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mooby 08-31-2019 12:17 PM

Redskins Roster Cuts 2019
 
Keim's twitter feed is a solid source for anyone looking for specifics.
[url]https://twitter.com/john_keim[/url]

I'll start with this:

Cam Sims cut: [url]https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1167822061366140928[/url]

Adonis Alexander cut; possible PS candidate:
[url]https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1167831944513642496[/url]

Doctson will be cut if no takers for a trade (already tried trading him before, so probably cut)
[url]https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1167828620875898880[/url]

Steven Sims beat out Cam Sims for that roster spot:
[url]https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1167806183165562880[/url]

Buffalo Bob 08-31-2019 12:33 PM

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Great news on Docston if true. I was afraid they were going to keep him.

DYoungJelly 08-31-2019 12:35 PM

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Doctson cut.

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CRedskinsRule 08-31-2019 12:42 PM

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1228077]Doctson cut.

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Buffalo Bob 08-31-2019 12:45 PM

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1228077]Doctson cut.

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Great, I guess no one was willing to trade a box of day old doughnuts for him.

DynamiteRave 08-31-2019 12:49 PM

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I hope Reaves and Holtz make it onto the practice squad.


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calia 08-31-2019 01:03 PM

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Sounds like Reaves and Perine also cut.


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calia 08-31-2019 01:03 PM

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Flanagan and Parham cut. TEs will be unchanged it seems.


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calia 08-31-2019 01:04 PM

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1228082]I hope Reaves and Holtz make it onto the practice squad.


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Me too. Also my with Bee and Cam Sims. I think at least Sims gets snapped up.


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CRedskinsRule 08-31-2019 01:37 PM

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Sounds like they are releasing Gruden favorites. Glad to see that

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sdskinsfan2001 08-31-2019 02:19 PM

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Holtz and Flanagan both cut? I figured we would try to keep 1 of them.

sdskinsfan2001 08-31-2019 02:20 PM

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Awesome for Steve Sims. Came in and took someone's roster spot.

KI Skins Fan 08-31-2019 02:35 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1228090]Awesome for Steve Sims. Came in and took someone's roster spot.[/quote]

He's explosive.

FrenchSkin 08-31-2019 02:51 PM

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Perine AND Doctson cut ? Did Jay decided he was done selecting losers as adopted sons ? Open up the champaign !

On the other hand I thought Bee, Reaves and Kidsy earned their spots... apparently not.

NC_Skins 08-31-2019 03:56 PM

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1228075]Great news on Docston if true. I was afraid they were going to keep him.[/quote]

If I had a dime for every excuse made for Docston, I'd have Danny Snyder money. Dude was a straight up bust from day 1. Period. Full stop. END OF FUCKING STORY.

Buffalo Bob 08-31-2019 04:10 PM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1228092]Perine AND Doctson cut ? Did Jay decided he was done selecting losers as adopted sons ? Open up the champaign !

On the other hand I thought Bee, Reaves and Kidsy earned their spots... apparently not.[/quote]

As long as those two guys are gone I am happy.

calia 08-31-2019 04:27 PM

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I am annoyed. Would rather have Cam Sims or Jeremy Reaves over DRC.


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DYoungJelly 08-31-2019 04:42 PM

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1228089]Holtz and Flanagan both cut? I figured we would try to keep 1 of them.[/QUOTE]I think Flanagan was released with an injury designation.

He will go on IR if he clears waivers.

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FrenchSkin 08-31-2019 05:03 PM

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[quote=calia;1228097]I am annoyed. Would rather have Cam Sims or Jeremy Reaves over DRC.


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100% agreed. See absolutely no point in keeping DRC. Maybe cap implications ? Did he get a significant signing bonus ?

EDIT: not per [URL="https://overthecap.com/player/dominique-rodgers-cromartie/464/"]OTC[/URL] ...

Warthog 08-31-2019 05:53 PM

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Glad the Gruden favs Perine and Doctson we’re finally dumped. I now think that Gruden was talking up Doctson in the pre-season to try to get him traded.

The thing I can’t figure out was why the team let Garçon, Jackson and Crowder go -all 1,000 yd WR leave and keep a loser like Doctson. Is The team so short-sighted?


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DYoungJelly 08-31-2019 06:29 PM

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I've always wondered how much stroke everybody in the organization has on roster decisions.

Bruce keeps everything murky on purpose.

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BigHairedAristocrat 08-31-2019 07:03 PM

Redskins Roster Cuts 2019
 
[QUOTE=Warthog;1228103]Glad the Gruden favs Perine and Doctson we’re finally dumped. I now think that Gruden was talking up Doctson in the pre-season to try to get him traded.

The thing I can’t figure out was why the team let Garçon, Jackson and Crowder go -all 1,000 yd WR leave and keep a loser like Doctson. Is The team so short-sighted?


