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Crazy how RW's play has fallen off a cliff, I was all in favor of trading for this guy. Imagine if we did? It would have been McNabb 2.0

[url]https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2022/11/29/23481733/russell-wilson-broncos-cut-trade-options-nfl[/url]

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Seattle saw it coming last yr and hit the jackpot. Not only did they get a haul in return but they are doing great with Geno Smith.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1330737]Seattle saw it coming last yr and hit the jackpot. Not only did they get a haul in return but they are doing great with Geno Smith.[/quote]

If I remember correctly, RW started the trade talks. Seattle just got smart and pulled the trigger, and in their own terms IMO. Green Bay is probably kicking themselves for not doing the same with Rodgers.

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Bringing this discussion from the Week 12 thread:

[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1330708]The Raiders are the only team that had a chance long-term imo.

Raiders should have went to LA, Rams or Chargers should have went to Vegas. Then the last team should have went to like San Antonio, OKC, etc.

Of course, the Raiders won out by landing in Vegas. So good for them.[/QUOTE]

sdskinsfan2001 makes an excellent point here. NFL should have done anything and everything to move the Raiders to LA. But Kroenke had the $$$ to build that behemoth of a stadium in LA.

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Seattle tried trading him going back to prior to the 2017 draft. His diva act wore them out even when he was still balling.

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[quote=MTK;1330736]Crazy how RW's play has fallen off a cliff, I was all in favor of trading for this guy. Imagine if we did? It would have been McNabb 2.0

[url]https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2022/11/29/23481733/russell-wilson-broncos-cut-trade-options-nfl[/url][/quote]

That is a great read and the commanders going into next year could find themselves in a very similar situation where do we bet the farm on one guy at QB to get us over the hump. Denver made that bet and take several steps back.

These big QB contracts can cripple a franchise; the BAL situation is going be really interesting.

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The Athletic is reporting Tom Brady wants to finish his career in NE next season. WOW

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1330765]The Athletic is reporting Tom Brady wants to finish his career in NE next season. WOW[/quote]

As a backup? Why? He's a hall of famer and could have easily gone out on a high note after he won the SB with Tampa.

Also, if he can't win (again) with a stacked team in Tampa Bay, how is he going to do in a competitive AFC East with not the same talent?

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[quote=Ruhskins;1330766]As a backup? Why? He's a hall of famer and could have easily gone out on a high note after he won the SB with Tampa.[/quote]

He'll be QB1

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1330767]He'll be QB1[/quote]

I think this happens if Kraft forces Belichick to do this. Is Brady bringing his receivers from Tampa Bay?

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[QUOTE=MTK;1330736]Crazy how RW's play has fallen off a cliff, I was all in favor of trading for this guy. Imagine if we did? It would have been McNabb 2.0

[url]https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2022/11/29/23481733/russell-wilson-broncos-cut-trade-options-nfl[/url][/QUOTE]


Maybe. Could also just be Denver. I still imagine a guy who can run, and get the ball out quickly with the ability to go deep. The Wentz plus Heinicke quarterback we always talk about. Haven’t really watched enough Denver to know and have no idea what kind of offense they run, though it does seem like he fell off a cliff as you say.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1330767]He'll be QB1[/QUOTE]


Yeah he is still better than Jones.

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The Broncos have been getting HAMMERED every week by the local news, sports shows, etc. Every week it's a discussion about whether this was the worst trade in NFL history, when is Hackett going to be fired, when will George Paton be fired...

There's a theory that this all snowballed since the end of the Seattle game, when Hackett decided to try a 64 yard FG rather than let Russ cook on the 4th and 5 - and try to get the 1st down. The theory is that from that point, Russ doesn't trust Hackett, doesn't think Hackett trusts him, blah blah blah.

I love it. I felt like I lived in Dallas leading up to the regular season with all the Super Bowl talk. I hope they don't win another game, and that is entirely possible. They were already flexed out of next week's Sunday Night game with the Chiefs. The NFL has to really think you suck if they are taking the Chiefs out of prime time.

Anyway, there's new ownership here, and they aren't tied to any of this, other than the new contract for Wilson which was sooo stupid to do without seeing him so much as play a down in a Broncos uniform. They will probably all be fired between now and January, and the Broncos will be left with Russ and his contract for the foreseeable future. This trade may have set this franchise back several years... :D

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1330820]The Broncos have been getting HAMMERED every week by the local news, sports shows, etc. Every week it's a discussion about whether this was the worst trade in NFL history, when is Hackett going to be fired, when will George Paton be fired...

[B]There's a theory that this all snowballed since the end of the Seattle game, when Hackett decided to try a 64 yard FG rather than let Russ cook on the 4th and 5 - and try to get the 1st down. The theory is that from that point, Russ doesn't trust Hackett, doesn't think Hackett trusts him, blah blah blah.[/B]

I love it. I felt like I lived in Dallas leading up to the regular season with all the Super Bowl talk. I hope they don't win another game, and that is entirely possible. They were already flexed out of next week's Sunday Night game with the Chiefs. The NFL has to really think you suck if they are taking the Chiefs out of prime time.

Anyway, there's new ownership here, and they aren't tied to any of this, other than the new contract for Wilson which was sooo stupid to do without seeing him so much as play a down in a Broncos uniform. They will probably all be fired between now and January, and the Broncos will be left with Russ and his contract for the foreseeable future. This trade may have set this franchise back several years... :D[/quote]

Hackett didn't let him ride to the kitchen to cook up a 1st down.

