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Fuck this sucks

Steelers-Titans postponed after positive COVID-19 tests in Tennessee

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30008270/steelers-titans-postponed-positive-covid-19-tests-sources-say[/url]

Hope they can get it in Monday or Tuesday

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[quote=Chico23231;1260841]Fuck this sucks

Steelers-Titans postponed after positive COVID-19 tests in Tennessee

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30008270/steelers-titans-postponed-positive-covid-19-tests-sources-say[/url]

Hope they can get it in Monday or Tuesday[/quote]

Seems like playing Monday or Tuesday puts the Steelers at a disadvantage for their game after TN. IMO if a team cant play as scheduled for whatever reason then they should forfeit.

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Sucks. If the NFL and teams manage to play all games all weeks this season they deserve a huge round of applause IMO...

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Broncos @ Jets tonight if anyone is interested. Not the greatest game but it is football. May watch to just check out Darnold.

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[quote=The Skinsinator;1260888]Broncos @ Jets tonight if anyone is interested. Not the greatest game but it is football. May watch to just check out Darnold.[/quote]

Jets may be headed for a top 3 pick and a new coach that may not want Darnold...we may be looking for a QB...I hope not but we all know it's possible. All eyes on QBs right now and going forward.

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Pitt / Tenn pushed back to later in the season

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1260890]Pitt / Tenn pushed back to later in the season[/quote]

Did they fuckin consider the fantasy impacts? These mutherfuckers, gud damn it

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Yeah and hows that fair to Pitt? LOL

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[quote=Redskins247;1260889]Jets may be headed for a top 3 pick and a new coach that may not want Darnold...we may be looking for a QB...I hope not but we all know it's possible. All eyes on QBs right now and going forward.[/quote]Exactly. I wanna watch to see Darnold more than anything. Just read Gase's job not on the line yet from this game. Crazy that teams are already looking at 2021 qbs and it's only week 4.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1260894]Yeah and hows that fair to Pitt? LOL[/quote]

Its not.

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[quote=The Skinsinator;1260888]Broncos @ Jets tonight if anyone is interested. Not the greatest game but it is football. May watch to just check out Darnold.[/quote]

[SIZE="4"]Mark Rypien's nephew is the Broncos' starting QB![/SIZE]

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I'll tune in to watch future WFT QB Sam Darnold

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29 career starts for Darnold and he's still struggling.

10 for Haskins.

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I'm joking guys lol

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I will say Haskins has the better OL and WR though which is not saying much

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[quote=MTK;1260907]29 career starts for Darnold and he's still struggling.

10 for Haskins.[/quote]

The Jets have been a disaster for a long time. If memory serves, Charley Casserly was very high on Darnold coming out of college.

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[quote=MTK;1260907]29 career starts for Darnold and he's still struggling.

10 for Haskins.[/quote]

Look where Darnold ended up? He has talent, if Haskins doesn’t pan out and the jets draft Lawrence, I would consider trading for Darnold.

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lol if we're using the Jets as an example of a QB stuck on a bad team why doesn't the same apply to Haskins?

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[quote=MTK;1260914]lol if we're using the Jets as an example of a QB stuck on a bad team why doesn't the same apply to Haskins?[/quote]

Because...stuff? LOL.

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It's just crazy to me after 3 starts with a new staff people are ready to move on from Haskins. Pure crazy.

Maybe he ends up a bust, who knows? But it's way too early to know how this is going to go.

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[quote=MTK;1260916]It's just crazy to me after 3 starts with a new staff people are ready to move on from Haskins. Pure crazy.

Maybe he ends up a bust, who knows? But it's way too early to know how this is going to go.[/quote]The fundamentals and accuracy haven't improved by year 2. That is an enormous red flag. I really thought it'd be better in 2020 after the reports. Haven't seen it yet and have no reason to believe it will.

If Haskins busts this year, I would consider Darnold next year if Lawrence/Fields aren't in play (doubtful). Darnold's accuracy and fundamentals are superior to Haskins, and I would give him look.

