Flag Football Update
 

On behalf of the front office, I'd like to give you all an update on what's going on with our plans to have a Warpath flag football game.

We've been working pretty hard behind the scenes to get this going. Crisp is working on a registration system in which people will pay to be a part of the team-Crisp can provide further details. Brud is working on landing us some sponsors for a possible postgame banquet. And CrazyCanuck has done some creative cap manuevers to allow us to keep RedskinRat and sign Redskins_P to a long term extension.

Also, we will be raising money for the Good Samaritan Foundation. A local organization that provides opportunities for inner-city youth in the DC area. I spoke to them and they are very interested in what we're doing. Also, I've gotten Charles Mann and Art Monk to tentatively agree to be honorary coaches-but keep that between the 1,000+ of us-in exchange for helping to raise money for their charity, the Good Samaritan Foundation.

Anyway, with all this going on we're looking at pushing the date to either Sept. 24 or 25-during the Skins bye week. And we need you guys to help us out now, any contacts you have in terms of getting sponsors, finding a place to play, host the postgame dinner etc.

I think we can make this really big. Crisp anything you'd like to add here?

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That's bad ass TAFKAS. I was just wondering today about if that was really going to happen... You don't think we could play at FedEx?

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS] And CrazyCanuck has done some creative cap manuevers to allow us to keep RedskinRat and sign Redskins_P to a long term extension.[/QUOTE]


TAFKAS, just to update you. I fired my old agent and hired Drew Rosenhaus. I'm trying to get paid.......I got kids to feed.

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we could use some info on the rules, required equipment (+where to find it and costs), reg fees etc too if you have any of that...

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[QUOTE=That Guy]we could use some info on the rules, required equipment (+where to find it and costs), reg fees etc too if you have any of that...[/QUOTE]

Crisp is your man for that

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Would love to play but have a family function in PA that weekend. My cousin books this function and then finds out about the bye week. How lucky is that.

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Redskins_P is holding out... who's on the free agent market?

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Redskins_P is holding out... who's on the free agent market?[/QUOTE]


"I love me some me"

"Who can make I play? I can."

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Coming off severe groin injury, contract year for me coming up.

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[QUOTE=Redskins_P]"I love me some me"

"Who can make I play? I can."[/QUOTE]

TAFKAS would please confirm that a Redskin_P for SportsCurmudgeon trade is NOT in the offing.

Although disgruntled by this latest selfish move by Redskin_P, his presence really is the glue that holds the Warpath team together. I mean, just look how far we got last year when he wasn't playing!!! How many games did we win? Nado, zip, zero.

Yes - He's a big mouth and selfish but lets work this out. Try to get past his comment that you are just a "company man".

But seriously - Excellent news guys! Count me Thanks for working so hard on it.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]TAFKAS would please confirm that a Redskin_P for SportsCurmudgeon trade is NOT in the offing.

Although disgruntled by this latest selfish move by Redskin_P, his presence really is the glue that holds the Warpath team together. I mean, just look how far we got last year when he wasn't playing!!! How many games did we win? Nado, zip, zero.

Yes - He's a big mouth and selfish but lets work this out. Try to get past his comment that you are just a "company man".

But seriously - Excellent news guys! Count me Thanks for working so hard on it.[/QUOTE]

The way I see it we went undefeated last year when he wasn't playing! LOL. Really it's out of my hands. It's up to Judge Ramseyfan now to determine if Redskins_P is indeed guilty of brandishing a SuperSoaker after Daseal and CPayne allegedly stole his Big Wheels tricycle.

We've excused Redskins_P from all practices while he gets this matter resolved

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So you believe what you're doing is right in your heart? ;)

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]The way I see it we went undefeated last year when he wasn't playing![/QUOTE]

Sure, undefeated until we get to the playoffs. Then how many games did we win??

[QUOTE=TAFKAS] It's up to Judge Ramseyfan now to determine if Redskins_P is indeed guilty of brandishing a SuperSoaker after Daseal and CPayne allegedly stole his Big Wheels tricycle.

We've excused Redskins_P from all practices while he gets this matter resolved[/QUOTE]

Well, with any luck the the trial will be postponed after the bye week. Besides, if the only evidence against him is the word of Daseal and CPayne, the case isn't built on the strongest of evidence... I mean really, Daseal's credibility? I have one word for you - Spurrier. And all we have to do to undermine CPayne is give him the old Chad Morton Avatar and wait for him to go ballistic (or was that CRT??).

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]So you believe what you're doing is right in your heart? ;)[/QUOTE]

LOL...of course, we can't forget your "courageous" performance last season. You were so brave out there

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At this point, I'm looking at eBay Giving Works's "Mission Fish" service as an online auctioneering tool that will allow us to auction off the roster spots. Obviously, in order for this thing to come to life, we need to be able to guarantee a certain amount of charitable income for The Good Samaritan Foundation, so I'm planning on setting minimum bids for the roster spots that will ensure this event is worth the organization's time.

We're still working on what the roster sizes should be, and from that we'll be able to determine how much the minimum bids should be for each roster spot.

