Kenny Pickett , Matt Corall, & Sam Howell
 

The experts say none of them are worthy of going in the first round. But at least one of them will be a 1st round pick. But how much of an upgrade are either of these young quarterbacks are an upgrade over Taylor Heinicke ?

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80 year old Joe Namath would be an improvement over Heinicke. You need more than moxie.

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Willis is the only guy I'd target at 11 or higher.

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[quote=MTK;1311523]Willis is the only guy I'd target at 11 or higher.[/quote]


But Pickett is projected as the most pro ready.....

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As a UNC Tarheel fan, I watched a lot of Howell...and I would take him over signing Trubisky. They made Sam run an odd offense where they ran him like he was Michael Vick at times and he's not that, but he is mobile and strong...and he's got a big arm to stretch the field. I really think he will make a good pro QB. I think Pickett has the same potential too, he caught my eye 2 years ago while watching him play against the Tarheels, you could tell he was better than most. Don't know much about Corall...but I did hear he has dealt with depression and alcohol, so this may not be the franchise for him.

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Take my opinion with grain of salt since I don't watch college games and I watched youtube highlights. But I really like Howell - he has big arm and can move around well.

I saw one mock where we traded down in the draft and then drafted Howell in late 1st round - I would love this move.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1311524]But Pickett is projected as the most pro ready.....[/quote]

I think Willis has the higher ceiling with his overall athleticism, Pickett probably has a higher floor.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1311520]The experts say none of them are worthy of going in the first round. But at least one of them will be a 1st round pick. But how much of an upgrade are either of these young quarterbacks are an upgrade over Taylor Heinicke ?[/quote]


You're drafting for need and you need a QB.
Don't get mixed up in all this "How much better" BS.

Draft the best QB available no matter what till you get it right.
QB value is higher than any other position by far.

give me anyone except for that dude with baby hands.
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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1311520]The experts say none of them are worthy of going in the first round. But at least one of them will be a 1st round pick. But how much of an upgrade are either of these young quarterbacks are an upgrade over Taylor Heinicke ?[/quote]

Experts? There is anything but consensus among experts, on Pickett particularly some say he is a 1st round pick. Not high first round picks granted, but this is rather a large generalisation none the less. QB is a high value position and like any resource they are worth whatever someone is willing to give up for them. 3 or 4 teams will deem them worthy

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[quote=MTK;1311523]Willis is the only guy I'd target at 11 or higher.[/quote]

I'm leaning this way myself, and I am a Sam Howell fan...to me the deciding factor would be on whatever tests they do to determine their "QB smarts"...and who knows if any of OUR guys even know how to test for that. But I'm definitely in the camp that would rather just draft one of these guys and roll with him vs any of the free agent/trade QBs outside of AR, RW, & DW.

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Matt corral has no meat on his body at all... Dude will get killed in the NFL unless he jacks up, plus he's been hurt in 2 straight seasons.

Picketts gloves freak me out and he has a limited arm.

Willis has the upside but hes so raw

Howell is a Baker Mayfield type of QB.. Looks great some games and very avg others

Kenny Pickett , Matt Corall, & Sam Howell
 

[QUOTE=MTK;1311523]Willis is the only guy I'd target at 11 or higher.[/QUOTE]


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Who are the experts? Mc Shay and Kiper? What a joke they are. Can i please have a job where I get paid a shit ton of money to take a whole year to comb the internet and put together a draft of whatever it says?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311534]Matt corral has no meat on his body at all... Dude will get killed in the NFL unless he jacks up, plus he's been hurt in 2 straight seasons.

Picketts gloves freak me out and he has a limited arm.

Willis has the upside but hes so raw

Howell is a Baker Mayfield type of QB.. Looks great some games and very avg others[/quote]

I'm curious to see what your opinion on this [URL="https://catcrave.com/2022/02/24/carolina-panthers-draft-examining-narratives-sam-howell/"]article[/URL] is? This article discussed the idea of comparing Howell with Mayfield.

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All three of these guys, and Willis, are rolls of the dice.

Pickett maybe a little bit more likely to at least turn into a passable starter, and Willis a bit more likely to boom or bust. But all are a roll of the dice.

I wouldn't be against going for one, but I'd probably sign a vet too. If I'm resigned to dice-rolls, I'd rather have a couple cracks at it. Trubisky or Mariota carry about as much a chance of hitting as these guys do. I'll take one from column A and one from column B.

But I'd much rather trade a butt ton for Wilson or Watson, if I can.

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I can't get real excited about any of these guys. This coming year, neither would be an upgrade to what we have now. Might as well roll with TH <-----which I am not advocating for.

