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30gut 04-16-2018 11:54 AM

Dez Bryant?
 
Thoughts on Dez Bryant......

Chico23231 04-16-2018 12:02 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
Vet min

Ruhskins 04-16-2018 12:10 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
[quote=30gut;1192526]Thoughts on Dez Bryant......[/quote]

Lots of thoughts on here already: [url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/64093-around-nfl-free-agent-signings-2018-a-25.html[/url]

skinsfan69 04-16-2018 12:13 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
We already invested funds in Richardson and a 1st rounder in Doc. Plus Crowder and Reed. How would he fit in? He'd get 2 catches and would be crying like a bitch on the sidelines. Not be a good fit.

Chico23231 04-16-2018 12:17 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
seriously,

1. Not a no 1
2. Dallas has allowed him to do whatever he wants and he's said he hasn't put in the work like he should. No work ethic
3. Locker Room problem and embodies the WR prim donna stereotype
4. The fall statically was dramatic. Big red flag.
5. He will try to demand 10 mill per...you have to be retarded to give this guy 10 mill

mooby 04-16-2018 12:39 PM

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Pass

CRedskinsRule 04-16-2018 12:39 PM

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Pass

BigHairedAristocrat 04-16-2018 01:14 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
Who?


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metalskins 04-16-2018 01:18 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
My thoughts? He used to play for the Dallas Cowboys as a wide receiver. Other than that, pretty much it from my mind.

skinsfaninok 04-16-2018 01:21 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
If we could get him for a good price, it may be worth it. I don't have time to look at the numbers I researched over the weekend but he was much better than we all thought, much of his decline has been due to Dak. For folks saying he wont take Josh's spot, is Josh the number 1? He sure didn't play like it last yr.. You can never have enough weapons on the offense, esp in Jay's system. Overall I don't think we will pay him, we have gone really cheap as of late.

Giantone 04-16-2018 01:37 PM

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I put it this way if the Skins pick up DZB then all the bitching about Odell goes out the window.

metalskins 04-16-2018 02:13 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
I'd rather sign Hankins first.

30gut 04-16-2018 02:31 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1192528]Lots of thoughts on here already: [url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/64093-around-nfl-free-agent-signings-2018-a-25.html[/url][/quote]Ah, didnt see this.

Anyhow, would welcome Dez at the right number.
Definitely see a fit for the player he his right now.
I see a Garcon like fit in Jays offen and a RZ threat.
Motivated Dez + Alex Smith + Jay's scheme

skinsfaninok 04-16-2018 03:01 PM

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Dallas offense was boring as hell last yr, it appears that wont change in 2018. Yuck reminds me of the JC era here

skinsfan69 04-16-2018 04:17 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1192530]seriously,

1. Not a no 1
2. Dallas has allowed him to do whatever he wants and he's said he hasn't put in the work like he should. No work ethic
3. Locker Room problem and embodies the WR prim donna stereotype
4. The fall statically was dramatic. Big red flag.
5. He will try to demand 10 mill per...you have to be retarded to give this guy 10 mill[/quote]

And w/ all that stuff he is still better than anyone on our roster. lol. Personally I think Dez needs to be in a strict organization like the Pats. It wouldn't work here. All the bitching and moaning I feel was based partly on Prescott not getting him the ball. From what I saw when we played them he was pissing on our DB's and Prescott wouldn't throw it to him. If he had a better QB I feel his numbers would still be #1 type of production or close to it.

punch it in 04-16-2018 07:07 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
[QUOTE=30gut;1192526]Thoughts on Dez Bryant......[/QUOTE]



Who the eff wants an aging injured ex cowboy diva. God no.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-16-2018 07:13 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
I would rather drink toilet water from a gas station

Chico23231 04-16-2018 08:40 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
[url=http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2018/04/why_dez_bryant_says_he_wants_to_play_for_the_giant.html]Why ex-Cowboys WR Dez Bryant says he wants to play for the Giants | NJ.com[/url]

I’m praying for this to happen. Please lil baby Jesus make this come true.

I like the picture they put on the article...dez having a tickle fight odb jr. Perfect

MTK 04-16-2018 09:13 PM

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Nope

30gut 04-16-2018 09:35 PM

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And here I thought improving the roster was a good thing, guess not

SFREDSKIN 04-16-2018 09:44 PM

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Don’t need an egomaniac asshole on the team, PASS!!

Chico23231 04-17-2018 08:51 AM

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[quote=30gut;1192566]And here I thought improving the roster was a good thing, guess not[/quote]

emotional immature guy who would be the would be the veteran WR presence in the locker room....what could go wrong? Risk and the money it would tie up wouldn't be worth it imo.

Its just the wrong move for this team, but more importantly, at this time. We need to find out about Doctson...this is the make or break imo. Are you a starter or a back up?

skinsfaninok 04-17-2018 09:19 AM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
Everyone thought the same about JNO too, remember all the Panther fans that said "He' is a cancer" Jay seems to be a guy that can level these players heads some, I think it's due to him being a players coach.

MTK 04-17-2018 09:51 AM

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The stuff about him being a cancer is a little overblown, still, I think we’ve got other more pressing needs to address

30gut 04-17-2018 10:08 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1192569]Everyone thought the same about JNO too, remember all the Panther fans that said "He' is a cancer" Jay seems to be a guy that can level these players heads some, I think it's due to him being a players coach.[/quote]True enough.

I also think relying on media third party opinion on players isn't l accurate.

Imho perception, especially sports media perceptions, don't carry much weight with me. The opinions could be true or they could be false. I'm not at a vantage point to know.

I do know that even in Dez 'down' year he's still would be the best on this team.

Chico23231 04-17-2018 10:35 AM

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Going after an out of prime WR, not NO. 1 WR, while not have a starting LG or NT on the roster would be completely incompetent.

