Rumors circulating about Jeff Bezos buying the team
 

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From a Commander Insider I know and trust

"That's what I have been told but keep that quiet or don't say I told you. It's some things about to go down."

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1335129]From a Commander Insider I know and trust

"That's what I have been told but keep that quiet or don't say I told you. It's some things about to go down."[/quote]

Yup......

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It be great if true , then they can start now cleaning house

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Please let it be Jeff Bezos. This guy knows how to be a business leader without getting in the way of shit. He did a wonderful job with the Washington Post and they increased it's profits and efficiency. He'll hire competent people and stay the fuck out of the way.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1335139]Please let it be Jeff Bezos. This guy knows how to be a business leader without getting in the way of shit. He did a wonderful job with the Washington Post and they increased it's profits and efficiency. [B]He'll hire competent people and stay the fuck out of the way[/B].[/quote]

I'd support 99.99% of anyone in the world buying the team if they did this.

That's all an owner should do. Their job should be to hire competent people, get the fuck out of the way, and give those people the best resources to be successful.

That's a great owner.

If Bezos does that, then I'm all for him buying the team.

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This is interesting

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/todd-boehly-making-very-strong-105720691.html[/url]

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Report: Jeff Bezos hasn't submitted a bid to buy the Washington Commanders; first round bids didn't exceed $6.3 billion NFL - Hogs Haven

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2023/1/15/23556457/report-jeff-bezos-hasnt-submitted-bid-buy-washington-commanders-bids-didnt-exceed-6-3-billion-nfl[/url]

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1336343]Report: Jeff Bezos hasn't submitted a bid to buy the Washington Commanders; first round bids didn't exceed $6.3 billion NFL - Hogs Haven

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2023/1/15/23556457/report-jeff-bezos-hasnt-submitted-bid-buy-washington-commanders-bids-didnt-exceed-6-3-billion-nfl[/url][/QUOTE]


At this point anyone but Dan


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So much for the expectation that initial bids would be over 7

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1336345]So much for the expectation that initial bids would be over 7[/quote]

Smells of Bezos hanging back to see what opposition he had rather than unnecessarily overpay. Smart poker player.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1335140]I'd support 99.99% of anyone in the world buying the team if they did this.

That's all an owner should do. Their job should be to hire competent people, get the fuck out of the way, and give those people the best resources to be successful.

That's a great owner.

If Bezos does that, then I'm all for him buying the team.[/quote]

My only worry with Bezos is: he doesn't need the money, the profit from this team would pretty much be pocket change for him... so wouldn't he be buying a shiny toy and tend to meddle more than we expect?
Ie [URL="https://youtu.be/NSNXBvpLb9o?t=112"]this video[/URL] has me worrying he's not just a pragmatic business man, but also an egotistical maniac.

I understand the counter points to that are: no one can be worst than Snyder ; he has proven he knows how to generate profit ; he'd have other business to do than pick a QB or even a coach... I'm just not sure those are guarantees.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1336353]My only worry with Bezos is: he doesn't need the money, the profit from this team would pretty much be pocket change for him... so wouldn't he be buying a shiny toy and tend to meddle more than we expect?
Ie [URL="https://youtu.be/NSNXBvpLb9o?t=112"]this video[/URL] has me worrying he's not just a pragmatic business man, but also an egotistical maniac.

I understand the counter points to that are: no one can be worst than Snyder ; he has proven he knows how to generate profit ; he'd have other business to do than pick a QB or even a coach... I'm just not sure those are guarantees.[/quote]

I don't think how much money the guy has affects the amount he will meddle and start playing fantasy football with real players. After all, Snyder wasn't exactly loaded when he got here and that didn't stop him

The counter point that concerns me is what if they get bought by a guy/group who are leveraged to the extreme to buy the club but then don't have the cash to run it well, such as stadium costs and putting aside guaranteed money for players contracts. In theory the NFL should ensure that when they approve a new owner that that is not the case, but has me a little nervous. Besos was a good prospect from that perspective but Dans hatred of the Washington Post maybe be such that he will reject the opportunity to make an extra $0.5b.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1336354]I don't think how much money the guy has affects the amount he will meddle and start playing fantasy football with real players. After all, Snyder wasn't exactly loaded when he got here and that didn't stop him