We also need your help in locating a sponsor(s) who would be able to cover the costs of team jerseys-- probably the largest expense we're going to encounter in organizing this thing.

Sponsors will also be needed for gameday provisions such as flag-belts for the players, sports beverages, team and MVP trophies, etc. If you or anyone you know can help provide these items, please let me know. Just post your message on this thread.

The details of organizing the actual teams are still somewhat nebulous, but we'd like to get each of the major unofficial Redskins fan websites involved (at least us, Extremeskins, TheHogs.net, hailRedskins.com). In terms of numbers, what we're basically looking at is teams of around 20 players. That roster size would provide a full offense, defense and 4-man bench for an 8-on-8 game format.

Given the fact that everyone's from different geographic areas, it will be tough to organize practices, so what we were thinking about doing is having a designated practice period the morning of the tournament, for about 2 hours-- say 10am to 12pm. That would give players time to get to the practice location, and then teammates would be able to meet each other, run some plays, figure out their gameplans, etc. Then everyone would break for lunch, and would return for the actual tournament. It would be great if we could arrange some sort of sponsored lunch, with some kind of informational program on The Good Samaritan Foundation, so everyone could learn a little something about the organization we're supporting. That would give players time to digest their food before heading back out to the field.

The team matchups would be determined by random drawing, and each game would last approximately 40 minutes (10 min. quarters with a running clock). There would need to be a short halftime as well, so that would bump up the total game time to around 45-50 minutes.

Assuming there are 4 teams, we'd have only one qualifying round for the championship game. The championship game would be held a little later in the day, with an awards banquet and dinner following the game. The tournament champion and offensive and defensive MVPs for each team would be presented with their trophies at the banquet. We're tentatively planning on having the honorary coaches-- Art Monk and Charles Mann-- select the MVPs, and present them with their awards.

That's all the details I have for now. Please post here and let me know if you have any ideas or potential sponsors that could help get this thing off the ground.

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My ideas for sponsors, and this is for everyone, is to find an organization that is national or international in your area. Because, as Joe said, we are all from different geographical locations, Mike's Donut Shop won't exactly want to support our team when we're 100+ miles away.

So far, what you're saying looks excellent and very much doable.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]The way I see it we went undefeated last year when he wasn't playing! LOL. Really it's out of my hands. It's up to Judge Ramseyfan now to determine if Redskins_P is indeed guilty of brandishing a SuperSoaker after Daseal and CPayne allegedly stole his Big Wheels tricycle.

We've excused Redskins_P from all practices while he gets this matter resolved[/QUOTE]


It was two bigwheels tricycles!

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]SAnd all we have to do to undermine CPayne is give him the old Chad Morton Avatar and wait for him to go ballistic (or was that CRT??).[/QUOTE]

See, you've got the wrong guy!!! I'm innocent, I tell ya, innocent!!!

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]LOL...of course, we can't forget your "courageous" performance last season. You were so brave out there[/QUOTE]


Oh so Malcolm is the courageous one now? I thought I was? Whatever happened to "Redskins_P is super smart, and the thing about him is.....he's a tough son of gun".

TAFKAS, you know what Kevin Winslow was right. You're not a man of your word.

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Is anyone else just completely pumped that this is looking like it could actually happen now?

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Is anyone else just completely pumped that this is looking like it could actually happen now?[/QUOTE]

Actually I'm starting to feel some pressure here. This is like a fulltime job putting this all together

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Well originally I "offered" my assistance, but I was on a need-to-know basis. At that current juncture, I did not need to know.

If we win, just remember whose idea this was. If we lose, Redskins_P did it.

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Depending on PSU schedule I would love to come down. Anyone looking for a 6'1" 245lb OLB/h-back with the Postons as agents lemme know. :headbange

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Is anyone else just completely pumped that this is looking like it could actually happen now?[/QUOTE]

Yeah! I'm pumped to hear its back and being discussed. I thought the idea kinda died out, but now I'm in scramble mode to see how I could fit that inthat weekend because I have to be there!

Btw, TAKFAS if you need help PM me. I dont know what I could do, but if theres anything you think I could, dont hesitate to drop me a line.

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getting sponsorships should be a bit easier since its for charity and art monk/charles mann are interested...

we may need to look into a ref and get doc and mitchell out for post game interviews ;)

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Joe Crisp, that's a tremendous idea with auctioning off the roster spots, that's a great way to raise the cash for charity. I like it.

At this point I plan on bidding for one of those roster spots, I don't know of any schedule conflicts for that weekend. Hopefully The Warpath can use a 6'2" 200 pounder at WR, CB, or Safety. I'll have to get into shape a bit though, my endurance ain't what it used to be; I'll be suckin wind after one pass pattern!

I plan on representing myself in contract negotiations. I fired Rosenhaus, he has been paying too much attention to Redskin_P's holdout.

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I represent myself for the love of the game. ;)

Any rough idea on how much these roster spots will cost? I REALLY want to play, but not for like 200 dollars or more... :(

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I represent myself for the love of the game. ;)

Any rough idea on how much these roster spots will cost? I REALLY want to play, but not for like 200 dollars or more... :([/QUOTE]

Since we'll have 20 roster spots, if a roster spot is $100 that would amount to $2000 for the charity. I have no idea what amount a charity would deem worthwhile though. Maybe they'd work with us for $500, maybe they need more, Joe Crisp do you know?

