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XFL is back.

Let's go D.C. Defenders! Sounds like this name was done by the same folks that gave us the Commanders.

[url]https://www.espn.com/xfl/story/_/id/35660230/xfl-football-2023-primer-rules-player-salaries-coaches-expectations[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1338112]XFL is back.

Let's go D.C. Defenders! Sounds like this name was done by the same folks that gave us the Commanders.

[url]https://www.espn.com/xfl/story/_/id/35660230/xfl-football-2023-primer-rules-player-salaries-coaches-expectations[/url][/quote]

i like defenders better then commanders

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[quote=mredskins;1338113]i like defenders better then commanders[/quote]

I like Offenders lol. Would be a great fit if Snyder doesn't sell.

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Well this is...interesting:

[URL="https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/02/17/sean-payton-hiring-logan-kilgore-arch-manning-high-school-oc-isidore-newman-broncos-staff-report"]Sean Payton Hiring Arch Manning’s High School OC to Broncos Staff, per Report
[/URL]

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Former Philadelphia Eagles captain Chris Maragos has been awarded $43.5 million in a lawsuit against his doctors over a career-ending knee injury.

The jury at the Philadelphia County Court of Common Pleas found that orthopedic surgeon James Bradley and Rothman Orthopaedics were negligent in the medical malpractice case, causing harm to two-time Super Bowl-winning safety and forcing him to end his NFL career prematurely.

Bradley was found to be 67% negligent ($29.2 million) and Rothman Orthopaedics 33% ($14.3 million), according to court documents.

[url]https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/15/sport/chris-maragos-wins-medical-malpractice-case-spt-intl/index.html[/url]

Team doctors rush player back to field.

Doctors best interest is team who pays him, not the patient player.

Another player won big as well.

More to come i assume

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In the process of moving, got done right at 8, to watch the Defenders game. Turns out, I really am an idiot, they play tomorrow at 8. Good stuff.

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Defenders 1-0 baby!! Managed to actually stay awake* and watch the whole game. It was OK. But it's hard to be too fun with mediocre at best QB play.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1338298]Defenders 1-0 baby!! Managed to actually stay away and watch the whole game. It was OK. But it's hard to be too fun with mediocre at best QB play.[/quote]

They get paid like 40K to play.. It's what we expect haha. Overall it's football and I'll watch

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Danny Dimes wants $45 mil per year it looks:

@NFL_DovKleiman
Update: #Giants QB Daniel Jones wants more than New York has offered him. Possibly as much as $45 million per year, or more. A source tells Mike Florio.

Jones has recently switched agents, from CAA to Athletes First.

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I'd laugh at Jones and tell him to get the fuck out of my building.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1338308]Danny Dimes wants $45 mil per year it looks:

@NFL_DovKleiman
Update: #Giants QB Daniel Jones wants more than New York has offered him. Possibly as much as $45 million per year, or more. A source tells Mike Florio.

Jones has recently switched agents, from CAA to Athletes First.[/quote]

Yeah it's being reported but seems to be very little truth in it. Jones dumped his old agent so rumors are running rampant, it was 35 last week , this week 45.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1338310]I'd laugh at Jones and tell him to get the fuck out of my building.[/quote]

[B]LOL, you would welcome him with open arms![/B]

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[quote=Ruhskins;1338216]Well this is...interesting:

[URL="https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/02/17/sean-payton-hiring-logan-kilgore-arch-manning-high-school-oc-isidore-newman-broncos-staff-report"]Sean Payton Hiring Arch Manning’s High School OC to Broncos Staff, per Report
[/URL][/quote]

Peyton knows him...............

"Although Kilgore has never previously coached at the professional level, he did spend six seasons as a quarterback in the Canadian Football League. He also spent training camp in 2014 as a player with Payton and the Saints as an undrafted free agent out of Middle Tennessee."

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[quote=Ruhskins;1338308]Danny Dimes wants $45 mil per year it looks:

@NFL_DovKleiman
Update: #Giants QB Daniel Jones wants more than New York has offered him. Possibly as much as $45 million per year, or more. A source tells Mike Florio.

