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You probably can pencil this guy in for DPOY again.


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This is what I was talking about in the other thread. These are the game changers you pay (or even overpay) big money for. If you gave me the option of having him and McCoy as your starting QB for 26 mil (23+3) in cap figure or one Alex Smith for 23 million. It's a no brainer. Not even fucking remotely close. Why overpay for marginal talent? Teams need to stop overpaying for average, and set aside the big money for real game changers.

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The market for QBs set the pay rate. QB is the most important position on the field and there aren't that many good ones to go around. As for your man above a stud pass rusher is almost in the same class as an elite QB. They make the whole defense better. What Alex Smith was paid isn't even considered big money for a QB anymore.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1208633]The market for QBs set the pay rate. QB is the most important position on the field and there aren't that many good ones to go around. As for your man above a stud pass rusher is almost in the same class as an elite QB. They make the whole defense better. What Alex Smith was paid isn't even considered big money for a QB anymore.[/quote]

I realize his pay isn't in the higher echelon of QB pay but it's close and it really shouldn't be. I would not pay it. Not when I can get about the same amount of production from a journey man or stop gap QB. Teams are finding out fast that overpaying QBs isn't the way to go. Texans, Jaguars, Bears to name a couple right off the back that have immediately regretted the contracts they signed. The market is set by bad owners and general managers. There should be a huge pay gap between an elite QB (or any other position) and an average one. Guys like Alex Smith should be paid what he was in KC. About 17mil/yr. which is something close to what Bortles is getting. Bortles shouldn't even be getting the average pay.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1208629]You probably can pencil this guy in for DPOY again.




This is what I was talking about in the other thread. These are the game changers you pay (or even overpay) big money for. If you gave me the option of having him and McCoy as your starting QB for 26 mil (23+3) in cap figure or one Alex Smith for 23 million. It's a no brainer. Not even fucking remotely close. Why overpay for marginal talent? Teams need to stop overpaying for average, and set aside the big money for real game changers.[/quote]


Add Khalil Mack and the Bears into this. They put a solid team around Mitch Trubisky and it's working out.

You just gotta make sure the guy you get is truly a game breaker.

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I just read someone say Brock Osweiler was "Outstanding" in Denver.
Von Miller took them to the Superbowl that year.
Denver was smart to pay him.

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That is all well in good but wouldn't Colt want starter $ when his contract is up? Eventually we would have to pay someone starter money.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1208644]That is all well in good but wouldn't Colt want starter $ when his contract is up? Eventually we would have to pay someone starter money.[/quote]

We have him locked up till the 2020 season.
Hopefully a second year QB will be ready to start when that time comes.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1208629]You probably can pencil this guy in for DPOY again.


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This is what I was talking about in the other thread. These are the game changers you pay (or even overpay) big money for. If you gave me the option of having him and McCoy as your starting QB for 26 mil (23+3) in cap figure or one Alex Smith for 23 million. It's a no brainer. Not even fucking remotely close. Why overpay for marginal talent? Teams need to stop overpaying for average, and set aside the big money for real game changers.[/quote]

Best player in football. Mack is right behind

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[QUOTE=jamf;1208646]We have him locked up till the 2020 season.
Hopefully a second year QB will be ready to start when that time comes.[/QUOTE]He can void the 2nd year based on playing time.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1208648]He can void the 2nd year based on playing time.[/QUOTE]



Is that still part of his current deal though? All I can find is that applied to his last deal

[url]https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/colt-mccoy-6593/[/url]

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Our own Matt Ionnadis has done an outstanding job. I want see Allen, Payne and Matt I. All clicking at the same time and kicking ass starting tomorrow.

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[quote=jamf;1208646]We have him locked up till the 2020 season.
Hopefully a second year QB will be ready to start when that time comes.[/quote]

Well that would be short term right? Eventually that rookie contract will come to the end then do we have another back up in waiting, draft another qb or sign that qb for continuity? What is being suggested seems like a short term fix and not viable long term.

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Couple of games with playoff implications for the Skins. Seattle (5-5) at Carolina (6-4). We own tie breaker over Carolina not sure about Seattle. GB (4-5-1) at Minnesota (5-4-1). We own tie breaker over GB, but that tie makes that irrelevant right now.

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Reuben Foster, the domestic abuser is done!! What a dumb ass!!
[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000991693/article/niners-releasing-foster-after-arrest-on-domestic-violence-charge[/url]

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Gonna be nice to go out and actually enjoy my Sunday...just setting my fantasy lineups and getting out the house

Reuben foster...fuck that guy.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1209503]Gonna be nice to go out and actually enjoy my Sunday...just setting my fantasy lineups and getting out the house



Reuben foster...fuck that guy.[/QUOTE]



Need you to win today and knock me into the top four!
Also just want to say that if the Giants win today they are literally right there with us except on trending in the right direction and i will be sick all day.

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I'm doing xmas lights all day. Only thing better would be a win on Thursday but we have a whack head coach

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Eagles look like straight ass. Fluke sb win

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1209525]Eagles look like straight ass. Fluke sb win[/QUOTE]



They were legit last year, sustained success isn’t easy, classic SB hangover

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God Eli is such garbage.

