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Thoughts? Think Haskins starts at some point this year?

Went with the safe option and I'm ok with it.

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So far Keenum has been the better QB and provides the team a chance to win while Haskins matures. This is a very good team, putting Haskins there right now is too risky, maybe by mid season. I bet Keenum will have short leash on him.

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Snore

Wake me up when Haskins gets in there


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It is what it is, Jay needs the vet QB to run his offense. If things go south Haskins will b in there

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In other news, grass is green and the sky is blue.

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There wasn't a competition. I can't wait for Gruden to get his ass out of here.

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Not surprised. Just wasting time with Keenum. He didn't do anything to actually win the job. They're starting him cause he's played more games.

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[QUOTE=httr198020;1227643]There wasn't a competition. I can't wait for Gruden to get his ass out of here.[/QUOTE]Haskins isn't ready for Philly.

Schwartz would literally kill him blitzing from everywhere with two weeks to prepare.

That's a difficult, pressure based defense to play against for veterans.

It's the right move.

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Will Haskins play in the last preseason game?

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He should definitely play in the last preseason game, why not?

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Yeah, this is no surprise. Case's experience will potentially net a few more wins this year, especially early on. However, I don't expect him to start more games than Haskins over the course of the entire year.

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Def want him out there the first 5 games

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1227646]Haskins isn't ready for Philly.

Schwartz would literally kill him blitzing from everywhere with two weeks to prepare.

That's a difficult, pressure based defense to play against for veterans.

It's the right move.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk[/quote]This team won't be ready for anybody with Jay Gruden as our HC. We might pull off a few lucky wins. But sooner or later this team will collapse just like they do every year.

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While not excited by this "news", I have no issue with it as itself.

I have an issue with it being announced so early though.

One of the slight advantage we had over Philly in this game is they didn't know which QB to game plan for. Now they do.

There are only 16 games in an NFL season, how you can throw away a small thing that could even slightly help you win one is beyond me.

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How much better place are we when the debate is between a QB that led a team to nfc championship few years ago and a rookie that has a huge chance to be a long term answer at the position!! My worst fear is throwing The rook to the wolves behind a sketchy OL and him getting hurt and a big set back.. we will know after the real games start what we have in Case .. if he sucks then maybe Haskins .. but I’m with a lot of you who agree with starting Case with that tough starting schedule..

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I have no issues with it. It is the right decision.I am looking forward to the season. I think Haskins starts after week 5.

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The bigger question will be who starts on the online.

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It's not a schedule thing for me. Right now Case is the better and more experienced QB. There's no value in sending out the less experienced guy, unless he totally separated himself from the competition, which he clearly did not. That's no way to get the rest of the team to buy into what you're doing either. Haskins will get his chance eventually...

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1227660]It's not a schedule thing for me. Right now Case is the better and more experienced QB. There's no value in sending out the less experienced guy, unless he totally separated himself from the competition, which he clearly did not. That's no way to get the rest of the team to buy into what you're doing either. Haskins will get his chance eventually...[/quote]

+1

You guys are mad Haskins didn't get the job by default, since when has Gruden ever adjusted his scheme to run what a player knows? Gruden has never adjusted his scheme for a qb, except in the emergency situation last year.

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If you start Keenum and Keenum fails, you can go to Haskins in a situation where he can take his time and learn. On the other hand if you start with Haskins and he fails and you go to Keenum, you wonder if you just f’d his confidence. It’s an obvious choice.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1227660]It's not a schedule thing for me. Right now Case is the better and more experienced QB. There's no value in sending out the less experienced guy, unless he totally separated himself from the competition, which he clearly did not. That's no way to get the rest of the team to buy into what you're doing either. Haskins will get his chance eventually...[/quote]These are my thoughts exactly. I do not want to screw with Haskins' growth and confidence and throw him to the wolves right away. Keenum is the safer bet and has done things before in this league whether people wanna recognize it or not. Haskins has work to do- footwork, accuracy, etc. His Big X days are over.

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[quote=httr198020;1227643]There wasn't a competition. I can't wait for Gruden to get his ass out of here.[/quote]

And he can take Allen with him, they are both proven losers. You are what your record says you are.

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[quote=MTK;1227639]Snore

Wake me up when Haskins gets in there


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Haha. True.

