Rob Ryan added to staff
 

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Can't these new hires go into an off season thread??? He's been hired as an inside LB coach.. lol.

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His most recent three stops...

In 2011 he was named defensive coordinator of the Cowboys, when they ranked 16th in points allowed per game, and then the next year dropped to 24th in points allowed per game. He was then fired by Jason Garrett.

He was then hired by the Saints as DC in 2013 when he had a strong defense, finishing 4th in points allowed per game. But in 2014 his defense tanked, finishing bottom five.
He was then fired from New Orleans in 2015 on the day after the Kirk Cousins and Jay Gruden led Redskins hung a 47 burger on his defense, in a 47-14 defeat of the Saints.

The next year he was hired by his brother Rex as D Coordinator of the Bills, then fired along with Rex at the end of the 2016 season. Hasn't coached since.

Good job fellas. You got someone who represents no threat to Manusky, I'll say that.

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Can he coach up LB's? That's all I care about.

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[quote=MTK;1218178]Can he coach up LB's? That's all I care about.[/quote]

He better be able too, it'd be hella pathetic if he could somehow manage to screw that up.

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No one can coach up Mason Foster. Not even Mike Singletary.

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[quote=MTK;1218178]Can he coach up LB's? That's all I care about.[/quote]

We'll see. Last time he was a LB coach was under Belichick from 2000 - 2003. I mean that's certainly a plus. I guess I'd have to defer to Willie McGinest and Teddy Bruschi to tell me what they thought of him.

But we don't have Belichick as our HC, so...

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Meh. Rob Ryan's greatest accomplishment in life is that his Dad and brother didn't make him change his last name.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1218181]No one can coach up Mason Foster. Not even Mike Singletary.[/quote]

You've got it wrong, Mason Foster has the work ethic, he just doesn't have the talent/athleticism. And Zach Brown has the talent/athleticism, he just doesn't have the work ethic.

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Meet the new D-coordinator for 2020.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1218183]Meh. Rob Ryan's greatest accomplishment in life is that his Dad and brother didn't make him change his last name.[/quote]

He had the number 2 defense while at the saints. We haven't seen that since GW.

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[quote=mooby;1218185]You've got it wrong, Mason Foster has the work ethic, he just doesn't have the talent/athleticism. And Zach Brown has the talent/athleticism, he just doesn't have the work ethic.[/quote]

Give him Devin White and Rueben Foster...let’s see how it goes. I’d lean he could get it done.

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Ryan led a defensive unit in New Orleans that ranked No. 4 in the league in points-per-game and No. 2 in the league in passing defense in 2013. In the 2013 postseason, the Saints defeated the Philadelphia Eagles in the Wild Card Round of the playoffs who entered the game with the league’s No. 2 ranked offense.
During his two-year tenure as the Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator, Ryan worked with OLB Demarcus Ware who posted 10-plus sack seasons in both seasons. Ware finished No. 2 in the league in sacks in 2011 with 19.5, the second-most in a single season in his 12-year NFL career.

[url]https://www.redskins.com/news/redskins-hire-rob-ryan-as-inside-linebackers-coach[/url]

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1218191]Ryan led a defensive unit in New Orleans that ranked No. 4 in the league in points-per-game and No. 2 in the league in passing defense in 2013. In the 2013 postseason, the Saints defeated the Philadelphia Eagles in the Wild Card Round of the playoffs who entered the game with the league’s No. 2 ranked offense.
During his two-year tenure as the Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator, Ryan worked with OLB Demarcus Ware who posted 10-plus sack seasons in both seasons. Ware finished No. 2 in the league in sacks in 2011 with 19.5, the second-most in a single season in his 12-year NFL career.

[url]https://www.redskins.com/news/redskins-hire-rob-ryan-as-inside-linebackers-coach[/url][/quote]

How come you don't want to mention his other season with the Saints?

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Because they switched from 3-4 to 4-3 the second year and he was only there for 3 years.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1218194]Because they switched from 3-4 to 4-3 the second year and he was only there for 3 years.[/quote]

Who's they? They as in "not Rob Ryan?" Or Rob Ryan made the switch?

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1218189]He had the number 2 defense while at the saints. We haven't seen that since GW.[/quote]

That was the only year he had a top 10 defense in 12 years as s defensive coordinator.

His defenses in the bottom half of the league in 10 of 12 years and 24th or worse 7 of those 12 years.

As a defensive coordinator, he was atrocious. Maybe he is a LB guru, but my initial thought is this is an immense downgrade from Olivadotti

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Just because you're not a great HC/Coordinator, does not mean you can't be good position coach. [U]See[/U] Jim Tomsula.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1218197]Just because you're not a great HC/Coordinator, does not mean you can't be good position coach. [U]See[/U] Jim Tomsula.[/quote]

Tomsula was a widely successful DL coach for years before stumbling into an HC position. when you've been an utter failure as a HC/Coordinator, and completely out of the league for years.... what evidence is there that you should be handed a position coach job? Or presumption that you'll do anything other than what you've done your entire career - fail?

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[quote=mooby;1218185]You've got it wrong, Mason Foster has the work ethic, he just doesn't have the talent/athleticism. And Zach Brown has the talent/athleticism, he just doesn't have the work ethic.[/quote]

Well there you go then. Foster shouldn't even be out there to begin with. To me that is piss poor management of your team.

