Ranking our starting QB's since Rypien
 

Man this sure is depressing

[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32202487/as-washington-football-team-qb-quest-enters-year-29-espn-analytics-ranks-30-starters"]As the Washington Football Team's QB quest enters Year 29, ESPN Analytics ranks its past 30 starters[/URL]

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The standout thing to me, the two guys at the top just shows the complete lack of football IQ our owner has. I’m gonna be 100%, folks on the Warpath far and away have more knowledge of football than Dan Snyder.

Dan Snyder hated Cousins because he didn’t have the same “star” appeal or marketing appeal as RG3. Brad Johnson…again a blue collar guy without star appeal or the cannon Jeff George had.

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[quote=Chico23231;1290502]The standout thing to me, the two guys at the top just shows the complete lack of football IQ our owner has. I’m gonna be 100%, folks on the Warpath far and away have more knowledge of football than Dan Snyder.

Dan Snyder hated Cousins because he didn’t have the same “star” appeal or marketing appeal as RG3. Brad Johnson…again a blue collar guy without star appeal or the cannon Jeff George had.[/quote]

Jeff George - million dollar arm, 10 cent head. When the Cowboys dragged him around TX Stadium and not a single team mate came to his rescue told me all I needed to know about him.

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[quote=MTK;1290501]Man this sure is depressing

[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32202487/as-washington-football-team-qb-quest-enters-year-29-espn-analytics-ranks-30-starters"]As the Washington Football Team's QB quest enters Year 29, ESPN Analytics ranks its past 30 starters[/URL][/quote]

Better off reading the 'Keim's Take' line. He nails it on all of them.

But yeah, tough to read this. Some teams go from Favre to Aaron Rodgers. We have to flounder around from guy to guy to guy.

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Guys we never should have let leave the building, Trent Green, Brad Johnson, and Kirk Cousins. If those 3 guys were allowed to play out their careers here, the entire narrative about this franchise would be far different.

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[quote=Chico23231;1290502]The standout thing to me, the two guys at the top just shows the complete lack of football IQ our owner has. I’m gonna be 100%, folks on the Warpath far and away have more knowledge of football than Dan Snyder.

Dan Snyder hated Cousins because he didn’t have the same “star” appeal or marketing appeal as RG3. Brad Johnson…again a blue collar guy without star appeal or the cannon Jeff George had.[/quote]

DS is that middle school coach that just selects kids based of size or speed not work ethic and heart.. I bet you he never played a fucking down of any organized football in his life

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The one spot any coach wants consistency year to year and only one player on that list played five years for the franchise. Many one and done and most were supposed to be back ups.

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[quote=MTK;1290506]Guys we never should have let leave the building, Trent Green, Brad Johnson, and Kirk Cousins. If those 3 guys were allowed to play out their careers here, the entire narrative about this franchise would be far different.[/quote]

Yep, Kirk is still very productive in Minnesota, his defense is just trash

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1290508]The one spot any coach wants consistency year to year and only one player on that list played five years for the franchise. Many one and done and most were supposed to be back ups.[/quote]

That's why I have very little faith in TH, history shows he will end up sucking

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That is pretty depressing. There's a lot of luck involved (good luck), something that this team doesn't know too much about...

There's more than a few teams in the NFL who have floundered around for years (decades) trying to find [I]the[/I] QB though.

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[quote=Chico23231;1290502]The standout thing to me, the two guys at the top just shows the complete lack of football IQ our owner has. I’m gonna be 100%, folks on the Warpath far and away have more knowledge of football than Dan Snyder.

Dan Snyder hated Cousins because he didn’t have the same “star” appeal or marketing appeal as RG3. Brad Johnson…again a blue collar guy without star appeal or the cannon Jeff George had.[/quote]

No doubt, ultimately this list shows what a piss poor owner Snyder has been. Total mismanagement of the most important position on the field.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1290510]That's why I have very little faith in TH, history shows he will end up sucking[/quote]

Here's how it plays out with TH, because this is how it typically goes here. He will either stink and be known as another Beck/Wuerffel/Matthews type, etc., or he will play well and Snyder will fall in love with the next shiny toy in college and he will leave.

