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Anyone think we can pull this one out?

I'm sure they'll be more Cards fans than skins fans at Fedex.

AZ is basically out of the hunt so I don't see a huge game from them.

I think Jay has the guys fired up to play for jobs this week but we still go down due to the lack of playmakers.

Cards 28
Skins 23

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1183130]Anyone think we can pull this one out?

I'm sure they'll be more Cards fans than skins fans at Fedex.

AZ is basically out of the hunt so I don't see a huge game from them.

I think Jay has the guys fired up to play for jobs this week but we still go down due to the lack of playmakers.

Cards 28
Skins 23[/quote]

Go Cardinals!!!

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Hard to get hyped for this one.
Didn't see the Cards play this year, statswise they're average.

Winnable game, it'll come down to can Gruden fire the guys up to fight for their/his job(s).

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1183232]Hard to get hyped for this one.
Didn't see the Cards play this year, statswise they're average.

Winnable game, it'll come down to can Gruden fire the guys up to fight for their/his job(s).

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I'll be at a work Xmas event for the 2nd half, I'll check some of the 1st half but yeah hard to get up for the rest of the season

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We can’t lose to Blaine Gabbert

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The local television ratings for Washington’s blowout loss to the Chargers on Sunday afternoon were shockingly low, certainly among the lowest for any game in the Daniel Snyder era. Washington’s 30-13 defeat earned an 11.8 household rating in the D.C. market. That put it barely ahead of the 11.5 rating earned by the simultaneous Rams-Eagles game, a thrilling barn burner between two appealing teams.

That isn’t the worst of it. During Sunday’s 1 p.m. window, the Giants-Cowboys game on Fox earned a 14.4 rating in the D.C. market. Later that night, the Steelers-Ravens game on NBC’s “Sunday Night Football” earned a 16.2 rating in the D.C. market. And Monday night, the Patriots-Dolphins game earned an 11.1 rating in the D.C. market.
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2017/12/13/this-is-the-scariest-number-for-the-redskins/?utm_term=.f44b329c69ae[/url]

Just not a fun watch. You know Kirk is gone. I dont like seeing Trent and Morgan out there hobbling around subjecting themselves to crap. Defense cant stop the run so opposing teams just take their 4-6 yards.

Single biggest factor for me not watching (I will though) .. i dont want to see Trent and Morgan going through what they are going through. It makes it worse somehow. Depressing.

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[quote=MTK;1183234]We can’t lose to Blaine Gabbert[/quote]

You know damn well he's going to have 300 yards and 3 tds man lol just be ready for it

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The cardinals OL is hurting just like ours, 3rd string QB and backup RB. If Gruden loses the next 3 games then he deserves to be fired.

[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/arizona-cardinals/post/_/id/28655/jared-veldheer-earl-watford-injuries-force-cardinals-to-revamp-o-line-again]Jared Veldheer, Earl Watford injuries force Cardinals to revamp O-line - Arizona Cardinals Blog- ESPN[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1183240]The cardinals OL is hurting just like ours, 3rd string QB and backup RB. If Gruden loses the next 3 games then he deserves, then he deserves to be fired.

[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/arizona-cardinals/post/_/id/28655/jared-veldheer-earl-watford-injuries-force-cardinals-to-revamp-o-line-again]Jared Veldheer, Earl Watford injuries force Cardinals to revamp O-line - Arizona Cardinals Blog- ESPN[/url][/quote]

Wait! Backup OL???? That means RK will have 2 or 3 sacks in another meaningless late season game.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1183233]I'll be at a work Xmas event for the 2nd half, I'll check some of the 1st half but yeah hard to get up for the rest of the season[/QUOTE]I'll watch. But it feels like preseason now, evaluating players individually for next year more than actuallly cheering for anything...

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[quote=MTK;1183234]We can’t lose to Blaine Gabbert[/quote]

you had to jinx it

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i dont expect much, i may not even watch. Sick of this shit.

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I felt like Gruden made some comments in his presser suggesting that we may be sitting some guys. I think his exact quote was "We will look at it and see who we are playing against Arizona".

Does anyone know if the skins are for sure eliminated from playoff chances even if we go 8-8? If we are, I wonder if Gruden rests Kirk Cousins for the remainder of the year so he doesn't risk a bad injury behind our makeshift O-line. But if he did that i would think that would imply some kind of commitment to Kirk? Is it wishful thinking?