Insert play making rookie who can run and the girlfriend beater.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1218198]Tomsula was a widely successful DL coach for years before stumbling into an HC position. when you've been an utter failure as a HC/Coordinator, and completely out of the league for years.... what evidence is there that you should be handed a position coach job? Or presumption that you'll do anything other than what you've done your entire career - fail?[/quote]

He never worked for Tampa Bay, he's got that going for him. They must've thought he was the best candidate that would actually come to Washington. I'm willing to see instead of just saying he sucks.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1218198]Tomsula was a widely successful DL coach for years before stumbling into an HC position. when you've been an utter failure as a HC/Coordinator, and completely out of the league for years.... what evidence is there that you should be handed a position coach job? Or presumption that you'll do anything other than what you've done your entire career - fail?[/quote]

Obviously he hasn't failed everywhere he's been or he wouldn't have been coaching for almost 30 years. Somehow as a society, we've come to the point where you are either the GOAT or you suck. And if you aren't the GOAT, you shouldn't be doing X job. That's BS.. The guy has been involved with two Super Bowl winning teams and has decades of experience. I think he's worthy of a position job. Give the guy a chance..

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[quote=RedskinJake;1218202]Obviously he hasn't failed everywhere he's been or he wouldn't have been coaching for almost 30 years. Somehow as a society, we've come to the point where you are either the GOAT or you suck. And if you aren't the GOAT, you shouldn't be doing X job. That's BS.. The guy has been involved with two Super Bowl winning teams and has decades of experience. I think he's worthy of a position job. Give the guy a chance..[/quote]

Your post proves my point. Ryan isn't some unknown commodity. We have 30 years of data on him. Its not like he's some young upcoming guy we should give a chance to because he's succeeded in lower roles so there is reason to think he could succeed here. He hasn't been an LB coach in over 15 years. And that was under belicheck so you could easily argue he was just reaping the benefits of being in a great coaching staff with great players as opposed do doing anything significant of his own merit. I would argue the only reason he's had the opportunities he's had is because of the reputation of his father and brother. He's benefitted from the Ryan name. Its quite telling that he's been out of the league entirely for 2 years and the best job he could find is as the linebackers coach on the most dysfunctional team in the league.

Ryan is not bringing us hope or opportunity. He's a washed up HasBeen/NeverWas who offers zero upside.

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I'm willing to give him a shot, because somehow he managed to finagle his way into 4 coordinators jobs despite below average results (maybe it was the family name?). But if he can't coach a position group he's done.

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Legit question. Would you rather have Joe Barry or Rob Ryan coaching the inside LBs?

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[quote=mooby;1218206]I'm willing to give him a shot, because somehow he managed to finagle his way into 4 coordinators jobs despite below average results (maybe it was the family name?). But if he can't coach a position group he's done.[/quote]

He's done no matter what because Gruden is getting canned next year anyway.

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[quote=Schneed10;1218208]He's done no matter what because Gruden is getting canned next year anyway.[/quote]

You willing to bet on that? I hope that's the case but we should know better by now then to bet on DS making a smart move.

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[quote=Schneed10;1218207]Legit question. Would you rather have Joe Barry or Rob Ryan coaching the inside LBs?[/quote]
without a doubt rob ryan coaching ilb

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[quote=bigant;1218215]without a doubt rob ryan coaching ilb[/quote]

Based on what?

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Joe Barry is coaching in the SB, just saying


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Michael Phillips (beat Redskins RTD) happened to be in the same room as Rob yesterday when the news was announced...got a really quick interview:

[url]https://www.richmond.com/sports/redskins/new-redskins-assistant-rob-ryan-we-re-gonna-be-fun/article_e75e1818-9ea0-53b6-ba36-f70c9d3c54c2.html[/url]

Heard Phillips speak on local radio show coming into work and said Ryan sounded extremely excited to be on staff. Nice hearing especially after all the turmoil about people leaving.

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Who would have ever thought Rob Ryan would bring excitement to this fan base lol

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I don't feel like these are jump over the moon, super exciting moves, but I see coaches who are vets (sans O'Connell) and quite simply, the guys before weren't getting it done. Maybe a some new voices were needed and we can see some improvement.

The only cringe I really got was the Special Teams coach replacement...Our Teams have been solid...Bruce chose to go with another "Tampa guy" who hasn't had success. I thought we could have done better there.

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[quote=Chico23231;1218225]I don't feel like these are jump over the moon, super exciting moves, but I see coaches who are vets (sans O'Connell) and quite simply, the guys before weren't getting it done. Maybe a some new voices were needed and we can see some improvement.

The only cringe I really got was the Special Teams coach replacement...Our Teams have been solid...Bruce chose to go with another "Tampa guy" who hasn't had success. I thought we could have done better there.[/quote]

I think it is at the very least an effort to show growth for the future, which looked very bleak just a few weeks ago. If they draft a QB (probably will) in the 1st round and you match him with O'Connell then I'll get pumped again.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218226]I think it is at the very least an effort to show growth for the future, which looked very bleak just a few weeks ago. If they draft a QB (probably will) in the 1st round and you match him with O'Connell then I'll get pumped again.[/quote]

We would be screaming Super Bowl run soon enough!

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At least Rob Ryan has good hair.

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[quote=metalskins;1218235]At least Rob Ryan has good hair.[/quote]

He should wear clown shoes.

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Old dudes with long hair look ridiculous


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[quote=MTK;1218263]Old dudes with long hair look ridiculous


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Rob is from a small okie town, at least his brother grew out of that faze...

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[quote=MTK;1218263]Old dudes with long hair look ridiculous


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I would totally do it long if I could...I gotta couple friends who still have it, they were blessed with zero receding hairline and limited losing it in the back. those bastards. mid teens, through my first couple years of college I kept it fairly long...90s girls loved that shit