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Chief X_Phackter 12-03-2020 02:32 AM

PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
So, here's how they stack up on paper.

Total Offense
WFT #26
PIT #20

Passing Offense
WFT #24
PIT #16

Rushing Offense
WFT #19
PIT #24

Total Defense
WFT #4
PIT #3

Passing Defense
WFT #1
PIT #2

Rushing Defense
WFT #15
PIT #8


Honestly, throw it all out the window. On paper the Steelers have a slight edge, but in reality they are about to find out that they aren't as good as their record says they are. Over the last 5 games, WFT averages 136 rushing yards per game. They will have 150+ on Monday. Couple that with a dink & dunk methodology to move the ball down the field, and winning the time of possession battle = a W.

WFT 25
PIT 23

FrenchSkin 12-03-2020 06:28 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1266523]So, here's how they stack up on paper.

Total Offense
WFT #26
PIT #20

Passing Offense
WFT #24
PIT #16

Rushing Offense
WFT #19
PIT #24

Total Defense
WFT #4
PIT #3

Passing Defense
WFT #1
PIT #2

Rushing Defense
WFT #15
PIT #8


Honestly, throw it all out the window. On paper the Steelers have a slight edge, but in reality they are about to find out that they aren't as good as their record says they are. Over the last 5 games, WFT averages 136 rushing yards per game. They will have 150+ on Monday. Couple that with a dink & dunk methodology to move the ball down the field, and winning the time of possession battle = a W.

WFT 25
PIT 23[/quote]

Honestly coming in I'd just like to feel good about my team, I'd like it to be a competitive game showing the last 2 weeks were not flukes against shitty teams.

I think Pittsburg's D is legit though... and yet our Oline surprisingly keeps holding their ground against very decent fronts, last week agains the Cowboys I was surprised, that Dline which generated tons of pressure against the Vikings didn't look that impressive against us.

Hard to predict, I'd love a tough defensive game all along were we get the upper hand 13 to 10.

irish 12-03-2020 06:51 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
I think WFT is going to find out that running against Pgh is a lot different than running against Dallas.

PIT 27
WFT 10

CRedskinsRule 12-03-2020 07:13 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
Pitt will win. I hope we stay competitive, but it is doubtful. Pitt-Balt are always tough games, that doesn't mean anything in relation to their game with us.

Pitt will go up by 17 in the first half and hold the lead against us the whole game.

Pitt 34
WFT 24

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Chico23231 12-03-2020 07:34 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
The entire team seems inspired by Alex Smith’s gutsy return, calm nature, and good play...can they keep it going?

Defense has to come to play and Pittsburgh will be throw first and even more so if Conner is out. Pass rush has to show up...chase, sweat, RK, etc need to get to Ben

Chico23231 12-03-2020 08:10 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1266527]Pitt will win. I hope we stay competitive, but it is doubtful. Pitt-Balt are always tough games, that doesn't mean anything in relation to their game with us.

Pitt will go up by 17 in the first half and hold the lead against us the whole game.

Pitt 34
WFT 24

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This is the most likely scenario...defense has to come out and punch first to avoid it. Let Steelers know it’s gonna be a long day

MTK 12-03-2020 08:19 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
They may be 11-0 but they're not in the same class as our '91 team that started off with the same record. Not saying we'll beat them, but they are beatable especially right now.

BaltimoreSkins 12-03-2020 08:55 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
They might be the only undefeated team but they aren't the best team in their conference. Right now I think they might not even be the second best. Still doubt the WFT wins but think it will be more competitive than people think.

GridIron26 12-03-2020 09:30 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
Steelers will win, I just hope it will be a competitive game.

skinsfaninok 12-03-2020 10:12 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
I'm going with the upset just for the hell of it. Will it really happen? Prob not but whatever.

WFT - 23
Pitt - 20

skinsfaninok 12-03-2020 10:15 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1266540]They might be the only undefeated team but they aren't the best team in their conference. Right now I think they might not even be the second best. Still doubt the WFT wins but think it will be more competitive than people think.[/quote]

They are the worst 11-0 team I've seen in recent years.. Ben looks old and done, arm is weak as hell. They throw a shit ton and it's all under 10 yards. He's lucky the defense is so good but losing Dupree is big.

mooby 12-03-2020 10:16 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
They're beatable but honestly I don't think we've beaten Pittsburgh since I started watching football and I can def. see that trend continuing this week. Secondary will have to play the game of their life though and if they can negate our pass rush we have no shot. Offense wise Alex Smith is gonna have to step up, because as has been mentioned this isn't Dallas' run defense we're talking about.

I'll say 20-17 Pitt. Initially it's not a close game, we score a pity td at the end to make it look better than it was.

