Grim...
 

I've been a skins fan and an observer here at the warpath for many years. (though this is my first post...)
I like to be an optimist, but this season looks really grim to me. The skins seem laden with excessive turmoil (uncharacteristic for our ball club over the years,) with the Gardner, Arrington, and Taylor situations...especially Taylor...what is that!!
I feel that the dynamics of the NFL have changed and there are a lot of guys just out for themselves and a big paycheck (all over the NFL and not necessarily just with the skins.)
What happened to the good old days with guys like Joe Jacoby, playing with a broken hand in that big old club cast?! Or Darrel Green running back that punt against the bears with a broken rib?! Guys who really wanted to play and win...
I have faith in the defense...and I'm glad we got rid of Smoot as I think he's one of the paycheck guys I referred to above...(but always questioned losing Champ Bailey.)
I think our offensive line is weak, and our recievers are nothing exceptional. I think Portis is arrogant (have you seen this guy on BET or any other outlet?!!) and I just don't know that Gibbs (though he's truly a class act...Look at his accomplishments!!) can rally this group...and at that if they really want to win....all of this, and a more or less "rookie" at the helm...(the team's leadership position)???
I love the skins but don't have a good feeling about the upcoming season. Somebody help me see things in a new light?

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Ugh. :Smoker:???

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Basically to put to rest everything you said...

The offseason PROBLEMS that you state we are having are basically centered around Taylor. Evidence and facts are pointing to him getting off scott-free. Gardner was waiting to happen and has since been replaced with Patten, a proven scoring threat, Moss (when healthy) converts nearly half his touches into first downs and others. Arrington has already stated that he's trying to work things out directly with the management and not through a medium, which means he's trying to work things out. I just think he's too proud to go down without a fight.

Last year Brandon Noble played most of the year with that huge club you spoke of and Randy Thomas worked through injuries JUST to get back on the field. Unless ALL the things we've heard directly from the Skins collective mouths has been pure bullshit, EACH player has bought into the team-first mentality.

Our offensive line is one of the top lines in the game. How is it weak? Even people who are biased against us have said we will have more of the dominant lines in the game.

Portis became one of our biggest leaders in the offseason. He is the one starting the team-first mentality. Arrogant on BET? Fine. Arrogant on the football field? Fine too, as long as you back it up.

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You have to quite reading what all of the so called sport writers are saying. Just read one and you have read them all. Camp was replaced and we did not miss a beat at CB and if I'm correct Springs had more interceptions than Bailey. Portis from what I have seen of him does not seem that arrogant and seems to be a team player. Its great to have a back with a bad year with over 1300 yards rushing. Ramsey is not a rooky he is in his fourth year in this league. If your are talking about Campbell then I dout you are a Redskin fan because you do not know that Ramsey is our starter. The turmoil in players is Gardner he is gone , Arrington will play his heart out for the fans and will work things out with the front office, Taylor, there have been alot of teams with players in legal trouble and they were just fine. Maybe this will kick Taylors ass and he will get his act together if not let the chips will fall where they fall. I think the media makes things like this more of an issue than they are THATS THEIR JOB.I think the Skins will have their best year sence 1999 and will make a wild card spot. All we need is our D to play as good as last year and our O to score one more TD a game than last. That sounds like alot but look how poor they played last year and we were in almost every game to the end. Look at all the players we have brought in on special teams that will add a win or two by itself. Its time for no more doom and gloom and just get excited for another year of FOOTBALL!

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Exactly. Bottom 3 in offense I believe but STILL were in MOST games.

