Skins v ravens GDT 7 pm Saturday
 

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^^ Without looking it up ... guess who that is. or dont, if you want.

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Put the depth chart up to track the depth guys, who might make it who might not. Chase and Tyler are PUP so those 2 will count against the 53 after week 4 or when they come back.

Not liking our secondary depth at all, especially corner.

Id like to add a vet corner. Kevin King, Joe haden, janoris jenkins, AJ Bouye .. lots of vets still FAs. Some more to be cut soon.

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[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/8/20/23313336/what-are-the-position-battles-to-watch-against-the-chiefs[/url]

hogshaven article on position battles.
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Looking forward to seeing Howell carve up some ravens and kill their precious, cost you Dobbins last year, 22 game pre season winning streak.

Fuck them birds.

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Sunny I'm sensing some animosity towards the Ravens here. Is it because you live in dirty bird country?

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[quote=mooby;1320282]Sunny I'm sensing some animosity towards the Ravens here. Is it because you live in dirty bird country?[/quote]

Nah I like the ravens, love their stadium, love how they have these huge open air bars to tailgate, love going to this firehouse to pre game and eat reasonably priced brats and beers .. all within the shadows of M&T. I have more ravens shirts than skins/commanders. Im in Howard County now so im in majority raven country but when the skins went on that 4 game win streak last year ... more skins t shirts than ravens around Columbia MD.

But they aint the Skins so fuck them.

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^^ Without looking it up ... guess who that is. or dont, if you want.

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Put the depth chart up to track the depth guys, who might make it who might not. Chase and Tyler are PUP so those 2 will count against the 53 after week 4 or when they come back.

Not liking our secondary depth at all, especially corner.

Id like to add a vet corner. Kevin King, Joe haden, janoris jenkins, AJ Bouye .. lots of vets still FAs. Some more to be cut soon.[/quote]

i thought he played ok for us. ;)

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I know it doesn’t matter, but shit I would love to roll on the Ravens tonight and end the streak

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[quote=Chico23231;1320298]I know it doesn’t matter, but shit I would love to roll on the Ravens tonight and end the streak[/quote]

I'm with you. Dan Campbell and his "winning is satisfying" speech on Hard Knocks got me fired up. I weirdly want that meaningless W !

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[quote=SunnySide;1320281][url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/8/20/23313336/what-are-the-position-battles-to-watch-against-the-chiefs[/url]

hogshaven article on position battles.
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Good read! Btw, no 53 men roster prediction thread guys?

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[quote=Chico23231;1320298]I know it doesn’t matter, but shit I would love to roll on the Ravens tonight and end the streak[/quote]Definitely. Enter the season with a W and some real confidence. Wanna see Howell ball out and make up for the bad pick he threw at the end of the KC game. Any improvement on 3rd down d would be great.

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Anything can happen, and I'd love for them to get the win, but the Ravens have been owning other teams' backups for a while now. I don't see that changing tonight.

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Thank god these games are almost over. I haven’t watched one live snap and have no intention of starting today. Let’s just get to week 1 with no major injuries.

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I've recorded a few games and watched parts of a few so far. I like to see certain matchups - like the beat up Dallas O-line trying to figure things out, or our backup QBs working behind our 2nd/3rd string O-line, some of the touted rookies from this year's draft. I know it's mostly meaningless, but I would watch football, preseason or otherwise, before I'd watch almost anything else.

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[quote=MTK;1320308]Thank god these games are almost over. I haven’t watched one live snap and have no intention of starting today. Let’s just get to week 1 with no major injuries.[/quote]Absolutely. Key objective for sure. Must beat Jacksonville week 1. Have a feeling they be vastly improved from last year.

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Ben Standig on Twitter

DNPs: Wentz, McLaurin, Leno, Norwell, Roullier, T. Turner, Cosmi, Thomas, Bates, C. Turner, Hodges, Samuel, Dotson, Sims, McGowan, Robinson, Gibson, McKissic, J. Williams, Ismael, Laufenberg, Sweat, Payne, Allen, Davis, Holcomb, Fuller, WJ3, Curl, McCain, Mathis, Drayden

Skins v ravens GDT 7 pm Saturday
 

Interesting list. Locks for the roster or bubble guys too dinged up to play, I guess.

I wonder if this means Hodges has the edge over Rodgers at the TE position. Hodges was a little dinged up though.


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I think J Williams is interesting, didn't see any injury info on him inthe last week so has he sewn up RB4? Some maybe omitted because they are concerned about getting them to the practice squad if they show too much in preseason, though I doubt it.

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Doc Walker is bad in the booth. I mean, really bad. Constantly repeating himself and using "old school" football lingo (which, I don't particularly mind, but he's over-the-top with the usage).

