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sdskinsfan2001 11-19-2018 12:54 PM

Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
This injury changes everything. No way we can go into next year with just Colt and Alex. I imagine Alex will at minimum start on the PUP.

So then that leaves us drafting a QB. We would have to then keep him on the active roster even if Alex is ready to play, otherwise another team could poach him and effectively we would draft a QB for another team. That means we have 3 QBs and that shortens the roster at another position on game day. And I'm not really high on any of the QBs in the draft. This just all around sucks.

Alex - Get your leg right. Fuck football for right now. Just do whatever is best that assures quality of life for after football. Once that is taken care of, back to football. See you next year.

5superbowls3wins 11-19-2018 12:57 PM

Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1208335]This injury changes everything. No way we can go into next year with just Colt and Alex. I imagine Alex will at minimum start on the PUP.



So then that leaves us drafting a QB. We would have to then keep him on the active roster even if Alex is ready to play, otherwise another team could poach him and effectively we would draft a QB for another team. That means we have 3 QBs and that shortens the roster at another position on game day. And I'm not really high on any of the QBs in the draft. This just all around sucks.



Alex - Get your leg right. Fuck football for right now. Just do whatever is best that assures quality of life for after football. Once that is taken care of, back to football. See you next year.[/QUOTE]



The question I keep asking myself; what IF (and that’s a big IF) Colt plays at a high level, runs the offense high octane, and gets us deep into the playoffs?

Sure, we still need to draft someone, but does Gruden give the team back to Smith if McCoy plays at a high level?


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sdskinsfan2001 11-19-2018 12:59 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=5superbowls3wins;1208336]The question I keep asking myself; what IF (and that’s a big IF) Colt plays at a high level, runs the offense high octane, and gets us deep into the playoffs?

Sure, we still need to draft someone, but does Gruden the team back to Smith if McCoy plays at a high level?


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That's a better problem to have than my worry that Colt is small, older, and already injury prone. We have to have a legit backup option in place going into 2019 just in case Alex isn't ready and Colt gets banged up.

5superbowls3wins 11-19-2018 01:01 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1208337]That's a better problem to have than my worry that Colt is small, older, and already injury prone. We have to have a legit backup option in place going into 2019 just in case Alex isn't ready and Colt gets banged up.[/QUOTE]



And then who do we draft? Trade up to take Herbert?


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redskins forever 11-19-2018 01:02 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
I like colt if your scenario is true stick with what's winning

If hes really about what's best for the team then he will stick with colt a develop some younger talent. Remember if colt hadn't gotten injured a few years back the redskins would have probably let kirk walk with no problem cause he did get benched and colt won that game then beat Dallas right after that

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Chico23231 11-19-2018 01:03 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
I have zero clue if Alex is gonna be ready to play football next year...He needs to be practicing with the team because he was fairly poor passing the ball this year.

Once I know how long until he can get on the field...I don't have answer.

One thing I do know is we need to draft someone with the ability to play football in the NFL. Not some late round, udfa garbage either.

sdskinsfan2001 11-19-2018 01:04 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=5superbowls3wins;1208338]And then who do we draft? Trade up to take Herbert?


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No way, not trading up for any QBs in this draft in the 1st round. There are a few guys that could be options. The NC State QB, the Duke QB, Northwestern QB. I'd have to watch more of them but no one stands out as a sure thing. Bad draft to need a QB.

Tennskinsfan 11-19-2018 01:20 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
I like Ryan Finley out of NC State in this draft in the 3rd. He hasn’t faced the toughest defenses in his college career but his play has been solid and consistent quality passer that can manage the game. I don’t see a need to trade up this year for QB with little long term upside.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2018 01:44 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
The chances of CM leading this team to a playoff win are very low, even getting to the playoffs are tough. Colt McCoy is a career backup for a reason folks, the team would not have traded for AS if they really believed in him. So yes they need to address QB first thing BUT this is a down year for QB's in the draft.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2018 01:48 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
There is no Free agents either so we may be fucked

Ruhskins 11-19-2018 01:51 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1208353]There is no Free agents either so we may be fucked[/quote]

Teddy Bridgewater is probably the best out next year's free agency crop.

Chico23231 11-19-2018 01:51 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
Alex Smith looked closed to being done...now with this injury he probably is done.

We need to accept this fact...lotta folks on this board need too.

Chico23231 11-19-2018 01:52 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1208354]Teddy Bridgewater is probably the best out next year's free agency crop.[/quote]

I wouldn't mind it at all. He's probably better than AS now.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2018 01:53 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
I have no interest in Teddy unless its at a vet min. He wasn't good when he played so after 3 years I don't see much from him. I agree Chico, AS is done as the starter in WSH. I just don't see how he will be ready to play and start by 2019.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2018 01:55 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
Trade for Jacoby Brisett. He's not bad but other than that it looks bad folks.

