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scrapdog 08-22-2005 09:24 PM

Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
[color=black]Hope you guys kick ass in the NFC this year to overthrown some of the elite teams.[/color]

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[color=black]As you can see from my av, I’m a Steelers fan, and damn proud of it. Let me preface my question to all of you by saying that John Riggins is one of my all time favorite running backs, ever! I watched him in awe during his prime.[/color]

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[color=black]Ok, w/o knowing much of what's been going on with your off season, what is the consensus of the members here of how you’ll fair this year?[/color]

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[color=black]Also, what's you're honest opinion of the Steelers and their chances this year?[/color]

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[color=black]I’m looking for friendly feedback, not smack talk btw.[/color]

skinsguy 08-22-2005 09:36 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
Welcome Scrapdog,

I think the Steelers will be at the top of the AFC this year. I don't see any reason for them not to be. They have been one of the most consistantly good teams in the past several years. Love your coach!

Do you think Staley will stay healthy enough this year?

Yeah, I still miss watching John Riggins run over top of defenses!

BrudLee 08-22-2005 09:40 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
Welcome to the Warpath. As always, fans of other teams are welcome - as long as the $#!+-talk is at a low level.

As for your Steelers, I wouldn't wait around for another 15-1 season. Everyone has a year's worth of tape on Roethlisberger, which will make him less effective. Hopefully, Duce will get healthy for you guys, because Bettis can be much more effective if he's not asked to be a 20+ carry guy at this stage in his (HOF) career.

Your defense should be fine. I'm done second-guessing the Steelers front office - the players they let go year after year are running on empty. I wish we had the same talent (in fact, I'm surprised there aren't more ex-Steelers on the Skins).

I think you'll win the division, but in the 11-5 range.

Of course, I hope you curl up and die on Friday. Other than that, have a great year!

scrapdog 08-22-2005 09:49 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
[QUOTE=skinsguy]Welcome Scrapdog,

I think the Steelers will be at the top of the AFC this year. I don't see any reason for them not to be. They have been one of the most consistantly good teams in the past several years. Love your coach!

Do you think Staley will stay healthy enough this year?

Yeah, I still miss watching John Riggins run over top of defenses![/QUOTE]

Thanks for the welcome.

Duce is slated to be ready and is supposedly in game shape and will probably see some action in the final pre-season game.

Well, in terms of his health, ha!, always a question mark. But when healthy, the man is he a force!!

scrapdog 08-22-2005 09:54 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
[QUOTE=BrudLee]Welcome to the Warpath. As always, fans of other teams are welcome - as long as the $#!+-talk is at a low level.

As for your Steelers, I wouldn't wait around for another 15-1 season. Everyone has a year's worth of tape on Roethlisberger, which will make him less effective. Hopefully, Duce will get healthy for you guys, because Bettis can be much more effective if he's not asked to be a 20+ carry guy at this stage in his (HOF) career.

Your defense should be fine. I'm done second-guessing the Steelers front office - the players they let go year after year are running on empty. I wish we had the same talent (in fact, I'm surprised there aren't more ex-Steelers on the Skins).

I think you'll win the division, but in the 11-5 range.

Of course, I hope you curl up and die on Friday. Other than that, have a great year![/QUOTE]

You mentioned Duce and Bettis, but Parker has been the talk of camp this year....my God, visit some Steeler sites and you'll see. Right now, many are dubbing him as our feature back.

As for a prediction of a season, I hold steady to mine to at least 12 wins. ALL we can do is sit back and watch and hope for our/your team. WTF, remember the Falcons' year 5 or so years ago??

TheMalcolmConnection 08-22-2005 09:56 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
I think that Big Ben is due for a sophomore slump. Just as was mentioned before, don't hold out for a 15-1 season again, but the Steelers will definitely be atop their division. I don't have anything really to base my criticism of Ben on, I just never really saw him make any super impressive throws. The Steelers were a golden example of how the run sets up the pass.

As far as the Skins are concerned, I'm cautiously optimistic for a 10-6 season. I'd be happy with a 9-7 season. SOOO many questions at QB. If you want to know all about those, just read some Ramsey vs. Brunell vs. Campbell threads. A lot of the talk is crazy but the bottom line is at he's probably on a short leash and a true QB controversy could develop if he doesn't play well within the first 3-4 games.

