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DJ Swearinger's comments mark the 4th time in 2 seasons that he's called the Redskins out for bad practice/focus. Assuming DJ's right, indictment of Jay Gruden that 1) this is a problem in Yr 5 and 2 DJ keeps talking & nothing is improving & 3 DJ feels comfortable saying this stuff publicly to begin with.....

He also criticized the secondary for bad preparation, missing tackles, and not rising to the occasion whenever they face a good passing attack...and lastly he sighted guys in the locker room laughing after two weeks straight after losing...he didn't say any names....but I have a feeling he was talking about Norman, Dunbar, and Moreau.....

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I'm kinda disappointed in DJ for speaking out about it to the public, but I'm not surprised by it because DJ loves to talk..

I honestly doubt Dunbar was one of those players who weren't well prepared. Dunbar worked hard to transitioned from WR to CB, and it wouldn't make sense for Dunbar to work hard and then doesn't pay attention to the game. Norman, I doubt it based on his work ethics but then things change throughout time.. I have no idea about Moreau.. When I first saw DJ's comment, my first thought is Clinton-Dix.. There were some rumors about his lack of work ethics, hence the reason why Packers were willing to let him go.

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[quote=GridIron26;1209416]I'm kinda disappointed in DJ for speaking out about it to the public, but I'm not surprised by it because DJ loves to talk..

I honestly doubt Dunbar was one of those players who weren't well prepared. Dunbar worked hard to transitioned from WR to CB, and it wouldn't make sense for Dunbar to work hard and then doesn't pay attention to the game. Norman, I doubt it based on his work ethics but then things change throughout time.. I have no idea about Moreau.. When I first saw DJ's comment, my first thought is Clinton-Dix.. There were some rumors about his lack of work ethics, hence the reason why Packers were willing to let him go.[/quote]

He didn't specifically say Dunbar, I think we're just speculating.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1209421]He didn't specifically say Dunbar, I think we're just speculating.[/QUOTE]Was Dunbar unprepared or hobbled?

His stride looked labored to me and like he shouldn't have been in the game.

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If players are unprepared then it’s up to the coaches to get them prepared or play someone else.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1209421]He didn't specifically say Dunbar, I think we're just speculating.[/quote]

I was responding to Redskins4ever's post. DJ didn't name names when he spoke about the issue.

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[quote=jamf;1209426]If players are unprepared then it’s up to the coaches to get them prepared or play someone else.[/quote]

I think unfortunately one of the staples of a Jay Gruden led football team, is for the players to show up completely unprepared at the worst times.

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I didn't think he was calling out the coaches as much as he was calling out his teammates for not preparing well enough.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1209452]I didn't think he was calling out the coaches as much as he was calling out his teammates for not preparing well enough.[/QUOTE]Exactly. We have one of the most experienced secondaries in the league on paper.

DJ, HHCD, JN. If you throw Mason and Zach in there, nobody should be confused at this point.

The busted coverages from mental mistakes is stupid and lazy.

Seriously, what is an assistant coach supposed to say to those guys?

"Study harder!"

Unprofessional and unacceptable.

I do hope Norman's ballet show goes well though.



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[quote=DYoungJelly;1209459]Exactly. We have one of the most experienced secondaries in the league on paper.

DJ, HHCD, JN. If you throw Mason and Zach in there, nobody should be confused at this point.

The busted coverages from mental mistakes is stupid and lazy.

[B]Seriously, what is an assistant coach supposed to say to those guys?

"Study harder!"[/B]

Unprofessional and unacceptable.

I do hope Norman's ballet show goes well though.



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He can let the player ride the pine on game days, playing time needs to be earned through hard work mentally and physically. It seems a lot of professional athletes lack discipline and focus, a good coach won't tolerate a lack of either.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1209462]He can let the player ride the pine on game days, playing time needs to be earned through hard work mentally and physically. It seems a lot of professional athletes lack discipline and focus, a good coach won't tolerate a lack of either.[/quote]

This! If there are no consequences for being lazy and not producing Guys like Doctson know they are getting a free lunch and there is no urgency to improve.


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[quote=DYoungJelly;1209422]Was Dunbar unprepared or hobbled?

His stride looked labored to me and like he shouldn't have been in the game.

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Dunbar should not have been playing.....or he should have been matching up with Gallup....where was Stroman or Johnson...? Eirher of them could have played in place of Dunbar.....and Norman should have been matching up the whole game on Amari Cooper...these mishaps are on the coaches....

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1209431]I think unfortunately one of the staples of a Jay Gruden led football team, is for the players to show up completely unprepared at the worst times.[/quote]

Ain't that the truth! This is the exact reason why Gruden is a below subpar .500 head coach and why he has struggled like hell to get to .500 for his career....

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I'm personally glad DJ spoke. Calls it like he sees it.