Maybe Joe Flacco will be the guy

Ruhskins 11-19-2018 01:57 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=Chico23231;1208355]Alex Smith looked closed to being done...now with this injury he probably is done.

We need to accept this fact...lotta folks on this board need too.[/quote]

So you'd want to star over with a new QB next year, even if we make the playoffs?

I can understand if the team just falls off the cliff, but that hasn't happened.

Think about this:
- The core of the current defense is likely to come back next year.
- Guice will come back next year.
- You can get better receivers next year through the draft or see how some of the current young receivers work out.
- You can draft a project QB and see what happens.

I just don't think any FA QB can come in and be successful, as people want it, right away.

Granted, this could all change if Alex decides to hang it up.

MTK 11-19-2018 02:34 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
This isn't a great draft class to be in need of a QB.

That said we still have 6 games to go in this season, maybe more.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2018 02:47 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1208360]So you'd want to star over with a new QB next year, even if we make the playoffs?

I can understand if the team just falls off the cliff, but that hasn't happened.

Think about this:
- The core of the current defense is likely to come back next year.
- Guice will come back next year.
- You can get better receivers next year through the draft or see how some of the current young receivers work out.
- You can draft a project QB and see what happens.

I just don't think any FA QB can come in and be successful, as people want it, right away.

Granted, this could all change if Alex decides to hang it up.[/quote]

Yes even if we make the playoffs i don't want CM as QB1 going into next season.

MTK 11-19-2018 02:50 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
What if Colt plays well? We're getting way ahead of things from tossing dirt on Alex to thinking Colt can't be the starter heading into 2019. Pump the brakes folks.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2018 02:51 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=MTK;1208375]What if Colt plays well? We're getting way ahead of things from tossing dirt on Alex to thinking Colt can't be the starter heading into 2019. Pump the brakes folks.[/quote]

If he plays lights out and we win the division then maybe so but I just don't think that will happen. We will find out in 3 days

skinsfan69 11-19-2018 02:53 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=MTK;1208372][B]This isn't a great draft class to be in need of a QB.
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That said we still have 6 games to go in this season, maybe more.[/quote]

Says who? I see a few guys out there that have serious credentials.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2018 02:54 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1208380]Says who? I see a few guys out there that have serious credentials.[/quote]

Grier and Herbert are the top 2

Chico23231 11-19-2018 02:58 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
I personally wouldn’t mind seeing teddy bridgewater and drafting a young guy.

5superbowls3wins 11-19-2018 03:01 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
I’d go all in on Herbert


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mredskins 11-19-2018 03:02 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
Dereck Carr? Paging Jon Gurden

jamf 11-19-2018 03:03 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1208357]I have no interest in Teddy unless its at a vet min. He wasn't good when he played so after 3 years I don't see much from him. I agree Chico, AS is done as the starter in WSH. I just don't see how he will be ready to play and start by 2019.[/quote]

You guys with your vet minimums.

Teddy is coming back from a horrific injury a few years ago.
Also, the Saints are grooming him to replace Brees in a couple of years.

Basically, he isn't coming to DC.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2018 03:06 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=jamf;1208386]You guys with your vet minimums.

Teddy is coming back from a horrific injury a few years ago.
Also, the Saints are grooming him to replace Brees in a couple of years.

Basically, he isn't coming to DC.[/quote]

Nah Hill is replacing Brees, Teddy is actually the 3rd stringer to be honest

skinsfaninok 11-19-2018 03:07 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=mredskins;1208385]Dereck Carr? Paging Jon Gurden[/quote]

I'd take Carr, he's better than he looks this yr. I don't see them trading him though

MTK 11-19-2018 03:08 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1208380]Says who? I see a few guys out there that have serious credentials.[/QUOTE]


Says pretty much every draft expert, I haven’t seen anyone that’s high on this class

skinsfan69 11-19-2018 03:09 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
Whether Smith got hurt or not, whether Colt plays well or not, we simply need to draft a QB in the first 3 rounds of the draft. Period.

We'll need to keep 3 on the roster. Always have a young QB in the building developing. IMO should have kept Sudfeld, especially w/ the Cousins situation. Another fuck up by the FO.

For the pro Smith crowd, what the hell did you see that tells you that he's worthy of being a starter going forward? He was hesitant and jumpy in the pocket. The offense is too stagnant and we have to go on long drives to score. No big play ability at all. We're too easy to defend, no one respects his arm. He can be a pricey backup for a couple years.