Jones has recently switched agents, from CAA to Athletes First.[/quote]

Jones hasn't even started negotiations yet , nothing has been submitted. For now the 45 mill is BS


[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/02/20/daniel-jones-contract-negotiations-giants-nfl-free-agency-2023[/url]

Giants QB Daniel Jones Seeks New Agent Ahead of Contract Talks
KARL RASMUSSEN16 HOURS AGO

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Jones be like:

[IMG]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EJR1H5tf5wE/hqdefault.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1338319]Jones be like:

[IMG]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EJR1H5tf5wE/hqdefault.jpg[/IMG][/quote]



SD be like...............

[IMG]https://media1.giphy.com/media/2Qs2hKWMvEzdu/giphy.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=Giantone;1338330]SD be like...............

[IMG]https://media1.giphy.com/media/2Qs2hKWMvEzdu/giphy.gif[/IMG][/quote]

G1's specialty, a completely unnecessary personal attack on someone here. Wouldn't be a day that ends with Y without G1 being a jerk.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1338337]G1's specialty, a completely unnecessary personal attack on someone here. Wouldn't be a day that ends with Y without G1 being a jerk.[/quote]

LOL....................[SIZE="1"]truth hurts, huh.[/SIZE]

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The Dan Jones thing is interesting. Lot’s of reputable outlets reporting 45 million. The thing I like is how they opted to not pick up 5th year for 22 million but sound like they are willing to tag him for 32.

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[quote=Giantone;1338339]LOL....................[SIZE="1"]truth hurts, huh.[/SIZE][/quote]

The Giants signing Jones for anywhere near that amount is beneficial to me and the Commanders. I'm all for it from that perspective.

But from just being an NFL fan in general, I think it's ridiculous if he gets between 35 to 45 million. So if that's crying to you, then I can't fix stupid.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1338341]The Dan Jones thing is interesting. Lot’s of reputable outlets reporting 45 million. The thing I like is how they opted to not pick up 5th year for 22 million but sound like they are willing to tag him for 32.[/quote]

Not picking up Tran Jones option was a bigly mistake by the Giants…..that truth hurts.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1338341]The Dan Jones thing is interesting. Lot’s of reputable outlets reporting 45 million. The thing I like is how they opted to not pick up 5th year for 22 million but sound like they are willing to tag him for 32.[/quote]

Yup add in that a few other QBs sign that will go from 32 to 40 but at 32 mill he will still be in the middle of the pack pay wise. Giants had no cap space last year, they couldn't sign him.


Once Hurts, Burrows and Hurbert resign Jones will around #15 pay wise at 32 million.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1338342][B]The Giants signing Jones for anywhere near that amount is beneficial to me and the Commanders. [/B]I'm all for it from that perspective.

But from just being an NFL fan in general, I think it's ridiculous if he gets between 35 to 45 million. So if that's crying to you, then I can't fix stupid.[/quote]

Yes it's crying and you're still doing it but please explain how?

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Lamar to ATL is picking up steam

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1338348]Lamar to ATL is picking up steam[/quote]

[url]https://thesportsrush.com/nfl-news-mike-florio-suggests-an-interesting-play-by-commanders-to-pounce-on-lamar-jackson/[/url]

This was interesting.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1338348]Lamar to ATL is picking up steam[/quote]

That would be a great spot for him

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[quote=Chico23231;1338354]That would be a great spot for him[/quote]

what is so weird about Lamar and i see it first hand here in Bmore is he never really assimilated with the city or this team.

Even their playoff game he wasn't there, just seemed odd he wouldn't support his teammates:

[I]Lamar Jackson wasn't on the sideline for Baltimore's playoff game against the Cincinnati Bengals on Sunday. Just before kickoff, NBC's Melissa Stark reported that Jackson didn't travel with the team to Cincinnati. Jackson's absence from the active list was expected.[/I]

He is also not super active in the Bmore community which desperately needs a leader

Too me and its just my opinion he never really or has never really called Bmore home.

There is no emotional connection for him to stay.

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[quote=mredskins;1338357]what is so weird about Lamar and i see it first hand here in Bmore is he never really assimilated with the city or this team.