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Amen Brother! We will have a much better line with Jon Jansen returning, & even if Mr. (false Start) Dockery sucks, insert Ray Brown, guard is his natural position anyway! Plus we added casey rabach at center, then you still have samuels, & thomas. Barring no injuries we will have 1 big ass burly line that will be a throw back 2 our glory years. Go Buges!!!!
About our receivers, Laverneous can take his injured toe & STICK IT UP HIS ASSSSSSS! IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PLAY HEAR GET THE HELL OUT!!!
& YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT PATTEN, & MOSS. JUST THINK IF TAYLOR JACOBS HAS A BREAKOUT YEAR AND THEN YOU HAVE DARNERIAN MCANTS JUST SITTING THERE. & NOT TO MENTION CHRIS COOLEY, WE COULD HAVE A NICE 4 OR 5 WIDE RECEIVER SET. NOT TO MENTION BY ADDING PATTEN & MOSS OUR RECEING CORE GOT A WHOLE LOT SMARTER, & WHY IN THE HELL HAS NO ONE MENTIONED KEVIN DYSON, HE'S NO IDIOT, HE'S BEEN IN BIG GAMES.
i REALLY LIKE THE BIG BACKS WE ADDED IN THE DRAFT. THEY SHOULD GIVE US SOME DEFINETE PUNCH RIGHT UP THE GUT. & IF ANY OF THEM CAN ACTUALLY RUN WITH THE BALL LOOKOUT. GIBBS DIDN'T WIN 3 SUPERBOWLS BECAUSE HE THINKS HE KNOWS HOW TO BUILD AND RUN A TEAM, IT'S BECAUSE HE CAN! & HE WILL! i WILL BE SHOCKED IF WE DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. i DIDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT OUR DEFENSE YET. JUST THINK ABOUT THIS WE HAD THE #2 RATED D-FENSE IN THE WHOLE FRICKIN LEAGUE. & THAT WAS WITHOUT LAVAR FOR AT LEAST WHAT 10 GAMES, & TAYLOR MISSED SOME TOO. OUR SECONDARY IS SO GOOD IT'S SCARY, OUR LINEBACKERS WILL STICK IT TO YOU, & OUR D-LINE WILL GET SOME MUCH NEEDED PUSH, & STOP THE RUN. IN CLOSING WHEN ANY TEAM COMES TO PLAY IN OUR HOUSE, COME & GET SOME! & WHEN WERE ON HE ROAD WE BETTER BRING AT LEAST 40,000 CASES OF CHEESE CAUSE THE HOME TEAM WILL NEED THE CHEESE WITH ALL THE "WINE"-ING FROM THE FANS!
PEACE OUT....
MONKRULES
AKA MCREDSKINS FROM C-TOWN
[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Basically to put to rest everything you said...

The offseason PROBLEMS that you state we are having are basically centered around Taylor. Evidence and facts are pointing to him getting off scott-free. Gardner was waiting to happen and has since been replaced with Patten, a proven scoring threat, Moss (when healthy) converts nearly half his touches into first downs and others. Arrington has already stated that he's trying to work things out directly with the management and not through a medium, which means he's trying to work things out. I just think he's too proud to go down without a fight.

Last year Brandon Noble played most of the year with that huge club you spoke of and Randy Thomas worked through injuries JUST to get back on the field. Unless ALL the things we've heard directly from the Skins collective mouths has been pure bullshit, EACH player has bought into the team-first mentality.

Our offensive line is one of the top lines in the game. How is it weak? Even people who are biased against us have said we will have more of the dominant lines in the game.

Portis became one of our biggest leaders in the offseason. He is the one starting the team-first mentality. Arrogant on BET? Fine. Arrogant on the football field? Fine too, as long as you back it up.[/QUOTE]

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Why are we even entertaining this?

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Why are we even entertaining this?[/QUOTE]

The sad truth. We are all junkies. This is the worst faze there is. We know the fix is near. We are all shaking, throwing up, and seeing babies crawl on the ceiling. Sad how powerful this drug has become to us. Let's keep our cool guys. We can make it a few more weeks. One day at a time. My name is Dave, and I'm a Skinsaholic.

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Football is like a drug that you try to rehab every year but come August drop out of Rehab because the shakes are too bad!

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When YOU WRITE EVERYTHING IN CAPS!!!! does it mean your screaming?


Thats a lot of screaming going on here!!!

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I know. I guess I just pump people up like whoa.

:)

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Taylor, Portis, and Arrington all bring it on the field. I personally with our complete roster am very excited to for next season. We got speed to spread the field. Arrington, taylor, springs, rogers and griffin on the d all at the same time puts a smile on my face... From what I saw of Ramsey, he was good, and with the confidence of being the leader, starter with a proven running back, fast wideouts, and strong healthy line I can't see why we can't make the playoffs.