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Its cleveland browns level bad... Bears too

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Man what a terrible list lol.

Moot point but I disagree with it on a few things - like John Beck's ranking. He might've been the worst to play in a Redskins uni that I've ever seen. Not sure how they came up with that list but it says a lot that they rank Jason Campbell as a top five qb for us.

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[quote=MTK;1290512]No doubt, ultimately this list shows what a piss poor owner Snyder has been. Total mismanagement of the most important position on the field.[/quote]

The fans should chant "sell the team" in every home game from now on until Snyder caves in.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1290510]That's why I have very little faith in TH, history shows he will end up sucking[/QUOTE]Well TH is the first qb in a long time that the owner had no say in. Maybe Fitz too, but definitely TH and KA. Now if they could just stop getting hurt.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1290514]Its cleveland browns level bad... Bears too[/quote]

Worse.

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What has pissed me off was last year's draft when they had a chance at Justin Herbert, a franchise QB and took a DE.

Now I don't hate that they took Young but as a result of the shit team management from top down up until last season, Rivera has Haskins, who was drafted high and played little in his rookie year so you have to think that Snyder and team convinced him that he will be good to go so they take Young.

You have a chance to take a franchise QB you do so no matter what, but that is the M.O. of this team as long as I've been a fan, they cant draft QB's and when they do they move on. SMH

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[quote=Summo;1290522]What has pissed me off was last year's draft when they had a chance at Justin Herbert, a franchise QB and took a DE.

Now I don't hate that they took Young but as a result of the shit team management from top down up until last season, Rivera has Haskins, who was drafted high and played little in his rookie year so you have to think that Snyder and team convinced him that he will be good to go so they take Young.

You have a chance to take a franchise QB you do so no matter what, but that is the M.O. of this team as long as I've been a fan, they cant draft QB's and when they do they move on. SMH[/quote]

Herbert was labeled as a system guy and CY was a can't miss, I wanted QB too (Tua) but I can't be mad at the CY Pick.. He sucked last week but lets see what he does tonight.. If he is a non factor again vs this shitty line, we have some legit concerns

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Christ that was a depressing read. But Santana Moss on John Beck was pretty funny.


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[quote=Summo;1290522]What has pissed me off was last year's draft when they had a chance at Justin Herbert, a franchise QB and took a DE.

Now I don't hate that they took Young but as a result of the shit team management from top down up until last season, Rivera has Haskins, who was drafted high and played little in his rookie year so you have to think that Snyder and team convinced him that he will be good to go so they take Young.

You have a chance to take a franchise QB you do so no matter what, but that is the M.O. of this team as long as I've been a fan, they cant draft QB's and when they do they move on. SMH[/quote]

Rivera is a defense guy so it's not surprising he went with a defensive player. As long as RR is head coach I expect he wont draft a QB and the offense will struggle.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1290506]Guys we never should have let leave the building, Trent Green, Brad Johnson, and Kirk Cousins. If those 3 guys were allowed to play out their careers here, the entire narrative about this franchise would be far different.[/QUOTE]


The first two in particular for me. By the end, I was sick of Kirk (although it should never have gone to 2 franchise tags).

I went to the playoff game that Brad Johnson won (against Detroit - hard to imagine these teams in the playoffs together). At one point, he hoisted and body slammed Robert Porchet. The place went bananas.

Not many bright spots since then, sadly.


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[quote=irish;1290526]Rivera is a defense guy so it's not surprising he went with a defensive player. As long as RR is head coach I expect he wont draft a QB and the offense will struggle.[/quote]

I don't know that I would go that far. He's a defensive guy, but he's not dumb.