The counter point that concerns me is what if they get bought by a guy/group who are leveraged to the extreme to buy the club but then don't have the cash to run it well, such as stadium costs and putting aside guaranteed money for players contracts. In theory the NFL should ensure that when they approve a new owner that that is not the case, but has me a little nervous. Besos was a good prospect from that perspective but Dans hatred of the Washington Post maybe be such that he will reject the opportunity to make an extra $0.5b.[/quote]

The $ and stadium points are solid ones. Maybe Bezos objectively is a good candidate, I intellectually understand all the positive boxes he checks, part of me just have this hunch/fear that he also has the potential to be an ego freak who wants a big shiny toy.

Anyway we don't have a say, and won't know for sure what kind of owner(s) we get until we see him/them in action. And I wouldn't count him out yet, if he really wants this team he'll offer enough to get it, waiting to see what other bidders are ready to pay makes sense.

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Could argue ANY potential billionaire owner is going to have some kind of down side, if only by their very nature. To expend the time, focus and energy to build up such a fortune takes a certain kind of mentality and associated behaviours. Some of them know their limitations in the football talent space so leave their GM's and coaches to make the big decisions, but I doubt there's any team out there with a billionaire owner that doesn't meddle to some extent. The key difference with Snyder is he probably still believes he knows football even after all his failure.

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Jones is worse than Snyder .. he actually thinks he is a head coach ! I know we all loath Snyder but we gotta hope we don’t end up with another crap situation..

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[quote=rocnrik;1336361]Jones is worse than Snyder .. he actually thinks he is a head coach ! I know we all loath Snyder but we gotta hope we don’t end up with another crap situation..[/quote]

Not disagreeing per se, but at least Jones has played football to a high level. Snyder is just a wannabe.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1336353]My only worry with Bezos is: he doesn't need the money, the profit from this team would pretty much be pocket change for him... so wouldn't he be buying a shiny toy and tend to meddle more than we expect?
Ie [URL="https://youtu.be/NSNXBvpLb9o?t=112"]this video[/URL] has me worrying he's not just a pragmatic business man, but also an egotistical maniac.

I understand the counter points to that are: no one can be worst than Snyder ; he has proven he knows how to generate profit ; he'd have other business to do than pick a QB or even a coach... I'm just not sure those are guarantees.[/quote]

I'm not on board the Bezos train,dont like him,I wish his penis shaped rocket with him in it would crash into Dan Snyder's vagina :cheeky:

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Snyder is not going to sell the team to Bezos, he hates him.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1336389]Snyder is not going to sell the team to Bezos, he hates him.[/quote]

Money can change all that.

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[quote=Giantone;1336392]Money can change all that.[/quote]

I don't know in this case, the WP trashed him over the years.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1336403]I don't know in this case, the WP trashed him over the years.[/quote]

Even if they bashed him every day, and it was unwarranted (it's not here), you'd have to be a fucking dumbass to not take their money if it's the best offer.

Never cut off your nose to spite your face.

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Snyder does not NEED money … so yea he can give Bezos the middle finger and not sell … I don’t like Bezos either and F the Washington post !

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[quote=rocnrik;1336407]Snyder does not NEED money … so yea he can give Bezos the middle finger and not sell … I don’t like Bezos either and F the Washington post ![/quote]

Well I hope he doesn't cutoff his nose to fuck us poor fans for at least 1 more year.

What Snyder has done to us should qualify as cruel and unusual punishment under the 8th amendment.

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I just want an owner who is going to get rid of that cranberry, Ronald McDonald, Steelers knock off shit.

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WaPo has been bashing Snyder well before Bezos came along. Snyder is also absolutely dumb enough to turn down a billion dollars to spite some one. I think he will take a deal though. That loan he took out to buy his partners is killing him he is not that liquid. This is generational hide in recluse money

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Per JP “Bezos is likely out, the top candidate is Josh Harris. Deal could come as early as March”


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1336454]Per JP “Bezos is likely out, the top candidate is Josh Harris. Deal could come as early as March”


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I don't know if I want a guy that's owns the 76ers and NJ Devils to own this team. Rather have the guy from Bethesda (Boehly)

Never mind Boehly pulled out of the bidding and Josh Harris is from DC.