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[QUOTE=everest3k]I've been a skins fan and an [b][i][u]observer[/u][/i][/b] here at the warpath for [u][i][b]many years[/b][/i][/u]. (though this is my first post...)[/QUOTE]

Makes you think, who else is [i][u][b]Watching?[/b][/u][/i]

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Two more weeks bitches!!!! Hall of Fame weekend is around the corner without a great but the preseason is as good as the season to me. I can't wait. I hate when i start thinking about the skins next season. I won't be able to sleep, the season is so close i can feel it, i can hear the hits, i can remember the plays of last season and hear the comments made by sport writers

Just take a step back and think, it is possible for any team to win the superbowl. We may start one of the greatest seasons in history, no bad media if we don't preform to off season expectations, because there are none.
It is only us and our team and we will get it done.
It is right here, we wait so F*&^*&ing long and it is finally finally finally here.
[color=red]HAIL TO THE REDSKINS AND HAIL TO FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!![/color]

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Why are we even entertaining this?[/QUOTE]

Not sure why, I guess for the same reason people rubber neck on 395, or watch Jerry Springer . . , , DRAMA! :Smoker:

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First of all, I love you guys! Secondly, I couldn't agree with all of the positive coments more! These so called negative elements that occur during offseason are frankly a part of coaching and running a professional football team. Think about it, Jamaal Lewis actually did a short stint in prison recently, yet the Ravens aren't falling out about it! And from what I can tell from listening to T.O. on NFL network yesterday he too will be in camp when it starts. No disrespect to the guy who started the thread but get a grip, this season the Skins will be fine and tough to beat!! Taylor will be fine, Arrington will be fine, Portis will be fine....and so will the rest of the Skins!!

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[QUOTE=12thMan]And from what I can tell from listening to T.O. on NFL network yesterday he too will be in camp when it starts. No disrespect to the guy who started the thread but get a grip, this season the Skins will be fine and tough to beat!! Taylor will be fine, Arrington will be fine, Portis will be fine....and so will the rest of the Skins!![/QUOTE]
My friend, I heard on Sportscenter, or the centre, TO said somin like..... Trade me if you want to trade me, he said no possible way he is playing w/o the money to support his family. He said that Atlanta might want to have trade talks for him. THat is a kick in the balls to any eagles fan.

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS. I am ready for the season to be under way.

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Let me clarify....during a charity basketball game sponsered by Magic Johnson, which T.O. among others played in, he was being interviewed between plays. He said he was just "getting in some cardio before camp begins". Now whether he was speaking of a new potential team I don't know. I just have to assume, and that's not a good thing, he was speaking of the Eagles.

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Personally, I like all the negative press, sportswriters underestimating us, writing us off etc. That's the way it was in 1981 (some of you may remember). We had just fired Jack Pardee and hired Gibbs. He went 8-8 in his 1st year but had a good core in place...kinda like...now. The following year, '82, The Skins were'nt even mentioned in pre-season polls and were dismissed as having no legitiamate star power, a coach in over his head, etc etc blah blah blah. I think the result turned out ok..(4th &1 - Riggins down up the gut, breaks tackle, streaks down left sideline...). Bitch, moan, gripe, dismiss, count out, let us fall under the radar. I like it. By midseason we'll find out who starts to sing a different tune.

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[QUOTE=dblanch66]That's the way it was in 1981 (some of you may remember). [QUOTE]
i was negitive seven

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[QUOTE=everest3k]I've been a skins fan and an observer here at the warpath for many years. (though this is my first post...)
I like to be an optimist, but this season looks really grim to me. The skins seem laden with excessive turmoil (uncharacteristic for our ball club over the years,) with the Gardner, Arrington, and Taylor situations...especially Taylor...what is that!!
I feel that the dynamics of the NFL have changed and there are a lot of guys just out for themselves and a big paycheck (all over the NFL and not necessarily just with the skins.)
What happened to the good old days with guys like Joe Jacoby, playing with a broken hand in that big old club cast?! Or Darrel Green running back that punt against the bears with a broken rib?! Guys who really wanted to play and win...
I have faith in the defense...and I'm glad we got rid of Smoot as I think he's one of the paycheck guys I referred to above...(but always questioned losing Champ Bailey.)
I think our offensive line is weak, and our recievers are nothing exceptional. I think Portis is arrogant (have you seen this guy on BET or any other outlet?!!) and I just don't know that Gibbs (though he's truly a class act...Look at his accomplishments!!) can rally this group...and at that if they really want to win....all of this, and a more or less "rookie" at the helm...(the team's leadership position)???
I love the skins but don't have a good feeling about the upcoming season. Somebody help me see things in a new light?[/QUOTE]

Welcome to the posting population of the warpath. Sorry your first post had to be negative, but you feel how you feel.