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There is a report that Pickett is "doing exercises to help his grip"

Yeah hard pass

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311585]There is a report that Pickett is "doing exercises to help his grip"

Yeah hard pass[/quote]

Spanking the monkey!!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1311586]Spanking the monkey!![/quote]

HAHAHA

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311585]There is a report that Pickett is "doing exercises to help his grip"

Yeah hard pass[/quote]

Oh come on! He just needs to [URL="https://youtu.be/UWVVLKZ56zM"]visit my boy Jack Kelly for techniques in hand-enlarging[/URL]. And if that doesn't work he could always try jelqing.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311585]There is a report that Pickett is "doing exercises to help his grip"

Yeah hard pass[/quote]

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These little hand gifs are freaking me out.

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[quote=MTK;1311523]Willis is the only guy I'd target at 11 or higher.[/quote]

I agree!!!!

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[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/t64n4k/nfl_draft_rumors_malik_willis_blowing_away/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf[/url]

Sounds like Willis is climbing the board

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Willis was helping out a homeless man on a street corner … that is character we could use ! I am pulling for him on the next level !

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[quote=rocnrik;1311686]Willis was helping out a homeless man on a street corner … that is character we could use ! I am pulling for him on the next level ![/quote]

It was staged

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[quote=mredskins;1311688]It was staged[/quote]

Normally I would be on the fence, but supposedly the guy who filmed it is a sports marketer. If I was in marketing and I was trying to help my client get the best deal possible that would be exactly the type of thing I would think up.

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So .. I guy does something nice and now it’s staged ?.. okay I’m interested in facts .. we all know about the fact check . Any proof that this was setup ?

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[quote=rocnrik;1311693]So .. I guy does something nice and now it’s staged ?.. okay I’m interested in facts .. we all know about the fact check . Any proof that this was setup ?[/quote]

It belongs in this sub-Redditt:

[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/WhyWereTheyFilming/[/url]

So Willis hand out some clothes someone randomly filmed it and it happened to get on the internet, hmmmm.....

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Maybe it was staged but it doesn’t mean it was disingenuous. Just wanted his good character made public? [emoji2371]

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Willis is going to have every QB hungry team starving for him by the time the combine is over. Ron is apparently a big fan too. He's got a cannon. We're going to have to trade up if we want him.

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[quote=punch it in;1311695]Maybe it was staged but it doesn’t mean it was disingenuous. Just wanted his good character made public? [emoji2371][/quote]

Probably the best thing that will happen at the combine all week. At least the homeless guy made out.

I kind of want this Willis guy now.

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[quote=MTK;1311697]Willis is going to have every QB hungry team starving for him by the time the combine is over. Ron is apparently a big fan too. He's got a cannon. We're going to have to trade up if we want him.[/quote]

To me Ron has botched the QB position since he's been here so if he's a Willis fan then I think he has to go all and do what's needed to get him. This team has to have a QB and they need to keep taking shots until one hits.

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So I measured my hand size today...lol. 9 inches. Can't believe people make such a big deal out of this.

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I don't know if I can say he botched the QB position. Year 1 he had to see what he had with Dwayne. Year two he tried to land Stafford, Fitz got injured in first quarter. He probably should have drafted a QB in 2nd or 3rd, but all the 1st rounders were gone.

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[quote=irish;1311714]To me Ron has botched the QB position since he's been here so if he's a Willis fan then I think he has to go all and do what's needed to get him. This team has to have a QB and they need to keep taking shots until one hits.[/quote]

I think Ron's biggest mistake was to not get rid of Haskins from the get go and draft a QB his first year.

The only way this team is going to solve its QB issue is to make sure Snyder is not meddling with the FO when they are making their selection.

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Yeah I can't say Ron has botched the QB position, more like he was dealt a shit hand when he got here, and has had some bad luck. Either way, it's time to fix it.

Re: Kenny Pickett , Matt Corall, & Sam Howell
 

Ron totally botched it. Should have told Dan when he took the job that I ain't rolling w/ your guy. Easily could have called up Jay or Callahan and got the scoop on Haskins. He's had two years. Now he's realizing that he blew it. Drafting Chase Young and Jamin Davis isn't going to cut it when you don't have a QB.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1311715]So I measured my hand size today...lol. 9 inches. Can't believe people make such a big deal out of this.[/quote]

I played basketball growing up, i still really struggle to palm a basketball but can if i concentrate. Other kids could grab the ball like it was a baseball.

Just think playing nerf basketball versus actual basketball, your hand makes a big diffrence.

I can imagine that comes into to play for QBs.

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[quote=MTK;1311697]Willis is going to have every QB hungry team starving for him by the time the combine is over. Ron is apparently a big fan too. He's got a cannon. We're going to have to trade up if we want him.[/quote]

Amazing that this is the qb supply and demand right now. Two months ago the talk was about how none of these qb's were first-round worthy.

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A few thoughts from Detroit Lions blog since they are in the QB hunt and draft ahead of us it might be noteworthy info: [url]https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2022/3/4/22961165/nfl-combine-results-8-standouts-quarterback-group[/url]