There's no such analyzing from him. I'm waiting for him to say, "jive" and "sucker."

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[quote=PorkSkins;1320339]Doc Walker is bad in the booth. I mean, really bad. Constantly repeating himself and using "old school" football lingo (which, I don't particularly mind, but he's over-the-top with the usage).

There's no such analyzing from him. I'm waiting for him to say, "jive" and "sucker."[/quote]

Yeah he is soooo annoying, its like that weird dude at the barber shop who wont shut up.

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Haven’t seen the game but looks like Sam is balling. He’s definitely QB2 now


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We need better CB depth, Danny Johnson is bad. What was wrong with Torry McTyer?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1320341]Haven’t seen the game but looks like Sam is balling. He’s definitely QB2 now


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Unless Howell blows Rivera away, I believe Rivera will keep Heinicke as #2 this year. We all know how Rivera doesn't like to play rookies unless it's necessary (Cam Newton is the exception).

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[quote=GridIron26;1320344]Unless Howell blows Rivera away, I believe Rivera will keep Heinicke as #2 this year. We all know how Rivera doesn't like to play rookies unless it's necessary (Cam Newton is the exception).[/quote]

You're probably right. Nevertheless, Sam Howell does put on a show, doesn't he? To me, he looks like starter material in this league at some point.

To watch Taylor Heinicke throw the ball sandwiched between Carson Wentz and Sam Howell, who both possess cannons for arms, it seems almost unfair to Taylor.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1320342]We need better CB depth, Danny Johnson is bad. What was wrong with Torry McTyer?[/quote]

True. There are still some decent unsigned veteran corners available if RR is willing to spend the money on one of them.

Our backup safeties aren't so hot either. Jeremy Reeves might save us at that position. He's had a good preseason. Percy Butler has a lot to learn and Darrick Forrest has been invisible during the preseason.

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Just rewatched the game on replay. Thoughts below:

1) Liked what I saw from Howell. He has a strong arm, pretty accurate, and can make plays. Love the running dimension he brings.

2) Brown can get open but his hands are questionable at this point. Needs to be corrected asap if he as future. He had a few balls this week and at KC that could have been catches.

3) Still really like Jarret Patterson. Hope he makes the team. Love how he runs and it is evident he is a natural rb.

4) 2nd string oline terrible in pass protection. This could be a big problem quickly if we have to resort to them. They may want to look at new guys now.

5) 2nd string secondary got torched. Literally abused and embarrassed by Robinson. Think Chiefs will regret not keeping him. They ought to look at upgrading this unit also.

Very ready for regular season football. Jacksonville is a big opener for a lot of reasons. They will be ready.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1320349]Just rewatched the game on replay. Thoughts below:

4) 2nd string oline terrible in pass protection. This could be a big problem quickly if we have to resort to them. They may want to look at new guys now.
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They were the 3rd /4th string line, none of them are making the team aside from perhaps Chris Paul, but they would have to keep 10 OL even then

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1320350]They were the 3rd /4th string line, none of them are making the team aside from perhaps Chris Paul, but they would have to keep 10 OL even then[/quote]Lol awesome. Thanks for reassuring me. Hope Paul can make an impact.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1320349]
Very ready for regular season football. Jacksonville is a big opener for a lot of reasons. They will be ready.[/quote]

I live in Jacksonville now and I assure you they will come to D.C. ready to battle for a win. Doug Pederson is a favorite of mine as a HC because he is creative and bold as a HC/play-caller. I'd say it's a given that JDR will be out-coached. We have some advantages over the Jags, IMO, but it will still be a dog fight. Enough of that for now. I'm sure we'll have a thread on this topic in the near future.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1320341]Haven’t seen the game but looks like Sam is balling. He’s definitely QB2 now


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Maybe not quite yet for him to become QB2 because RR is a conservative coach.

London Fletcher might be Sam's biggest fan, based on London's tweets about him. Some day ...

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1320354]I live in Jacksonville now and I assure you they will come to D.C. ready to battle for a win. Doug Pederson is a favorite of mine as a HC because he is creative and bold as a HC/play-caller. I'd say it's a given that JDR will be out-coached. We have some advantages over the Jags, IMO, but it will still be a dog fight. Enough of that for now. I'm sure we'll have a thread on this topic in the near future.[/quote]Totally agree. Still think Lawrence will have a great NFL career. Etienne is healthy now also along with a trove of free agents and draft picks. As good as he was in college, Meyer's tenure was disastrous in Jacksonville last year. This game really may come down to who wants it more imo.