1. Sean Taylor is a young angry thug. As long as he stays out on the field,
(and not in jail) I think I can live with that. Thats probably the guy you
want to count on to intimidate and beat up on your enemies. Just look
at how Ray Lewis panned out in Baltimore.

2. You talk about the older guys playing through injuries, and then slam
Fred Smoot. Didnt he play most of the season before last with a cracked
sternum and not hesitate to come up and play the run? I've cracked my
sternum before and I wouldn't even move my arms more than a couple of
inches. Im not one of those guys who was upset that he left, but he was
a decent player while he was here. Champ Bailey is a Bitch.

3. Clinton Portis ran his ass off for us last year despite his stats dropping and
him not reaching his personal goal of a third 1500 yd season. He's a
team player, participating in all of the ota's, speaking to NFLTA, and he
always has an optimistic attitude about this team.

4. Our OL and WR are championship quality. The easiest way to prove this
would be to match them up to the champs player by player. Hell our
talent exceeds that of the Patriots in those two categories.

The only thing that is a worry is the QB position and I have faith that a man who won 3 championships with 3 different QBs can work with what he's got. Ramsey has the physical QB gifts to be an all time great. Musgrave is coming in this year. He played with and coached some of the greatest QBs to ever play the game of football: Montana, Young, Elway, Manning. We've got the goods. We're kickin down the door this year, and if you're not getting excited in the slightest bit... Well, I just don't know what to tell you.

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[QUOTE=everest3k]
I have faith in the defense...and I'm glad we got rid of Smoot as I think he's one of the paycheck guys I referred to above...(but always questioned losing Champ Bailey.)
I think our offensive line is weak, and our recievers are nothing exceptional. I think Portis is arrogant (have you seen this guy on BET or any other outlet?)[/QUOTE]

First off, you are glad we got rid of Smoot because he just wanted the money. You do realize Champ got traded because he wanted more money too. You think losing Champ hurt our defense? You must not have paid attention last season.

Second off, how can you think our o-line is weak. Samuels, one of the best at his position. Thomas, another one of the best at his position. Jansen, another one of the best at his position. Then we upgraded our center with Casey Rabach, and Dockery is progressing. We have the best line in the division, probably top five in the NFL.

Thirdly, you think Portis is arrogant. That's a good one. Portis is a team leader, he's been here at all the non-mandatory offseason workouts, he hasn't done anything to hurt us yet, i don't see why you think that.

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And also, who cares if he IS arrogant (which he is not)? There's a difference between being arrogant and confident. I think he falls into the confident category. Especially after that one run where he drags like 5 defenders with him and stands up and points to his bicep. I LOVE that highlight.

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As far as I am concerned, Portis can be as arrogant and cocky as he wants to be as long as he backs it up. And I believe that he does. He could have very easily turned in to a whiney bitch last year because he didnt like the offense, but he didnt.

Also as for the question if Gibbs can get the team to rally around him is absolutly crazy. All one would have to do is look at the very last game of the season against the vikings. That game meant nothing to us, our players had no reason to play as hard as they did, and yet the team came out and played as if it were the NFC title game. That kind of thinking had to start somewhere, and I am betting that it was Gibbs...

Welcome to the Talk part of the Forum Everest3K!
 

[QUOTE=canthetuna]Welcome to the posting population of the warpath. Sorry your first post had to be negative, but you feel how you feel.

1. Sean Taylor is a young angry thug. As long as he stays out on the field,
(and not in jail) I think I can live with that. Thats probably the guy you
want to count on to intimidate and beat up on your enemies. Just look
at how Ray Lewis panned out in Baltimore.

2. You talk about the older guys playing through injuries, and then slam
Fred Smoot. Didnt he play most of the season before last with a cracked
sternum and not hesitate to come up and play the run? I've cracked my
sternum before and I wouldn't even move my arms more than a couple of
inches. Im not one of those guys who was upset that he left, but he was
a decent player while he was here. Champ Bailey is a Bitch.

3. Clinton Portis ran his ass off for us last year despite his stats dropping and
him not reaching his personal goal of a third 1500 yd season. He's a
team player, participating in all of the ota's, speaking to NFLTA, and he
always has an optimistic attitude about this team.

