With the 11th Pick in the First Round, Washington selects…
 

What the eff is up? I’m ready for the draft…tell me who you want at 11 and who do you think they will take. Yes folks, everyone wants to trade down to acquire more picks…it’s rare, so let’s talk more about who you want, what makes sense and who the team will take.

I think they will take WR Garret Wilson, I want Safety Kyle Hamilton.

“Chico, a safety? Really?” Yes the best safety in the draft

John Keim schooled me about how much Ron and lil Bigly value the Buffalo nickel, it’s a massive need (more so than MLB) and a key for that defense. Hamilton fits that role perfectly.

All the signs point to the WR and wanting to add more weapons to the offense. Wilson could fall, wouldn’t surprise me if they go best WR available.

My secret sleeper pick will be if their favorite/highest rated tackle falls. Keim/Reid podcast…Keim gave some insight which sounded like inside info if a Tackle fell, they would kick Cosmi inside at Schreff old spot and gets another young lineman who starts at Right tackle and moves to Leno spot eventually.

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Give me the top WR on the board at 11. Load up on weapons for CW, need to go all in with him.

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[quote=MTK;1314816]Give me the top WR on the board at 11. Load up on weapons for CW, need to go all in with him.[/quote]

I think that is the coaching staff strategy too. Also they want to grab RB later…the offense needs weapons to support Wentz

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[quote=Chico23231;1314817]I think that is the coaching staff strategy too. Also they want to grab RB later…the offense needs weapons to support Wentz[/quote]

I'd look at TE at some point too.

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Logan Thomas injury is serious…TE would make sense and I think with Bates being great at blocking, they would take the more downfield catching threat

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I want Kyle Hamilton, but I doubt he'll be there.

My dream draft for rounds 1, 2, & 4:

Kyle Hamilton
Trey McBride
Alec Pierce

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chris olave WR rd1//// trey anderson LB 2ND

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My top 11 big board (specifically for us):

1. Kyle Hamilton
2. Sauce Gardner
3. Chris Olave
4. Garrett Wilson
5. Charles Cross
6. Evan Neal
7. Ikem Ekwonu
8. Devin Lloyd
9. Derek Stingley Jr.
10. Drake London
11. Treylon Burks

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I know I will change my mind 100 times before the draft.
At #11 there be a few blue chip players that will drop in our lap because a desperate or idiotic team will reach. Count on it.
The WR position in this draft is so deep.
Plus the current top rated NFL WR’s:
1. Davante Adams, round 2 pick 53
2. Cooper Kupp, round 3 pick 69
3. Debo Samuel, round 2 pick 36
4. Tyreek Hill, round 5 pick 165

I prefer we do not invest a high pick on a WR that has a deep WR class.
If a blue chip Safety, OT or CB drops to us, we should seriously consider one. They are not a dime a dozen and hard to come by. Huge value.
A big, strong run blocking Oline that can protect our QB and his fragile confidence would be a win win. There are 3 or 4 solid OT’s in this draft, if one of the top two drops to us I hope we pounce.
We have been a finesse offense for years and seriously lack smash mouth run game. Being a one dimensional offense is a huge disadvantage. We have to be able to run.
Finish building our Oline please.

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While I favor Chris Olave, I do agree it is a valid point that the WR class is so deep in talent that spending 11# on a WR may not be the most prudent way to go.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1314827]My top 11 big board (specifically for us):

1. Kyle Hamilton
2. Sauce Gardner
3. Chris Olave
4. Garrett Wilson
5. Charles Cross
6. Evan Neal
7. Ikem Ekwonu
8. Devin Lloyd
9. Derek Stingley Jr.
10. Drake London
11. Treylon Burks[/quote]

Cross above Ekwonu and Neal and Olave above Wilson and London????

Mine would be

Hamilton
Gardner
Neal
Ekwonu
Stingley
Wilson
Lloyd
London
Cross
Dean
Williams.

But gotta admit my level of caring about it has taken a serious, maybe fatal, hit (for my fandom). Not really sure if I want them to get a hit on their pick or totally blow it.

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[quote=nonniey;1314848]Cross above Ekwonu and Neal and Olave above Wilson and London????

Mine would be

Hamilton
Gardner
Neal
Ekwonu
Stingley
Wilson
Lloyd
London
Cross
Dean
Williams.