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1183285]I felt like Gruden made some comments in his presser suggesting that we may be sitting some guys. I think his exact quote was "We will look at it and see who we are playing against Arizona".

Does anyone know if the skins are for sure eliminated from playoff chances even if we go 8-8? If we are, I wonder if Gruden rests Kirk Cousins for the remainder of the year so he doesn't risk a bad injury behind our makeshift O-line. But if he did that i would think that would imply some kind of commitment to Kirk? Is it wishful thinking?[/quote]

Yes the skins are done. It sucks because the best thing that can actually happen is that we don't win another game but I'm guessing the skins go 3-0.

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[QUOTE=Back2RFK;1183286]Yes the skins are done. It sucks because the best thing that can actually happen is that we don't win another game but I'm guessing the skins go 3-0.[/QUOTE]We will be favored in all 3 games so that means we'll probably lose

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[quote=MTK;1183234]We can’t lose to Blaine Gabbert[/quote]

I have to second that from Chico! If we play like we did on Thanksgiving we will smoke them, if we play like we have the past two games it is a toss up. Kirk does need to end the season with some solid games. I know you think I jumped the gun saying he won't get what he wants based on his past two sinker, but if he adds 2 more, it just might affect his asking price a bit since the draft is QB rich. Most of the teams in the league are in the same situation as us. They do need a good QB, but have a subpar roster. If the league does really increase the cap like I have read, there will be no problem signing Kirk if the FO really wants him or he wants us. We could sign him and get some decent players back. He just needs the tools to be effective. He is working with jack s#$@ now. And that is my whole point about being wary of signing him. If they really jack up the cap, no problem, if they don't then do you sign him knowing we still might have a subpar roster for him to work with?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1183241]Wait! Backup OL???? That means RK will have 2 or 3 sacks in another meaningless late season game.[/quote]

He is a very good player who you don't appreciate for some reason. I do.

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My buddy is a Broncos fan, after they won, I text him Go Donkeys!

His response verbatim "Fucking up the draft."

That's how I feel, winning now is harmful.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1183297]My buddy is a Broncos fan, after they won, I text him Go Donkeys!

His response verbatim "Fucking up the draft."

That's how I feel, [B]winning now is harmful[/B].[/quote]

Vince Lombardi would have been so proud of you!

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1183295]He is a very good player who you don't appreciate for some reason. I do.[/QUOTE]He is indeed a very good player but he's not that effective against the run and he's a one trick poney pass rusher.
I just feel like with his physical abilities he could be a real playmaker but seems to be satisfied with being a very good player... yes he's good but we could legitimately expect better out of him.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1183295]He is a very good player who you don't appreciate for some reason. I do.[/quote]

I don't hate RK, he is a good player but the Shawn Michaels celebration needs to go away after every sack, and he is only good against bad Lines. That isn't saying I dont appreciate him, it's saying he really isn't effective 50% of the time. He is also bad against the run.

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Some stats/info from Cooley and Kevin ...

Cards are 0-4 when losing turn over battle
Cards are 4-0 when scoring 20 pts or more
Cards are with out both Tackles and a Guard
Cards are on their 3rd string QB (Palmer, Stanton now Gabbert) and RB (Johnson, Peterson now ???)

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Put me in the "I hope we lose" camp ... im conflicted but I think Jay is decent so I feel like I have to choose a better draft position or Jay.

Putting us in best position to draft the best possible Cousins replacement is most important to me.

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[quote=over the mountain;1183305]Some stats/info from Cooley and Kevin ...

Cards are 0-4 when losing turn over battle
Cards are 4-0 when scoring 20 pts or more
Cards are with out both Tackles and a Guard
Cards are on their 3rd string QB (Palmer, Stanton now Gabbert) and RB (Johnson, Peterson now ???)

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Put me in the "I hope we lose" camp ... im conflicted but I think Jay is decent so I feel like I have to choose a better draft position or Jay.

Putting us in best position to draft the best possible Cousins replacement is most important to me.[/quote]


And I bet we still lose somehow, I'm telling you it's the life of a skins fan

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1183303]I don't hate RK, he is a good player but the Shawn Michaels celebration needs to go away after every sack, and he is only good against bad Lines. That isn't saying I dont appreciate him, it's saying he really isn't effective 50% of the time. He is also bad against the run.[/quote]

He gets held on every play and it gets called about 20% of the time.