And welcome... :)

TheMalcolmConnection 08-22-2005 09:56 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
Speaking of the Falcons, I'd love to see them crash and burn this year. They'll realize that Vick needs to learn how to actually be accurate.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 08-22-2005 10:00 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
Welcome scrapdog (btw classy introduction). I think your defense is going to be the best in the league (again). I probably don't have as much faith in Big Ben as most others here on this board (he's good but not spectacular), but the offense should be solid. I don't think the loss of Burress will affect the team considerably since he's overhyped and didn't contribute all that much last season. I was a bit surprised that the Steelers didn't draft a running back since Duce is injured and Bettis is aging, but Miller was a good addition and a steal in the late first round. In any event, they should be AFC Title contenders (again).

Just curious, who replaced Vincent on the O-line?

beg8878 08-22-2005 10:03 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
I think the steelers will obviously take a step down in terms of # of wins, still a solid team, but I dont see a superbowl...

I just happen to think Big Ben is going to come back down to earth. I know your strengths are still running and defense, but I just have a feeling the steelers played way over their heads last year.

I'll be rooting for you though. My girlfriend grow up out in PA, 20 minutes from Pittsburgh, and is a big steelers fan.

Good luck!!!

SmootSmack 08-22-2005 10:03 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
Welcome to the board scrap!

I have a couple of questions for you. Who has emerged as the no. 2 receiver, replacing Plaxico?

Also, I think Cowher is an excellent coach. One of pro sports' better coaches. Yet his teams have fallen short on many occassions. Granted, there were times like last year when I'm sure no one outside of Pittsburgh thought they would even get as far as they did.

So anyway, what I'm wondering is, as great a coach and as revered as he is, is there ever any talk of "is this as far as Cowher can get us?" And if so, what are the odds my main man Russ Grimm would take over?

scrapdog 08-22-2005 10:28 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I think that Big Ben is due for a sophomore slump. Just as was mentioned before, don't hold out for a 15-1 season again, but the Steelers will definitely be atop their division. I don't have anything really to base my criticism of Ben on, I just never really saw him make any super impressive throws. The Steelers were a golden example of how the run sets up the pass.

As far as the Skins are concerned, I'm cautiously optimistic for a 10-6 season. I'd be happy with a 9-7 season. SOOO many questions at QB. If you want to know all about those, just read some Ramsey vs. Brunell vs. Campbell threads. A lot of the talk is crazy but the bottom line is at he's probably on a short leash and a true QB controversy could develop if he doesn't play well within the first 3-4 games.

And welcome... :)[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's been kicked around like a dead horse about a sophmore slump on all the Pitt sites. He's proving otherwise in camp BIG TIME. btw, did you happen to the this year's EA Quarterback Challenge....OMG, wasn't Ben amazing?? To further add, he had mentioned prior to the end of last season that he physically hit a wall because he was in shape for a 12 college season and not a grueling 16 (his case 15) NFL season, excluding playoffs.

Well, he vowed that he'd be in much better shape and knowing the playbook inside and out going into camp (the OC promised that the playbook would be fully opened up for this year as opposed to last). Back during mini-camp, he more than proved all of the above by reporting in at 8 pounds heavier (at 6'5" and now 248lb) all in muscle mass and ran a 40yrd time quicker than the tight ends....HELLO! Quicky, even though his short time in the game of the first two thus far (note: it rained like a bitch in Pitt last weekend so it was not a day for any quarterback), he has been dropping jaws in camp and getting praise from all the coaches. One, we now have Ward suited up and we now have a new weapon in Heath Miller and Parker from the backfield, whom I understand has hands like Staley.

TheMalcolmConnection 08-22-2005 10:30 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
Well, this is why I don't frequent other sites fan boards, cause I'm incredibly misinformed. :)
Something is just telling me otherwise...

scrapdog 08-22-2005 10:35 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Welcome to the board scrap!

I have a couple of questions for you. Who has emerged as the no. 2 receiver, replacing Plaxico?

Also, I think Cowher is an excellent coach. One of pro sports' better coaches. Yet his teams have fallen short on many occassions. Granted, there were times like last year when I'm sure no one outside of Pittsburgh thought they would even get as far as they did.

So anyway, what I'm wondering is, as great a coach and as revered as he is, is there ever any talk of "is this as far as Cowher can get us?" And if so, what are the odds my main man Russ Grimm would take over?[/QUOTE]

2nd receiver would now seem to be Wilson.

