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[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/scout-qb-mvp-patrick-mahomes-redshirt-year-alex-smith-led-historic-season-083412040.html[/url]

High praise for AS

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Alex spotted in public for the first time POST surgery..

That is a serious cast on his leg.. Anyone know what kind that is??

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217556][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxdiexnW0AExnIg.jpg[/IMG]


Alex spotted in public for the first time POST surgery..

That is a serious cast on his leg.. Anyone know what kind that is??[/quote]

Maybe this (from Wiki)
[quote]The Ilizarov apparatus is a type of external fixation used in orthopedic surgery to lengthen or reshape limb bones; as a limb-sparing technique to treat complex and/or open bone fractures; and in cases of infected nonunions of bones that are not amenable with other techniques. It is named after the orthopedic surgeon Gavriil Abramovich Ilizarov from the Soviet Union, who pioneered the technique.[/quote]
[IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Ilizarov_on_right_leg.jpg/560px-Ilizarov_on_right_leg.jpg[/IMG]

Doesn't show it with a cast also, but maybe some form of it?

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That is crazy man, Hope the guys can walk right after this.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217558]That is crazy man, Hope the guys can walk right after this.[/quote]

I forget who tweeted it at the time that Alex first got out of the hospital, but I believe he said that Alex tentatively has a few more operations that he will need before they will for sure know if he will be able to attempt a comeback or not. I'll ask my buddy who told me about it, and see if I can find the link.

On a side note, I used to work with a guy who had a metal frame cast just like this. He had broke his leg in an industrial accident. He ended up having close to half a dozen operations even after he got this thing, and while his leg looks good today all things considered, he is unable to do anything else other than a brisk walk - running / jumping is out of the question. He does walk with a slight limp, but it's hardly noticeable.

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[url]https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/profootballdoc/sd-sp-pfd-alex-smith-leg-surgery-recovery-return-redskins-0121-story.html[/url]



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Yeah I don't see Smith playing again. That Doctor Quote pretty much sums it up. I would imagine he will retire.

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But I thought he would be back in 6 months?

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Wondered why we haven't heard from him but I guess we'll see when the new league year comes.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217556][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxdiexnW0AExnIg.jpg[/IMG]


Alex spotted in public for the first time POST surgery..

That is a serious cast on his leg.. Anyone know what kind that is??[/quote]


The kind you never play football again.

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FYI

[url]http://nfltraderumors.co/latest-regarding-redskins-qb-alex-smith/[/url]

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Best wishes to Alex.

I really hope the team doesn't say an F'n word to try to shame him out of his money.

I would be pleasantly surprised if there were no leaks or a McLovin-like media campaign against paying him fully his due.

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This picture makes me go 100% QB in the first round now. Unless we get Nick Foles to come

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No way we can pay Foles




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It does not make sense for Alex to risk his future ability to walk normally....for what? He already is wealthy.
But the biggest hurdle for Alex is he will be 35 competing against world class young NFL athletes. The risk/reward is not favoring Alex coming back to get sacked more.

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Ya'll really wanna commit 40+ mil to 2 qb's knowing one can't play?

It's draft or bust. Good article Irrefutable, if that former NFL doc is right we need to be exploring all available options this offseason. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

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At this point just hoping Alex can walk normal without pain the rest of his life. I think chances of him returning to play are slim and none.

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The physician in the SD Tribune article is a great source. Alex's hope of being able to play again - ever - rests on whether or not he will need a free flap graft.

When they had to remove the infected tissue around the broken bone, they may have had to take muscle with it. If that's the case it means he will have lost at least some level of movement function in the leg, and they will come in with a flap graft to make it look normal again, but it won't function normally again.

If he has a free flap graft, he will probably walk with a limp the rest of his life and will not be able to play football again. Alex and his doctors likely already know whether he will need one or not. Stay tuned for that piece of info in the coming months.

Agree with those who've commented thus far, the Skins have to look at Alex as virtually retired.