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[quote=rocnrik;1336361]Jones is worse than Snyder .. he actually thinks he is a head coach ! I know we all loath Snyder but we gotta hope we don’t end up with another crap situation..[/quote]

No one is worse than Snyder. He is ranked as the worst owner in all professional sports (on the friggen planet).

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1336405]Even if they bashed him every day, and it was unwarranted (it's not here), you'd have to be a fucking dumbass to not take their money if it's the best offer.



Never cut off your nose to spite your face.[/QUOTE]I don't know if Snyder would actually turn down that amount of money out of spite... But the fact you'd have to be a fuckin dumbass to do it certainly doesn't put it beyond him...

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I can't believe that this may actually be happening.

I feel as excited as Lloyd Christmas when he tells Harry "We're really going to do this, aren't we Harry?" as they climb in the shaggin wagon on their way to Aspen to return a briefcase full of cash to a smokin' hot babe.


I do have a question though, related to billionaire owners.

Does anyone know how the salary cap really works??

I mean ... it seems some franchises can resign their players to mega deals, and then also bring in stupidly high-priced free agents to build their team. And this is related to how their deals are structured ... ie Billionairre Owner forks out cash in signing bonuses or something to get around some hard cap numbers.

How do these franchises do this?? Does liquidity in the ownership make this possible?

Or are ANY owners able to do this using the cash they make with their teams each year, but some choose to hang onto that cash, and not build their rosters that way?



I want the owner who can resign Daron Payne, and land Lamar Jackson, without jeopardizing losing Sweat and Young in the near future. So whoever that is --- Bezos, this Harris guy, or whoever ... that's who I want to replace our current douchebag-in-chief.

Easy-peezy. lol


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Nice article by JP about the latest on the potential sale of the team:

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/commanders/sources-commanders-sale-coming-soon-top-candidates-take-shape[/url]

Here the cliff notes:
- Sale of the team could be over soon per sources; no later than March (league meetings
- Josh Harris (76ers owner) is the front runner
- Todd Boehly out of the running
- Bezos may be out, but people are not counting him out
- RFK a potential site for new stadium; Landover could become new practice facility

I really think Bezos is going to come at the end with an offer Danny boy won't be able to refuse.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1336545]I can't believe that this may actually be happening.

I feel as excited as Lloyd Christmas when he tells Harry "We're really going to do this, aren't we Harry?" as they climb in the shaggin wagon on their way to Aspen to return a briefcase full of cash to a smokin' hot babe.


I do have a question though, related to billionaire owners.

Does anyone know how the salary cap really works??

I mean ... it seems some franchises can resign their players to mega deals, and then also bring in stupidly high-priced free agents to build their team. And this is related to how their deals are structured ... ie Billionairre Owner forks out cash in signing bonuses or something to get around some hard cap numbers.

How do these franchises do this?? Does liquidity in the ownership make this possible?

Or are ANY owners able to do this using the cash they make with their teams each year, but some choose to hang onto that cash, and not build their rosters that way?



I want the owner who can resign Daron Payne, and land Lamar Jackson, without jeopardizing losing Sweat and Young in the near future. So whoever that is --- Bezos, this Harris guy, or whoever ... that's who I want to replace our current douchebag-in-chief.

Easy-peezy. lol


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If you sign Lamar Jackson that’s all you are
Signing, there will no $$$ for the others. That would be a huge mistake.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1336565]If you sign Lamar Jackson that’s all you are
Signing, there will no $$$ for the others. That would be a huge mistake.[/quote]


It was an example. Not a suggestion.

Some franchises seem to find a way to do it all - keep their players, signing them to big deals, while ALSO attracting mega free agents, and signing them to big deals.

And I think it has to do with how deals are structured and favors franchises who are led by owners who aren't squeamish about spending money. They work around the salary cap somehow. Which is what I was asking about.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1336568]It was an example. Not a suggestion.