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"He thought he was going to be the guy," former receiver Santana Moss said. "He sucked ass; I won't lie to you. I broke my hand and didn't play the [final two] games with him. Nothing better could have happened to me, because I didn't have to play with this guy. ... You talk all this stuff in the offseason and lay this egg."

LMAO

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1290528]I don't know that I would go that far. He's a defensive guy, but he's not dumb.[/quote]

He's not dumb but he is a dinosaur.

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[quote=irish;1290526]Rivera is a defense guy so it's not surprising he went with a defensive player. As long as RR is head coach I expect he wont draft a QB and the offense will struggle.[/quote]

I certainly hope not. At some point when he will realizes he needs a QB he takes a QB.

And don't get me wrong, I love CY but I'd love to have Herbert more.

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He drafted Cam right? I think he knows the value of a QB.

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[quote=calia;1290525]Christ that was a depressing read. But Santana Moss on John Beck was pretty funny.


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I loved that too. He would rather break his hand and not play than to play with him.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1290528]I don't know that I would go that far. He's a defensive guy, but he's not dumb.[/quote]

+1

"I like defense, so I'm gonna de-prioritize the most important position in the game"

Don't see it happening. Ron knows he lives or dies with the qb's success.

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[quote=GridIron26;1290516]The fans should chant "sell the team" in every home game from now on until Snyder caves in.[/quote]

No they should continue to do what they've been doing...NOT showing up to games, watching on tv, or buying the merch. But it probably still won't matter...he's going to be the owner til his death.

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[quote=MTK;1290501]Man this sure is depressing

[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32202487/as-washington-football-team-qb-quest-enters-year-29-espn-analytics-ranks-30-starters"]As the Washington Football Team's QB quest enters Year 29, ESPN Analytics ranks its past 30 starters[/URL][/quote]

I just read it on my phone.

Spoiler

Our two current QB,s rank in the 25 to 30 range. =( 29 being our current starter.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1290507]DS is that middle school coach that just selects kids based of size or speed not work ethic and heart.. I bet you he never played a fucking down of any organized football in his life[/quote]

Seriously my kid plays middle school sports, its the almost annoying thing.

They literally pick teams by who has hair in their arm pits.

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[quote=mredskins;1290555]Seriously my kid plays middle school sports, its the almost annoying thing.

They literally pick teams by who has hair in their arm pits.[/quote]

yep it's embarrassing tbh

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[quote=mredskins;1290554]I just read it on my phone.

Spoiler

Our two current QB,s rank in the 25 to 30 range. =( 29 being our current starter.[/quote]

It won't be hard to shoot up quickly on the list, a few quality starts would put TH in the middle of the pack lol

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[quote=MTK;1290563]It won't be hard to shoot up quickly on the list, a few quality starts would put TH in the middle of the pack lol[/quote]

Seriously, I am confident i can make the list by 2023.

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[quote=MTK;1290506]Guys we never should have let leave the building, Trent Green, Brad Johnson, and Kirk Cousins. If those 3 guys were allowed to play out their careers here, the entire narrative about this franchise would be far different.[/quote]


Yep .... so true.

How they ever went from Brad Johnson to Jeff George ... I still don't understand it.

Always thought Ramsey did not get a fair shake. Basically thrown to the wolves by Spurrier. Did manage a TD in a playoff game.

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[quote=MTK;1290534]He drafted Cam right? I think he knows the value of a QB.[/quote]

Newton was the obvious 1/1 pick in that draft. If Ron is in the same position with WFT he was in with Carolina in 2011 and QB is the obvious 1/1 pick then Ron will take a QB.

In RR's 9 seasons with Cam at QB he had 3 winning seasons.

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Did Ron have that much power in Carolina? If you have the first pick in the draft the GM and even the owner are the ones driving the pick, especially if it is a QB

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Heinicke must've shot up the list after last night. Top 15 easy lol.

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[quote=mooby;1291310]Heinicke must've shot up the list after last night. Top 15 easy lol.[/quote]

He could be top 5 by season's end, I wish I were joking