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What about a trade for Wentz. He fits our profile to a tee. High upside, often injured, possible attitude issue.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1217616]What about a trade for Wentz. He fits our profile to a tee. High upside, often injured, possible attitude issue.[/QUOTE]



I’m not buying into the last part



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There is ZERO and I mean less than ZERO % chance Wentz is moved let alone to The skins. We are going to draft a rookie QB folks, there is no other way out. Sighing a Tyrod or a Teddy B. Etc is just a stopgap move. I'd be willing to Draft Grier and then sigh a vet to start the season.

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lol...trading for Wentz.

if we going there, why not trade for Aaron Rodgers, Todd Gurley, JJ Watt, Bill Belichek, lets resurrect Jack Kent Cooke from the dead to buy the team back, etc.

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The Eagles would never be stupid enough to trade Wentz to the Redskins. But I do believe there is some rumblings about how he runs the offense. You didn't see any of the wr's come to his defense did you? The offense at least from what I've seen runs smoother when Foles is in there. He spreads the ball around where Wentz just throws to his buddy.

But we're not getting either, as everyone has said it's draft or bust for us. We gotta get someone on a rookie deal and hope he beats out Colt and maybe another vet. I wouldn't even be mad if we drafted two QB's, one early and another in the later rounds.

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From Doctor Salene Parekh @ Duke University

"This is called an external fixator. Used in setting of infection, soft tissue concern, lack of hardware. Usually more stiff afterwards. IMO 8-12 months RTP and career threatening"

Yeah.. his career is over

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1217637]The Eagles would never be stupid enough to trade Wentz to the Redskins. But I do believe there is some rumblings about how he runs the offense. You didn't see any of the wr's come to his defense did you? The offense at least from what I've seen runs smoother when Foles is in there. He spreads the ball around where Wentz just throws to his buddy.[/QUOTE]


[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001012440/article/multiple-eagles-defend-carson-wentz-slam-report[/url]




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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1217584]But I thought he would be back in 6 months?[/quote]

That is the kind of stuff that infuriates me with Gruden. He didn't even know the full nature of the injury, really had no idea, and he goes and has the presser and says basically "Yeah, Alex is going to be fine, he's going to be back in 6 months".

Other coaches would say something like "Well I don't want to speculate on the nature of his injury, I haven't gotten to talk to the medical staff yet, but certainly I want to wish him the best and a speedy recovery". But not Gruden.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1217649]That is the kind of stuff that infuriates me with Gruden. He didn't even know the full nature of the injury, really had no idea, and he goes and has the presser and says basically [B]"Yeah, Alex is going to be fine, he's going to be back in 6 months".[/B]

Other coaches would say something like "Well I don't want to speculate on the nature of his injury, I haven't gotten to talk to the medical staff yet, but certainly I want to wish him the best and a speedy recovery". But not Gruden.[/quote]

I don't remember him saying that at all. When the infection struck he and the Redskins asked for privacy on behalf of Alex and he gave no timetable for return.

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[quote=Schneed10;1217650]I don't remember him saying that at all. When the infection struck he and the Redskins asked for privacy on behalf of Alex and he gave no timetable for return.[/quote]

He said something along the lines of its usually a 6 MO recovery but I don't think he said Alex will be back

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217642]From Doctor Salene Parekh @ Duke University

"This is called an external fixator. Used in setting of infection, soft tissue concern, lack of hardware. Usually more stiff afterwards. IMO 8-12 months RTP and career threatening"

Yeah.. his career is over[/quote]

He's definitely not playing in 2019, that much is certain. But, yeah, I don't see him coming back, especially if they have to borrow muscle from another part of his body to place where the infected tissue was removed.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1217636]lol...trading for Wentz.



if we going there, why not trade for Aaron Rodgers, Todd Gurley, JJ Watt, Bill Belichek, lets resurrect Jack Kent Cooke from the dead to buy the team back, etc.[/QUOTE]



I’d be cool with all this. Let’s get Chip Lohmiller back too. Off the stone guy.


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217653]He said something along the lines of its usually a 6 MO recovery but I don't think he said Alex will be back[/quote]

If we're referring to what Gruden said on the day the injury happened, which is well before anybody knew Alex had developed an infection, and expecting to hold Gruden to those comments, then we've collectively lost our fucking minds.