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Watch, they'll make Hackett the fall guy

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[quote=MTK;1330824]Watch, they'll make Hackett the fall guy[/quote]

It's always on the HC not QB unless you are INDY lol

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[quote=MTK;1330824]Watch, they'll make Hackett the fall guy[/quote]

They have too, or fire the o coordinator to find someone to get Russ into an offense that works better him. Which is unfortunate because this system isn’t working and Russ isn’t going anywhere

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1330765]The Athletic is reporting Tom Brady wants to finish his career in NE next season. WOW[/quote]

Sounds like a real reliable source you got there.. lol. The chances of him going back there are pretty much zero.

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[URL="https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tom-brady-could-end-up-new-england-this-offseason-patriots-insider-says"]Tom Brady could end up in New England this offseason, Patriots insider says[/URL]

The Athletic’s Jeff Howe, who has covered the Patriots for more than a decade, said, "Don’t ever write off the Patriots," in a recent article that broke down where the veteran quarterback might play next season if he decides he wants to return for a 24th campaign in the NFL.

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If Brady plays next year why would he go to NE? The team stinks on offense. No weapons at all. Then you have two guys who aren't even offense first coaches calling plays. Then you have to deal w/ a grumpy ass coach and play in cold weather. Old players don't want to play in the cold. On top of all that look around at the NFC East? You've got Tua ( who should be our QB) playing out of his mind and then Josh Allen, plus the Jets who are way better now. It ain't happening.

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I really have never cared about the AFC, still don't. Unless it directly helps us if one team wins or it's like a Chiefs vs. Bills type game, I'm just not that interested. Bills vs. Patriots is a yawn fest.

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Brady should retire. He is starting to show his age and the game is just so different now. I think in a couple more years the league won't have any pure drop back guys.

I'm watching this game tonight and the Pats are going nowhere w/ Mac Jones. He just can't make any plays or carry an offense.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1330860][B]Brady should retire.[/B] He is starting to show his age and the game is just so different now. I think in a couple more years the league won't have any pure drop back guys.

I'm watching this game tonight and the Pats are going nowhere w/ Mac Jones. He just can't make any plays or carry an offense.[/quote]

Maybe it's the more elite the job, the harder it is to step away from.

Seems like Brady identifies himself as a football player. It's not just what he does, it's who he his. If that's your identity, that makes it harder to walk away. I don't know him, so it's just opinion. But I think just in general, it could be true.

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Mac Jones is tired of not being on a great team. He's not used to dominating like Bama did:

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/02/mac-jones-i-just-kind-of-let-my-emotions-get-to-me/[/url]

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The Pats run was buried 3 years ago. It's time for BB to move on

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1330886]The Pats run was buried 3 years ago. It's time for BB to move on[/quote]

I really think BB was put in a crappy situation when Brady left. The Pats ownership wanted to keep Brady and that was their plan A, and BB didn't have any heir apparent at QB since Brady kept forcing any future QB out (see Jimmy G.).

This is why it baffles me that they are thinking about going back to Brady. Like really? He's your answer?

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I think Hoody is done after this year. It will be kinda a mutual thing. I think the Kraft's probably want some fresh new blood in there, it's just time I feel. They're nothing but an average team now.

The division has past the Pats by. They're going to have to try and beat Josh Allen and Tua for the next several years. Ain't happening.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1330859]I really have never cared about the AFC, still don't. Unless it directly helps us if one team wins or it's like a Chiefs vs. Bills type game, I'm just not that interested. Bills vs. Patriots is a yawn fest.[/quote]

How boring are the Pats now? They're offense is unwatchable.

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Did you guys know Jim Irsay has a rock band and he’s the lead singer? He tours with Buddy Guy, Kenny Wayne Sheperd, Ann Wilson, John Mellencamp. That explains why he looks wasted all the time. They are coming to SF on Dec. 10th. [url]https://youtu.be/5DHhnUKPcq8[/url]

[url]https://youtu.be/btVdDpOw-uE[/url]

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Imagine the drugs Irsay has done? Dude has probably done some legendary partying.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1330949]Imagine the drugs Irsay has done? Dude has probably done some legendary partying.[/quote]

Still doing it

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Come on Rams

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[quote=Chico23231;1331284]Come on Rams[/quote]

The Rams just doesn't have the talent on the offensive side of the ball with the injuries. I'm not sure what they're working with defensively.

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The Rams flubbed it up. Too many injuries eventually caught up with 'em.

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Mahomes is Burrows' bitch. Bengals started off slow, but they're still the best team in the AFC.

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Bengals own the Chiefs.

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Welp Seahawks and 49ers won so that stinks

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1331316]Welp Seahawks and 49ers won so that stinks[/quote]

Seahawks has the lowly Panthers next week and the Niners are playing some solid ball now.

I think the Giants will have the same record as us at the end of Sunday.

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SF lost Jimmy G though, that mau hurt them. SEA is a fraud. Their D is horrible.

The tie will help us just watch

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1331321]SF lost Jimmy G though, that mau hurt them. SEA is a fraud. Their D is horrible.

The tie will help us just watch[/quote]

Seattle has the Niners, Chiefs, and Jets after they face the Panthers next week.