Some franchises seem to find a way to do it all - keep their players, signing them to big deals, while ALSO attracting mega free agents, and signing them to big deals.

And I think it has to do with how deals are structured and favors franchises who are led by owners who aren't squeamish about spending money. They work around the salary cap somehow. Which is what I was asking about.[/quote]

It's a hard cap, but bonus money is spread out over the remaining life of the contract (and comes due if a guy is cut early). Most contracts tend to be backloaded and some have essentially joke years just so the player/agent can say they made more than they actually did (tends to only be high profile guys, and not super common).

Either way, yes, you can pay more upfront in signing bonuses and backload the yearly pay, and if the cap keeps going up that can work out. If it doesn't or you're not great at managing it, you're mortgaging your future.

The Russel Wilson deal is horrible for example and they can't cut him because they can't afford the cap hit (they could designate him a post-june 1 cut and then ONLY have a dead cap hit of 70m or so I believe). Dead cap is money you're paying a player that's no longer on your team.

TLDR: you can massage the cap, but no, you can't actually get around it.

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I think the cap is not the constraint this offseason. It's going to be Dan Snyder being a cheap ass. The points about the cap are valid but somebody still has to be OK with spending the cash.

What I mean is, when you sign somebody to a deal, NFL rules say you have to take all the guaranteed money and sock it away in an escrow account. So if Lamar Jackson gets $150M guaranteed over 5 years, even if some of that $150M isn't payable until three years from now, the team signing him has to actually take $150M in cash and put it in an escrow account. After all the only way to actually guarantee he gets his money is to take it and set it aside.

So ask yourself whether anybody about to sell a franchise would want to set aside big cash for a long term deal, for a player he won't own next year. Now ask yourself if Dan Snyder would.

In that light, look for Payne to be franchised, not signed long term. Look for Sweat to play out the option year, not signed long term. Look for Ron to be told to avoid the big money QB market. And look for all of our free agency moves to be of the shorter term, bargain bin variety.

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If the sale goes through sooner, then the new owner will look at it differently. If he's keeping Ron then he might bless some big money transactions. If he's not keeping Ron, or if he's in a wait and see mode with Ron, then he might still want him to avoid big long term commitments until he gets his coach / front office that he wants for the long term.

As glorious as it is to get Dan Snyder out of the building, any way I look at it I think the sale puts some limitations on what the team will do this year.

It's a price we're all willing to pay. I'm willing to ride with what we've got for one more year if it means no more Dan for the rest of my life.

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[quote=Schneed10;1336576]If the sale goes through sooner, then the new owner will look at it differently. If he's keeping Ron then he might bless some big money transactions. If he's not keeping Ron, or if he's in a wait and see mode with Ron, then he might still want him to avoid big long term commitments until he gets his coach / front office that he wants for the long term.

As glorious as it is to get Dan Snyder out of the building, any way I look at it I think the sale puts some limitations on what the team will do this year.

[B]It's a price we're all willing to pay. I'm willing to ride with what we've got for one more year if it means no more Dan for the rest of my life.[/B][/quote]

I hope 100% of all fans are agreeable to this. What's 1 more year lol. I still think we can have a decent year if we can sign a couple OL depth pieces and draft well. Of course, I think higher of Howell than most here.

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[quote=Schneed10;1336576]If the sale goes through sooner, then the new owner will look at it differently. If he's keeping Ron then he might bless some big money transactions. If he's not keeping Ron, or if he's in a wait and see mode with Ron, then he might still want him to avoid big long term commitments until he gets his coach / front office that he wants for the long term.

As glorious as it is to get Dan Snyder out of the building, any way I look at it I think the sale puts some limitations on what the team will do this year.

It's a price we're all willing to pay. I'm willing to ride with what we've got for one more year if it means no more Dan for the rest of my life.[/quote]

Me too, because at the ned of the day thing cant be worse right? If the new owner starts out with like 4 straight losing seasons I'm out.

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Something else probably in the mix assuming the sale is going to happen, as petty as Snyder is, the last thing he would want is the team to actually be really good the year he departs, so there is no way he's bringing in a Lamar/Rodgers/Carr type guy where there would be a chance the team could be really successful right after his departure.