But gotta admit my level of caring about it has taken a serious, maybe fatal, hit (for my fandom). Not really sure if I want them to get a hit on their pick or totally blow it.[/quote]

I like super athletic tackles. That's why I was glad we got Cosmi last year.

I think Olave will be the best WR. But that's a hard position to speculate on. I'd be perfectly happy with either of the other 2 you mentioned.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1314849]I like super athletic tackles. That's why I was glad we got Cosmi last year.

I think Olave will be the best WR. But that's a hard position to speculate on. I'd be perfectly happy with either of the other 2 you mentioned.[/quote]

Like I said not sure if I want them to blow the pick or get a good player (actually leaning toward them blowing it). Every time I see that..., that name used or referenced (and especially with players that never played under that name) I grind my teeth in anger.

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I think because WR is do deep this is a perfect time to take one. You are far more likely to get a hit on the talent than you would in a typical year. Wilson is my guess even though I prefer Olave. Olave is so smooth running routes but the potential ceiling with Wilson is higher.

Chico while I agree Hamilton is a stud I just don’t know how many wins this will add by addressing the defense in first round would bring.

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What has been our weakness the last 3 years? LB, CB and S. Pick best player available starting with either S, CB or LB. I don't see WR as a weakness with Brown and Samuel on their second year.

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Draft a QB till you get it right.
Wentz is not a long term answer.

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I’d like Lineman to be honest but I could see them going Wr or CB


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For me, with the draft so apparently rich with WR talent, and having bigger needs elsewhere, I'd be really tempted to listen to trade offers. Every chance we could still land a top LB, S/CB & WR with the right trade down. Just dropping down to the lower 1st round spots could net us maybe as much as another 2nd round pick, and still be able to pick up the likes of Olave, Hill, London, Lloyd etc. If there were no offers worth considering, I'd have to think WR because whoever is top of that pile when we pick is likely to be a good investment.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1314855]What has been our weakness the last 3 years? LB, CB and S. Pick best player available starting with either S, CB or LB. I don't see WR as a weakness with Brown and Samuel on their second year.[/quote]

Agree to disagree, strongly. The last four years our QBR has been worst in the NFL. That doesn't happen solely because of poor QB play, that also happens because of the lack of adequate and reliable weapons.

After last season I don't see how you can count on health from Curtis Samuel. And I don't see how you can count on production from Dyami Brown.

MLBs don't see the field in our defense more than 50% of the snaps. What you're really saying is we need a buffalo nickel and I agree, but that role isn't has difficult to fill as WR. We still have a decent shot to sign Landon Collins back at $3M or something after the draft.

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Unless there is an absolute stud player that can't miss at 11, and I don't think there will be...I'd prefer to trade back and get more picks in my opinion. Hopefully there will be a team wanting a QB still and willing to trade. The way this team has been at drafting WR over the years, I still don't trust even this group to evaluate one successfully.

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[quote=Redskins247;1314876]Unless there is an absolute stud player that can't miss at 11, and I don't think there will be...I'd prefer to trade back and get more picks in my opinion. Hopefully there will be a team wanting a QB still and willing to trade. [B]The way this team has been at drafting WR over the years, I still don't trust even this group to evaluate one successfully.[/B][/quote]

If that is the case, then you probably want them to take one of the top 1-3 WRs with the 11th pick, rather than trust their evaluation on a 4-7 rounder.

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Gotta feeling both Jameson Williams and Stingley Jr will be strongly considered at 11 if there

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[quote=Chico23231;1315169]Gotta feeling both Jameson Williams and Stingley Jr will be strongly considered at 11 if there[/quote]

Definitely plenty of quality options will be there at 11.

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[quote=Chico23231;1315169]Gotta feeling both [B]Jameson Williams[/B] and Stingley Jr will be strongly considered at 11 if there[/quote]

Heard a PFF guy this morning say Williams is the no. 1 WR, interesting bc it was always Garret Wilson 1, Drake London 2, Olave 3.

We may have our pick btw Hamilton, Stingley or London.

PFF guy says London would be a great fit for Wentz. Bigger body WR do well with him.

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Pickett to Panthers at 6 seems to be a lock.

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[quote=SunnySide;1315178]Heard a PFF guy this morning say Williams is the no. 1 WR, interesting bc it was always Garret Wilson 1, Drake London 2, Olave 3.

We may have our pick btw Hamilton, Stingley or London.