Obviously when Gruden said these broken legs are typically 6 months to recover, he was talking about a common uncomplicated version.

Not aimed at you, but the inability of some to digest nuance is asinine. Nobody can get pissed at Gruden over this.

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[quote=Schneed10;1217665]If we're referring to what Gruden said on the day the injury happened, which is well before anybody knew Alex had developed an infection, and expecting to hold Gruden to those comments, then we've collectively lost our fucking minds.

Obviously when Gruden said these broken legs are typically 6 months to recover, he was talking about a common uncomplicated version.

Not aimed at you, but the inability of some to digest nuance is asinine. Nobody can get pissed at Gruden over this.[/quote]

No but we can be mad at everything else!!

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[quote=Schneed10;1217665]If we're referring to what Gruden said on the day the injury happened, which is well before anybody knew Alex had developed an infection, and expecting to hold Gruden to those comments, then we've collectively lost our fucking minds.

Obviously when Gruden said these broken legs are typically 6 months to recover, he was talking about a common uncomplicated version.

Not aimed at you, but the inability of some to digest nuance is asinine. Nobody can get pissed at Gruden over this.[/quote]

This is literally like the worst reason to get mad at Gruden. Plenty of other reasons (can't pick a d-coordinator for shit comes to mind) but insinuating Alex will play in 2019? LOL. Attention to details folks.

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I believe it was the day after the surgery when Gruden predicted a 6-8 month recovery, obviously before all the complications set in. Holding him to that word is ridiculous.



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So many of us may have heard on the radio driving to work this morning on 980 about the article quoting the former San Diego team orthopedist, where he basically opined that Alex Smith's chances of making a return to the NFL are at risk. This due to the type of brace he was wearing, which indicates that the plates/hardware initially inserted to assist in the healing process had been removed due to infection.

At any rate, I exchanged notes with a good friend of mine who is also an orthopedic surgeon (i know, everyone knows an expert) and a former I-AA football player, and asked him what he thought. His response was "yeah, it looks like he's f-----." Same friend had also mentioned to me a couple weeks ago that he may need a graft, which the article indicates may spell the end of his career.

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[quote=ForkLifter;1217714]So many of us may have heard on the radio driving to work this morning on 980 about the article quoting the former San Diego team orthopedist, where he basically opined that Alex Smith's chances of making a return to the NFL are at risk. This due to the type of brace he was wearing, which indicates that the plates/hardware initially inserted to assist in the healing process had been removed due to infection.

At any rate, I exchanged notes with a good friend of mine who is also an orthopedic surgeon (i know, everyone knows an expert) and a former I-AA football player, and asked him what he thought. His response was "yeah, it looks like he's f-----." Same friend had also mentioned to me a couple weeks ago that he may need a graft, which the article indicates may spell the end of his career.[/quote]


It definitely doesn't look good. Best case scenario, he returns in 2020. By then, I think he's 37 and will not have played in a year and a half. He didn't look that great before the injury. By then, we're likely seeing a coaching change (unless the 'skins do make the playoffs, lol) and I don't know how Smith works into that equation.

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[quote=MTK;1217681]I believe it was the day after the surgery when Gruden predicted a 6-8 month recovery, obviously before all the complications set in. Holding him to that word is ridiculous.



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Dude is not playing next year if ever at all.

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[quote=metalskins;1217725]It definitely doesn't look good. Best case scenario, he returns in 2020. By then, I think he's 37 and will not have played in a year and a half. He didn't look that great before the injury. By then, we're likely seeing a coaching change (unless the 'skins do make the playoffs, lol) and I don't know how Smith works into that equation.[/quote]

Better to pay him to be a backup than to pay him to sit at home. Sucks if thats the best case scenario. Don't know who the hell this team could draft or afford by then so anyway., so looks like we're fucked.

Maybe there's a Doug Flutie guy in the CFL or something.

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Smith ain't even gonna be the backup this year. He's probably looking at PUP list at a minimum, and even then they might not activate him after week 6. We should just assume he's done at this point in the game given his age and the type of injury it is.