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[quote=MTK;1209527]They were legit last year, sustained success isn’t easy, classic SB hangover[/quote]

They earned it last year...but the defense play has been garbage all year. I kinda understand it

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All this talk about what is wrong with them but come Tuesday they could easily be in first place.

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F-ing Giants. Never win when you want them to

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[quote=Chico23231;1209503]Gonna be nice to go out and actually enjoy my Sunday...just setting my fantasy lineups and getting out the house

Reuben foster...fuck that guy.[/quote]

We don't even have the details of his arrest but he's already proven guilty?

For starters, the girl accusing him this time is the same girl that accused him last time, then went to court and admitted she made it up for money.

With all that being said, I think the 49ers released him for being a dumbass and hanging around the same girl, from the sound of it when he was arrested at the team hotel he was in a room with the girl on a non-team floor.

I don't have a problem with them releasing him but even Lynch and Shanahan are saying they released him not because they think he's guilty but because they told him he had one more opportunity to get his shit straight after the last one, and he failed that opportunity.

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With that Carolina loss to Seattle the Skins are in the 6th seed. Still think their best chance is to win the division. Seattle has a favorable schedule. Carolina has two remaining against NO. Minnesota has a tough schedule. 3/4 of the season done and the Skins are in a hunt for the playoffs. Considering how crazy this season has been I'll take it.

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[quote=mooby;1209533]We don't even have the details of his arrest but he's already proven guilty?

[B]For starters, the girl accusing him this time is the same girl that accused him last time, then went to court and admitted she made it up for money.

With all that being said, I think the 49ers released him for being a dumbass and hanging around the same girl, from the sound of it when he was arrested at the team hotel he was in a room with the girl on a non-team floor. [/B]

I don't have a problem with them releasing him but even Lynch and Shanahan are saying they released him not because they think he's guilty but because they told him he had one more opportunity to get his shit straight after the last one, and he failed that opportunity.[/quote]

Exactly. Foster is guilty of associating himself w/ a low life loser. You are the company you keep. Besides the girl had some kind of wound on her shoulder. He's just dumb as dumb gets. If a girl makes up some shit and get you in trouble and you still hang around her well then he has no one to blame but his stupid ass self.

W/ that being said hopefully Doug's on the phone w/ his agent right now.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1209536]With that Carolina loss to Seattle the Skins are in the 6th seed. Still think their best chance is to win the division. Seattle has a favorable schedule. Carolina has two remaining against NO. Minnesota has a tough schedule. 3/4 of the season done and the Skins are in a hunt for the playoffs. Considering how crazy this season has been I'll take it.[/quote]

I don't see us winning the division. Even if we were to sneak in it would be one and done.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1209538]I don't see us winning the division. Even if we were to sneak in it would be one and done.[/quote]

Fine with me. Getting a ticket to the dance is all I care about right now. I know we won't go far but if I get a chance to root for my team in January I want it.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1209536]With that Carolina loss to Seattle the Skins are in the 6th seed. Still think their best chance is to win the division. Seattle has a favorable schedule. Carolina has two remaining against NO. Minnesota has a tough schedule. 3/4 of the season done and the Skins are in a hunt for the playoffs. Considering how crazy this season has been I'll take it.[/quote]

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[quote=skinsfan69;1209537]Exactly. Foster is guilty of associating himself w/ a low life loser. You are the company you keep. Besides the girl had some kind of wound on her shoulder. He's just dumb as dumb gets. If a girl makes up some shit and get you in trouble and you still hang around her well then he has no one to blame but his stupid ass self.

[B]W/ that being said hopefully Doug's on the phone w/ his agent right now.[/B][/quote]

:lol:

There isn't a single good reason to bring him on right now. Let the legal system sort it out, if it comes back he's just a dumbass for hanging with her again and she made some more shit up then do some research and find out if he learned his lesson. If not, have a good one. Maybe he actually did hit her this time. Just saying it's too early to tell.

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[quote=mooby;1209533]We don't even have the details of his arrest but he's already proven guilty?

For starters, the girl accusing him this time is the same girl that accused him last time, then went to court and admitted she made it up for money.

With all that being said, I think the 49ers released him for being a dumbass and hanging around the same girl, from the sound of it when he was arrested at the team hotel he was in a room with the girl on a non-team floor.

I don't have a problem with them releasing him but even Lynch and Shanahan are saying they released him not because they think he's guilty but because they told him he had one more opportunity to get his shit straight after the last one, and he failed that opportunity.[/quote]

I think they released him based on the initial police report which included physical evidence on her. But 4 incidents since he came into the league plus being sent home from the combine...at my job you wouldn’t get these chances.

Fuck’em

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Perfect throw by Big Ben

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Miller is a game wrecker.

They plan around him every single play.

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How much more talent does Denver have on offense than we do?

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Luck is a TO machine but he is so damn good when he has time

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1209551]How much more talent does Denver have on offense than we do?

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How many starters are they down? [emoji848]

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Man Arians is basically asking for that Cleveland job, I’d give it to him


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[quote=MTK;1209555]Man Arians is basically asking for that Cleveland job, I’d give it to him


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They should

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1209552]Luck is a TO machine but he is so damn good when he has time[/quote]

You are beginning to see what I’ve been telling u for years.

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He’s no angel

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