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No Playoffs=New Coach. This team needs a real fresh start. Our offense is old and sucks. Unfortunately, the goal of this organization has been to be relevant, rather than good. Not sure if that'll change. Our .500 record dating back years is evidence of that. Getting an old ass QB is evidence of that.

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I’ve no problem with him speaking. That’s coming from a place of frustration and chances are if he’s complaining, there’s others who feel the same way. Someone needs make sure players are held accountable and if the coach won’t do it then let the defensive captain can do it. Swearinger typically does a damn good job game in and game out so he has a right to be irritated.


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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1209462]He can let the player ride the pine on game days, playing time needs to be earned through hard work mentally and physically. It seems a lot of professional athletes lack discipline and focus, a good coach won't tolerate a lack of either.[/quote]

Gruden took Norman out of the N.O. game because his head was somewhere else.

So what does Gruden do when he benches him and they start moving the ball on his replacement at 15 yards a pop?

Just saying.

Professional sports are different than anything else.

I love the idea, but if that were to happen he would be fired right after the game.

Could Gruden survive the situation Bill B. did in the super bowl? Philly started picking on the Pats replacement immediately.

Coaching grown men who make more than the coach and have more job security than the coach is a different animal. I'm just saying it isn't as simple as some make it out to be.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1209488]Gruden took Norman out of the N.O. game because his head was somewhere else.

So what does Gruden do when he benches him and they start moving the ball on his replacement at 15 yards a pop?

Just saying.

Professional sports are different than anything else.

I love the idea, but if that were to happen he would be fired right after the game.

Could Gruden survive the situation Bill B. did in the super bowl? Philly started picking on the Pats replacement immediately.

Coaching grown men who make more than the coach and have more job security than the coach is a different animal. I'm just saying it isn't as simple as some make it out to be.[/quote]


Norman can indeed be replaced....I say continue to play the less experienced player and keep Norman on the sideline....Norman was heavily criticized after the Saints game and rightfully so. Before the Redskins signed him the Panthers GM saw holes in his game and decided not to give Norman the contract he was seeking in Carolina.....Norman has played excellent for the most part since he's been in Washington.....but he is undeserving of that 5 year 75 million dollar contract.....he'll be 31 by the start of next season and it's time for the Redskins to start scouting his replacement.....CB.Byron Murphy from the Washington Huskies comes to mind....

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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;1209491]Norman can indeed be replaced....I say continue to play the less experienced player and keep Norman on the sideline....Norman was heavily criticized after the Saints game and rightfully so. Before the Redskins signed him the Panthers GM saw holes in his game and decided not to give Norman the contract he was seeking in Carolina.....Norman has played excellent for the most part since he's been in Washington.....but he is undeserving of that 5 year 75 million dollar contract.....he'll be 31 by the start of next season and it's time for the Redskins to start scouting his replacement.....CB.Byron Murphy from the Washington Huskies comes to mind....[/QUOTE]That's great take on a forum.

When the eagles and others start picking on Stroman, and it is as obvious as the Malcolm Butler situation.

Are you going to say proving the point was worth the Ls?

Norman is the best CB on the team and it isn't even close.

You're right, he hasn't lived up to the contract but that is frankly irrelevant when you look at who is on the roster going into the remaining games.

The tough guy coach crap is awesome as long as the coach has enough security to pull it off. The question is does Jay?

I don't think he does, but I do think he gets the players to buy in for the most part.

Norman, the highest paid player on the team is in a category by himself on the team.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1209488]Gruden took Norman out of the N.O. game because his head was somewhere else.

So what does Gruden do when he benches him and they start moving the ball on his replacement at 15 yards a pop?

Just saying.

Professional sports are different than anything else.

I love the idea, but if that were to happen he would be fired right after the game.

Could Gruden survive the situation Bill B. did in the super bowl? Philly started picking on the Pats replacement immediately.

Coaching grown men who make more than the coach and have more job security than the coach is a different animal. I'm just saying it isn't as simple as some make it out to be.[/quote]

Coaches at all levels have drifted further and further from the discipline of days gone by. I played in High School and College in the 70's, what was done to us would have gotten most every coach fired or even jailed today. In High School we had a line coach who played for Bear Bryant at Alabama, if you were caught not paying attention he would blast into you like he was run blocking, if you were lucky you saw it coming. Moral to that story is that is what you will get if you are caught not paying attention on the field.

I used to think a face mask was more to give a coach something to grab while he yelled at you, more than protecting your nose and teeth from being broken. The day after a game was film review of our performances. If the team as a whole played well, that is all it was, if it didn't, laps and wind sprints were added at the end. Often an individual would be called out and a few extra laps or 40's would be added in his honor.

