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Put ourselves in the hole in this game and in the playoff chase.

The o-line was bad today and Heinicke was terrible today.

The score doesn't indicate it, but the D was mostly solid. Offense let them down today.

Gibson, if you lose another fumble the rest of the year, you won't be the starting RB next year. We are all terrified every time you get tackled.

Gotta win 3 out of the next 4 for a chance at playoffs. Doable, but going to be tough.

I think we end up 8-9 and miss by a game.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1303653]Put ourselves in the hole in this game and in the playoff chase.

The o-line was bad today and Heinicke was terrible today.

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Got that backwards O-Line was terrible and Heinicke was bad. Pretty sure one led to the other.

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Negatives:

The ref crew sucked cock.

Turner didn't stick to plan

OL didn't do a good job protecting or run blocking.

Larsen out for the year with achilles.

McLaurin and Reyes probably out with concussions next week

William Jackson sucks cock and should be cut

Positives:

Kendall Fuller

Holcomb

Cam Sims

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1303653]Put ourselves in the hole in this game and in the playoff chase.

The o-line was bad today and Heinicke was terrible today.

The score doesn't indicate it, but the D was mostly solid. Offense let them down today.

Gibson, if you lose another fumble the rest of the year, you won't be the starting RB next year. We are all terrified every time you get tackled.

Gotta win 3 out of the next 4 for a chance at playoffs. Doable, but going to be tough.

I think we end up 8-9 and miss by a game.[/QUOTE]


We are actually still the 7 seed. So we do still control our own destiny.
Gibson man. That fumble. My God.
Heineke was just awful. He floated every freaking pass and was hesitant about running. Simply put He was awful.
I agree the D was not bad. Not at all actually well minus William Jackson. That guy is turning out to be a piss poor signing.

I still, for the life of me, do not understand why Ron accepted that penalty down by our goal line when it was 3-0. What is five yards in that situation? Clearly not affecting fg range (i think i used the right word there SD lol). It would have been 3rd and 5. Sure they could have picked up the first, but i want to take away the down there and force them to gain five yards instead of giving them two cracks at a TD. If it was going to be 3rd and 1 or 2 than ok back it up. But 3rd and 5? Im forcing them to either score or gain the 5 and hoping we force the fg. That bothered the shit out of me and of course they scored on their extra third down. Plus went for two. That to me was the turning point.

This team is just always slow out of the gates. Beginning of the season. Beginning of games. It is too much to ask this team to always be playing from behind. For their season , and for the games. That is a real problem imo. Especially when you are a run first team.

A wildcard is still very much there, but man they gotta be ready to go at kickoff. Enough with we will figure it out on the fly bullshit.

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1303654]Got that backwards O-Line was terrible and Heinicke was bad. Pretty sure one led to the other.[/QUOTE]


You might be right about the oline being terrible but Heineke was worse than bad. He might have been worse than terrible actually. He was borderline inept. I think every pass he threw took like 9 seconds to flutter its way to the receiver. Lol.

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Frustrating loss, but honestly Micah Parsons was the difference. He was a madman all first half and we had no answer for him. Last year we bulldozed Dallas with their key players out, and this year they did the same to us. This team needs all the parts in order to succeed with TH. We just don't have that now.

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The team can’t come out at home and go down 18-0 after the first quarter We aren’t a team that can come back from that type of hole. Period. That was the game

Not impressed with coaches today. Not at all.

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dallas is just the better team. i would trade chase or montez right now for Parsons. Parsons and Diggs are better than anyone we have on our defense.

winning 4 in a row was great but eventually we were going to get into this kind of game, where we get behind. we can not play from behind at all.

QB still is the #1 offseaosn priority. we must draft a qb and we must draft one high.

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From what I saw, Heineke seemed hurt or something - all of his passes were floaters like he couldn’t get any juice behind them. He doesn’t have a cannon, but it seemed worse than in recent weeks and right out of the gate. That’s a problem.

That Dallas had to get bailed out by bad officiating actually says something. A terrible start but we hung around until the end - even with guys playing we’d rarely heard of since preseason games. And Dallas had a bunch of guys back (except Pollard, who I think they really missed). Yeah, they won, but if they are confident after that game, they’re deluded. They’ll get killed by any of the NFC playoff teams. And hopefully us in a few weeks.


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[quote=skinsfan69;1303662]dallas is just the better team. i would trade chase or montez right now for Parsons. Parsons and Diggs are better than anyone we have on our defense.

winning 4 in a row was great but eventually we were going to get into this kind of game, where we get behind. we can not play from behind at all.

QB still is the #1 offseaosn priority. we must draft a qb and we must draft one high.[/quote]

It would be stupid to draft one high - really stupid, since no QB coming out is worthy of a high pick. We'd just be setting the team back a couple of more years if we did that and would have to find a QB within 1-2 years to replace whoever we drafted.

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Pretty much what I expected and I pretty much nailed it in pregame thread,if I could pick DraftKings this well I’d be rich
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[quote=Chico23231;1303661]The team can’t come out at home and go down 18-0 after the first quarter We aren’t a team that can come back from that type of hole. Period. That was the game

Not impressed with coaches today. Not at all.[/quote]

were we really at home??

