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htownskinfan 08-23-2005 12:37 AM

Cowboys MNF Game
 
I'm surprised nobody started a thread on this already. The Cowboys looked so-so, Seattle had a lot of dropped passes, but that DE Dallas drafted that they made a linebacker is a frickin monster (demarcus ware I think is his name,he made big play after big play). He's going to give us fits when we play them.

mooby 08-23-2005 12:44 AM

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i agree. i am a little worried about the way demarcus ware played tonight, i think the stats for him were 1 sack, 1 interception, 2 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery, and 3 tackles. those numbers worry me, who else thinks that they might have a beast here?

JWsleep 08-23-2005 12:48 AM

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Ware looked very good--the roids D will definetly be better than last year. They also ran the ball well with J. Jones. But they did not look good in the passing game. My guess is that if you shut down their run, they are going to have trouble. But no doubt Parcells wasn't showing much, given that the teams play in the regular season.

As for Seatle, they had a nice drive where that west coast holmgren O clicked--just walked down the field. But their D looked unimpresive, and their WRs still were dropping balls. TOs allowed the boys to win in the end.

TOs will kill ya!

I hate the cowboys. Made me ill just to see them. Ugh.

Redskins8588 08-23-2005 02:56 AM

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I think that Ware is a gem that the cowboys have got out of the draft, but I did notice that if a team can pick up the blitz the cowboys secondary sucks...

Bobby Engram made T. Newman look like our Ade Jimoh, and Henry did not look that great either... So as for what I saw of the game, the cowboys D looks slightly better than last year but there secondary is just bad, a "passing" team will have there way with the cowboys!!!!

skin_fanatic 08-23-2005 02:58 AM

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Ware is scary, That man looks very good in coverage and his pash rush ability. But my goodness, I hope we kick their *** twice this year. That would make my whole YEAR.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 08-23-2005 03:05 AM

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On the one hand I think to myself, it's only one preseason game. On the other hand, he looked very, very quick and strong. He beat out Steve Hutchinson (a great guard) to sack Hasselbeck and force the fumble. He also looked very good in coverage (snagging that INT). He could in fact turn out to be the monster that many projected him to become.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 08-23-2005 03:07 AM

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While the Cowboys front seven looked very impressive (even without NT Ferguson), their offense didn't scare me all that much. Jones looked good, but for the most part their passing game stank.

BigSKINBauer 08-23-2005 04:12 AM

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i hear they are having problems with their 3-4 due to injuries and we will not see as much of it as expected before, but Ware is a beast and i have no problem admitting it. Madden said he was confused last week but still those stats were amazing and he was in on every big play that he was on the field. But the rest of the defense played pretty bad. He was the best player on D no doubt. I just think our line can hold any threat that he will impose and he isn't as quick as clinton. I still think Derrick Johnson is the best Defender taken in the draft. woops we play him too:frusty:

offiss 08-23-2005 04:19 AM

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]i hear they are having problems with their 3-4 due to injuries and we will not see as much of it as expected before, but Ware is a beast and i have no problem admitting it. Madden said he was confused last week but still those stats were amazing and he was in on every big play that he was on the field. But the rest of the defense played pretty bad. He was the best player on D no doubt. I just think our line can hold any threat that he will impose and he isn't as quick as clinton. I still think Derrick Johnson is the best Defender taken in the draft. woops we play him too:frusty:[/QUOTE]


Johnson couldn't sniff this kid's jock. Parcells know's exactly how to use a player like Ware he will only continue to get better.

That Guy 08-23-2005 05:02 AM

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dallas still spent a lot of picks on a dline that wasnt the worst part of their D last year... and then overpaid for a craptastic corner (compared to talent available at the same price).

but ware is a monster... those stats are sick and i'm assuming he didn't play the whole game...

still, he's only one guy and the rest of the D seemed a bit bland (coverage etc)... hopefully he chokes hard twice this year ;)

BossHog 08-23-2005 08:02 AM

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You guys are scared, but our OL isn't. :oink:

TheMalcolmConnection 08-23-2005 08:02 AM

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Just like Parcells said, "Don't put him [Ware] in Canton yet."

PSUSkinsFan21 08-23-2005 08:42 AM

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It's only one game, but I gotta say I was VERY impressed by Ware last night. He moves incredibly well for a big man and showed some great instincts in getting at the ball. On that interception, he made up 2 1/2 steps on Jeremy Stevens in like 4-5 strides.......I had to rewind the Tivo and see if I actually saw what I thought I saw......I couldn't believe he had that kind of speed for being a DE last year. Let's hope he's already had his career game.