Everybody is different, some guys give 100% no matter what, others won't and need to be pushed and prodded constantly. I am not saying to discipline an NFL player like a High Schooler from 45 years ago, but they will respond to getting playing time taken away. Problem is only someone with Bill Belichick's resume can get away with benching a star player for disciplinary reasons.
Most other NFL coaches lack the stones to do it, if they all did they all would have more control.

I don't buy that you can't discipline grown men who are millionaires in the NFL. They seem to do it in the NBA, there are plenty of very talented players that get in the coach's dog house, lose minutes and or get shipped out.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1209493]Coaches at all levels have drifted further and further from the discipline of days gone by. I played in High School and College in the 70's, what was done to us would have gotten most every coach fired or even jailed today. In High School we had a line coach who played for Bear Bryant at Alabama, if you were caught not paying attention he would blast into you like he was run blocking, if you were lucky you saw it coming. Moral to that story is that is what you will get if you are caught not paying attention on the field.

I used to think a face mask was more to give a coach something to grab while he yelled at you, more than protecting your nose and teeth from being broken. The day after a game was film review of our performances. If the team as a whole played well, that is all it was, if it didn't, laps and wind sprints were added at the end. Often an individual would be called out and a few extra laps or 40's would be added in his honor.

Everybody is different, some guys give 100% no matter what, others won't and need to be pushed and prodded constantly. I am not saying to discipline an NFL player like a High Schooler from 45 years ago, but they will respond to getting playing time taken away. Problem is only someone with Bill Belichick's resume can get away with benching a star player for disciplinary reasons.
Most other NFL coaches lack the stones to do it, if they all did they all would have more control.

I don't buy that you can't discipline grown men who are millionaires in the NFL. They seem to do it in the NBA, there are plenty of very talented players that get in the coach's dog house, lose minutes and or get shipped out.[/QUOTE]Stars don't get disciplined at all in any league or at the very least the same as marginal players.

The NBA is probably worst example. There is always drama in the NBA.

In the NBA good players intentionally limit their minutes and take planned games off.

The difference is guaranteed contracts.

Guys without will toe the line, while guys with are in a different category.

Im not saying I know what to do, I'm just saying it isn't as black and white as some on here make it out to be.


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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1209459]Exactly. We have one of the most experienced secondaries in the league on paper.

DJ, HHCD, JN. If you throw Mason and Zach in there, nobody should be confused at this point.

The busted coverages from mental mistakes is stupid and lazy.

Seriously, what is an assistant coach supposed to say to those guys?

"Study harder!"

Unprofessional and unacceptable.

I do hope Norman's ballet show goes well though.



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Fuck Josh Norman. Overpaid bitch who had the nerve to blame us for booing him/them? He gets toasted on a weekly basis. I hope they boo the piss out of him specifically on Monday when he gets turned around like a top again.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1209507]Fuck Josh Norman. Overpaid bitch who had the nerve to blame us for booing him/them? He gets toasted on a weekly basis. I hope they boo the piss out of him specifically on Monday when he gets turned around like a top again.[/QUOTE]I don't disagree with the sentiment.

Gruden is in a no win position with him.

Bench him out of principle and get torched worse than we are now.

Or keep rolling the way he is stringing him along paying lip service to accountability.

Money changes certain players. It did Norman.


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[quote=punch it in;1209507]Fuck Josh Norman. Overpaid bitch who had the nerve to blame us for booing him/them? He gets toasted on a weekly basis. I hope they boo the piss out of him specifically on Monday when he gets turned around like a top again.[/quote]

He was on Fox NFL show this morning.

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Sam ponder for the fuckin win. Good gracious...I’d pop those pants right off her.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1209509]He was on Fox NFL show this morning.[/QUOTE]



Hope he did a better job than he does on the field.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1209514]Hope he did a better job than he does on the field.[/QUOTE]He wants to be a tv star more than a football player right now.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1209517]He wants to be a tv star more than a football player right now.

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That's the feeling I get. In the old days if you were 6-5 and coming of 2 straight loses and the player is running around promoting himself, Joe Gibbs would probably cut his ass.

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Josh Norman last week at the start of the game laid down for Cooper.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1209518]That's the feeling I get. In the old days if you were 6-5 and coming of 2 straight loses and the player is running around having fun, Joe Gibbs would probably cut his ass.[/quote]

I'm not the biggest fan of Norman but it is his day off. He's free to do whatever he wants.

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I'm glad DJ Swearinger spoke his mind. He's the fire for the team before the game and he gets everyone ready with his super enthusiasm. I like guys like him who play with heart and spirit.

Jay Gruden has always been a player's coach not a disciplinarian. His players love him but i personally don't think he gets the most out of everyone. Everyone on the team knows that this year Gruden is playing for his job. If he doesn't get to at least 9-7 and/or a playoff spot he will be gone.