ,to many it seems a no brainer on how to invest big money,especially when it's not their own money.Many of these young men want to take care of the people that took care of them growing up,they always believe there will be another big payday .

Re: Clinton Portis, great human being, contemplated murder after NFL Career
 

[quote=insane4theskinsi;1171276]obviously,they need to teach it to veterans.portis is not the only redskin this happened to,the same thing happened a few years ago to mark brunnell,which is why he stayed inthe league so long.[/quote]

Veterans know it all already,some just don't listen.

Re: Clinton Portis, great human being, contemplated murder after NFL Career
 

I echo the sentiments that you have to be a moron to lose this much money.

I don't know about the rest of you guys but we covered basic budgeting and the differences between savings accounts, bonds, stocks, mutual funds, all that stuff in high school.

Every adult should know there are safe vehicles to park your money. Once you've "made it", where someone has given you millions to sign a contract to play football, you should be looking to protect that nest egg, not put it at risk.

Assessing risk is just a matter of basic common sense. Sure it happens to veterans and rookies alike but I still think you have to be an idiot to let it happen to you.

Re: Clinton Portis, great human being, contemplated murder after NFL Career
 

[quote=Schneed10;1171279]I echo the sentiments that you have to be a moron to lose this much money.

I don't know about the rest of you guys but we covered basic budgeting and the differences between savings accounts, bonds, stocks, mutual funds, all that stuff in high school.

Every adult should know there are safe vehicles to park your money. Once you've "made it", where someone has given you millions to sign a contract to play football, you should be looking to protect that nest egg, not put it at risk.

Assessing risk is just a matter of basic common sense. Sure it happens to veterans and rookies alike but I still think you have to be an idiot to let it happen to you.[/quote]

I'm guessing that you come from a background different from Portis. It's easy for YOU to say this when you grew up on a different side of the railroads tracks then a lot of these guys. You can't put yourself in someone's shoes until you're actually in them.

I'm guessing you don't think Joe Gibbs is an idiot but he put himself and his family in a terrible situation as well.

Re: Clinton Portis, great human being, contemplated murder after NFL Career
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1171280]I'm guessing that you come from a background different from Portis. It's easy for YOU to say this when you grew up on a different side of the railroads tracks then a lot of these guys. You can't put yourself in someone's shoes until you're actually in them.

I'm guessing you don't think Joe Gibbs is an idiot but he put himself and his family in a terrible situation as well.[/quote]

But there's a major difference between Gibbs and Portis, and you know it. Portis exposed his money to major downside risk after he was done playing. Meaning the golden goose was dead, he couldn't go back to the NFL to earn another big pay day, his prime was gone. He had a nest egg built up, and no significant skills to fall back on. Yet still exposed his money to great risk.

Gibbs was not in that position - as a coach he always knew he could get another head coaching job when he wanted. And proved it, by the way.

But I hear your point - the background matters. His lack of foresight here points to a) few strong role models in his life who showed him how to think critically and b) a straight up lack of intelligence that hampered his ability to do so independently. But at the same time, Portis went to college. He got tutored so he could stay eligible. He's been exposed to some smart people and no doubt has gotten strong guidance along the way, including advice made available through the NFL and NFLPA. Given those resources available to him I have a hard time understanding how he let this happen to him.

Re: Clinton Portis, great human being, contemplated murder after NFL Career
 

Ultimately if I was given enormous amounts of money in my early 20s I think the impacts of my parents and how I raised would have blunted the impact of losing large amounts of wealth.

But I can say easily without that, I would have lived the rick James life in the Chappell show with about 50 baby mamas and cocaine would still be a hellavu drug.

Re: Clinton Portis, great human being, contemplated murder after NFL Career
 

People from all walks of life make mistakes when it comes to money.

Re: Clinton Portis, great human being, contemplated murder after NFL Career
 

[quote=Schneed10;1171281]But there's a major difference between Gibbs and Portis, and you know it. Portis exposed his money to major downside risk after he was done playing. Meaning the golden goose was dead, he couldn't go back to the NFL to earn another big pay day, his prime was gone. He had a nest egg built up, and no significant skills to fall back on. Yet still exposed his money to great risk.

Gibbs was not in that position - as a coach he always knew he could get another head coaching job when he wanted. And proved it, by the way.

But I hear your point - the background matters. His lack of foresight here points to a) few strong role models in his life who showed him how to think critically and b) a straight up lack of intelligence that hampered his ability to do so independently. But at the same time, Portis went to college. He got tutored so he could stay eligible. He's been exposed to some smart people and no doubt has gotten strong guidance along the way, including advice made available through the NFL and NFLPA. Given those resources available to him I have a hard time understanding how he let this happen to him.[/quote]


As Matty said people from all different walks of life have made mistakes with money.You make it sound like just becuase he went to college he should have known better and I must correct you.I know a Rhodes scholar that went bankrupt.Wall street is full of dead bodies of people that should have known better what to do with their own money.

Re: Clinton Portis, great human being, contemplated murder after NFL Career
 

If you have 10 million bucks and put it in a 1% savings account thats 100k in interest. Way more than i make in a year and very livable.

I don't get why athletes all feel the need to invest. Sit on that shit. Or at least a huge chunk of it.

Re: Clinton Portis, great human being, contemplated murder after NFL Career
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1171292]If you have 10 million bucks and put it in a 1% savings account thats 100k in interest. Way more than i make in a year and very livable.

I don't get why athletes all feel the need to invest. Sit on that shit. Or at least a huge chunk of it.[/quote]

Many feel the need to help the people that help them achieve their goals,it's not hard to understand.Most professional athletes have a agent, manager,accountant,wife,kids,mother or grandmother or father they are taking care of and $100,000 grand won't cut it.Not hard to understand at all.

Re: Clinton Portis, great human being, contemplated murder after NFL Career
 

Yes it is. It's very hard for me to understand. If you can understand it then you might be the idiot.