Hope Dwayne comes around. I still maintain this staff will give Allen a real look this year if Haskins continues to struggle. It would be unwise not to if Haskins/the season is a lost cause.

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[quote=The Skinsinator;1260922]The fundamentals and accuracy haven't improved by year 2. That is an enormous red flag. I really thought it'd be better in 2020 after the reports. Haven't seen it yet and have no reason to believe it will.

If Haskins busts this year, I would consider Darnold next year if Lawrence/Fields aren't in play (doubtful). Darnold's accuracy and fundamentals are superior to Haskins, and I would give him look.

Hope Dwayne comes around. I still maintain this staff will give Allen a real look this year if Haskins continues to struggle. It would be unwise not to if Haskins/the season is a lost cause.[/quote]

A red flag with an asterisk due to the lack of a true offseason with OTA's, IMO.

I don't really see Darnold has being much more advanced especially since he's being coached by a supposed QB guru. Just not a big fan of his.

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I remember Colin cowherd several years ago jizzin when Rosen and Darnold came out in the draft, saying they would rule the league at QB for year to come....I love seeing both of them suck donkey balls to spite that obnoxious fucker

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[quote=MTK;1260916]It's just crazy to me after 3 starts with a new staff people are ready to move on from Haskins. Pure crazy.

Maybe he ends up a bust, who knows? But it's way too early to know how this is going to go.[/quote]

Agreed.

Haskins is in year one and a half IMO, considering how badly coached a team and how toxic a situation he was in.

We one week 1, lost to a very good team week 2 in a game where he didn't do that many mistakes, and lost because of him and the head coach not trying to win week 3. It's way too early to wrap it up.

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I’ll say it right now we will have the number one pick !! Sam D was selected to pro bowl .. so anyone saying Haskins is on that level is wishing ... anybody here really believe that Darnold would not be a upgrade ... I hope DH somehow miraculously gets it and becomes the guy ... but I say the first 2 drives against Ravens this forum will be calling him out .. yet again

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[quote=MTK;1260925]A red flag with an asterisk due to the lack of a true offseason with OTA's, IMO.

I don't really see Darnold has being much more advanced especially since he's being coached by a supposed QB guru. Just not a big fan of his.[/quote]None of the other qbs had that luxury either. Haskins' completion percentage is low at this point around 56%. He had the entire offseason to improve his fundamentals/accuracy. Not done. I just don't think people are being realistic about how alarming this is. ANY pro qb should have decent fundamentals: footwork, throwing motion, pocket awareness, accuracy etc. Haskins' fundamentals so far in his career have not been good. This is the main reason he struggles. He has the arm/size/emotions. The accuracy is terrible because the fundamentals are flawed.

On Darnold, I don't know what to think of him but you need to realize that if Haskins/Allen don't work out and we don't suck bad enough to get Lawrence/Fields, there will be minimum options available at qb next year. Darnold might not look that bad at that point. His completion percentage for his career is at least in the 60s and have seen him throw some good deep balls.

I'm not ready to give up on Haskins but have been disappointed thus far in 2020. Really thought we'd see improvement. Hope it comes and is consistent.

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[quote=The Skinsinator;1260952]None of the other qbs had that luxury either. Haskins' completion percentage is low at this point around 56%. He had the entire offseason to improve his fundamentals/accuracy. [/quote]

What offseason? NO OTA's, no mini camp, limited camp and no preseason. Just when was he going to get one on one physical time with a coach and some receivers to improve his mechanics? Zoom meetings aren't gong to get that shit done. :coach::confused?:

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Even Brett Rypien looks better than Haskins. Lol. And the Jets pass D is not terrible by any means.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1260953]What offseason? NO OTA's, no mini camp, limited camp and no preseason. Just when was he going to get one on one physical time with a coach and some receivers to improve his mechanics? Zoom meetings aren't gong to get that shit done. :coach::confused?:[/quote]This offseason:

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/dwayne-haskins-has-thrown-crazy-list-nfl-targets-offseason[/url]

No zoom meeting here. Do you see any other qbs in the league struggling with accuracy as much him? Literally at the bottom of the NFL for qbs who have started all 3 weeks thus far for completion percentage. But keeping making excuses for him. NFL isn't about excuses. NFL is about results. Haskins has the latter only up to this point.