4. Our OL and WR are championship quality. The easiest way to prove this
would be to match them up to the champs player by player. Hell our
talent exceeds that of the Patriots in those two categories.

The only thing that is a worry is the QB position and I have faith that a man who won 3 championships with 3 different QBs can work with what he's got. Ramsey has the physical QB gifts to be an all time great. Musgrave is coming in this year. He played with and coached some of the greatest QBs to ever play the game of football: Montana, Young, Elway, Manning. We've got the goods. We're kickin down the door this year, and if you're not getting excited in the slightest bit... Well, I just don't know what to tell you.[/QUOTE]


Welcome to the Talk part of the Forum, Everest3K! See what he said, above!

Also, you might look around. You seem to have lost your Burgandy colored glasses, but I see where you are coming from! Even the local radio talk host and all of his partners in prime-time, here in Hampton Roads & Norfolk are saying the Redskins are at best a 5-11 team. Just because they say it, doesn't mean I believe everything they say! And they brought out every point you made!

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Even though many of those points that DO get brought up in the news are CRAZY.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]And also, who cares if he IS arrogant (which he is not)? There's a difference between being arrogant and confident. I think he falls into the confident category. Especially after that one run where he drags like 5 defenders with him and stands up and points to his bicep. I LOVE that highlight.[/QUOTE]

I love it when skinny guys show off there guns! I think its hiliarous when Randy Moss does it!

We can't forget that Portis is still young as hell and kind of a nut, so he might give off arrogant vibes.... not everybody can be Curtis Martin!

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Also remember Clinton has put on 10-15 lbs. this offseason. He might have a reason to show off those guns.

And yes, when Moss does it, I'm like DUDE WTF.

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This thread is just asinine. Everest, welcome to the board, and I hope you participate more. But your post just didn't make any sense.

Bailey was the biggest money grubber of them all! You talk about Smoot?! Leading up to his free agency status, Bailey said the team he signed with would be a business decision. In other words, whoever paid the most money. He had no loyalty to the Redskins.

We're much better off without Rod Gardner, even if we just end up cutting him. The guy can't catch consistently, and he's not a deep threat.

Arrington's situation has absolutely no impact on the locker room morale or on his play. It's a totally separate issue, which he knows he's going to lose, so he's now trying to resolve it. It will be swept under the rug very soon.

Taylor will be in camp. Taylor will play this year since his trial will be postponed till after the season. He needs to clean up his act for sure, but you have to wonder if the media is making a bigger deal of this than it really is. The media loves to say, "oh this will affect chemistry, oh that will affect chemistry. This is a locker room distraction, that is a locker room distraction." Is it REALLY? Do the other players care? Cooley himself said in our chat that it hasn't affected the other players. They just continue to go about their business. And there's no reason to believe Taylor will be distracted in practices and crap like that. The media just loves to create a story when there really isn't one there. After all, that's how they sell newspapers and magazines.

If you're going to be worried about the Skins, worry about how they'll replace Antonio Pierce's playcalling abilities on D. Worry about whether or not Ramsey will click with his new receivers. Worry about Walt Harris or Carlos Rogers performing as well as Smoot did. But man, don't get all caught up in these stupid media events like Taylor's trial and Arrington's grievance. The papers have obviously gotten to you because you're focusing on these stories that they've pumped up, when they won't have half the impact on our win/loss record that Ramsey to Moss and Ramsey to Patten and Ramsey to Jacobs will. Focus on what matters, don't let the papers tell you what to think.

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I wouldn't take this thread too seriously, seems to me it's someone just trying to get under our skin...

:Smoker:

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Yup. That's what I thought in the beginning...

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Yup. That's what I thought in the beginning...[/QUOTE]I thought the same thing when he said that a rookie would be leading the team.I guess he forgot about Ramsey and saw that we drafted Campbell.That would not be a comment of some one who was observing this sight. They would know Ramsey is our starter.

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I'm kind of bummed. I thought this was a misspelled thread about my all-time favorite Hog...Russ Grimm

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]I'm kind of bummed. I thought this was a misspelled thread about my all-time favorite Hog...Russ Grimm[/QUOTE]


Me too, I read all four pages hoping that we were going to compare the Hogs to this year's bunch (in a positive light). Maybe we can shift course and do as such rather than going "point-counterpoint" to someone who may or may not be a fan of another team. (I'll admit sometimes I post negative things on the Philadelphia Inquirer's fan board just to ire up the Eagles' fans).