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The trajectory on every pass Heineken threw today. Even a four yard screen.

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He picked a bad time to have his worst game.

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The miscues, the horrible QB play, and the turnovers did us in. Defense did its job, the offense sucked donkey dick. TH is holding the god damn ball too long. There were times the OL broke, but TH was getting the time needed, he was just collapsing under pressure.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1303676]The miscues, the horrible QB play, and the turnovers did us in. Defense did its job, the offense sucked donkey dick. TH is holding the god damn ball too long. There were times the OL broke, but TH was getting the time needed, he was just collapsing under pressure.[/quote]


I wholeheartedly agree with everything you've said.

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[quote=punch it in;1303656]We are actually still the 7 seed. So we do still control our own destiny.
Gibson man. That fumble. My God.
[B]Heineke was just awful. He floated every freaking pass[/B] and was hesitant about running. Simply put He was awful.
I agree the D was not bad. Not at all actually well minus William Jackson. That guy is turning out to be a piss poor signing.

I still, for the life of me, do not understand why Ron accepted that penalty down by our goal line when it was 3-0. What is five yards in that situation? Clearly not affecting fg range (i think i used the right word there SD lol). It would have been 3rd and 5. Sure they could have picked up the first, but i want to take away the down there and force them to gain five yards instead of giving them two cracks at a TD. If it was going to be 3rd and 1 or 2 than ok back it up. But 3rd and 5? Im forcing them to either score or gain the 5 and hoping we force the fg. That bothered the shit out of me and of course they scored on their extra third down. Plus went for two. That to me was the turning point.

This team is just always slow out of the gates. Beginning of the season. Beginning of games. It is too much to ask this team to always be playing from behind. For their season , and for the games. That is a real problem imo. Especially when you are a run first team.

A wildcard is still very much there, but man they gotta be ready to go at kickoff. Enough with we will figure it out on the fly bullshit.[/quote]

That is how he throws. He throws floaters literally 99.9% of the time. If there was a stat for "should have been intercepted" or "almost got my receiver killed again with the jump ball" I'm confident he'd be the league leader in both categories. Definite "gamer", and definitely not the answer at QB. The difference in arm strength and accuracy was apparent with the little time Allen had to play. He might actually be the better option down the stretch. However, if the offensive line plays like it did today, it really won't matter who the QB is.

And yes, accepting that penalty was D U M B ! ! !

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1303660]Last year we bulldozed Dallas with their key players out, and this year they did the same to us. This team needs all the parts in order to succeed with TH. We just don't have that now.

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This is basically how I felt about the game.

The tough thing is, the offensive line isn't going to be any healthier next week, or the week after that.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1303682]That is how he throws. He throws floaters literally 99.9% of the time. If there was a stat for "should have been intercepted" or "almost got my receiver killed again with the jump ball" I'm confident he'd be the league leader in both categories. Definite "gamer", and definitely not the answer at QB. The difference in arm strength and accuracy was apparent with the little time Allen had to play. He might actually be the better option down the stretch. However, if the offensive line plays like it did today, it really won't matter who the QB is.

And yes, accepting that penalty was D U M B ! ! ![/QUOTE]


Lol @ the stats. He does throw like that but today just seemed like he had an extra sheet of fabric softener in there.

Right now id say platoon them. Neither one is the answer, but at least it keeps the defense on their toes or changing things…idk. That was just really a depressing effort by TH, and the O line. It’s ok. A month ago everyone here would have laughed at being the 7 seed today. Here we are though. Beat the fucking Eagles and the bad taste goes away.

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[quote=nonniey;1303665]It would be stupid to draft one high - really stupid, [B]since no QB coming out is worthy of a high pick. [/B] We'd just be setting the team back a couple of more years if we did that and would have to find a QB within 1-2 years to replace whoever we drafted.[/quote]

Says who? QB's will always be overdrafted because the position is so valuable. You mean to tell me if Pickett is sitting there when we draft he isn't going to get taken? Yeah right...

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1303689]Says who? QB's will always be overdrafted because the position is so valuable. You mean to tell me if Pickett is sitting there when we draft he isn't going to get taken? Yeah right...[/QUOTE]


We could have almost had pickett playing quarterback and blewitt kicking.

I have no idea if i would take Pickett if he is there. If there is some stud at a position of need sitting there I don’t know what i would want them to do. Guess we will see.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1303691]We could have almost had pickett playing quarterback and blewitt kicking.[/QUOTE][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

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121st meeting in regular season and Dallas has won 74 of the games. Pathetic. That is not a rivalry that is a massacre.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1303682]That is how he throws. He throws floaters literally 99.9% of the time. If there was a stat for "should have been intercepted" or "almost got my receiver killed again with the jump ball" I'm confident he'd be the league leader in both categories. Definite "gamer", and definitely not the answer at QB. The difference in arm strength and accuracy was apparent with the little time Allen had to play. He might actually be the better option down the stretch. However, if the offensive line plays like it did today, it really won't matter who the QB is.

