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Redskins_P 07-14-2005 09:50 AM

Goodbye Kwame.....
 
[URL=http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2107572]Goodbye Kwame[/URL]


What does everyone think? I like the trade simply because I'm sick and tired of Kwame. If he blows up in LA, oh well. He wasn't going to do it DC, thats for sure.

SmootSmack 07-14-2005 11:35 AM

Re: Goodbye Kwame.....
 
It would have been nice to get that first round pick as well from the Lakers next year. Kwame showed flashes of being a really dominating player but they were too few and far between. It seemed like for every step forward he took he took two steps back. And maybe a change of scenery will help him anyway.

Caron Butler and Chucky Atkins can help us immediately. It's funny when you think of how a couple of years ago everyone here was upset that we just missed out on Caron in the draft, but now we got him. He's a decent, solid player and gives us some depth

But I'm really excited about Atkins. I think he's very underrated and he could have a Chauncey Billups-esque impact on our team.

Big C 07-14-2005 02:48 PM

Re: Goodbye Kwame.....
 
if he thought he was under pressure in washington, in LA its going to be 10 times as much. the lakers are expected to be great every year and thats just higher expectations for kwame now. now we have a new starting SG in Butler, and a solid bench gut in Atkins with playoff experience and 3 point ability. pretty good trade for us

BDBohnzie 07-14-2005 03:47 PM

Re: Goodbye Kwame.....
 
good riddance!

FRPLG 07-14-2005 04:09 PM

Re: Goodbye Kwame.....
 
Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

SmootSmack 07-14-2005 04:19 PM

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I know it's only summer league but I hear that their latest high school draft pick Andray Blatche is really turning heads in the summer league. Averaging 10 points and 7 boards

That Guy 07-14-2005 04:43 PM

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blatche is a great pick straight up.

glad kwame is gone... wish we good get a big man, but there's nothing out there... i'm really kinda surprised kwame got more than a case of beer, but the big man market really is that bad.

Redskins_P 07-14-2005 04:46 PM

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]I know it's only summer league but I hear that their latest high school draft pick Andray Blatche is really turning heads in the summer league. Averaging 10 points and 7 boards[/QUOTE]


I've been following the summer league and by looking at the box scores, it seems like Blatche is already making a name for himself. Funny that we didn't draft this kid until the 2nd round and Kwame was first overall. And this kid Blatche is already turning heads.

TAFKAS, what happened to our boy Peter John Ramos? He hasn't done jack.

You Puerto Ricans should stick to baseball, j/k.

Redskins_P 07-14-2005 04:51 PM

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[QUOTE=That Guy]blatche is a great pick straight up.

glad kwame is gone... wish we good get a big man, but there's nothing out there... i'm really kinda surprised kwame got more than a case of beer, but the big man market really is that bad.[/QUOTE]


Kwame still has potential since he's only 23. But you're right I'm surprised they gave up that much for him. I guess they see something in him. I already gave up on him.

SmootSmack 07-14-2005 05:06 PM

Re: Goodbye Kwame.....
 
Ramos is saving it for the playoffs!

skinsfanthru&thru 07-14-2005 05:10 PM

Re: Goodbye Kwame.....
 
I'm a Lakers fan and I could have semi lived with the deal when it was Butler for Brown but I'm kinda pissed that the Lakers have thrown in Atkins as well. I don't know if that's salary related or what cuz he played pretty well last year even though he's not really a strong pg cuz he's not as good of a passer as that position demands. But if it's between giving away Atkins or Devean George, the wiz can have Atkins.

But as much as people hate on Brown, if anyone can help him with his low post numbers, it'd be Phil Jackson utilizing the triangle.

Big C 07-14-2005 11:44 PM

Re: Goodbye Kwame.....
 
whats so great about devean george besides his all time high scoring avg. of like 7.2

SmootSmack 07-15-2005 02:00 AM

Re: Goodbye Kwame.....
 
I think it's funny when I hear people, such as some experts on ESPN.com as well as his Kwame's agent, say that this will be good for him because he doesn't have to be the go-to guy and also he'll have Kobe to help him out. Are you kidding me? When was he ever asked to be the main guy here? The Wizards never put any pressure on him to be the go-to guy. And Kobe isn't going to coddle him. Kobe is a Michael Jordan wannabe who will yell at and berate Kwame.

Maybe Kwame will blossom in LA, but this is a deal that had to be done. The only concern on our end is that we're getting two guys entering the last year of their contracts (though Butler is restricted). But when you think about it, we've added a solid, consistent young swingman, a veteran point guard who can hit the open jumper, and word is we're getting Donyell Marshall as well. All those guys for the same amount of money, if not less, than we would have had to pay Hughes had we given him what we wanted. I'm not going to flat out say that we're better now than we were at the end of the season...but maybe we are.

itvnetop 07-15-2005 02:11 AM

Re: Goodbye Kwame.....
 
The FO gets an A for making sound decisions thus far... I think Ludacris can be had for the MLE too, so we can move Twan back to the 3.

itvnetop 07-19-2005 12:33 AM

Re: Goodbye Kwame.....
 
[URL=http://d46.yousendit.com/D/23R8ARGYNSJXT1AAGM7MB0AFH5/Caron%20butler%20mix%20with%20edited%20video.wmv]Hello Caron![/URL]

Audio not worksafe (Dr. Dre uncensored)

SmootSmack 07-19-2005 11:31 PM

Re: Goodbye Kwame.....
 
Have any of you heard about this? Rumors I'm hearing say that the Wizards are very close to signing Antonio Daniels, which would give them a big, true point guard who doesn't turn the ball over.

They then plan on trading Chucky Atkins, meaning we would lose a legit 3-point shooter, along with Blake or Dixon and probably Jeffries to Atlanta most likely for Al Harrington and maybe a pick.

Daniels is solid and it would probably mean Arenas at the 2 and Butler back at his natural SF spot, but I was kind of looking forward to Atkins being here

TheMalcolmConnection 07-19-2005 11:41 PM

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I think that trade would be a push.

SmootSmack 07-20-2005 12:06 AM

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well ESPN just said Daniels to the Wizards 5 years, $30 million. This is very similar to the Arenas signing. He was being courted by many teams then it seemed like out of nowhere came the Wizards to get GA.

Long term I don't care much for the deal (too much money for a 30 year old PG), but I think he can make an immediate positive impact on the team.

itvnetop 07-20-2005 04:40 AM

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i like the deal a lot... daniels was the guy i wanted from the beginning of FA... tall PG that can also play the 2. excellent on ball perimeter defender (better than Hughes IMO- Larry played lanes well hence his steals, but he couldn't defend anyone with a post game at that position). AD is also fearless to the hoop. The Wiz have upgraded their defensive game while creating a more effective half court offense (their bigs should get more involved with AD at the point). With Gil, Caron, and AD this is a tough squad.

If we were to nab harrington, this is a super offseason.

That Guy 07-25-2005 02:45 AM

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kwame's gone, its already super.

onlydarksets 08-08-2005 09:24 PM

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Did anyone see the spread in ESPN magazine about Kwame? It wasn't a negative article, but they were really stretching for good things to say about him.


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