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Desean Jackson and garçon left two years ago for lucrative contracts when we had JUST drafted doctson on his rookie deal. Scot McCloughan was calling the shots then and he clearly believed in Doctson.

And we let crowder go in the same offseason that we let Doctson go - this one. Crowder got paid far more than we would have and we have Trey Quinn who is basically a younger cheaper Crowder.


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SFREDSKIN 08-31-2019 07:24 PM

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[quote=calia;1228097]I am annoyed. Would rather have Cam Sims or Jeremy Reaves over DRC.


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Agreed!!

NC_Skins 08-31-2019 08:54 PM

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This is his NFL career summed up in one play.


[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUve_EEv_9g&feature=youtu.be&t=403[/url]

mooby 08-31-2019 09:06 PM

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[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27492267/nfl-cuts-all-32-teams-out#WSH[/url]

Here's the total list of cuts per ESPN:
Released: WR Josh Doctson, WR Jehu Chesson, WR Darvin Kidzy Jr., WR Brian Quick, DL Andrew Ankrah, OL Hugh Thornton, DL Ryan Bee, OL Zac Kerin, CB Adonis Alexander, RB Samaje Perine, LB B.J. Blunt, S Jeremy Reaves, DL JoJo Wicker, S JoJo McIntosh, CB Ashton Lampkin, DL Khairi Clark, DL Austin Maloata, DL Jonathan Bonner, CB Deion Harris, CB D.J. White, OL Blake Hance, OT Timon Parris, RB Craig Reynolds, QB Jalan McClendon, OL Jerald Foster, OL Corey Robinson, TE Matt Flanagan, TE J.P. Holtz, WR Cam Sims, LB Gary Johnson, TE Donald Parham Jr., LB Marquis Flowers, LB Marcus Smith II
Waived/injured: TE Matt Flanagan
PUP: QB Alex Smith, CB Danny Johnson
Reserve/non-football injury list: RB Bryce Love

Brian Quick is the only other name that stands out, but he's a JAG. We already mentioned Perine, I mean we heard good things about him in camp but it never translated to any of the games.

CRedskinsRule 08-31-2019 09:23 PM

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Sorry to see Reynolds cut. Hope we get him to the practice squad.

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Warthog 08-31-2019 09:32 PM

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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1228106]Desean Jackson and garçon left two years ago for lucrative contracts when we had JUST drafted doctson on his rookie deal. Scot McCloughan was calling the shots then and he clearly believed in Doctson.

And we let crowder go in the same offseason that we let Doctson go - this one. Crowder got paid far more than we would have and we have Trey Quinn who is basically a younger cheaper Crowder.


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Due to getting some undrafted free agents and very low draft picks (like Terry Quinn who was a 7th rounder) in the WR group is the reason that group has come back. Getting a walk-on to make the roster, much less become a premium player, is a freaking miracle.

Steve Sims- undrafted
Terry Quinn - 7th round
Harmon - 6 th round

Of course the Redskins will claim it was all part of the plan for WR. But whether it was because we thought the players like DJax or Garçon or Crowder were getting too expensive or too old it was pretty much blind luck that we rebuilt the WR group this year.


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calia 09-01-2019 02:58 AM

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[QUOTE=Warthog;1228121]Due to getting some undrafted free agents and very low draft picks (like Terry Quinn who was a 7th rounder) in the WR group is the reason that group has come back. Getting a walk-on to make the roster, much less become a premium player, is a freaking miracle.

Steve Sims- undrafted
Terry Quinn - 7th round
Harmon - 6 th round

Of course the Redskins will claim it was all part of the plan for WR. But whether it was because we thought the players like DJax or Garçon or Crowder were getting too expensive or too old it was pretty much blind luck that we rebuilt the WR group this year.


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None of these guys has had an NFL catch yet. Great promise, yes. Established WR come back, not yet.


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AnonEmouse 09-01-2019 05:03 AM

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Trey Quinn has 9 catches in regular season action. Not sure who Terry Quinn is, but he does have 0 catches...

Warthog 09-01-2019 09:45 AM

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[QUOTE=calia;1228132]None of these guys has had an NFL catch yet. Great promise, yes. Established WR come back, not yet.


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My point exactly. We let 1000 Yd, proven WR walk out the door and are banking on rebuilding the WR crew based solely on POTENTIAL. If that potential turns into catches and TDs, then it was partially due to the blind luck of walk-ons and very low draft picks who RARELY workout.


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Warthog 09-01-2019 09:46 AM

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1228134]Trey Quinn has 9 catches in regular season action. Not sure who Terry Quinn is, but he does have 0 catches...[/QUOTE]



You got me. Getting old sucks as all the marbles slowly drain out of your brain!


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Kope 09-01-2019 11:05 AM

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[quote=NC_Skins;1228116]This is his NFL career summed up in one play.


