Ryan Kerrigan - Keep Him or Let Him Go?
 

I have a Kerrigan jersey and have worn it many seasons. But this offseason, with new management, there will be a hard decision with Ryan Kerrigan.

It is easy to say - restructure and resign. But is that the best move for the team now, when they are going to draft Chase Young into his position? What does that mean for Ryan Anderson?

If Rivera drops Kerrigan he can sign with another team, including possibly a contender. It would save the team $11.7 on the cap. That money can be used to hire the best TE FA available or could get us a very good CB FA.

The biggest opportunity if Kerrigan is dropped is for Ryan Anderson. He’s younger and cheaper as the Edge backup. Kerrigan’s departure gives Anderson the opportunity he needs to show what he has.

I know there is a lot of emotion for Kerrigan. But $11.7 mill is A LOT of money that will fill a hole in the defense at CB, FS or LB through FA. It is easy to say we want Ryan to restructure, so he can retire a Redskin. But with the incredible amount of draft power invested in the DL, do we really need to spend millions on Kerrigan, when we have
Ryan Anderson?

The cap level is a zero sum game. If you spend $5-7 mill so Kerrigan can cruise off into the Redskins sunset, you reject other options for the money. What say you on this matter?


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I don't know which one of the AM radio sports talk shows it was as I flip between 3 when driving, mostly due to reception issues. They were talking Redskins and some Cowboy fan calls up and says if Kerrigan is cut loose he will end up with a star on his helmet. That would not seem right to me, kind of like a guy sleeping with his best friend's wife.

As for what to do I would try to restructure and keep him. Until last year the guy never missed a game and averaged double digit sacks.

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I think Anderson is an OLB in the 4-3, so I dont think he enters the conversation about Kerrigan..... if they want to get rid of RK they can trade him and get some picks aswell as saving on the cap..... dont think this will be settled until the draft when they know whether or not that they have Chase Young. We have plenty of cap space now so don't need to rush to a decision

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Tough call here, he's a solid player but if you are drafting Young and already have Sweat what's the point in that cap hit of Kerrigan?

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Keep him but not at his current cap number


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[quote=MTK;1245066]Keep him but not at his current cap number


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This...do an extension to reduce at like a 3 year deal where its affordable.

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Either Anderson or Kerrigan has to go, love them both. If Kerrigan restructures, being that he’s a fan favorite, he’ll stay. Package Dunbar and Anderson in a deal for picks, Anderson is on the upswing.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1245069]Either Anderson or Kerrigan has to go, love them both. If Kerrigan restructures, being that he’s a fan favorite, he’ll stay. Package Dunbar and Anderson in a deal for picks, Anderson is on the upswing.[/quote]

Anderson was pretty good last year...but I want to see him as a SAM LB in a 4-3. I think he is a starter in this defense. RK will be a hand in the ground DE in the 4-3

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[quote=MTK;1245066]Keep him but not at his current cap number


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This would be ideal...but if he won't, it could go south. Chris Cooley said they'd be lucky to get a 5th round pick if they traded him...which seems very low to me, but he was adamant about it.

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[quote=Chico23231;1245070]Anderson was pretty good last year...but I want to see him as a SAM LB in a 4-3. I think he is a starter in this defense. RK will be a hand in the ground DE in the 4-3[/quote]

I agree. They play different positions in this 4-3.
I am not yet 100% convinced that Sweat is an every down DE in a 4-3. He flashes and disappears.
Kerrigan is the real deal, no question that RK is ready for a big year with a real D Coordinator.
Keep Kerrigan and restructure his deal.

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I probably feel this way on all the major questions, but with Kerrigan especially I say wholeheartedly in Rivera I trust.. There is no purely wrong answer, ie keeping Colt McCoy like Gruden did, and there are several pure positive outcomes. I fully expect Rivera and his staff to have a fearsome defensive front, with or without Kerrigan.

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Agree that there is no rush and I'm guessing there's no pressure from Kerrigan either. He knows he's on the downslope so he won't be getting some bumper deal if he's released. And no, we don;t need to do anything before the draft so RR will take his time and make the right decision, no matter what that is.
If he doesn't want to be the #2 behind Young and gets disgruntled (which I don't think he would) then it makes sense to cut loose, assuming there's no trade deal on the table. But if he's OK taking a cut in a restructure what's the downside? If he drops off a performance cliff we can cut him with little baggage and if he continues to play at a high level he's an ideal #2, plus gives options for different DL (and LB) packages.