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It's easy to look great in shorts and no defenders around.

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Ok Rypien sucks too. Lol.

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Now you know why I can’t stand Gregg Williams, 6 personal fouls. Can’t control his defense.

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The bottom 5 teams in the league all need QBs lol what a sad situation.

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[quote=punch it in;1260965]Ok Rypien sucks too. Lol.[/quote]

He will end up a solid backup IMO, like a Kyle Allen

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[quote=MTK;1260914]lol if we're using the Jets as an example of a QB stuck on a bad team why doesn't the same apply to Haskins?[/quote]

It does. My point is that if Darnold or Haskins were on better run/coached organizations they could be better at this point. Unfortunately they are on two of the worst franchises in the NFL that have been terrible for a long time. Their chances of success are minimal.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1260959]It's easy to look great in shorts and no defenders around.[/QUOTE]

Yup

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[quote=irish;1260998]It does. My point is that if Darnold or Haskins were on better run/coached organizations they could be better at this point. Unfortunately they are on two of the worst franchises in the NFL that have been terrible for a long time. Their chances of success are minimal.[/quote]

With Haskins, he was a rookie QB on a team whose coach (Gruden) did not want him and was not interested in developing. He then started in a handful of game under and interim coach and the remnants of a hastily put together team.

And this year, despite having a better situation in terms of coaching and to a better overall structure of the team (no more Bruce Allen), Haskins has been hindered by having a brand new coaching staff, no offseason, and a lack of weapons on offense.

Aside from Daniel Jones, I believe no other rookie or young QB in the league has gone through this.

Because of all of this, Haskins should be given most of the season to develop. I am concerned that this terrible starting situation, may have deeply affected and could lead to the team needing a QB next year (Giants will be QB shopping as well). But still, it doesn't help the team in the long term to pull the plug on Haskins early in the season.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1261007]With Haskins, he was a rookie QB on a team whose coach (Gruden) did not want him and was not interested in developing. He then started in a handful of game under and interim coach and the remnants of a hastily put together team.

And this year, despite having a better situation in terms of coaching and to a better overall structure of the team (no more Bruce Allen), Haskins has been hindered by having a brand new coaching staff, no offseason, and a lack of weapons on offense.

Aside from Daniel Jones, I believe no other rookie or young QB in the league has gone through this.

Because of all of this, Haskins should be given most of the season to develop. I am concerned that this terrible starting situation, may have deeply affected and could lead to the team needing a QB next year (Giants will be QB shopping as well). But still, it doesn't help the team in the long term to pull the plug on Haskins early in the season.[/quote]

Many won't but I agree.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1261007]With Haskins, he was a rookie QB on a team whose coach (Gruden) did not want him and was not interested in developing. He then started in a handful of game under and interim coach and the remnants of a hastily put together team.

And this year, despite having a better situation in terms of coaching and to a better overall structure of the team (no more Bruce Allen), Haskins has been hindered by having a brand new coaching staff, no offseason, and a lack of weapons on offense.

Aside from Daniel Jones, I believe no other rookie or young QB in the league has gone through this.

Because of all of this, Haskins should be given most of the season to develop. I am concerned that this terrible starting situation, may have deeply affected and could lead to the team needing a QB next year (Giants will be QB shopping as well). But still, it doesn't help the team in the long term to pull the plug on Haskins early in the season.[/quote]

I agree. He started in a bad situation and it didnt get much better considering he had no offseason to work with his new coaching staff and system. Its way too early to pull the plug on him.

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As long as Gettlemen is calling the shots in NY I don't see him moving on from Jones so quickly unless he's a total bust this season. And since his name keeps coming up I don't think the Jets will move on from Darnold with his 5th year option coming up.