Really, I'm thinking these roster spots will be driven by supply and demand. There would be a minimum starting bid, and from there it would just depend on who is willing to bid the most. I have only been on this site for a couple months, but I'm not sure I can see 20 different people on here shelling out $100 each for a roster spot. But Joe Crisp is the man on these questions.

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A poor college student such as myself would love to get involved.

Guys, just flew in from NFL Flag Europe. Ready to be your next Kurt Warner/ whoever else played well in the NFL and then became a bum.

A currently agentless towering 6'1, massive 200lbs structure, willing to play any position. "The kid is in great shape" said former High School coach D. Earnhardt "Scary, a little high strung, and very agrressive, I think he can be rookie of the tournie for his team"

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Well we're hoping to get other sites involved as well so it would be more than 20 roster spots.

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20 roster spots per team though?

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Like Jamaican 'Skin, I'm a poor college kid who'd love to get into a game. Let me know when you get details about cost, equipment, rules, etc. Hope it works out. :biggthump

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There's no way I (and a lot of other people) would be able to make it, so my suggestion and request is for someone to video the event and post it on the site so the rest of us can watch. I figured that was planned on already but I didn't see any mention of it thus far so I brought it up.

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[QUOTE=PSUskinsfan11]Depending on PSU schedule I would love to come down. Anyone looking for a 6'1" 245lb OLB/h-back with the Postons as agents lemme know. :headbange[/QUOTE]

LaVar? Is that you??? :lol:

Sounds like you'd be a welcome physical presence on the Warpath roster, PSUskinsfan11. Hope you've got the money to back it up! Remember, it's all for a good cause! :)

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]Since we'll have 20 roster spots, if a roster spot is $100 that would amount to $2000 for the charity. I have no idea what amount a charity would deem worthwhile though. Maybe they'd work with us for $500, maybe they need more, Joe Crisp do you know?

Really, I'm thinking these roster spots will be driven by supply and demand. There would be a minimum starting bid, and from there it would just depend on who is willing to bid the most. I have only been on this site for a couple months, but I'm not sure I can see 20 different people on here shelling out $100 each for a roster spot. But Joe Crisp is the man on these questions.[/QUOTE]

TAFKAS is our contact man for The Good Samaritan Foundation, and he'd be able to get the bottom line info from them, but I'm thinking we'd need to generate around $10,000 total charitable income (the money raised from the roster auctions from all the sites involved) for this to be a viable event. Any amount for a charity is fine, of course, but we want this to be an annual event, and in order for that to happen, we need to show the sponsors and the charity that we mean business-- literally!

Remember, we're the smallest Redskins fan website-- in terms of total membership (just over 1,000)-- of the "Big 4" non-profit Redskins sites. That means the supply and demand dynamic for our roster spots is going to be a little less competitive than it will be for the other sites-- especially Extremeskins, which boasts over 34,000 members. Combined, all of the websites should be able to produce a total contribution in the range of $8,000 to $10,000.

I was thinking that a minimum bid of $35 would be reasonable, and that competitive bidding would likely drive the average winning bids into the range of $100 or so. That may be optimistic, but it may also be a very conservative estimate.

I think a lot depends on what we're able to do with sponsors, and what potential prizes we might have on the line for the winning team and MVPs of the tournament. If we can line up some great prizes, folks might be willing to bid a little higher for an opportunity to compete for the goodies. Obviously, trophies and awards would be in order, but some cool toys might also up the ante a bit.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]20 roster spots per team though?[/QUOTE]

That's what we're looking at right now. Since the flag football format would be 8-on-8, that would allow for a full offensive and defensive roster, as well as four reserve spots for each team.

Do you think it should be more or less than that? Whatever input you guys have is certainly welcome.

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I think that's about right. However, the more spots, the easier it will be for people to afford to at least "be" on the team.

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I'm not sure charging admission for spectators would be a good idea, but have a place to solicit donations and a PA to talk about the charity etc would definately be a good idea...

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That's true. But also I think that if people were charged maybe five bucks, they would be willing to pay since it's such a negligible amount and if it was a decent turnout that would raise a lot of money for the organization. Also, if there are more players or coaches involved, people would be more willing to pay to watch and get autographs.

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An organized concession stand might also generate some cash. Probably only a couple hundred bucks but it would add to the "event" feel. I think to get to the 8000-10000 range we need to come up with every way possible to make money.
I have been involved with fund raisers before and the most important thing is getting some celebs that people care about and would pay to play for AND come see. Monk and Mann would be utterly fantastic. Maybe Mr Cooley would be willing to oblige but I imagine you all have gone down the list looking for people.
I think trying to get some memorabilia to auction off would be a good idea.
I wonder if the skins would be interested in sending some of their productions guys out to tape the event for redskins.com? I mea if this could be an actual "event" then they definitly might want in on the action. Has anyone considered contacting the Cheerleaders? They do tons of charitable stuff.