SFREDSKIN 12-03-2020 11:09 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
Keys to winning the game:

Avoid the 11 day off hangover that has plagued this team in the past, be prepared

Defense must stop the run game and make them one dimensional

Apply pressure on Rothleisberger, beat his ass

Turner must play a balanced offense, can't get all pass happy and forget the run

Other WR's need to step it up, McLaurin will be a marked man with Haden and Fitzpatrick

No turn overs

OL needs to protect Smith

Washington can upset Pittsburgh, just need to play a smart, error free game

By the way, great article:

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/12/1/21726315/the-5-oclock-club-the-cold-grip-of-doom-replaced-by-the-warm-comfort-of-confidence?fbclid=IwAR1jrGJQeiQRScbCEZyQ3qEoLI6Iu6mrpceTm34UBc7b1Gbq7zoZfQG-HLk[/url]

WCommandersfan99 12-03-2020 11:33 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
Really hope we make this game competitive. Losing Dupree is a huge loss as he's a playmaker. Will be interesting to see how both teams play with a long/brief layover for each team.

Chief X_Phackter 12-03-2020 11:46 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1266557]Keys to winning the game:

Defense must stop the run game and make them one dimensional

Apply pressure on Rothleisberger, beat his ass

Turner must play a balanced offense, can't get all pass happy and forget the run

Other WR's need to step it up, McLaurin will be a marked man with Haden and Fitzpatrick

No turn overs

OL needs to protect Smith

Washington can upset Pittsburgh, just need to play a smart, error free game

By the way, great article:

[URL]https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/12/1/21726315/the-5-oclock-club-the-cold-grip-of-doom-replaced-by-the-warm-comfort-of-confidence?fbclid=IwAR1jrGJQeiQRScbCEZyQ3qEoLI6Iu6mrpceTm34UBc7b1Gbq7zoZfQG-HLk[/URL][/quote]

I agree with your keys. I am ok with Turner getting pass happy if that means short quick passes - as an extension of the running game.

I foresee a lot of pre-snap motion, misdirection, A Smith getting the ball out of his hands quickly and allowing JD, Antonio, Scary Terry, Sims, etc. make big plays. Give Pit a lot of different looks and things to think about.

I also hope they incorporate Logan Thomas a little more. I wouldn't mind seeing him under center a couple times, executing the run-pass option.

skinsfan69 12-03-2020 11:48 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
perfect spot for us to go in and steal a game.

SFREDSKIN 12-03-2020 11:50 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1266562]I agree with your keys. I am ok with Turner getting pass happy if that means short quick passes - as an extension of the running game.

I foresee a lot of pre-snap motion, misdirection, A Smith getting the ball out of his hands quickly and allowing JD, Antonio, Scary Terry, Sims, etc. make big plays. Give Pit a lot of different looks and things to think about.

I also hope they incorporate Logan Thomas a little more. I wouldn't mind seeing him under center a couple times, executing the run-pass option.[/quote]

The number one thing is, be prepared and not be in an 11 day off stupor that has plagued this team many times in the past.

Chief X_Phackter 12-03-2020 11:56 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1266565]The number one thing is, be prepared and not be in an 11 day off stupor that has plagued this team many times in the past.[/quote]

True, they did not come out of that bye week with any intensity at all, losing to the Giants - a game they should have definitely won.

sdskinsfan2001 12-03-2020 02:27 PM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
If we beat Pittsburgh, I'm going streaking (with just a mask on).

Redskins247 12-03-2020 02:55 PM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
Pittsburgh is not a GREAT team however, their identity right now is what the WFT should be striving for...all around solid play from defense and special teams, and offensively sound with balance from the run and passing game, which all stems from good coaching. Also, is there a better team over the last 15 years at drafting wide receivers??
Pitt-27
WFT - 17

jamf 12-03-2020 05:08 PM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
Key to winning the game: Covid-19

This will be a bloodbath.
Dwayne Haskins takes over at half time.

Chief X_Phackter 12-03-2020 05:15 PM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
I liked how Ron finished up his presser today:

"I really am looking forward to obviously getting through this year, and hopefully finishing up some point in February..."

AnonEmouse 12-03-2020 06:01 PM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
We are just the team to offer a trap to Pitt. If the D play as well as they did against Dallas then I feel its ours to lose, but the O can't make mistakes. and we have to take a chance downfield. If there's any weakness in their D it's there. I'm not too scared of their O but they have good WR's as Redskins247 noted, so we have to play tight pass D in the deep make pressure pay up front. Their run O even if Conner plays, isn't scary, but we know it's a bit of a weakness on our D.

The Ravens pretty much ran out of steam allowing them to run out the clock last night, but the Steelers barely crawled over the line in the end. That last drive to chew the clock looked a bit desperate; passing on early downs with the lead and just 2:30 on the clock, even if it was mainly to the flat? No trust in their run game. Force them to pass, where our strength lies, and chew up the clock on O to keep Big Ben off the field.

Do all that and I'd go 20-19 WFT.

