Offseason: Around the NFL
 

Figured we should have an around the NFL offseason thread.

And that seemed like a good reason to start it:

[URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/02/19/report-nfl-will-add-playoff-team-to-each-conference-beginning-this-season/"]NFL likely to expend Playoffs from 12 to 14 teams[/URL]

I personally like it, doesn't make playoffs any longer, and still creates 2 more wild card games.

What do you guys think ?

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I hate adding more teams. Baseball is talking about doing it too. More money for owners is all it is.

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Would we rather have more regular season games or more playoff games? The answer is pretty easy for me.


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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1244990]I hate adding more teams. Baseball is talking about doing it too. More money for owners is all it is.[/quote]

I would hate adding one round to the playoffs, but adding wild card games doesn't change the structure of the playoffs so I like it.

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Allowing more 8-8 teams?? No thanks

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[QUOTE=MTK;1244991]Would we rather have more regular season games or more playoff games? The answer is pretty easy for me.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Well apparently we are getting an extra regular season game and an extra playoff team.

Not a fan of the seventh playoff team. It means the first weekend you could have 4ea 8win 9loss teams(or worse) playing.
2 seed vs 7th (7th seed likely is no better than 8 and 9)
And 4th seed(worst division winner potential 8 and 9 record or worse 7 and 10) vs the best wild card team, likely an 11 or 12 win team.


Maybe they can change the seeding to minimize it but with the 17game season there will be lots of mediocre football during wildcard weekend.

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8 game regular season for seeding purposes. Every team makes the playoffs. Then have an NCAA tournament structure for the championship.

You get a playoff spot and you get a playoff spot and you get a playoff spot!!

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I like them subtracting one preseason game and adding a regular game. The last PS game was such a non-event as none of the starters played. It was the battle of players about to be cut, playing each other.

Three PS games is enough.


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[IMG]https://www.foodchallenges.com/wp-content/uploads/rtMedia/users/11/2018/01/583-The-Big-Texan-72oz-Steak-Challenge-e1516651761992.jpg[/IMG]



Baltimore Ravens starting OL Bradley Bozeman ate 4.5 POUNDS of steak -- PLUS FIXINGS -- at dinner Wednesday night ... and the dude hardly broke a sweat!!!

The epic meal went down in Amarillo, Texas at "The Big Texan Steak Ranch" ... where Lamar Jackson's personal protector decided to take on the restaurant's famous food challenge.

Here's the deal ... ya gotta kill a 72-ounce steak, a shrimp cocktail, a baked potato, a salad and a roll with butter in under 1 hour -- and winners get a FREE T-SHIRT (plus, the meal is free and you get your name on the wall).

Bozeman -- a 6'5", 317-pound NFL stud -- happily accepted the challenge ... and you can see in video of him chowing down, he CRUSHED it!!!

The 25-year-old finished every last bite, with more than 10 minutes to spare ... and afterward, he didn't look any worse for wear at all!!
[url]https://www.tmz.com/2020/02/20/bradley-bozeman-steak-72-ounce-food-challenge-baltimore-ravens/[/url]

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1244999]Well apparently we are getting an extra regular season game and an extra playoff team.

Not a fan of the seventh playoff team. It means the first weekend you could have 4ea 8win 9loss teams(or worse) playing.
2 seed vs 7th (7th seed likely is no better than 8 and 9)
And 4th seed(worst division winner potential 8 and 9 record or worse 7 and 10) vs the best wild card team, likely an 11 or 12 win team.


Maybe they can change the seeding to minimize it but with the 17game season there will be lots of mediocre football during wildcard weekend.

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The extra regular season game is going to be a tough sell without a significant concession by the league. Maybe getting rid of testing for weed will turn the tables.



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Not a fan of adding more teams. But the way this is being structured might not be too bad. It would mean only 1 top seed per conference would get the bye on Wild Card Weekend. That could make for good games down the stretch of the regular season as the value of the top seed is increased.

Just as long as it never gets to the point like the NBA where half of the league makes the playoffs. Hate seeing the sub 500 teams in the post season.

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[quote=SunnySide;1245021][IMG]https://www.foodchallenges.com/wp-content/uploads/rtMedia/users/11/2018/01/583-The-Big-Texan-72oz-Steak-Challenge-e1516651761992.jpg[/IMG]



Baltimore Ravens starting OL Bradley Bozeman ate 4.5 POUNDS of steak -- PLUS FIXINGS -- at dinner Wednesday night ... and the dude hardly broke a sweat!!!