"there ever any talk of "is this as far as Cowher can get us?".....MUCHO! As for Grimm, slim to none even though he's awesome coach and was an awesome lineman in his day.....man, those days with the hogs....hmm, hmm, hmm, my man, Joe Jacoby (sp) (f'n monster)!

scrapdog 08-22-2005 10:37 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Well, this is why I don't frequent other sites fan boards, cause I'm incredibly misinformed. :)
Something is just telling me otherwise...[/QUOTE]

laughs....I can hardly keep with my own team let alone visiting here.....then again.....

scrapdog 08-22-2005 10:44 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]
Just curious, who replaced Vincent on the O-line?[/QUOTE]

Do you mean Vincent the starter subbing for Kendal Simmons, or Vincent the backup?

I am guessing that the Kemo guy or even Trai Essex are fighting it out as the backup role is up for grabs.

SmootSmack 08-22-2005 11:02 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
[QUOTE=scrapdog]2nd receiver would now seem to be Wilson.

"there ever any talk of "is this as far as Cowher can get us?".....MUCHO! As for Grimm, slim to none even though he's awesome coach and was an awesome lineman in his day.....man, those days with the hogs....hmm, hmm, hmm, my man, Joe Jacoby (sp) (f'n monster)![/QUOTE]

Wilson, the former 49er? How do you feel about him?

What about Ken Wisenhunt (sp?)?

scrapdog 08-22-2005 11:15 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Wilson, the former 49er? How do you feel about him?

What about Ken Wisenhunt (sp?)?[/QUOTE]

Wison has been looking great, from what I hear. Pitt and you guys are on here in NJ on Fox so I'll get my first look.

It's actually Whisenhunt, and I have a few things to say about this man.

When he took over the helm two years ago after his stint as the QB coach, I was like who and what hell is THIS guy?!?

Turns out:

[color=black]1) He was a pretty good college QB[/color]

[color=black]2) His actual IQ is supposedly is that of a genius[/color]

[color=black]3) His ex-college football coach said that 'he's too smart to be a quarterback because he over thinks everything'[/color]

[color=black]4) Learned that you DO NOT CHALLENGE THIS MAN IN A GAME OF CHESS....I loved reading that because aren't coaches in essence chess players with the players being human beings in football? [/color]

SmootSmack 08-22-2005 11:38 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
See I thought he played TE in college, I know he played a few games at TE with the Redskins.

scrapdog 08-22-2005 11:42 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS]See I thought he played TE in college, I know he played a few games at TE with the Redskins.[/QUOTE]

Bingo!

Thanks for the correction. I did not remember that correctly. YES, he was the TE coach and played TE.

The stuff about his IQ and stuff is definitely what stands out with what I read about him.

That Guy 08-23-2005 12:06 AM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
on friday you may see a struggling offense and a weaker CB situation right now (due to minor injuries)... we're better across the board on O from what i've seen so far, hopefully we get from where we are to (at least) average by the time the season starts. our 2nd string D in't as great as i'd like it to be, but our 2nd string oline and down to our 4th string rb seem to be good, qb depth is solid now, but no one's blown us away... ramsey has the arm, but throws some gift ints (bad decisions), brunell looks healthy now and like a real QB, but hasn't played a 1st string D as of yet.

special teams is GOOD so far... massive LB and safety depth for teams, we've already got a blocked FG and above average returns, good coverage etc. last year we didn't have good personel an let people break big returns, were average on returns, fair caught too much (chad morton :P) etc.

dblanch66 08-23-2005 03:01 AM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
Welcome Scrap,
Unlike some folks, I actually think Ben is going to have another strong season. One more year in with the team and he is smart and will learn from his mistakes in the playoffs. I have respect for the Steelers and the NFL is a better league when Pittsburgh is strong. Brings back the ole days of tradition. Now all we need is the Redskins back, the Eagles sucking wang, Dallas crying like little bitches and that will be more like it. Have a good year in PA.

scrapdog 08-23-2005 07:03 AM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
[QUOTE=dblanch66]Welcome Scrap,
Unlike some folks, I actually think Ben is going to have another strong season. One more year in with the team and he is smart and will learn from his mistakes in the playoffs. I have respect for the Steelers and the NFL is a better league when Pittsburgh is strong. Brings back the ole days of tradition. Now all we need is the Redskins back, the Eagles sucking wang, Dallas crying like little bitches and that will be more like it. Have a good year in PA.[/QUOTE]

I agree with your comments about Ben. I've been watching closely with his progress and love what I've been hearing/reading thus far. This comes from a Steelers fan who hated Kordell with a passion!!!!!!!

A personal comment to this board.......
Out of the years of visting opposite team's forums, I can honestly say that this is one of the most pleasant I've visited.

Again, good luck with your season and Goodspeed to all.

