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5superbowls3wins 08-26-2019 10:15 PM

Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[url]https://www.totalprosports.com/2019/08/26/jadeveon-clowney-seems-to-indicate-that-he-wants-to-get-traded-to-the-washington-redskins-video/[/url]


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SFREDSKIN 08-26-2019 10:18 PM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
Good for him, don’t need him, need a LT.

5superbowls3wins 08-26-2019 10:18 PM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1227727]Good for him, don’t need him, need a LT.[/QUOTE]



Agreed.


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skinsfaninok 08-27-2019 08:02 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
If we trade for Clowney I won't be mad but I'd rather have a LT or WR in return

Schneed10 08-27-2019 08:09 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
Article is from 2015.

KI Skins Fan 08-27-2019 08:15 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
Somebody here mentioned a possible 3-way deal where Houston gets Williams, Miami gets Clowney and the Skins get Tunsil (with some other draft picks involved). [U]If Williams is truly done with the Skins[/U], that would be a good trade, IMO. I have no idea if there is any substance to 3-way trade talks.

KI Skins Fan 08-27-2019 08:18 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=Schneed10;1227734]Article is from 2015.[/quote]

You're such a nit-picker! That's a mere four years ago.

Schneed10 08-27-2019 08:22 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1227736]You're such a nit-picker! That's a mere four years ago.[/quote]

Actually forgive me I read the wrong line, the line I read said the writer has been with this site since 2015, the article itself is from this week.

Still not putting stock in it. If the Skins took on Clowney and gave up Trent, it would be a net hurt to our available cap space, which we don't have a lot of as it is.

As for the three way trade idea with Miami, I mean I'd like a date with Kate Upton if we're going to enter fantasy land.

skinsfaninok 08-27-2019 08:53 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
Miami would be insane to trade Tunsil, he is BY FAR and not even close their best lineman

KI Skins Fan 08-27-2019 10:14 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1227738]Miami would be insane to trade Tunsil, he is BY FAR and not even close their best lineman[/quote]

But what if they [U]are[/U] crazy? Huh? Huh?

MTK 08-27-2019 10:24 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
Clowney would make this defense insane. Plus it's not too early to start thinking about life after Kerrigan.

DYoungJelly 08-27-2019 10:55 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1227744]Clowney would make this defense insane. Plus it's not too early to start thinking about life after Kerrigan.[/QUOTE]Is the old adage, can never have too many elite pass rushers.

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skinsfan69 08-27-2019 11:00 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
Don't need him. Injury prone with a bad knee. Keep building with our own w/ guys like #58.

sdskinsfan2001 08-27-2019 11:37 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
Silverback/Anderson for Clowney/Howard. I'd do that Trade if this holdout goes past week 1.

skinsfaninok 08-27-2019 11:39 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
Per the NFL's internal report, the teams with the most cap space this AM, 5 days away from the cutdown.

1) Colts $56.6M
2) Texans $37.0M
3) Browns $34.6M
4) Cowboys $26.1M
5) Titans $26.0M
6) 49ers $25.5M
7) Bills $23.3M
8) Dolphins $22.1M
9) Bears $22.1M
10) Redskins $21.7M

Schneed10 08-27-2019 12:18 PM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1227753]Per the NFL's internal report, the teams with the most cap space this AM, 5 days away from the cutdown.

1) Colts $56.6M
2) Texans $37.0M
3) Browns $34.6M
4) Cowboys $26.1M
5) Titans $26.0M
6) 49ers $25.5M
7) Bills $23.3M
8) Dolphins $22.1M
9) Bears $22.1M
10) Redskins $21.7M[/quote]

Can you please link me to that? Overthecap has us at $11.3M in available space, and Spotrac has us at $8.9M. I can't understand how they get to $21.7M unless

a) they're handling incentives somehow differently, ie not counting the likely to be earned

b) they're not rolling over the available cap space from previous seasons

c) they're not counting Trent

Everyone settle on item C, I'm joking, I'm sure they're counting Trent. But I need to understand this because I don't think you can use it.

skinsfaninok 08-27-2019 12:42 PM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=Schneed10;1227754]Can you please link me to that? Overthecap has us at $11.3M in available space, and Spotrac has us at $8.9M. I can't understand how they get to $21.7M unless

a) they're handling incentives somehow differently, ie not counting the likely to be earned

b) they're not rolling over the available cap space from previous seasons

c) they're not counting Trent

Everyone settle on item C, I'm joking, I'm sure they're counting Trent. But I need to understand this because I don't think you can use it.[/quote]

This was from Albert Breer

And per the same report, the teams with the least cap space this AM, 5 days from the cutdown.

1) Falcons $3.4M
2) Bucs $4.3M
3) Broncos $4.4M
4) Cardinals $4.7M
5) Vikings $4.7M
6) Steelers $4.9M
7) Giants $5.5M
8) Rams $5.6M
9) Panthers $5.9M
10) Saints $7.5M

This includes the Top 51 cap numbers on every team's roster. Obviously, after the cutdown, that shifts to all of the 53-man roster. These are relevant, of course, for trades, extensions to be done this week.

Schneed10 08-27-2019 01:22 PM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1227756]This was from Albert Breer

And per the same report, the teams with the least cap space this AM, 5 days from the cutdown.

