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CRT3 06-30-2005 09:10 PM

What Position is Our Weakness
 
I strongly believe that we still need to upgrade the DE position. Whats Everybody else think?

Daseal 06-30-2005 09:17 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
I think our defensive line, while not really the strength of our defense, thanks to Williams' scheme, it does it's job. They allow the blitzers to do their job and thats all we want from them!

Our biggest weakness is probably at WR in my eyes.

Monksdown 06-30-2005 09:29 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
I think kicker is a minor concern. Is John Hall going to stay healthy this year?

Riggo44 06-30-2005 09:59 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
Untill our WR step it up and prove me wrong. I would have to go with them.

Paintrain 06-30-2005 10:04 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
1. QB
2. WR
3. K
4. KR/PR

All of these positions need to be dramatically improved this year if we expect to contend for the playoffs.

Schneed10 06-30-2005 10:07 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
With the stress fracture in Carlos Rogers' foot, I'm going to say CB is the weakness. I like Springs and I like Harris more than most people, but you need more than 2 good CBs in this league. I know Rogers is likely to be physically ready by the season's start, the question is will he know the scheme at that point? He's going to miss a portion of camp with this problem, that could set him back on learning our defense.

Until I see him making progress, I'm saying CB.

WR is iffy too, though I'm counting on Jacobs coming through there.

mooby 06-30-2005 10:16 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
i would say wr for us, our new ones have yet to prove they have what it takes to help us.

BrudLee 06-30-2005 10:23 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10]With the stress fracture in Carlos Rogers' foot, I'm going to say CB is the weakness. I like Springs and I like Harris more than most people, but you need more than 2 good CBs in this league. I know Rogers is likely to be physically ready by the season's start, the question is will he know the scheme at that point? He's going to miss a portion of camp with this problem, that could set him back on learning our defense.[/QUOTE]
Excellent point. Even with a healthy Rogers, relying on a rookie CB to make your defense great is not a good plan. I expect Wilds to be the nickel at the beginning of the season, with Rogers supplanting him shortly thereafter. Barring injury, Rogers won't get any starts until week 10 (unless we are out of it).

aprius 07-01-2005 03:12 AM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
Guard - Dockery is a good backup but should not be starting.

O-Line depth....Brown and Dockery are the only proven backups we have.

DE and DT need serious upgrading. Phillip Daniels is very good. Wynn is good but could be downgraded to backup on alot of teams. Someone needs to fill in there. Griffin is incredible. Boschetti could be very good...huge upside...and huge question mark. Salave'a could easily be replaced and upgraded. Is Charles Howard going to be a backup for us? Will he be practice squad? Massive upside and massive question mark. Noble is injured so I wont include him for now.

QB has been upgraded ALOT.

CB is not a problem. Someone has forgotten about Wilds and Hawkins as good backups.

Kicker is fine either way we go. Chandler is more efficient and Hall has a longer leg.

Kick returner we have a glut of them....Moss, Patten, Jacobs, Brown, etc. ad nausem.

aprius 07-01-2005 03:21 AM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
Completely off the subject....Are we becoming the Steelers fan site? That wallpaper and Warpath logo look like they should be advertising the Steelers not the Redskins. I dont understand what Redskins have to do with steel plates....I guess given the ST situation I could think of at least one thing....

NY_Skinsfan 07-01-2005 03:51 AM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
[QUOTE=aprius]Completely off the subject....Are we becoming the Steelers fan site? That wallpaper and Warpath logo look like they should be advertising the Steelers not the Redskins. I dont understand what Redskins have to do with steel plates....I guess given the ST situation I could think of at least one thing....[/QUOTE]

Which wallpaper are you referring to? Do you know that at the bottom left corner of the site there is a style chooser? I prefer the 50's style myself. I am curious which one you are using that makes you think this looks like a steelers site.

TheMalcolmConnection 07-01-2005 07:38 AM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
I'm definitely going to have to pick an offensive position. I'm also going with WR due to how unproven they are. I FULLY expect them to prove us all wrong however...

paulskinsfan 07-01-2005 08:58 AM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
"Phillip Daniels is very good."

Ive gotta respectfully disagree with you here. Phillip Daniels has shown me nothing, nada, zilch. He is exactly what my buddie who is a Bears fan says he is, a very often injured player who plays well below his potential. How many games did he actually play in last year like 4 wasn't it? If he doesn't produce this year he is gone. On another note, I know I threw this out there before, but why don't we get that WR everyone talks about in the supplemental draft? We could have him for a 3rd round pick Im sure, and who are we gonna get in the 3rd round next year anyway? Where do we need to upgrade the most? Vinny Cerrato. He is horrible. We need a good GM to work with Gibbs, Cerrato has made really lousy decisions and he has way too much influence on Danny Boy. Cerrato is the reason in the past that we often went after the big name players and overpaid for them.

diehardskin2982 07-01-2005 09:12 AM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
WR
will our new wideouts stay healthy all year

MTK 07-01-2005 09:24 AM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
burgundy and gold, skins logos, hmmm I don't see much here that says Steelers, but that's just me. ;)

MTK 07-01-2005 09:44 AM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
There are plenty of weaknesses I see right now until the season gets going and some questions get answered. Here are mine:

WR: I like this group's potential, but until they get on the field and produce I see them as a question mark.