CRT3 08-23-2005 07:43 AM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
Not to upset the masses here, but his other thread brings up a bad time in DC. I mention the same kind of thing in Pittsburg and this guy goes after me personally. What a hypocrite to this thread I must say.

Mr predictions for the Steelers upcomming season would be 10-6 with another loss in the playoffs at home.

BossHog 08-23-2005 08:15 AM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
[QUOTE=scrapdog]
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[color=black]Also, what's you're honest opinion of the Steelers and their chances this year?[/color]

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[color=black]I’m looking for friendly feedback, not smack talk btw.[/color][/QUOTE]


Give us back our Russ Grimm. And tell your 'challenged' equipment managers to put a logo on [B]both [/B] sides of the helmet! :oink:

12thMan 08-23-2005 11:34 AM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
I think Big Ben will have a good year. One more year in the same system and knowing the playbook will help. But I don't see 15-1. Perhaps 11-5 or 12-4. Also, didn't they lose a LB via FA and another is out 3-4 weeks? Not sure.

As for the Skins I honestly think we can take 3 out of the first 4 games and finish 12-4 this year. BTW, I still think our D was the best in the NFL last year. Hail to the Redskins!!

monk81 08-23-2005 06:24 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
A Hearty Redskin Welcome Scrapdog............Any team that beats Dallas 3 times in Super Bowls is a friend of the Redskins.

I love Big Ben..........and being a Notre Dame fan, I've always liked your RB Jerome Bettis.

I think the Steelers will take the AFC Norse....

Boller looked terrible....and we are the team to ask about how that translates to wins/losses when your team that has a good defense but poor offense and QB :rolleyes: Don't believe the media hype about the Ravens

Bengals are an improving team---but I just don't think they are quite there yet. I think Marvin Lewis needs another year and draft.

Browns have a long way to go to even challenge.......

GOOD LUCK TO THE STEELERS THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!

Gmanc711 08-23-2005 06:39 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
Welcome Scrapdog.

As for the Redskins, I have my burgandy and gold glasses on, but latley I've been getting really excited aobut this team. I really think the offense is making some strides (if the Turnovers cut down) and I think with Portis we will be a much better team.

As for Pittsburgh. While I think they will defintley fall off from last year (I mean 15-1 is DAMN hard to do in this league) I still think they will be a very good football team. I think Baltimore is going to pose more of a challange than they did last season. But WORST case sceniro for Pittsburgh is the wildcard, I think.

scrapdog 08-23-2005 07:15 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
thx gents for the greeting. again, I always liked the skins and as I stated already, the CowGirls and Feebles are a few of my most hated NFL teams, of course behind the Ravens and Browns (we call them Stains, of course).

monk81, to set the record straight, unfortunately the Steelers did not beat the 'girls 3 times in the SB.

SB1 = Pitt over Minn
SB2 = Pitt over Dal
SB3 = Pitt over Dal
SB4 = Pitt over LARams
SB5 = Dal over Pitt due to Neil Odonnell choking like a little bitch

monk81 08-23-2005 07:24 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
[QUOTE=scrapdog]thx gents for the greeting. again, I always liked the skins and as I stated already, the CowGirls and Feebles are a few of my most hated NFL teams, of course behind the Ravens and Browns (we call them Stains, of course).

monk81, to set the record straight, unfortunately the Steelers did not beat the 'girls 3 times in the SB.

SB1 = Pitt over Minn
SB2 = Pitt over Dal
SB3 = Pitt over Dal
SB4 = Pitt over LARams
SB5 = Dal over Pitt due to Neil Odonnell choking like a little bitch[/QUOTE]

My bad scrapdog......guess I was thinking about y'all playing them twice and naturally assumed a Steeler victory ;) Yes unfortunately now that you mentioned it, the Neil O'Donnell choke..............he was one Steeler I never cared for......
But always liked Lambert (QBs should wear dresses), Franco and his Italian army.....the Steel Curtain, Rocky Blier.........Steelers are a team with a great tradition too....

Live in Texas and we went to a Cowboys/Bears game in the Bears heydey......and on our row was a guy wearing a Lambert jersey....I told my friend....hey our backs are covered even though we are surrounded by Cowboy fans....Lamberts here! :)

scrapdog 08-23-2005 07:47 PM

Re: Good evening, Redskins faithful
 
[QUOTE=monk81]
Live in Texas and we went to a Cowboys/Bears game in the Bears heydey......and on our row was a guy wearing a Lambert jersey....I told my friend....hey our backs are covered even though we are surrounded by Cowboy fans....Lamberts here! :)[/QUOTE]

That is too f'n cool !!


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