AnonEmouse 12-03-2020 06:02 PM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1266572]If we beat Pittsburgh, I'm going streaking (with just a mask on).[/quote]

You do that and I'll be happy twice over. We'll have won and I'm not on the same continent as you :)

SFREDSKIN 12-03-2020 06:11 PM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
If you are doubter read this:

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/records-aside-washington-matchup-steelers-180442854.html[/url]

SFREDSKIN 12-03-2020 07:20 PM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
Curl and Reaves stepping up, have made a difference in our defense improving, I hope they keep it up.

[url]https://youtu.be/yc5gOjSR7pw[/url]

MTK 12-04-2020 11:39 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1266584]If you are doubter read this:

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/records-aside-washington-matchup-steelers-180442854.html[/url][/quote]

Good read. If we somehow beat them it's going to raise a lot of eyebrows around the league for sure.

Burgold 12-04-2020 12:37 PM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
Word is that the Steelers are mad at themselves for not playing good last game, that doesn't bode well for us.. Steelers 27-WFT 14!

SFREDSKIN 12-04-2020 12:44 PM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
[quote=Burgold;1266600]Word is that the Steelers are mad at themselves for not playing good last game, that doesn't bode well for us.. Steelers 27-WFT 14![/quote]

Word has it Washington knows and is going out to prove they can play with the big boys. Their days of being pussy doormats are over.

Chico23231 12-04-2020 01:21 PM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1266588]Curl and Reaves stepping up, have made a difference in our defense improving, I hope they keep it up.

[url]https://youtu.be/yc5gOjSR7pw[/url][/quote]

Good tape review. Curl has outplayed Collins at safety.

SkinzWin 12-04-2020 05:48 PM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
[quote=FrenchSkin;1266524]Honestly coming in I'd just like to feel good about my team, I'd like it to be a competitive game showing the last 2 weeks were not flukes against shitty teams.

I think Pittsburg's D is legit though... and yet our Oline surprisingly keeps holding their ground against very decent fronts, last week agains the Cowboys I was surprised, that Dline which generated tons of pressure against the Vikings didn't look that impressive against us.

Hard to predict, I'd love a tough defensive game all along were we get the upper hand 13 to 10.[/quote]

But how legitimate are they going to still be without Bud Dupree?

SFREDSKIN 12-05-2020 12:19 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
This is an interesting stat, like I said run the ball and don’t get cute with passing only, be balanced.

Washington is 4-0 this season with 30 or more carries.
0-7 when fewer than 30 carries.

punch it in 12-05-2020 08:25 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
Well three weeks ago I would have said something like 47-3 Steelers which still could happen because we are Washington.
However we are playing better than terrible now. They are missing a few really key guys. If you look at their 11 wins there are alot of close games. Hell the Cowboys without Dak gave these guys a run. So at this point Ill say 47-10!
HTTFT

GridIron26 12-05-2020 08:52 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1266622]This is an interesting stat, like I said run the ball and don’t get cute with passing only, be balanced.

[B]Washington is 4-0 this season with 30 or more carries.
0-7 when fewer than 30 carries.[/B][/quote]

The problem with this is this puts more pressure on the defense. If Steelers scored 2-3 TDs fast then we would more likely to abandon the running game.

SFREDSKIN 12-05-2020 09:17 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
The defense will have to be ready from the beginning, no lapses. The team needs to play an error free game in order to win.

htownskinfan 12-05-2020 10:09 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
Pittsburgh didnt look that great against the Ravens but that doesnt mean anything,how many dropped passes did they have? Anythings possible,but our running game will have to be working on all cylinders for a chance,because Alex Smith is not going to pass us to victory.

Chico23231 12-05-2020 10:16 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
[quote=htownskinfan;1266628]Pittsburgh didnt look that great against the Ravens but that doesnt mean anything,how many dropped passes did they have? Anythings possible,but our running game will have to be working on all cylinders for a chance,because Alex Smith is not going to pass us to victory.[/quote]

Cooley’s Dallas game tape breakdown of Alex Smith said he played like a JAG. Missed seeing several wide open receiver big play and touchdown throws. He said Isaiah Wright should have caught 2 td, that Alex didnt throw him the ball for some reason.

Alex will need to play better to beat Pittsburgh

Chico23231 12-05-2020 10:18 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1266622]This is an interesting stat, like I said run the ball and don’t get cute with passing only, be balanced.

Washington is 4-0 this season with 30 or more carries.
0-7 when fewer than 30 carries.[/quote]

When u run you win

skinsfaninok 12-05-2020 10:27 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1266630]When u run you win[/quote]

For teams like KC , TB , NO etc, they can win with playing Pass first but we are not a pass first team since Kirk left.

Chico23231 12-05-2020 10:28 AM

Re: PIT v WFT Pregame Thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1266631]For teams like KC , TB , NO etc, they can win with playing Pass first but we are not a pass first team since Kirk left.[/quote]

Top ten all time QBs. Big difference.


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