Even their playoff game he wasn't there, just seemed odd he wouldn't support his teammates:

[I]Lamar Jackson wasn't on the sideline for Baltimore's playoff game against the Cincinnati Bengals on Sunday. Just before kickoff, NBC's Melissa Stark reported that Jackson didn't travel with the team to Cincinnati. Jackson's absence from the active list was expected.[/I]

He is also not super active in the Bmore community which desperately needs a leader

Too me and its just my opinion he never really or has never really called Bmore home.

There is no emotional connection for him to stay.[/quote]

The offense style would fit him perfectly and that division is up for grabs.

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[quote=Giantone;1338346]Yes it's crying and you're still doing it but please explain how?[/quote]

He isn't worth that much, and every dollar that goes to him is a dollar that can't go to someone else. By all means pay him $45 million. Hell, give him $50 million and make it a nice even number.

I'm going to try to make this my last response to you on this site. I'd rather have a conversation with Wilson.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1338360]He isn't worth that much, and every dollar that goes to him is a dollar that can't go to someone else. By all means pay him $45 million. Hell, give him $50 million and make it a nice even number.

I'm going to try to make this my last response to you on this site. I'd rather have a conversation with Wilson.[/quote]

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The Rumor Mill is heating up on a possible Justin Fields trade.... Would the Bears really do it??

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[quote=Giantone;1338345]Yup add in that a few other QBs sign that will go from 32 to 40 but at 32 mill he will still be in the middle of the pack pay wise. Giants had no cap space last year, they couldn't sign him.


Once Hurts, Burrows and Hurbert resign Jones will around #15 pay wise at 32 million.[/quote]

I would like to see data that shows how effective the franchise tag is in finally generating a long term contract with the team. Maybe it is just the Washington track record with using it but I don't see it effective.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1338374]I would like to see data that shows how effective the franchise tag is in finally generating a long term contract with the team. Maybe it is just the Washington track record with using it but I don't see it effective.[/quote]

I agree, when tagged 100% is on the cap for that season. As I understand it they can negotiate all the way till mid June then the tag becomes a contract.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1338348]Lamar to ATL is picking up steam[/quote]

Anyone but us.

Lamar's problem is he relies on his legs to make plays. Once his legs are gone he's shot - he will never be a typical pocket qb that can evade the rush and play into his late 30's. Plus he hasn't stayed healthy for an entire season in years. Once he gets injury prone that contract is gonna be hard to get rid of.

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[quote=mooby;1338396]Anyone but us.

Lamar's problem is he relies on his legs to make plays. Once his legs are gone he's shot - he will never be a typical pocket qb that can evade the rush and play into his late 30's. Plus he hasn't stayed healthy for an entire season in years. Once he gets injury prone that contract is gonna be hard to get rid of.[/quote]

this 100

if lamar was a QB with the skill set of burrow right now Bmore would have already signed him and be done. Bmore is thinking the same as you mooby.

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I think I'd rather have Fields than Lamar

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1338417]I think I'd rather have Fields than Lamar[/quote]

I agree w/ this. Fields has a more long-lasting body type and he can develop into a better pocket passer. Jackson has maxed out his potential as a passer imo. He is who he is.

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I don't want Lamar but I think he is undervalued as a passer. Earlier in his career he was top 10 in many metrics passing but was overshadowed by his amazing speed. He has regressed as a passer the last two years. Injuries? No weapons? I don't care it is enough of a red flag for me to stay away.

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I don't want any QB that requires a trade. I want to keep our assets (draft picks/players) and roll with Howell and a Veteran backup who can come in and not lose the game when (if) called upon. If Howell turns out to not be the guy, the record will surely reflect that, and we can address the QB position next year under new ownership and staff, and hopefully have a better/deeper team around whoever that may be.

He will have his growing pains, but I am somewhat optimistic about Howell, but it will largely depend on the coaches who are ultimately brought in to develop him and this offense, and whether or not they can successfully revamp this O-line.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1338422]I don't want Lamar but I think he is undervalued as a passer. Earlier in his career he was top 10 in many metrics passing but was overshadowed by his amazing speed. He has regressed as a passer the last two years. Injuries? No weapons? I don't care it is enough of a red flag for me to stay away.[/quote]

In fairness to Lamar, he never had any legit WRs in BMore

In Washington I feel like he'd be an MVP Candidate but it would cost a shit ton to get him