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[quote=metalskins;1183309]He gets held on every play and it gets called about 20% of the time.[/quote]

It's because he doesn't sell it like others do, and it's not the same ref crew so maybe it's really not a hold? They aren't calling it for a reason.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1183310]It's because he doesn't sell it like others do, and it's not the same ref crew so maybe it's really not a hold? They aren't calling it for a reason.[/quote]

I dunno. I mean the guy gets put in a half-nelson on almost every play. I've seen guys have him hooked around his shoulder, in front of the refs, and no flags. On the other side, one of our linemen will crop dust the rusher and out comes the yellow hanky!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1183310]It's because he doesn't sell it like others do, and it's not the same ref crew so maybe it's really not a hold? They aren't calling it for a reason.[/quote]

Why do you pick out a good player like RK to get all over when he is working hard and being as productive as he is capable of being?

This type of thinking is a pet peeve of mine. It's the recurring question of "Why Can't This Good Player be a Great Player?". It's because he has peaked as a good player, that's why. He has worked very hard but will never be a great player. He is just a good player who is available every single week and I think that's fine.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1183315]Why do you pick out a good player like RK to get all over when he is working hard and being as productive as he is capable of being?

This type of thinking is a pet peeve of mine. It's the recurring question of "Why Can't This Good Player be a Great Player?". It's because he has peaked as a good player, that's why. He has worked very hard but will never be a great player. He is just a good player who is available every single week and I think that's fine.[/quote]

Not picking on him, I'm just saying he rarely makes a play when you really need that play. He's a good player and yes he works his butt off. I think Matt brought up one certain time he made a game clinching sack, I can't think of any others. He seems to vanish against good teams.

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I saw a red bird perched on a tree branch when I was little. I threw a rock at it.

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Kerrigan is a good player, but somewhat limited. Him always being available to dress is incredibly valuable. Worth the 13th or so draft pick he was imo.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1183285]I felt like Gruden made some comments in his presser suggesting that we may be sitting some guys. I think his exact quote was "We will look at it and see who we are playing against Arizona".

Does anyone know if the skins are for sure eliminated from playoff chances even if we go 8-8? If we are, I wonder if Gruden rests Kirk Cousins for the remainder of the year so he doesn't risk a bad injury behind our makeshift O-line. But if he did that i would think that would imply some kind of commitment to Kirk? Is it wishful thinking?[/quote]

I'm pretty sure we're mathematically eliminated from the PO race.

I think you bring up a really good point: if Jay is confident he'll be here next year, and they're going to be able to sign Kirk, yeah I say sit Kirk, Trent and Moses.
But I'm not sure Jay is in position to do that, he would need a lot of confidence in himself and the support the FO would give him.

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Zach brown is out
Monte also

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1183323]Zach brown is out
Monte also[/quote]

Per [url]https://www.rotowire.com/football/latestnews.htm[/url] :

"Brown ([B]illness/toe/Achilles/hip[/B]) has been ruled out for Sunday's game against the Cardinals."

Ok pal I think it's enough, you can stay home... sucks though.

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Me thinks the Redskins will pull off a win...28 to 24 over the Cardinals.

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Ill suggest the Elephant in the Room that everyone is wondering in the back of their minds:

If we suffer another 30 point loss, could Gruden be fired after the game? I'm hearing a lot of chatter on Twitter and stuff that Dan is not happy with Jay right now and another humiliating defeat could push him (Dan) over the edge.

I think it would be best if they know Jay is gone, to wait until the end of the season. Whether Jay is good or bad as a HC he is a man and he deserves his dignity. I don't think it is the same situation that the Giants were in...

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I never once thought about jay being fired this year. We will win the next three and go 8-8. It will screw our draft but everything will be fine. We will fire the defensive coaching staff and bring in the Cincinnati staff.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1183335]I never once thought about jay being fired this year. We will win the next three and go 8-8. It will screw our draft but everything will be fine. We will fire the defensive coaching staff and bring in the Cincinnati staff.[/quote]

And what has the Bengals defense done better than what we got?

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Can't answer that one. Jay wanted Guenther last year, Greg is a stop gap. Now we have two people in the secondary chirping they were not prepared for two games. The NO late game melt down last week are the final nails in the coffen.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1183337]Can't answer that one. Jay wanted Guenther last year, Greg is a stop gap. Now we have two people in the secondary chirping they were not prepared for two games. The NO late game melt down last week are the final nails in the coffen.[/quote]

If he brings anything from Cincy (exception, AJ Green) then fire his ass.

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$6 to go to the game Sunday, cheaper than a beer.

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Hopkins activated and Rose released