Alex Smith to miss 2019 Season
 

Per Multiple sources.

[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001013656/article/redskins-believe-alex-smith-leg-will-miss-all-of-2019?campaign=Twitter_atn[/url]

No surprise here, that was a gruesome injury. I wonder why he just doesn't hang it up? In 2020 he'll be what? 37?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217984]Per Multiple sources.

[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001013656/article/redskins-believe-alex-smith-leg-will-miss-all-of-2019?campaign=Twitter_atn[/url]

No surprise here, that was a gruesome injury. I wonder why he just doesn't hang it up? In 2020 he'll be what? 37?

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He would be 36 years old when the season starts in 2020. We don't really know where he is at mentally right now, for all we know he may know that his injury is career ending and it hasn't been announced yet.

If that isn't known yet, then having an athlete's mentality he is most likely hoping that he makes it all the way back in 2020 and is able to play again, whether it is here, or somewhere else. The coming months should tell us plenty. I wonder truly how committed the skins are to Alex, and will they be willing to wait a whole year and just use a stop gap QB to keep the seat warm until Alex can come back, or if at some point this year they make the decision to move on, draft a QB of the future while they get the Alex situation sorted.

As far as Alex Smith goes, if he can pass a physical, i'm sure there will be a handful of teams interested in him as a backup / spot starter / stop gap QB. He will be 37 in 2021, not freakishly old for a QB these days when you see guys like Brees and Brady still slinging it in their 40's.

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We will draft someone in the 1st or 2nd. With that investment in a high pick, and if he plays well, Alex will never play here again EVEN if he does make it back.


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Isn't this good news?

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I am sure this was talked about, buried in some thread somewhere, but I do not want to go looking for it. What is the cap implications if Smith retires say at the most opportune time for the Redskins, say after 6/1/2019 or what is the best case scenario? Has this been talked about?

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Terrible for Smith. Tough way to end a decent career. As a Skins fan I am only concerned with how the money end shakes out. Hopefully we do not end up even more screwed as a franchise because of it. Football wise He was not the answer.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1217992]Terrible for Smith. Tough way to end a decent career. As a Skins fan I am only concerned with how the money end shakes out. Hopefully we do not end up even more screwed as a franchise because of it. Football wise He was not the answer.[/QUOTE]



Agreed. Smith wasn’t playing well at all, and the offense was badly held back by his play. Gruden needs a QB who can run the offense at a high level, and the ability to use the entire playbook.

Another Bruce Allen blunder, and Bruce Allen contract agreement.


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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1217993]Agreed. Smith wasn’t playing well at all, and the offense was badly held back by his play. Gruden needs a QB who can run the offense at a high level, and the ability to use the entire playbook.

Another Bruce Allen blunder, and Bruce Allen contract agreement.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]The offense was not held back it was worse without him

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1217994]The offense was not held back it was worse without him

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The offense did NOT operate anywhere near the tempo and level that Cousins ran it. It was stagnant. Simple


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In the brief time McCoy played we saw a much better passing game, touch downs, etc.


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No it didn't but I'm just saying Alex was way better than CM or JJ obviously

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Might as well add retire, he’s not coming back.

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Fitzmagic 2019!!!

He is a fairly realistic option cap wise.

We could tank in style.

It would instantaneously fix our problems at receiver.

With Fitzmagic, like Rex, EVERYBODY is open!

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Not surprised at all. He wasn't really playing well at all anyway. Just hope the guy can resume a normal life again. Seems like a real good guy. He just wasn't a good QB for us.

So now I assume Colt will compete w/ a rookie.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1217992]Terrible for Smith. Tough way to end a decent career. As a Skins fan I am only concerned with how the money end shakes out. Hopefully we do not end up even more screwed as a franchise because of it. Football wise He was not the answer.[/QUOTE]Agreed! I honestly don't think [emoji848] that Alex Smith will be coming back. [QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1217997]In the brief time McCoy played we saw a much better passing game, touch downs, etc.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I agree! [emoji106] The Offense did seem to move more smoothly with Colt McCoy at the helm. [QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1218000]Might as well add retire, he’s not coming back.[/QUOTE]My personal opinion is that due Salery Cap reasons and insurance reasons Alex Smith will sit out the 2019 Season and then wait to retire just before the start of the 2020 Season.