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howell looked good (2 really bad plays - big sack and should have been an int throw), surprised he did have that much of an issue dealing with all the long yardage due to penalties.

secondary guys that were playing are awful (they picked on 34 a lot, and he let them)

how many holding calls went against the team? 40? I've never seen so many 1st and 20s.

No injuries that I saw, so that's a win.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1320349]Just rewatched the game on replay. Thoughts below:

1) Liked what I saw from Howell. He has a strong arm, pretty accurate, and can make plays. Love the running dimension he brings.

2) Brown can get open but his hands are questionable at this point. Needs to be corrected asap if he as future. He had a few balls this week and at KC that could have been catches.

3) Still really like Jarret Patterson. Hope he makes the team. Love how he runs and it is evident he is a natural rb.

[B]4) 2nd string oline terrible in pass protection. This could be a big problem quickly if we have to resort to them. They may want to look at new guys now.[/B]

5) 2nd string secondary got torched. Literally abused and embarrassed by Robinson. Think Chiefs will regret not keeping him. They ought to look at upgrading this unit also.

Very ready for regular season football. Jacksonville is a big opener for a lot of reasons. They will be ready.[/quote]

Like as been said, it was our 3rd/4th stringers, but they did indeed look absolutely terrible... except for rookie [I][U]Chris Paul[/U][/I], I thought in contrast he looked really good. For what it's worth without the All 22, he was the only Oline seemingly playing very well out there.
Our Oline depth is very solid.


Practice squad journey man [I][U]WR Matt Cole[/U][/I] made a couple of really tough catches, may help him find a spot somewhere, don't think there's room for him on this roster, or maybe we keep him on PS.

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D Johnson fell for it, D Neal fell for it. Neither should be on the final 53.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1320375]D Johnson fell for it, D Neal fell for it. Neither should be on the final 53.[/quote]

Got a weak spot for Danny Johnson since he took time to take a picture with me during warm ups in 2018, and he's managed to play decently enough to hand in there, but yeah he's getting badly burnt every now and then.

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[quote=GridIron26;1320344]Unless Howell blows Rivera away, I believe Rivera will keep Heinicke as #2 this year. We all know how Rivera doesn't like to play rookies unless it's necessary (Cam Newton is the exception).[/quote]

Howell blows Heinicke away. Its no surprise that a dinosaur like Ron would choose not to make him the backup just because he's a rookie. Its time to move on from Heinicke.

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[QUOTE=irish;1320391]Howell blows Heinicke away. Its no surprise that a dinosaur like Ron would choose not to make him the backup just because he's a rookie. Its time to move on from Heinicke.[/QUOTE]


I think I agree, but RR did bump Robinson up ahead of Gibson. I think there is probably plenty of time to worry about QB -2 with Wentz here though. In other words I hope neither Howell or Heinicke see the field at all this year.

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I'd still rather have Heinicke to relieve Wentz during a game or for a spot start, but if Wentz was going to be out for an extended time then I'd hand it over to Howell.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1320404]I'd still rather have Heinicke to relieve Wentz during a game or for a spot start, but if Wentz was going to be out for an extended time then I'd hand it over to Howell.[/QUOTE]


Agree [emoji817]- if Wentz goes down for an extended amount of time and the season seems out if reach then get Howell the experience but if Wentz is out for a limited time and the season is still in play let TH roll.

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[quote=irish;1320391]Howell blows Heinicke away. Its no surprise that a dinosaur like Ron would choose not to make him the backup just because he's a rookie. Its time to move on from Heinicke.[/quote]

I think experience matters. Heinicke has proven it in the regular season and the playoffs that he can run this offense and can give the team a chance. Howell has proven that in the preseason against backups and players that may not make it onto a 53 man roster.

It appears that Howell is likely going to supplant Heinicke as the #2 at some point this season, but I don't see a reason to force it at this point.

I think there's this misconception that RR would rather roll with Veterans at the expense of the team, but like Punch said, it appears that he was willing to roll with Robinson ahead of Gibson, so I don't agree with that at all.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1320413]I think experience matters. Heinicke has proven it in the regular season and the playoffs that he can run this offense and can give the team a chance. Howell has proven that in the preseason against backups and players that may not make it onto a 53 man roster.

It appears that Howell is likely going to supplant Heinicke as the #2 at some point this season, but I don't see a reason to force it at this point.

I think there's this misconception that RR would rather roll with Veterans at the expense of the team, but like Punch said, it appears that he was willing to roll with Robinson ahead of Gibson, so I don't agree with that at all.[/quote]

Agreed. I also like how RR is protecting Howell, to some extent, of the pressure that comes with the spotlight. By putting him 3rd on the depth chart he anticipates and limits the drama that would come with every Wentz' bad game if he was the back up. Give the kid some time to develop. If he is what we can expect him to be, his time will come.