And last, Bruce needs to be fired ASAP. He has mismanaged the QB's, starting w/ McNabb, Rg3, Cousins and now Smith. Move on from him now please.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2018 03:15 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1208390]Whether Smith got hurt or not, whether Colt plays well or not, we simply need to draft a QB in the first 3 rounds of the draft. Period.

We'll need to keep 3 on the roster. Always have a young QB in the building developing. IMO should have kept Sudfeld, especially w/ the Cousins situation. Another fuck up by the FO.

For the pro Smith crowd, what the hell did you see that tells you that he's worthy of being a starter going forward? He was hesitant and jumpy in the pocket. The offense is too stagnant and we have to go on long drives to score. No big play ability at all. We're too easy to defend, no one respects his arm. He can be a pricey backup for a couple years.

[B]And last, Bruce needs to be fired ASAP. He has mismanaged the QB's, starting w/ McNabb, Rg3, Cousins and now Smith. Move on from him now please.[/quote]
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Bruce is awful at QB evaluations. That is painfully obvious.

5superbowls3wins 11-19-2018 03:17 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1208392][/B]





Bruce is awful at QB evaluations. That is painfully obvious.[/QUOTE]



Since when did Bruce ever become qualified or competent to evaluate quarterbacks? He shouldn’t be making personnel decisions. The guy is a dope.


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skinsfan69 11-19-2018 03:18 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=MTK;1208389]Says pretty much [B]every draft expert,[/B] I haven’t seen anyone that’s high on this class[/quote]

lol... there is no such thing because they all miss badly on players all the time. I see at least 3 guys that are every bit as good as Cousins was at Mich State. Maybe even better.

jamf 11-19-2018 03:18 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=MTK;1208375]What if Colt plays well? We're getting way ahead of things from tossing dirt on Alex to thinking Colt can't be the starter heading into 2019. Pump the brakes folks.[/quote]

Exactly.

This doesn't change anything.
They still need to find a franchise QB for the long term but do we expect anyone to start day 1?

You know what a young QB needs? WRs and TEs!
This team seriously needs some juice at the skill positions.

Our WRs aren't giving us any YAC.

Chico23231 11-19-2018 03:21 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
^And don't forget toss dirt on buttfumble either...im sure he can still shit the bed with the rest of them.


Folks, we need a young QB on the roster now. Its not good.

skinsfan69 11-19-2018 03:22 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1208387]Nah Hill is replacing Brees, Teddy is actually the 3rd stringer to be honest[/quote]

Th Saints traded a 3rd rounder for Bridgewater, he's staying on the roster. Either as a future starter or a backup.

Chico23231 11-19-2018 03:27 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1208398]Th Saints traded a 3rd rounder for Bridgewater, he's staying on the roster. Either as a future starter or a backup.[/quote]

Just wait til they hear Bruce's offer. A 2nd round pick, and your choice of top young defensive talent.

Ruhskins 11-19-2018 03:45 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
Unless the teams falls off the cliff and loses out, Colt lights it up like Nick Foles, or he decides to retire, the team is going with Alex next year. That doesn't mean that the team cannot draft a young QB to groom behind Alex.

I know people want to write Alex off, but name me another FA QB that has worked out this year? Ironically, Kirk Cousins has gone to a much more talented team, and still has roughly the same record that we have (technically ours is better). Casey Keenum hasn't lit it up in Denver either.

And are people willing to write Alex off after just 10 games? Shit, how many years did we wait for Cousins to make this a winning team? If the team gave Kirk two years are 40+ mil, I'm willing to give Alex more than 10 games.

I'm not justifying or defending Alex's bad performances this year, but what other option do we have?

sdskinsfan2001 11-19-2018 04:10 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
If Alex was completely cleared to play, I'd be fine with going into 2019 with Alex and Colt again. But with this injury, there is just no way we'll know if Alex will be ready to play week 1 by the time the draft rolls around. I don't want Colt as QB1, a JAG as QB2, and Alex on the PUP to start the season. So I think we have to draft a guy. The question is how high to me.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2018 04:13 PM

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1208406]If Alex was completely cleared to play, I'd be fine with going into year with Alex and Colt again. But with this injury, there is just no way we'll know if Alex will be ready to play week 1 by the time the draft rolls around. I don't want Colt as QB1, a JAG as QB2, and Alex on the PUP to start the season. So I think we have to draft a guy. The question is how high to me.[/quote]

Long ways away as others have said but its def something to worry about


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