Either way, the Redskins organization will be taking a Cap Hit [emoji19]

But if I understand what was said in another thread a few months ago, it will be a bit less of a Cap Hit in 2020 instead of Alex Smith retiring in 2019. If I am incorrect in any way, please, anyone chime in and please explain.

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This really sucks for Smith. I have read several stories about Smith and based on the stories, I would assume Smith is not giving up on coming back, or at least not yet.. We might as well move forward as if Smith will never play again although, I would love for us to keep Smith in QB room to mentor our next rookie QB. Andy Reid and Mahomes kept mentioning Smith and how big role he played in mentoring Mahomes when people asked Andy and Mahomes about their success this season.

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[quote=Defensewins;1217991]I am sure this was talked about, buried in some thread somewhere, but I do not want to go looking for it. What is the cap implications if Smith retires say at the most opportune time for the Redskins, say after 6/1/2019 or what is the best case scenario? Has this been talked about?[/quote]

[URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-have-no-real-options-deal-alex-smiths-2019-salary"]The Redskins have no real options to deal with Alex Smith's 2019 salary [/URL]

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[quote=kct1975;1218012]Agreed! I honestly don't think [emoji848] that Alex Smith will be coming back. I agree! [emoji106] The Offense did seem to move more smoothly with Colt McCoy at the helm. My personal opinion is that due Salery Cap reasons and insurance reasons Alex Smith will sit out the 2019 Season and then wait to retire just before the start of the 2020 Season.

Either way, the Redskins organization will be taking a Cap Hit [emoji19]

[B]But if I understand what was said in another thread a few months ago, it will be a bit less of a Cap Hit in 2020 instead of Alex Smith retiring in 2019. If I am incorrect in any way, please, anyone chime in and please explain.
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I believe your statement to be accurate. That is because after the end of year 3 of his contract, all guaranteed monies ($71 million) would have been met already.

Cap hits (Source [url]https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/alex-smith-3337/[/url])

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No options here:

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-have-no-real-options-deal-alex-smiths-2019-salary[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1218023]No options here:

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-have-no-real-options-deal-alex-smiths-2019-salary[/url][/quote]

SNAKEBIT Organization

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Honestly, I don't even care about the cap situation. That leg injury is so fucked up that I just want the guy to be able to live the rest of his life normally. Hopefully he doesn't have long term consequences from this. Not like we're winning the super bowl in the next 2 years anyways. Time to start stockpiling young talent and hoping we can be competitive in 2 or 3 years. Next year is probably a lost cause.

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Too bad for Smith, always hate to see a career end this way.

The organization will move on assuming he won't come back I'd assume. I'm guessing we go after an established QB in FA since Gruden won't have the time to groom and deal with the ups and downs that come with a rookie QB. Unless he wins this year he has to know he's finished in DC.

As much as I disagree with it, I expect the team to mortgage the future and try to get some talent in the door in an effort to get us to the playoffs so he can salvage his job. Expect us to be competitive in the top 3-5 QBs on the market along with other players along with a lot of reworked contracts to open up cap space. I really hate the concept, but that's what you get with lame duck coaches that don't have a strong GM pulling the trigger on personnel decisions.

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[quote=Defensewins;1217991]I am sure this was talked about, buried in some thread somewhere, but I do not want to go looking for it. What is the cap implications if Smith retires say at the most opportune time for the Redskins, say after 6/1/2019 or what is the best case scenario? Has this been talked about?[/quote]

There is no difference between a player retiring and a player being cut from a cap stand point. Only difference is a player that is cut, can sign with another team.

If a player 'un-retires' he stays with his parent team until he is traded, or, cut.

For Smith: If he is on the roster on 3/17/2019, his 2020 salary is fully guaranteed. If he is released before that day and designated a post 6/1 release, he will count $21.5 million against the cap. Even if he retires, it does not change the cap hit.

The most economical would be to release him in his final year. But, due to his current health, that option is not practical.

It looks like to me that the best balance of cap and dead would be to release Smith in 2020 and designate him a post 6/1 release. That is the end of his third year and all guaranteed money of $71m has been paid.