QB: Kinda the same as above, while I have faith in Ramsey and the word coming out of Redskins Park about his improved confidence is great, until he gets on the field and starts putting up some W's, another question mark.

The entire offense: We've heard all about the adjustments, the tweaks to the running game, the shotgun, the increased emphasis on the deep ball, etc., well talk is nice but until we see that this offense can consistently put up points, in the back of my mind I'll be concerned.

celts32 07-01-2005 10:01 AM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
QB is the main weakness because it's the most important position. Without improved play from the QB position we are going no where.

TheMalcolmConnection 07-01-2005 10:07 AM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
The good thing is Matty, defense last year was what I WAS concerned about. I remember the first game after Portis' touchdown, I was like, "Argh, I hope the D is good this year."

Hopefully we'll get the same surprise this year on the offensive side of the ball.

HolyLandSkinsFan 07-01-2005 11:48 AM

Ol
 
Chris Samuels does not have a winning attitude.

He needs to be traded

MTK 07-01-2005 11:56 AM

Re: Ol
 
[QUOTE=HolyLandSkinsFan]Chris Samuels does not have a winning attitude.

He needs to be traded[/QUOTE]

I'm kinda confused here...

Why does Samuels not have a winning attitude??

firstdown 07-01-2005 12:00 PM

Re: Ol
 
[QUOTE=HolyLandSkinsFan]Chris Samuels does not have a winning attitude.

He needs to be traded[/QUOTE]How did you come up with that? He had a bad 2003 and vowed to redeem himself in 2004 and he only allowed one sack last year. He is one of our best lineman if not the best on our team. There are 31 other teams that would love to see use cut him.

Riggo44 07-01-2005 12:00 PM

Re: Ol
 
[QUOTE=HolyLandSkinsFan]Chris Samuels does not have a winning attitude.

He needs to be traded[/QUOTE]
:boxing:
Is that a joke? :rolleyes:

TheMalcolmConnection 07-01-2005 12:03 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
I was wondering the same thing.

:Smoker:???

skinsguy 07-01-2005 12:11 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
Until they prove themselves, I am going to see Wide Receiver - but I do think the position will see improvement from last year.

SkinsRock 07-01-2005 02:39 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
I'll go along with the majority and say WR for now, but I firmly believe that they will prove this to be false by the end of the year.

Yes, the D line could use help, particularly a pass rusher at DE, but with how the D played last year (thanks to Coach Williams), I am hesitant to list ANY position on the defense as a major weakness...

Defensewins 07-01-2005 02:44 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
1) LG and back ups on OL - Derrick Dockery has been marginal at best, no quality depth. The O line has been under achieveing for years.

2) SS - We have only one dimensional SS's. Either they are good against the run or the pass or blitzing. We do not have an all round good SS.

3) Blocking TE - We do not have a bruiser.

4) Pass rush DE

jermus22 07-01-2005 04:11 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
Defensewins, I like your point about lacking a bruiser at TE. That was one of our biggest problems last year: not having a "Donny Warren" to pancake defenders. I hope Royal steps up. Maybe Manuel White Jr. will be used at TE or H-B on running plays.

TheMalcolmConnection 07-01-2005 04:16 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
I remember Royal being a pretty damn good blocker. He might not be elite, but he is more than adequate. I wouldn't turn my nose up at picking up someone even better than him, but that's when you start getting into some money because I think he does the job without paying him huge bucks.

ST21 07-01-2005 05:23 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
Dl, If We Can Play Half-way Good Then We Can Win At Least...9-10 Games

CRT3 07-01-2005 07:01 PM

Re: Ol
 
[QUOTE=HolyLandSkinsFan]Chris Samuels does not have a winning attitude.

He needs to be traded[/QUOTE] And your position on the Middle East is?

I guess you don't see much in Israel of Redskin interviews and all around coverage, but Samuels is one of the leaders on this team. Why should he be traded?

Daseal 07-01-2005 09:44 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
A player that was hurt and gave up one sack last year sounds like what our whole line needs to be (minus that whole hurt part!)

Samuels played well, and he is on the right track as far as I'm concerned.

As is it's a moot point because even if we wanted to we couldn't trade him. Too big of a contract.

SKINSnCANES 07-02-2005 07:37 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
Samuels is going to be a redskins for a long time whether you like it or not. We are financially tied to him at this point.

But with that being said he is a really good tackle, and does his job. We didnt have consistency in our online last year becuase of injuries and that is very important to them playing at a high level. This year with jansens return and a second year under bugles coaching they will be a more cohesive unit and one of the better units in the league.

I think our dline is our weakness. They dont get hardly any pressure. Griffin had a great year but most of our pressure didnt come from our dline and you cant be depending on linebackers and corners blitzing. As soon as they start to make a few big plays then the defense has to back off and cover more, which leaves the pressure up to our dline.

SmootSmack 07-02-2005 10:34 PM

Re: What Position is Our Weakness
 
I wouldn't say it's a weakness per se, but I'm wondering who will step up as our "defensive QB"

One thing that was really great about Pierce last year was that, apart from excellent individual play, he did a great job leading that defense on the field-calling out audibles, telling his teammates where to be, etc. Who will assume that role this year? If Mike Barrow is in the middle I'm fully confident he can do it. But if it's not him can LeMar Marshall handle it, Holdman? Will Matt Bowen be the leader?


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