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skinsfaninok 03-14-2018 10:10 AM

ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
Time for a new AS thread, the other was filled with YOU KNOW WHO talk.

This one needs to be all about #11 and the future of the Redskins.

[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35929/with-alex-smith-redskins-move-on-from-class-of-2012-qb-drama]With Alex Smith, Washington Redskins move on from 2012 QB drama - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

Good article here

Glad we have moved on from those guys and that drama filled draft yr and years.

HTTR. Lets go ALEX!

JoeRedskin 03-14-2018 10:29 AM

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I will say, the QB diva drama (both the RGIII and Capt. Kirk versions) really exhausted me as a fan. I have been a die-hard for nearly 40 years and the last few have just beaten me down. I just have a hard time being excited about them anymore when, for the longest time, I lived and breathed B&G all year round.

I welcome Alex Smith and just want to be excited about the Skins again.

skinsfaninok 03-14-2018 10:30 AM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1190513]I will say, the QB diva drama (both the RGIII and Capt. Kirk versions) really exhausted me as a fan. I have been a die-hard for nearly 40 years and the last few have just beaten me down. I just have a hard time being excited about them anymore when, for the longest time, I lived and breathed B&G all year round.

I welcome Alex Smith and just want to be excited about the Skins again.[/quote]

Alex won't be a guy that WOW's us and he probably won't have any 400 yard pass games but he will WIN games for us. That is all I care about.

So far so good.

CRedskinsRule 03-14-2018 11:09 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1190506]Time for a new AS thread, the other was filled with YOU KNOW WHO talk.

This one needs to be all about #11 and the future of the Redskins.

[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35929/with-alex-smith-redskins-move-on-from-class-of-2012-qb-drama]With Alex Smith, Washington Redskins move on from 2012 QB drama - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

Good article here

Glad we have moved on from those guys and that drama filled draft yr and years.

HTTR. Lets go ALEX![/quote]
The drama gave us 2 NFC East championships, I will try hard to remember that from the past 5 years.

BUT YES -

Smith wants a ring, and I believe (full tilt koolaid) he is going to get one here. As draining as the past 5 years was for fans, the players and FO had to experience that too.

Smith's letter to the Chiefs fans was good stuff about his teammates, and I think guys like TW and the Sherriff will eat it up. Richardson, Doctson and Crowder will also find a qb that is working with them and for them. (no old qb commentary only looking forward to the positives).

I want to see a dominant DL player in the draft. We have other needs, but we have to stuff the run, and a young hungry player is what you need.

I also wish Snyder would upgrade the field. Who knows how related it is, but I think that the poor turf adds to our yearly injury count.

HTTR!!

metalskins 03-14-2018 11:10 AM

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Isn't it funny that us Redskins fans have craved a solid starting QB for years, and then we finally get RGIII and Kirk Cousins - RGIII having a great first year, Cousins having three top notch years as a starter, we have to deal with some form of drama that sours us on these guys, lol?

That being said, Alex Smith seems to be the consummate pro. He's excited about playing in Washington, and he's proven to put teams in the post season. He's not a social media guy - man, I love that! He just wants to play football. And I think in a town where the sports media will try their best to either build you up or tear you down, the fact that Smith separates himself from all the media drama will be a much welcomed thing.

I want Smith to do his talking on the field, and in the past couple of seasons, he has really taken it up a level. I think Jay Gruden will do him some good.

skinsfaninok 03-14-2018 11:21 AM

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^ Good post by both of u guys and I agree with both. I love that AS doesn't do the BS tweets and IG post daily (drama wise) and I compare him to a Steve Young, he was in the shadow of Joe for years until he won his ring and earned the respect. Alex is in the shadow of AROD due to being drafted 1 and way ahead of Rodgers. Smith can earn that respect and go down as one of the better QB's if he wins that ring.

Schneed10 03-14-2018 01:26 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1190514]Alex won't be a guy that WOW's us and he probably won't have any 400 yard pass games but he will WIN games for us. That is all I care about.[/quote]

Yeah the stat sheet only tells part of the story. It's the clutch escape of pressure on 3rd and 7 when he escapes what looks like a sure sack, and runs 8 yards for a first down, where we'll all go 'oh yeah, that's what we were missing.'

He finds ways to keep drives alive, and manages to avoid turning the ball over to the other team. That's why I hate looking at passer rating and other stats. You don't see the value of all those scrambles for first downs, and the value of the turnovers avoided.

Though I do think he'll get his fair share of stats here in Washington. Gruden's scheme deserves a lot of praise.

skinsfaninok 03-14-2018 01:29 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1190577]Yeah the stat sheet only tells part of the story. It's the clutch escape of pressure on 3rd and 7 when he escapes what looks like a sure sack, and runs 8 yards for a first down, where we'll all go 'oh yeah, that's what we were missing.'

He finds ways to keep drives alive, and manages to avoid turning the ball over to the other team. That's why I hate looking at passer rating and other stats. You don't see the value of all those scrambles for first downs, and the value of the turnovers avoided.