By releasing him near the end of the 2020 league year and designating him a post 6/1 release, the cap hit play out like this:

2020 Dead Cap: $5,400,000
2021 Dead Cap: $10,800,000
2020 Cap Savings: $16,000,000

Heres my source if interested:
[url]https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/alex-smith-3337/[/url]

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Wasn't sure where to post this, but I thought this would be at least an entertaining idea: Rumor is that the Bengals will probably dump Dalton this offseason (or try to trade him) and, separately, rumor is that the Bengals want Bill Callahan. If they just want to dump him, would you "trade" Callahan for Dalton?

PS, in case you couldn't tell, it's a slow day.

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I don't see Dalton going anywhere unless the Bengals jump up in the draft. He's been a good QB for them

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This was floating around twitter. What do u guys think[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190129/bcf196f73c91c85d8fd6c52b4831d80d.jpg[/IMG]

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There is no chance they trade for Dalton. They cannot afford to pay $40 million on QBs.

They can better spend money on a long term Brandon Scherff contract. And a few moderate priced free agents. S, OL, etc.

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Hard pass on Red Rocket.

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The max upside with Dalton is around 8 or 9 wins. No thanks. I don't want a QB that is just going to keep us competitive. We're just going to tread water w/ Dalton.

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I don't want Dalton either, might as well have Kirk back. Both are about the same. Good QBs that cant win tough games

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I want the nuclear option cut Smith now. Make all garunteed money hit the 2019 cap and have a clean slat in 2020. Unlike Bruce I don’t see this team being competitive and I don’t see a reason to spend money in free agency and waste a year of contract in a garbage year.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1218045]I want the nuclear option cut Smith now. Make all garunteed money hit the 2019 cap and have a clean slat in 2020. Unlike Bruce I don’t see this team being competitive and I don’t see a reason to spend money in free agency and waste a year of contract in a garbage year.[/QUOTE]



I’d like that too, but the only way Bruce and jay for it is if they were guaranteed to stay beyond 2020. No way they tank 2019 if they know their heads are on the chopping block.


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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1218046]I’d like that too, but the only way Bruce and jay for it is if they were guaranteed to stay beyond 2020. No way they tank 2019 if they know their heads are on the chopping block.


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Lol, Dan's prolly garunteed them that already, and unlimited IMAX movies.on his new yacht

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218039]This was floating around twitter. What do u guys think[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190129/bcf196f73c91c85d8fd6c52b4831d80d.jpg[/IMG]

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I'd rather do a backflip off the Eiffel tower

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Fuck AP

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218039]This was floating around twitter. What do u guys think[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190129/bcf196f73c91c85d8fd6c52b4831d80d.jpg[/IMG]

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Why would you post this? Luavao back with the team as depth? This piece of garbage should be banned from twitter, what piece of shit. Yank the Skins fan card from this bitch

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[quote=Chico23231;1218050]Why would you post this? Luavao back with the team as depth? This piece of garbage should be banned from twitter, what piece of shit. Yank the Skins fan card from this bitch[/quote]

It was actually a writer. I agree tho, it's not happening

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1218045]I want the nuclear option cut Smith now. Make all garunteed money hit the 2019 cap and have a clean slat in 2020. Unlike Bruce I don’t see this team being competitive and I don’t see a reason to spend money in free agency and waste a year of contract in a garbage year.[/QUOTE]



That would require Bruce backing off this “we’re close” bullshit. As a side effect it would pretty much guarantee another year or even two of this current setup. So I’d have mixed feelings about it.



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Rick Snider Tweeted that there's a report that the Redskins might trade for Miami's Ryan Tannehill before he's released. Why not just let Miami release him and then pick him up if you think he's going to be good? (BTW, I think it would be a dumb move!)

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218039]This was floating around twitter. What do u guys think[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190129/bcf196f73c91c85d8fd6c52b4831d80d.jpg[/IMG]

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Alex Smith will count $21 million against the salary cap next season. Does not matter if he is on IR, retires or is released. The cap hit is $21 million.
Colt McCoy will count $3 million against next years cap. Then what do you do with Johnson?

If they trade and acquire Andy Dalton, the contract is also acquired and he will count $16 million against next years salary cap.

Without considering Johnson, that would tie up some $40 million in the QB position.

To give it perspective, Aaron Rodgers is the highest paid QB in the league today. His cap hit is $26 million.