And yes, accepting that penalty was D U M B ! ! ![/QUOTE]


There is a “turnover worthy throw” with PFF. I’ll see where TH ranks in that category

Overall I’m not mad about that game. I figured Dallas would win, we just don’t have the horses to keep up and with a shitty QB day, u almost have no shot.


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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1303662]dallas is just the better team. i would trade chase or montez right now for Parsons. Parsons and Diggs are better than anyone we have on our defense.

winning 4 in a row was great but eventually we were going to get into this kind of game, where we get behind. we can not play from behind at all.

QB still is the #1 offseaosn priority. we must draft a qb and we must draft one high.[/QUOTE]


This is 100% accurate


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Dallas has struck gold in the first round of the draft over the last 5 or so years

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1303699]There is a “turnover worthy throw” with PFF. I’ll see where TH ranks in that category

Overall I’m not mad about that game. I figured Dallas would win, we just don’t have the horses to keep up and with a shitty QB day, u almost have no shot.


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All the doom and gloom is normal I suppose. A lot of emotions after losing to Dallas is to be expected with all that was/is at stake. However, in the end it was a one score game with a chance to tie the game with more than three minutes left. That says a lot considering how short-handed WFT was today to start the game, and even more so in the end.

If we're able to get some dudes back, my guess is it will be a different end to the story in two weeks.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1303701]Dallas has struck gold in the first round of the draft over the last 5 or so years[/QUOTE]Not really
Last 6 years
Elliot. Ok
Taco Charlton. Meh
Vander Esch Meh (didn't pick up 5th year option)
No pick but got Cooper
CeeDee Lamb has good moves but drops a lot
Parsons. Definitely the real deal







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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1303704]All the doom and gloom is normal I suppose. A lot of emotions after losing to Dallas is to be expected with all that was/is at stake. However, in the end it was a one score game with a chance to tie the game with more than three minutes left. That says a lot considering how short-handed WFT was today to start the game, and even more so in the end.

If we're able to get some dudes back, my guess is it will be a different end to the story in two weeks.[/quote]

Yeah, we were beat up before the start and even worst by the end of the game. The offensive line (as you stated above) and McLaurin are my concerns going forward (particularly, the next couple weeks).

As bad today was for us and our team; we was a Carter dropped bomb away from potentially sending today's game into OT.

Another big one next week. Let's get it done!

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Can we play Allen for the 1st and 3rd quarters then put Heinicke in mid 2nd and 4th.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1303705]Not really
Last 6 years
Elliot. Ok
Taco Charlton. Meh
Vander Esch Meh (didn't pick up 5th year option)
No pick but got Cooper
CeeDee Lamb has good moves but drops a lot
Parsons. Definitely the real deal







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Lamb is a straight up baller.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1303708]Lamb is a straight up baller.[/QUOTE]Maybe, but he drops several a game.

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Funny potential scenario

We win out
Dallas beats the Giants loses to Arizona

That would put the Dallas/Philly game as a game where Philly controls our fate much as they did last year only this time we are in the Giants position.

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Going into this week, TH had the 4th most Turnover worthy passes in the league with 17.

He had 2 or 3 more today.

A TWP = Passes that were dropped by the Defense or just thrown into tight coverage that were batted down.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1303711]Going into this week, TH had the 4th most Turnover worthy passes in the league with 17.



He had 2 or 3 more today.



A TWP = Passes that were dropped by the Defense or just thrown into tight coverage that were batted down.[/QUOTE]He definitely does that often.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1303689]Says who? QB's will always be overdrafted because the position is so valuable. You mean to tell me if Pickett is sitting there when we draft he isn't going to get taken? Yeah right...[/quote]

No I didn't say we wouldn't take him - I said it would be stupid to take him.

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Today was a gut punching reality that we still need a QB and another WR

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1303715]Today was a gut punching reality that we still need a QB and another WR[/quote]

How many WR’s do you need? Samuel is coming back from Injury, Brown is a rookie, Milne is a rookie, Sims needs to play more.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1303716]How many WR’s do you need? Samuel is coming back from Injury, Brown is a rookie, Milne is a rookie, Sims needs to play more.[/QUOTE]Yeah, an RB that doesn't fumble and a lineman that can block Parsons are of more value than another WR. Or a CB that can cover without getting PIs every game.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1303717]Yeah, an RB that doesn't fumble and a lineman that can block Parsons are of more value than another WR. Or a CB that can cover without getting PIs every game.

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People forget we are missing the following:

Chase, Montez, Smith-Williams, Toohill, Hudson, St. Juste, McKissick, Cosmi, Roullier, Schweitzer, Thomas, Slye and still being competitive says a lot. Can’t wait till we get most back.

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Not sure why Slye was included in that. Both our lines are decimated, but that happens nearly every year. I know they upgraded the field, but I still wonder if it is a part of the issue around our injuries. (Not saying it is the field's fault, but if somehow it is a factor).



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