Though I do think he'll get his fair share of stats here in Washington. Gruden's scheme deserves a lot of praise.[/quote]

I do think we will see him have 3500 Yards or so and I'd imagine around 25 Td's but like u said the key stat is TURNOVERS and I bet he has less than 10 INTs again. That is what matters and those crucial INT's in close games.

MTK 03-14-2018 02:04 PM

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Can’t wait until we can bad mouth Smith as he leaves town in 3-4 years lol

Barring a SB win you just know it’s going to happen

Schneed10 03-14-2018 02:12 PM

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I guess some are bad mouthing Cousins. For me personally, I'm appreciating that he was the best we've had since Brad Johnson, while at the same time recognizing that I don't think he could have won a SB for us, especially not when making mid $20sM plus.

But you're right, if Smith doesn't get us that ring, I'll probably end up saying he was good but not good enough.

skinsfaninok 03-14-2018 02:13 PM

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Smith will get us that ring we are all starved for including himself.

metalskins 03-14-2018 02:19 PM

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I'm not badmouthing "he that shall not be named in this thread". I loved having him here and he brought us some joy. But, enough of him. Onto Alex. And yes, if Alex fizzles out, are we supposed to say nothing but great things about him?

CRedskinsRule 03-14-2018 02:24 PM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1190601]Can’t wait until we can bad mouth Smith as he leaves town in 3-4 years lol

Barring a SB win you just know it’s going to happen[/QUOTE]You really believe the old qb was committed to the Skins? No need to answer.

Who knows how Smith will do, but nothing in his history would imply he will set himself above the franchise or be a drama queen. Skins fans are justifiably jaded about QBs and after 20+ years it would be nice to have a FO, staff and players all in agreement and moving forward. I think we now have that, and we will see good things, but if Smith leaves in 4 years and we have been stuck at 500 with another coaching change then yeah Smith may get the same level of frustration at his departure.

MTK 03-14-2018 02:42 PM

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People always find something to gripe about, that’s all I’m saying

#56fanatic 03-14-2018 03:41 PM

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LOL - you know it will happen here.

a lot of people here trash guys that leave the team, regardless of the reasons.
funny thing is - haven't seen any Breeland bashing yet?
I'll get to see him get burned on the regular here in Carolina!

#56fanatic 03-14-2018 03:55 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1190609]You really believe the old qb was committed to the Skins? No need to answer.

Who knows how Smith will do, but nothing in his history would imply he will set himself above the franchise or be a drama queen. Skins fans are justifiably jaded about QBs and after 20+ years it would be nice to have a FO, staff and players all in agreement and moving forward. I think we now have that, and we will see good things, but if Smith leaves in 4 years and we have been stuck at 500 with another coaching change then yeah Smith may get the same level of frustration at his departure.[/quote]



We let a QB price himself out of what we thought he was worth by poor front office decisions. What makes you think this front office will do better over the next 20 years?

these ass clowns haven't been able to field a consistant winning team in 20 years. And the common denominator in the equation are the same ass clowns you think will turn this team around. I am hopeful, but trying to remain realistic at the same time.

CRedskinsRule 03-14-2018 04:14 PM

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic;1190649]We let a QB price himself out of what we thought he was worth by poor front office decisions. What makes you think this front office will do better over the next 20 years?

these ass clowns haven't been able to field a consistant winning team in 20 years. And the common denominator in the equation are the same ass clowns you think will turn this team around. I am hopeful, but trying to remain realistic at the same time.[/QUOTE]

The FO has gone through progressions. We aren't in a Cerrato Zorn period, or a Shanahan Allen one either. They have been watchful of the free agents, but not gone crazy for 1st day overpays. I don't agree with every move, but we have made good moves the past 2 to 3 years and now that we have a stable QB cap solution I expect they will solidify the other positions appropriately.

Calling the FO assclowns pretty much contradicts your last line.

skinsfaninok 03-14-2018 04:18 PM

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"Nothing else matters" Alex Smith when asked about winning a SB.

Ruhskins 03-14-2018 04:21 PM

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Alex Smith!!!

[url]https://twitter.com/Redskins/status/974014824706461697[/url]

Ruhskins 03-14-2018 04:23 PM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35935/jay-gruden-alex-smiths-mobility-can-help-change-offense]Jay Gruden: Alex Smith's mobility can help change offense - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

skinsfaninok 03-14-2018 04:27 PM

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYRmbn3XcAA47_8.jpg:large[/IMG]

skinsfaninok 03-14-2018 04:39 PM

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Bill Polian just said Alex Smith would have gotten more money than any QB ever if he'd hit the open market this year. Agree?