1) Falcons $3.4M
2) Bucs $4.3M
3) Broncos $4.4M
4) Cardinals $4.7M
5) Vikings $4.7M
6) Steelers $4.9M
7) Giants $5.5M
8) Rams $5.6M
9) Panthers $5.9M
10) Saints $7.5M

This includes the Top 51 cap numbers on every team's roster. Obviously, after the cutdown, that shifts to all of the 53-man roster. These are relevant, of course, for trades, extensions to be done this week.[/quote]

Can you provide link? I want to analyze. I believe it to be incomplete.

skinsfaninok 08-27-2019 01:25 PM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=Schneed10;1227757]Can you provide link? I want to analyze. I believe it to be incomplete.[/quote]

I asked for one but he said a link isn't available so I'd imagine its his inside info.

EdmundDorf 08-27-2019 05:29 PM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
Looking at OTC they must be counting a TW trade which would save $11.05m, plus the $11.3m we already have minus the $645K for the next onto the 51 would leave $21.7m. No other way I can see that number being generated.

CrustyRedskin 08-27-2019 09:03 PM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1227753]Per the NFL's internal report, the teams with the most cap space this AM, 5 days away from the cutdown.

1) Colts $56.6M
2) Texans $37.0M
3) Browns $34.6M
4) Cowboys $26.1M
5) Titans $26.0M
6) 49ers $25.5M
7) Bills $23.3M
8) Dolphins $22.1M
9) Bears $22.1M
10) Redskins $21.7M[/quote]

I'm no cap guru but I guess that's the Cowboys cap before they pay DP, Cooper and Big Head Todd.

Schneed10 08-27-2019 10:50 PM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1227759]I asked for one but he said a link isn't available so I'd imagine its his inside info.[/quote]

:rolleyes:

gtfoh

skinsfaninok 08-28-2019 07:46 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=Schneed10;1227798]:rolleyes:

gtfoh[/quote]

thats why he makes the big bucks I guess

mredskins 08-28-2019 07:46 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[url]https://nesn.com/2019/08/nfl-rumors-jadeveon-clowney-would-prefer-trade-to-one-of-these-two-nfc-teams/[/url]

skinsfaninok 08-28-2019 07:55 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=mredskins;1227808][url]https://nesn.com/2019/08/nfl-rumors-jadeveon-clowney-would-prefer-trade-to-one-of-these-two-nfc-teams/[/url][/quote]

Trent isn't getting traded, so we are not in the clowney race regardless

Schneed10 08-28-2019 08:07 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1227807]thats why he makes the big bucks I guess[/quote]

Please avoid posting stuff that any reasonable person with a brain knows is bullshit.

skinsfaninok 08-28-2019 08:27 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=Schneed10;1227810]Please avoid posting stuff that any reasonable person with a brain knows is bullshit.[/quote]

I don't follow cap numbers, I know you are good with that stuff, but I would imagine Albert Breer who works for the NFL knows his stuff.

Schneed10 08-28-2019 08:35 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1227812]I don't follow cap numbers, I know you are good with that stuff, but I would imagine Albert Breer who works for the NFL knows his stuff.[/quote]

Yet you can't provide a link

skinsfaninok 08-28-2019 08:40 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=Schneed10;1227814]Yet you can't provide a link[/quote]

its a thread on his twitter , why would I make that up lol

skinsfaninok 08-28-2019 08:41 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[URL="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1166377913203273728"]https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1166377913203273728[/URL]

Here ya go

Schneed10 08-28-2019 09:05 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1227816][URL="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1166377913203273728"]https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1166377913203273728[/URL]

Here ya go[/quote]

Thank you, that wasn't so hard now was it. That is indeed what someone asks for when they request a link, for future reference.

There's no more detail available because he doesn't show the internal report.

But overthecap has the Colts at $56M in available space, and so does Breer's tweet. Overthecap has the Texans at $37M and so does Breer's tweet. The Falcons are at $3.6M on both. The Vikings are at $5M on both. The Giants are at $5M - $6M on both. The Saints are at $7M on both.

Yet Overthecap has us at $11M and Breer's tweet from the internal report has us at $21M.

Given that it's on point for so many teams and not us, it lends credence to Breer's numbers and it makes me think it's possible that there was a Redskins transaction somewhere along the line that Overthecap has missed. Is Trent included? Was there a change in the Alex Smith contract somehow? Did Scherff get extended and it just flew under everybody's radar?

It sucks not having access to the underlying information. I wish the NFL would make the official data available.

skinsfaninok 08-28-2019 09:12 AM

Re: Jadeveon Clowney Wants to Be a Skin?
 
[quote=Schneed10;1227819]Thank you, that wasn't so hard now was it. That is indeed what someone asks for when they request a link, for future reference.

There's no more detail available because he doesn't show the internal report.

But overthecap has the Colts at $56M in available space, and so does Breer's tweet. Overthecap has the Texans at $37M and so does Breer's tweet. The Falcons are at $3.6M on both. The Vikings are at $5M on both. The Giants are at $5M - $6M on both. The Saints are at $7M on both.

Yet Overthecap has us at $11M and Breer's tweet from the internal report has us at $21M.

Given that it's on point for so many teams and not us, it lends credence to Breer's numbers and it makes me think it's possible that there was a Redskins transaction somewhere along the line that Overthecap has missed. Is Trent included? Was there a change in the Alex Smith contract somehow? Did Scherff get extended and it just flew under everybody's radar?

It sucks not having access to the underlying information. I wish the NFL would make the official data available.[/quote]

I tried at first but the link was corrupt or some shit so I just pasted, I agree wish they would let the data out. I would think Dallas is only on that list due to Dak, Cooper , Zeke not being paid.


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