30gut 04-17-2018 10:37 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1192576]Going after an out of prime WR, not NO. 1 WR, while not have a starting LG or NT on the roster would be completely incompetent.[/quote]Only if you think doing 1 thing precludes the other.

simbosargos75 04-17-2018 11:22 AM

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[quote=Giantone;1192544]I put it this way if the Skins pick up DZB then all the bitching about Odell goes out the window.[/quote]

Yeah, that's not how it works. Beckham is a douchebag regardless of who Dez signs with.

Also, just say no to Dez please. He's a giant gaping asshole.

CRedskinsRule 04-17-2018 11:31 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1192576]Going after an out of prime WR, not NO. 1 WR, while not have a starting LG or NT on the roster would be completely incompetent.[/quote]

We are getting the LG and NT from the draft, if we don't then that's incompetent. If you had said picking up Dez instead of CJ Anderson, I might have followed your logic, but getting a WR whose career might be resurrected in our offense with PR, Crowder and ?Reed, isn't an incompetent move in and of itself.

Ways it could be incompetent:
Refusing to look at Anderson
Paying over 7-9M without considerable guarantees
Bringing at a reasonable price but touting him as our new #1

So far I don't see any signs of them doing those things.

Giantone 04-17-2018 11:49 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1192564][url=http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2018/04/why_dez_bryant_says_he_wants_to_play_for_the_giant.html]Why ex-Cowboys WR Dez Bryant says he wants to play for the Giants | NJ.com[/url]

I’m praying for this to happen. Please lil baby Jesus make this come true.

I like the picture they put on the article...dez having a tickle fight odb jr. Perfect[/quote]

NO,no,no,no,no,noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!:banghead:

30gut 04-17-2018 12:06 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
For me it's simple.

Does adding Dez improve the team?

The answer seems pretty clear to me given that even his production in a down year playing in a decidedly run first offense would still make him the best receiver on the team.

simbosargos75 04-17-2018 12:45 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
[quote=30gut;1192588]For me it's simple.

Does adding Dez improve the team?

The answer seems pretty clear to me given that even his production in a down year playing in a decidedly run first offense would still make him the best receiver on the team.[/quote]

Could that money be used better elsewhere though? I'd personally think Hankins has a much bigger impact for us than Dez does, relative to their replacements.

Chico23231 04-17-2018 01:54 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
[quote=simbosargos75;1192594]Could that money be used better elsewhere though? I'd personally think Hankins has a much bigger impact for us than Dez does, relative to their replacements.[/quote]

We coulda resigned Ryan Grant with that money. :laughing2

by the way Ryan Grant just caught another 3 yard pass when we needed 4 yards for the first down.

JoeRedskin 04-17-2018 02:02 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
[quote=30gut;1192588]For me it's simple.

Does adding Dez improve the team?

The answer seems pretty clear to me given that even his production in a down year playing in a decidedly run first offense would still make him the best receiver on the team.[/quote]

The only real comparisons to me are Doctson and PR- Crowder is more of a slot receiver and Reed is, well, not a WR. So the question "Will adding Dez for a year improve the team" has to be viewed, IMHO, in light of the current non-slot WR's on the team. In light of that, I don't think Dez at this stage brings any upside, whereas, that the Skins are betting both Doctson and PR do.

Unless Dez is willing to come in as a potential 3rd WR with a prove it contract, I think he would cost too much, bring too little to the table and retard Doctson's growth.

So, no, I do not think he will improve the team.

Meks 04-17-2018 02:02 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
i wouldnt pay too much to add another clown that brightens up a slowly but surely fading circus.

Giantone 04-17-2018 04:59 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1192564][url=http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2018/04/why_dez_bryant_says_he_wants_to_play_for_the_giant.html]Why ex-Cowboys WR Dez Bryant says he wants to play for the Giants | NJ.com[/url]

I’m praying for this to happen. Please lil baby Jesus make this come true.

I like the picture they put on the article...dez having a tickle fight odb jr. Perfect[/quote]

Nope,...........................yes!


[url]https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2018/04/14/new-york-giants-not-interested-in-dez-bryant/[/url]

sdskinsfan2001 04-17-2018 07:00 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
Dez Bryant got his own thread??? Wowsers.

30gut 04-17-2018 08:13 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1192597]The only real comparisons to me are Doctson and PR- Crowder is more of a slot receiver and Reed is, well, not a WR. So the question "Will adding Dez for a year improve the team" has to be viewed, IMHO, in light of the current non-slot WR's on the team. In light of that, I don't think Dez at this stage brings any upside, whereas, that the Skins are betting both Doctson and PR do.

Unless Dez is willing to come in as a potential 3rd WR with a prove it contract, I think he would cost too much, bring too little to the table and retard Doctson's growth.

So, no, I do not think he will improve the team.[/quote]Maybe its just me but your sure seems to have to go through a lot of mental gymnastics to arrive at the conclusion that 69 catches -838 yards-12.1 avg-6 tds in a "down year" in a run 1st offense doesn't help this passing team.

Defensewins 04-17-2018 08:20 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
Fuck no

JoeRedskin 04-17-2018 09:46 PM

Re: Dez Bryant?
 
[QUOTE=30gut;1192606]Maybe its just me but your sure seems to have to go through a lot of mental gymnastics to arrive at the conclusion that 69 catches -838 yards-12.1 avg-6 tds in a "down year" in a run 1st offense doesn't help this passing team.[/QUOTE]How about this, he isn't the player he once was, he won't match those numbers where ever he goes, and he is a head case. Plus, the guys we have have a better upside and signing him will likely come at price that could cost a good young homegrown player in the near future.

So no, he will not improve the team.

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