CRedskinsRule 03-14-2018 05:03 PM

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from OTC
[QUOTE]Alex Smith Contract and Salary Cap Page
Alex Smith
Quarterback


2018 Salary Cap Charge: $17,000,000
% of 2018 Team Cap: 9.51%
2018 Cash Payout: $17,000,000
% of 2018 Team Cash Spending: 12.94%
2018 Cash to Cap Ratio: 1.00
Total Contract Value: $68,000,000
Annual Contract Value: $17,000,000
Position Ranking: 14/77 at QB
Fully Guaranteed Money: $19,000,000
Age: 33
Height: 6' 4"
Weight: 217
College: Utah
Accrued Seasons: 16
Entry: 2005 Draft, Round 1, #1 overall (49ers)
Year Signed: 2014
Contract Type: Extension
Free Agency: 2019 (UFA)[/QUOTE]

sdskinsfan2001 03-14-2018 05:25 PM

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You can tell he's just a legit good dude. Glad to have him. HTTR!

MTK 03-14-2018 07:08 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1190669]Bill Polian just said Alex Smith would have gotten more money than any QB ever if he'd hit the open market this year. Agree?[/quote]

I kind of doubt it

SolidSnake84 03-14-2018 09:35 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1190669]Bill Polian just said Alex Smith would have gotten more money than any QB ever if he'd hit the open market this year. Agree?[/quote]

I don't think so. I mean anything is possible, but even Cousins didn't get what the "experts" felt he would get, which was $30 million a year. Cousins and Smith are very similar.

Schneed10 03-14-2018 10:36 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1190671]from OTC[/quote]

To be clear, all of that information pertains to the deal he signed in 2014 with KC. He will count $17M on our cap this year, because the last year of his KC deal comes over to us.

Next year, in 2019, his new extension will kick in.

CRedskinsRule 03-14-2018 10:41 PM

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1190693]To be clear, all of that information pertains to the deal he signed in 2014 with KC. He will count $17M on our cap this year, because the last year of his KC deal comes over to us.

Next year, in 2019, his new extension will kick in.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I thought it looked incomplete.

Number44 03-15-2018 12:26 AM

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I'm guessing Smith won't take a knee on the two yard line with seconds left in the half and no time outs. Loved Kirk, but Alex Smith strikes me as a winner.

DYoungJelly 03-15-2018 11:21 AM

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[quote=Number44;1190700]I'm guessing Smith won't take a knee on the two yard line with seconds left in the half and no time outs. Loved Kirk, but Alex Smith strikes me as a winner.[/quote]

I had totally forgotten about that!

Kirk is a really good qb and I wish we would have signed him way back when.

There was frustration from Jay with Kirk not slinging it down field like Rex used to.

I do really wonder how many brain farts like the kneel down happened within the offense that fans would never pick up on.

skinsfaninok 03-15-2018 11:23 AM

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[quote=Number44;1190700]I'm guessing Smith won't take a knee on the two yard line with seconds left in the half and no time outs. Loved Kirk, but Alex Smith strikes me as a winner.[/quote]

Luckily we won that game or else he would have been a sanchez like joke

calia 03-15-2018 02:56 PM

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Alex Smith is a quality person. I think he still lives out here in the Bay Area (from his days at SF). Last summer, I was standing in line in this small market where I live, and I realized that he was standing in front of me waiting to check out. The woman at the register recognized him, and started gushing. He was incredibly gracious, smiled, thanked her, and signed an autograph for her. Then when a number of other employees queued up asked for autographs, he turned to me and said, "Why don't you check our first? I don't want to hold you up. Sorry about that."

A few of the folks that work there had clearly met him before, and he remembered a few names. He was genuine and just a total class act.

In terms of character, I think there's no better role model in the NFL.

skinsfaninok 03-15-2018 07:07 PM

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Alex Smith and his wife Liz, shook the hands of every redskins employee after his press conference. According to JPFinley.

skinsfaninok 03-15-2018 07:08 PM

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btw His wife is smokin

sdskinsfan2001 03-15-2018 07:41 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1190834]btw His wife is smokin[/quote]

Was there any chance she wasn't going to be? Lol.

skinsfaninok 03-15-2018 07:43 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1190840]Was there any chance she wasn't going to be? Lol.[/quote]

RG3's new wife looks like a little kid so yeah. lol

sdskinsfan2001 03-15-2018 07:45 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1190841]RG3's new wife looks like a little kid so yeah. lol[/quote]

Alex Smith is better than RG3 at many things.

MTK 03-15-2018 08:12 PM

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1190843]Alex Smith is better than RG3 at many things.[/QUOTE]


Yeah being a good human

Giantone 03-15-2018 08:37 PM

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[quote=MTK;1190846]Yeah being a good human[/quote]




I saw the press conference and he seems like an good guy and he will do his best. The Redskins did a nice job in getting away from a sticky QB situation and as we all know that is not an easy thing to do in the NFL.

MTK 03-16-2018 07:16 AM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1190833]Alex Smith and his wife Liz, shook the hands of every redskins employee after his press conference. According to JPFinley.[/QUOTE]


Classy guy no doubt


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