Does anyone know the progression of Wilson and Molinaro? What, if anything, has Bugel said about them?...etc...

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I heard a few good things in early offseason interviews. And just as everyone else brought up, if we needed depth at the line, we would have drafted or signed some.

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[QUOTE=Davnpurt]Me too, I read all four pages hoping that we were going to compare the Hogs to this year's bunch (in a positive light). Maybe we can shift course and do as such rather than going "point-counterpoint" to someone who may or may not be a fan of another team. (I'll admit sometimes I post negative things on the Philadelphia Inquirer's fan board just to ire up the Eagles' fans).

Does anyone know the progression of Wilson and Molinaro? What, if anything, has Bugel said about them?...etc...[/QUOTE]You had to read four pages to realize this was not about Russ Grim and the Hogs. I want what your smoking!LOL

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Theres no reason why we cant be awesome next year. Basically, it all hinges on ramsey. He has everything around him he needs (great RB, amazing O-line, depth at WR, and one hell of a defense) so if things still dont go well, i think its time for him to go.

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Thanks for all the true fans who really understand the game of football and are constantly optomistic about the success of the team, and are not disturbed about the negative things said by some who do not want to see us be successful.

It is difficult for me to understand how anyone who watched the team play last year cannot be optomistic about the team's chances this season. Our record of 6-10 was not, IMO indicative of how this team can really perform. Had we taken advantage of a few more scoring opportunities last year, and scored a touchdown or two more, we could have easily been 10-6. We were not very far off in most of the games played, and what's really exciting is the fact we played our best football against the best teams, Philly-Pittsburg towards the end of the season. With just a little more offence we will go 10-6 maybe 11-5. I feel we've added enough on offence to make up that difference we were lacking last year, and bar a rash of serious injury we will be much improved on that side of the ball.

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I bet it was some Philly fan that started this thread.....they deserve T.O!!!

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You guys crack me up!

Every offseason we have alot to get excited about. Every offseason I start talking smack to my friends and co-workers who are fans of Philly, Cowboys, Steelers or whoever. I say that this year is going to be different and ramble off a bunch of reasons and stats like everyone has done in response to this post. Then the season starts and every year we still suck! Save from one decent season, we have sucked for well over a decade!! History dictates that Everest3k is much more likely to be close to the mark than any of you guys.

I mean how many more times am I going to pump myself up for a huge let down? How many more times am I going to open my mouth only to put my foot in it? How many more times will I enthusiastically throw my heart into the Washington Redskins only to have it stepped on? (okay that last one was a little much). There comes a point that even a diehard fan (and I am diehard) has to say enough is enough.......



..........but, this year may be different. This year we have a wild card. This year we have an ace up our sleeves and his name is Gibbs. When he was hired last year, Gibbs himself said that to turn this thing around was going to take a little time and that it wasn't going to be easy, but that it would get done. None of us have any reason to doubt this man's word. That is why I'm getting sucked into the hype again!

As for the media, they are a pack of imbeciles. They all just jump on whatever nonsense is being passed around and reiterate it to death. They would have us believe that a showboat, me first CB who won't support the run and repeatedly jumps to whatever team that will pay him the most, is a more important addition to a football team than a man like Darrel Green. They would have us believe that a man who at one time held every major receiving record in football does not belong in the Hall of Fame. They would have us believe that one of the only men to coach teams to 3 Super Bowl victories is washed up just because he didn't experience immediate success his first year back.

Want to do a fun little experiment? Last year when Gibbs said he was coming back the media couldn't get enough of it. After he won his FIRST game against the Cardinals they were calling him a genius!!! After things started going not so well they all jumped on the same bandwagon and said he lost his touch. Said that the NFL past him by and he just won't be able to adjust. (Let me be the first to say that in a couple of years the rest of the NFL will be adjusting to Gibbs!). The experiment part is how many games do the Skins have to win early this season before the same pack of idiots are all calling him a genius again? Five?... Three?.... my guess is One!

So don't be so hard on Everest3k - he has every reason to feel the way he does. But as for me...........here I go again!