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You can never have too many pass rushers.

Kerrigan wants to stay with the team, and I've been saying he'll likely do a team friendly deal to do so.

Kerrigan can still play, and he can be a mentor to Montez and Chase. I think the pros of keeping him outweight the cons IMO.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1245059]I don't know which one of the AM radio sports talk shows it was as I flip between 3 when driving, mostly due to reception issues. They were talking Redskins and some Cowboy fan calls up and says if Kerrigan is cut loose he will end up with a star on his helmet. That would not seem right to me, kind of like a guy sleeping with his best friend's wife.

As for what to do I would try to restructure and keep him. Until last year the guy never missed a game and averaged double digit sacks.[/quote]

Pro football isn't about feelings and nostalgia. It's a ruthless cutthroat business. It would suck but if Farve went to go play for the Vikings then Kerrigan can go to Dallas. In the end it's business.

Now is the perfect time to move on from Kerrigan. You have to have the ability to see when a player is starting to hit the downside of his career and now is that time for Kerrigan.

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If RK expects more than 10 million per...cut his ass immediately

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[quote=skinsfan69;1245085]Pro football isn't about feelings and nostalgia. It's a ruthless cutthroat business. It would suck but if Farve went to go play for the Vikings then Kerrigan can go to Dallas. In the end it's business.

Now is the perfect time to move on from Kerrigan. You have to have the ability to see when a player is starting to hit the downside of his career and now is that time for Kerrigan.[/quote]

If Kerrigan was demanding to be a starter and to earn starter money, you'd be correct. But it sounds like this is not the case. We don't know that for sure, but if he wasn't in the team's future plans, he'd been cut.

The team could still trade him. But from what a lot of reporters are saying, it seems that both the team and Ryan are going to work something out.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1245088]If Kerrigan was demanding to be a starter and to earn starter money, you'd be correct. But it sounds like this is not the case. We don't know that for sure, but if he wasn't in the team's future plans, he'd been cut.

The team could still trade him. But from what a lot of reporters are saying, it seems that both the team and Ryan are going to work something out.[/quote]

I just disagree with keeping him around. The team is still rebuilding so I'm not keeping any older guys at all. It shouldn't matter if he wants to be a starter or not. I'm on the phone with the Ravens or any contender that's looking for a part time pass rusher and working out a deal.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1245089]I just disagree with keeping him around. The team is still rebuilding so I'm not keeping any older guys at all. It shouldn't matter if he wants to be a starter or not. I'm on the phone with the Ravens or any contender that's looking for a part time pass rusher and working out a deal.[/quote]

You know who really likes him and values him as a core Skins

That’s right, our meddling owner

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[quote=skinsfan69;1245089]I just disagree with keeping him around. The team is still rebuilding so I'm not keeping any older guys at all. It shouldn't matter if he wants to be a starter or not. I'm on the phone with the Ravens or any contender that's looking for a part time pass rusher and working out a deal.[/quote]

I'm kinda in the same boat, he's getting old and about done. Let him go play for a team that is closer than us

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I say let him go.

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[quote=Chico23231;1245092]You know who really likes him and values him as a core Skins

That’s right, our meddling owner[/quote]

Can you blame Snyder though? Kerrigan has been a model player for the Redskins. All the reason to send him somewhere where he has a chance to win a championship to cap of his career. I just don't think Snyder sees it that way. He probably wants "core" guys like Kerrigan to never play for anyone else and will hold on to him for personal reasons.

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Pay half his salary and trade him to NE for a mid-round pick.

Win-Win trade

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at a team friendly cap # - keep him. I still believe he has enough left in the tank to be a real contributor. Who wouldn't want to rotate a fresh kerrigan in behind a tired edge rusher?

I'd be all about that

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We are in a real rebuilding mode. Tough decisions have to be made. The most elite team in the NFL, the Patriots, is very ruthless with most players once they get above 30 years old. I like everything about Ryan Kerrigan, but his production fell off this season. We’ve invested two first round draft picks on the Edge. How much will Ryan actually play as a backup?


If they can get him down to $5 mill/yr for a 2-3 year deal, as the Edge backup, then do it. But you can’t pay big bucks to an older player on the downslope, who will be a backup, just because the fans or owner love him for what he did in years past. This will be one of the toughest personnel decisions Rivera makes this offseason.


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Keep Kerrigan. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water under the guise of culture change. You need at least 4 DEs. Not gonna find 2 other guys better than him (Sweat and Young would be the top 2).