The epic meal went down in Amarillo, Texas at "The Big Texan Steak Ranch" ... where Lamar Jackson's personal protector decided to take on the restaurant's famous food challenge.

Here's the deal ... ya gotta kill a 72-ounce steak, a shrimp cocktail, a baked potato, a salad and a roll with butter in under 1 hour -- and winners get a FREE T-SHIRT (plus, the meal is free and you get your name on the wall).

Bozeman -- a 6'5", 317-pound NFL stud -- happily accepted the challenge ... and you can see in video of him chowing down, he CRUSHED it!!!

The 25-year-old finished every last bite, with more than 10 minutes to spare ... and afterward, he didn't look any worse for wear at all!!
[url]https://www.tmz.com/2020/02/20/bradley-bozeman-steak-72-ounce-food-challenge-baltimore-ravens/[/url][/quote]


I have been there and it's the real deal.. People from all over try it out. I did not lol

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[QUOTE=MTK;1245023]The extra regular season game is going to be a tough sell without a significant concession by the league. Maybe getting rid of testing for weed will turn the tables.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]The article i read said the main swaying point is that with a 17game season the players percentage if revenue goes up to 48.5 percent. Even without it though, the percentage is supposed to go to 48. I imagine that [b]that[/b] is a whole lot more money flowing into the salary cap allocation.

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;1245090]Not a fan of adding more teams. But the way this is being structured might not be too bad. It would mean only 1 top seed per conference would get the bye on Wild Card Weekend. That could make for good games down the stretch of the regular season as the value of the top seed is increased.



Just as long as it never gets to the point like the NBA where half of the league makes the playoffs. Hate seeing the sub 500 teams in the post season.[/QUOTE]Half the league is 16 teams, the proposal allows 14. You will see sub 500 teams every year.

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I went back to look at the past 4 years to see the consequence of adding the team and was surprised to see only 1 team that was 8-8 would have made it in, the 2019 Steelers. So I withdraw my previous posts. The most likely way for a subpar team to get in remains a very bad division.

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Adding an extra game to the season makes no sense.

I would much rather add an extra bye and get another week of football. In fact I'd be happy to add 2 more byes and extend the season even further personally.

I still think this 17th game talk is just a bargaining chip the league can use to get what it really wants.

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[QUOTE=davy;1245136]Adding an extra game to the season makes no sense.



I would much rather add an extra bye and get another week of football. In fact I'd be happy to add 2 more byes and extend the season even further personally.



I still think this 17th game talk is just a bargaining chip the league can use to get what it really wants.[/QUOTE]We will see. Players are supposed to vote on the agreement, including a 17 game season, soon.

Apparently, the NFLPA voted 6-5 NOT to recommend the approval

[url]https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1230915404828160001[/url]

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[quote=davy;1245136]Adding an extra game to the season makes no sense.

I would much rather add an extra bye and get another week of football. In fact I'd be happy to add 2 more byes and extend the season even further personally.

I still think this 17th game talk is just a bargaining chip the league can use to get what it really wants.[/quote]

The 17th game is the only bargaining chip the NFLPA has. That and the fact that the owners want to get this done soon.

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1245138]We will see. Players are supposed to vote on the agreement, including a 17 game season, soon.

Apparently, the NFLPA voted 6-5 NOT to recommend the approval

[url]https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1230915404828160001[/url]

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I think the NFLPA leadership made that vote, but it is supposed to go now to the NFLPA team reps. I think some of the changes, such as an increase in the minimum salary (by 100k) is going to convince the masses.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1245139]The 17th game is the only bargaining chip the NFLPA has. That and the fact that the owners want to get this done soon.







I think the NFLPA leadership made that vote, but it is supposed to go now to the NFLPA team reps. I think some of the changes, such as an increase in the minimum salary (by 100k) is going to convince the masses.[/QUOTE]If the leadership is divided, I agree with you that the body of players will look at what is in it for them. But the team reps vote next and that will be far more telling as I think the team reps explain it to the players en masse.

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The New York Giants have released linebacker Alec Ogletree, a team captain during his two seasons with the team.

The team also said it had cut linebacker Kareem Martin.

Ogletree, one of the league's highest-paid inside linebackers over the past two years at $10 million per season, became a liability in pass coverage and saw his playing time diminish.