Do you think Gruden's contract situation will impact how much Haskins plays? It seems like if JG and DH can show a glimmer of hope for the future than ownership might give JG an extension. If not than DH will be starting over again with a new coach and a new system. At some point this year the team has to see if JG and DH are a good match.

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FWIW Case has been the 3rd highest graded passer through pre-season. Now mostly that is due to him not playing very much but still worthy of being mentioned.

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[quote=Schneed10;1227664]If you start Keenum and Keenum fails, you can go to Haskins in a situation where he can take his time and learn. On the other hand if you start with Haskins and he fails and you go to Keenum, you wonder if you just f’d his confidence. It’s an obvious choice.[/quote]

You hit the nail on the head. This is the way to go.

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Haskins could start now and he'd be ok but why rush him into the lineup with a bad LT and average WR? Let the veteran take those snaps for now.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1227674]Haskins could start now and he'd be ok but why rush him into the lineup with a bad LT and average WR? Let the veteran take those snaps for now.[/quote]

And the most brutal portion of the schedule.

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Yawn, pretty much what I expected. Like Matty said, wake me when Haskins gets in there.

When Keenum starts out 1 TD and 4 or 5 Ints, people will want Haskins in. So onward to Philly

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Run the offense through Guice and AP and change some schematic things plays to Case’s strength....he can perform as well as Alex last year.

I don’t know why, but I feel much better about the WR position going into this year than last.

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[quote=Chico23231;1227682]Run the offense through Guice and AP and change some schematic things plays to Case’s strength....he can perform as well as Alex last year.

[B]I don’t know why, but I feel much better about the WR position going into this year than last[/B].[/quote]

They need to play Terry and Harmon as much as possible, go young. Prich will be available for like 6 games and then he'll be off and on injured (hate to be negative).

Reed has to have the best yr of his career if this offense wants to score 24 PPG. Running the football in todays league only gets you so far.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1227671]FWIW Case has been the 3rd highest graded passer through pre-season. Now mostly that is due to him not playing very much but still worthy of being mentioned.[/quote]

It means nothing. He has several years of tape that shows he's a back up.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1227676]Yawn, pretty much what I expected. Like Matty said, wake me when Haskins gets in there.

When Keenum starts out 1 TD and 4 or 5 Ints, people will want Haskins in. So onward to Philly[/quote]

This is how I feel. We're just prolonging the enevidible.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1227685]They need to play Terry and Harmon as much as possible, go young. Prich will be available for like 6 games and then he'll be off and on injured (hate to be negative).

Reed has to have the best yr of his career if this offense wants to score 24 PPG. Running the football in todays league only gets you so far.[/quote]

What’s the biggest weapon in today game? RBs who can be used in the passing game.

Gurley, Kamara, McCaffery, Saquon, Zeke (added to game last year). I think Guice has that skill set...incorporate that in our offense. Put CT on the field more on 1st down, he can do both.

Man I really hope Reed is ready as well. Vernon had a good camp. Sprinkle has turned a corner from camp reports.

So with an unproven WR set of receivers, we have better options in the passing game, but the staff needs to scheme it.

One thing with receivers: P Rich and Terry can fly...use their speed. Quinn supposedly has the best hands on the team, get the ball to him on 3rd down when we need to move chains.

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This is good news. Flowers will get the first QB killed.
Hopefully this buys time for Wes Martin to get ready to take over at LG.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1227686]It means nothing. He has several years of tape that shows he's a back up.[/quote]

My favorite preseason Hall of Fame member was Thomas Clayton. In his rookie and sophomore season he was the NFL preseason rushing leader. He bounced around the league for 5 years total and piled up 15 carries for 29 yards all in garbage time to boot. Both the Browns and Lions were 4-0 in preseason before going 0-16.

It seems like preseason is pretty meaningless except for players on the bubble trying to make the final cuts. They should cut it to 2 games or get rid of it all together.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1227664]If you start Keenum and Keenum fails, you can go to Haskins in a situation where he can take his time and learn. On the other hand if you start with Haskins and he fails and you go to Keenum, you wonder if you just f’d his confidence. It’s an obvious choice.[/QUOTE]



Very good point. I think Haskins starts after game 5 when we are 0-5 or 1-4. I will be pissed if we suck and Case plays the entire season.


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