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I'd question how much of his drop off is age related and how much down to Manusky and his piss poor D scheme. Take him into Camp while trying to negotiate a revised deal, if not already in place. If he performs well in camp, we have the luxury of offering him as trade bait if he won't climb down on the contract. And if he does, we have a quality backup for a couple of years while Young develops. If he stinks up camp, release him and move on, but i doubt that.

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IMO we should wait until we actually have CY before even thinking about trading/renegotiating or cutting RK.

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1245181]I'd question how much of his drop off is age related and how much down to Manusky and his piss poor D scheme. Take him into Camp while trying to negotiate a revised deal, if not already in place. If he performs well in camp, we have the luxury of offering him as trade bait if he won't climb down on the contract. And if he does, we have a quality backup for a couple of years while Young develops. If he stinks up camp, release him and move on, but i doubt that.[/QUOTE]



I agree completely. Manusky’s crappy defense meant that Kerrigan AND Sweat both fell back in coverage 50% of the time!
What a frigging waste of talent. If you say that they were rushing the QB all those times, instead of going backwards in coverage - they might have DOUBLED their sack totals. So Sweat goes from 7.5 to 15 and Kerrigan goes from 5.5 to 11. Maybe that’s a little overstated but it still brings both players back to where they should have been. Manusky was a terrible DC. Let’s see how Ryan does this TC.


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No such thing as too many pass rushers. Keep him and it’s not even a legitimate question worth considering.

If Rivera were reading this thread he’d just laugh.

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I think it is time to move on pass Kerrigan. Not because I don't like the guy. I think just it is time to move on.

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Hurst for Kerrigan?

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ravens-reportedly-open-to-trading-hayden-hurst-here-are-five-potential-landing-spots/[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1245356]Hurst for Kerrigan?

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ravens-reportedly-open-to-trading-hayden-hurst-here-are-five-potential-landing-spots/[/url][/quote]

That would make no sense whatsoever, and not offense to Kerrigan. The Ravens probably want draft picks, which we don't have.

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Kerrigan’s agent is negotiating with the team at the Combine with a restructure. That will save the Redskins a few million.

I just wonder now what they will do with
Moses. Dropping/trading him saves $6.7.
Use the money to bring in a new OT FA.


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[quote=Warthog;1245363]Kerrigan’s agent is negotiating with the team at the Combine with a restructure. That will save the Redskins a few million.

I just wonder now what they will do with
Moses. Dropping/trading him saves $6.7.
Use the money to bring in a new OT FA.


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keep Moses. Focus on your issues right now...Trent, Schreff, and LG. Don't create another issue right now.

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[quote=Chico23231;1245364]keep Moses. Focus on your issues right now...Trent, Schreff, and LG. [B]Don't create another issue right now[/B].[/quote]

It's not an issue if you upgrade the position, which is needed.

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Moses sucks a left butt cheek. Fine with seeing him go.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1245364]keep Moses. Focus on your issues right now...Trent, Schreff, and LG. Don't create another issue right now.[/QUOTE]



I think they will sign Trent, Flowers and even Scherff. The question is whether the $6.7 mill you save on Moses can get you at OT FA that did better than him last year. Moses was doing so bad last season that he dragged down Scherff with him.


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Moses played better down the stretch. While overall I think he was pretty average and didn’t plAy to his contract, I see a lot bigger issues on the offense than Moses. Also, let the young guy behind him develop...he did get some time last year and was ok.

We can’t cut a guy proven guy after 1 bad year and you don’t want to give up on a developing player this soon.

Moses, Geron Christian I have penciled in as Right Tackle...that’s just not a problem when I look at the roster.

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[quote=Warthog;1245384]I think they will sign Trent, Flowers and even Scherff. The question is whether the $6.7 mill you save on Moses can get you at OT FA that did better than him last year. Moses was doing so bad last season that he dragged down Scherff with him.


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The answer is yes. Dennis Kelly.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1245387]Moses played better down the stretch. While overall I think he was pretty average and didn’t plAy to his contract, I see a lot bigger issues on the offense than Moses. Also, let the young guy behind him develop...he did get some time last year and was ok.



We can’t cut a guy proven guy after 1 bad year and you don’t want to give up on a developing player this soon.



Moses, Geron Christian I have penciled in as Right Tackle...that’s just not a problem when I look at the roster.[/QUOTE]



They probably won’t do anything with Moses this year except draft at least one OT to play as the backup, of if he continues to play poorly to replace him sometime in the season.


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