Ogletree, who turns 29 in September, was one of general manager Dave Gettleman's first major acquisitions with the Giants. They thought Ogletree could be plugged into the middle of the defense and make a significant impact after being acquired from the Los Angeles Rams in 2018 for two draft picks.

He played in 13 games each of the past two seasons. He had 80 tackles, a sack and an interception last year. He had 93 tackles, a sack and five interceptions in 2018.

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28785971/giants-release-team-captain-alec-ogletree[/url]

Hard no from me. Linebackers who cant cover are dime a dozen.

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Nate Solder on the proposed CBA:

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28821930/ot-nate-solder-says-cba-great-deal-core-players-vote-yes[/url]

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Hard to see it not passing


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Al Michaels back to MNF would be amazing:

[url]https://nypost.com/2020/03/05/espn-plotting-dream-monday-night-football-booth-al-michaels-and-peyton-manning/[/url]

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CBA to players this morning at 9 am. They have 7 days to vote.
- heard on the radio

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[quote=Ruhskins;1246009]Al Michaels back to MNF would be amazing:

[URL]https://nypost.com/2020/03/05/espn-plotting-dream-monday-night-football-booth-al-michaels-and-peyton-manning/[/URL][/quote]

MNF would be back in business with a Michaels and Manning booth.

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[quote=MTK;1245752]Hard to see it not passing


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Agreed, 2100 players vote, around 600-700 make over 1million base salary. The rest will look at the plusses in the CBA.

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[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/cowboys-reportedly-resume-talks-with-dak-prescott-offer-105-m-guaranteed-153337227.html[/url]

Cowboys reportedly resume talks with Dak Prescott, offer $105M guaranteed

Just wow

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And he said no???

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So the CBA vote is a hot mess.

Okung is suing the NFLPA through the NLRB for even bringing the vote to the players after the executive committee voted not to recommend it. [url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28872617/russell-okung-files-complaint-nflpa-nlrb[/url]

The NFLPA said players cannot change their vote after "enough had expressed interest in changing them" for the player reps to bring up a call for it.

and the NFLPA pushed the vote deadline back to Saturday in order to give players more time to look over the package.

That last one puts Dallas in a real bind with Amari Cooper's situation, if they want to double tag Prescott and him, they could have it pulled out from under them a few days before FA opens.

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Seems like they should vote on the new CBA .... an off season before the old one expires. I honestly thought this offseason would be under the old/existing rules for like a phase in period regardless of whether of the new CBA is agreed to.

To have the voting be done right before you intend to implement the new CBA right before the start of FA and during the tag decision period ... seems like its courting disaster.

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[quote=SunnySide;1246343]Seems like they should vote on the new CBA .... an off season before the old one expires. I honestly thought this offseason would be under the old/existing rules for like a phase in period regardless of whether of the new CBA is agreed to.

To have the voting be done right before you intend to implement the new CBA right before the start of FA and during the tag decision period ... seems like its courting disaster.[/quote]

I think it only takes effect for this when the new league year starts. If no deal happens we still play this year under the old CBA.

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The NFL extend Tag period again:
[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28877199/nfl-moves-franchise-tag-deadline-monday"]NFL moves franchise tag deadline to Monday after player vote delayed[/URL]

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[quote=mooby;1246348]I think it only takes effect for this when the new league year starts. If no deal happens we still play this year under the old CBA.[/quote]

That makes sense, so there is a fall back .. this year just defaults to the old CBA if a new CBA is not agreed to. Thank you

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[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28876687/source-ravens-guard-marshal-yanda-decides-retire[/url]

Ravens guard Marshal Yanda decides to retire

Wow, huge loss for the Ravens. Between him and Martin in Dallas, they have been the most talented Guards in the game. Big hole to plug...much like Cred's mom

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Neat video showing the progression of the top 15 career passing yards leaders of all time for the NFL from the days of Baugh to now.

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Vikings cut Xavier Rhodes per NFLN

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One more day for CBA voting. A ton of franchise tag decisions will be made Sunday and Monday.

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I'd rather sign Cooper and go cheaper at TE like Walker for a year.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1246726]I'd rather sign Cooper and go cheaper at TE like Walker for a year.[/quote]

I'd rather have Hooper and draft a WR. Even if we sign Hooper I still want to draft another TE

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1246734]I'd rather have Hooper and draft a WR. Even if we sign Hooper I still want to draft another TE[/quote]

I agree. This is reportedly a large class of good WR prospects.