[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUve_EEv_9g&feature=youtu.be&t=403[/url][/quote]

So true, I laughed when I watched but it is sad. He is the latest in a list of undead WRs we have drafted in the first 3 rounds: Doctson, Hankerson, Thomas, Kelly, Jacobs, Russell, Gardner, Westbrook, Winans.......on and on to 1980 when we drafted King Arthur the Monk.

(as a complete aside look at the names in the 1981 draft: Mark May, Russ Grimm, Dexter Manley, Charlie Brown, Clint Didier. Just wow)

HTTR 09-01-2019 11:42 AM

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A draft and a roster cut-down that make it look as though we have an adult in the room in Ashburn. Meanwhile, TW would rather flush 100 dollar bills down the toilet than play for our clown prez and owner. Is Eric Schaffer quietly taking over as GM? Has the minority ownership group written DS a stern memo about BA and other idiocies? Is DW a better talent evaluator than we give him credit for? Who is the adult?

Warthog 09-01-2019 11:56 AM

Redskins Roster Cuts 2019
 
[QUOTE=HTTR;1228163]A draft and a roster cut-down that make it look as though we have an adult in the room in Ashburn. Meanwhile, TW would rather flush 100 dollar bills down the toilet than play for our clown prez and owner. Is Eric Schaffer quietly taking over as GM? Has the minority ownership group written DS a stern memo about BA and other idiocies? Is DW a better talent evaluator than we give him credit for? Who is the adult?[/QUOTE]



It was a good cut to the 53 and I’m happy they finally got rid of deadwood like Doctson, Quick and Perrine. As for TW burning $100 this year by not coming in: that’s his decision and the team’s leadership should have believed him and made a good trade to minimize the damage.


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CRedskinsRule 09-01-2019 12:44 PM

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[quote=HTTR;1228163]A draft and a roster cut-down that make it look as though we have an adult in the room in Ashburn. Meanwhile, TW would rather flush 100 dollar bills down the toilet than play for our clown prez and owner. Is Eric Schaffer quietly taking over as GM? Has the minority ownership group written DS a stern memo about BA and other idiocies? Is DW a better talent evaluator than we give him credit for? Who is the adult?[/quote]
The roster cut down is open for debate. We still have 5 qb's on roster including AS on PUP, and Woodford on IR. Why we need Colt at all is beyond me, and that roster space could have gone to another TE (where we have an oft injured TE, an aging vet, and a decent #3), or to keep the Cam Simms even with his one off performance, or Craig Reynolds who sparked a lot.

FrenchSkin 09-01-2019 12:59 PM

Re: Redskins Roster Cuts 2019
 
[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1228169]The roster cut down is open for debate. We still have 5 qb's on roster including AS on PUP, and Woodford on IR. Why we need Colt at all is beyond me, and that roster space could have gone to another TE (where we have an oft injured TE, an aging vet, and a decent #3), or to keep the Cam Simms even with his one off performance, or Craig Reynolds who sparked a lot.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% but Doctson's and Perine's cuts made my day. Can't expect too many good decisions in one day from this FO/HC...

Hope Bee, Reaves, Holtz, Flanagan and Co end up on our PS !

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Kope 09-01-2019 01:06 PM

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[quote=HTTR;1228163]A draft and a roster cut-down that make it look as though we have an adult in the room in Ashburn. Meanwhile, TW would rather flush 100 dollar bills down the toilet than play for our clown prez and owner. Is Eric Schaffer quietly taking over as GM? Has the minority ownership group written DS a stern memo about BA and other idiocies? Is DW a better talent evaluator than we give him credit for? Who is the adult?[/quote]

I have thought about this and wonder if Doug Williams is the adult. A facilitator that gets separated or opposing parties to compromise and follow a shared vision.

Eric Schaffer has been there for 16 years (wow) and slowly worked his way up. Maybe he is the one who is adulting.

Most likely I think it is the combination of DW and Shaffer working together with Gruden. Say what you want about Jay but he has been professional and an adult - starting when he benched RG3 for Kirk.

Kyle Smith should be given a lot of credit. The last draft he set the board and
it was clear there is a vision of what defines a Skin: character, production and speed. This could be a combination of Jay and Smith facilitated by DW and Shaffer.

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-01-2019 01:22 PM

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Byron Marshall cut after claiming Wendel Smallwood

Chico23231 09-01-2019 01:25 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1228174]Byron Marshall cut after claiming Wendel Smallwood[/quote]

Great move...Smallwood just a better player and we get some offense intel for week 1

FrenchSkin 09-01-2019 01:30 PM

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1228171]I agree 100% but Doctson's and Perine's cuts made my day. Can't expect too many good decisions in one day from this FO/HC...

Hope Bee, Reaves, Holtz, Flanagan and Co end up on our PS !

Envoyé de mon SM-J320FN en utilisant Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Bee, Holtz and Cam Sims to our PS per John Keim !

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