PFF guy says London would be a great fit for Wentz. Bigger body WR do well with him.

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Pickett to Panthers at 6 seems to be a lock.[/quote]

With Williams it's all a matter of how much you trust the knee, I think. And then to your point, fit with your needs. London would give us that big body and Wentz did well with Alshon Jeffrey who's kind of like that. But London wasn't able to separate much from CBs in the PAC12, I worry about him getting open at the NFL level. Much rather have Wilson or Williams or Olave, personally.

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[quote=Schneed10;1315189]With Williams it's all a matter of how much you trust the knee, I think. And then to your point, fit with your needs. London would give us that big body and Wentz did well with Alshon Jeffrey who's kind of like that. But London wasn't able to separate much from CBs in the PAC12, I worry about him getting open at the NFL level. Much rather have Wilson or Williams or Olave, personally.[/quote]

I don’t like London for your reasons listened above. If cleared by our med staff I’m taking Williams all day over him. Sims can be that big body WR. I saw a stat a while ago where Williams had some ridiculous big play line…something like 20 30+yard catches?

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Not sure I buy the talk about London not being able to separate, good breakdown here

[URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/3/24/22991299/why-drake-londons-versatility-as-a-route-runner-makes-him-a-viable-target-for-washington"]Why Drake London’s versatility as a route runner makes him a viable target for Washington[/URL]

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Best player at 11. Not the best wr. Way too much talk about the wr's. I get it, there are a lot of good ones. But you gotta grab the best player. If that is a corner or safety then take him.

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If you go WR first with so many options, we can’t swing and miss

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[quote=Redskins247;1314876]Unless there is an absolute stud player that can't miss at 11, and I don't think there will be...I'd prefer to trade back and get more picks in my opinion. Hopefully there will be a team wanting a QB still and willing to trade. The way this team has been at drafting WR over the years, I still don't trust even this group to evaluate one successfully.[/quote]

I don't either. If they take a wr I hope it is cause he was the best player. Not really worried about the guy's size. It's production, the total package. I'd take 3 wr's the size of Gary Clark if possible if I knew they could play.

I keep coming back to Wilson and Williams. The injury to Williams hopefully doesn't stop them from drafting him. I just don't see how you go wrong w/ either guy.

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This draft is deep at WR, I just don't see the urgency to take one at 11.

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Maybe they will find two dance partners this week, one for Daron Payne, and another for the 11th pick.

I would rather take a 3rd or early 4th for DP now, than wait for a "possible" compensatory pick in 2024.

And if they are offered a package similar to what the Giants received for the 11th pick last year, I would take it in a heartbeat. The Giants gave up the 11th pick for the 20th pick, a 5th round pick, and a 1st and 4th the following year.

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Hopefully no QBs go in the top 10. Could help with trading down.

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JP Finaly with a great point this morning that Jamin Davis was a bit of a surprise pick last year.

The team and staff have shown the ability to run a lot of smoke effectively and that’s also been true of the dc media as well as fans. Davis was mentioned last year, but nobody had him as “the pick”.

So who could be that person this year? Stingley Jr. would kinda fit the bill. I think when you look at the tea leaves…performance, contracts, depth…CB makes since for us.

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the team put this out on twitter yesterday, made me laugh

Live look at the replies during draft week lol

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[quote=MTK;1315494]the team put this out on twitter yesterday, made me laugh

Live look at the replies during draft week lol

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRUCWvGX0AAG3nV?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG][/quote]

Ha…that’s a classic

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1315464]Maybe they will find two dance partners this week, one for Daron Payne, and another for the 11th pick.

I would rather take a 3rd or early 4th for DP now, than wait for a "possible" compensatory pick in 2024.

And if they are offered a package similar to what the Giants received for the 11th pick last year, I would take it in a heartbeat. The Giants gave up the 11th pick for the 20th pick, a 5th round pick, and a 1st and 4th the following year.[/quote]
It just so happens that the Steelers' GM, who I don't think has ever made a draft day trade, is retiring and he has stated that he is looking to trade up in the 1st round. I suspect he is changing his ways so he can leave the Steelers with a potential franchise QB. So, if a QB he wants should fall to #11, then...

Coincidently, the Steelers have the 20th pick and we have the 11th. So, perhaps last year's Giants trade could be used as a yardstick for a potential trade between the Commies and the Steelers this year.