Other than that, I was pretty unimpressed with the Cowgirls offense.......really, there isn't a single thing about their offense that scares me.

The Seahawks looked, surprise surprise, inconsistent. Overall I thought they looked better on defense than last year (especially the d-line) and Alexander is running well. The WRs (except for my boy Bobby Engram) are still dropping passes right and left. For the Seahawks, the biggest bright spot was probably Jeremy Stevens finally looking like he might live up to his potential and Shaun Alexander giving a very upbeat and optimistic interview on the sideline regarding his contract situation. They are fools if they don't get a deal done with him (and it looks like they will).

TheMalcolmConnection 08-23-2005 08:43 AM

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Actually Julius Jones still worries me a bit. With that o-line and our defense, I'm probably way more worried than I should be.

firstdown 08-23-2005 10:07 AM

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Jones and Ware both looked good but two players cannot win your games for you. Look at us last years we had a whole D that played great and we were still 6&10. We had a great runner in Portis and we were still 6&10. If last night was a look into their passing game teams will stack the line and shut jones down as they did to Portis last year. Teams can game plan for Ware and Seahawks played very slopy foot ball leaving the ball very exposed to the fumbles.

D'BOYZ 08-23-2005 10:27 AM

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It's Good to start smelling your fear, and see your anguish...... and you said it was surreal when I said that even though you can improve Dallas made the most improvements this offseason and right now is a better team hey it can go all sour but still right now they're a better team than yours.

The offense is still playing conservative that's why you didn't saw much of it and rivera also didn't play. You had to see that D love it, quick and agressve and also Ferguson and Spears didn't play in that game.

And if you saw the game you had to see Beirutt the SS #40 smashing all the WR and QB's he's another Roy Williams on the making.

GL this season you're going to need it.

1 more thing I'm starting to hear a Ramsey vs Burnell controversy is this because Brunell is really playing great or Ramsey playing bad haven't seen the games those aren't televised here but just looking at the stats and coments form this week game where ramsey had 2 int. Just wanted to know.

That Guy 08-23-2005 11:02 AM

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]It's Good to start smelling your fear, and see your anguish...... and you said it was surreal when I said that even though you can improve Dallas made the most improvements this offseason and right now is a better team hey it can go all sour but still right now they're a better team than yours.

The offense is still playing conservative that's why you ddint saw much of it and rivera didn't play and you have to see that D love it and also Ferguson and Spears didn't play in that game.

And if you saw the game you had to see Beirutt the SS #40 smashing all the Wr and QB's his another Roy Williams on the making.

GL this season you're going to need it.

1 more thing I'm starting to hear a Ramsey vs Burnell controversy is this because Brunell is really playing great or Ramsey playing bad Haven't seen the games those aren't televised here but just looking at the stats and coments form this week game where ramsey had 2 int. Just wanted to know.[/QUOTE]

umm... yeah, fear and anguish, and an apparent lack of grammar to go with that please... one or two guys had a good game (out of 22) and you're saying "I told you so." Seriously, it doesn't make sense. So, how about instead of these ranting lectures on superiority we wait till week two?

12thMan 08-23-2005 11:06 AM

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer] I still think Derrick Johnson is the best Defender taken in the draft. woops we play him too:frusty:[/QUOTE]

I agree with 100%! D. Johnson may be defensive rookie of the year....could be, don't kill me for saying this, the second coming of Lawrence Taylor!!!

BrudLee 08-23-2005 11:10 AM

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]It's Good to start smelling your fear, and see your anguish...... and you said it was surreal when I said that even though you can improve Dallas made the most improvements this offseason and right now is a better team hey it can go all sour but still right now they're a better team than yours.

The offense is still playing conservative that's why you ddint saw much of it and rivera didn't play and you have to see that D love it and also Ferguson and Spears didn't play in that game.

And if you saw the game you had to see Beirutt the SS #40 smashing all the Wr and QB's his another Roy Williams on the making.

GL this season you're going to need it.

1 more thing I'm starting to hear a Ramsey vs Burnell controversy is this because Brunell is really playing great or Ramsey playing bad Haven't seen the games those aren't televised here but just looking at the stats and coments form this week game where ramsey had 2 int. Just wanted to know.[/QUOTE]
Fear?

You've got your "star in the making" DeMarcus Ware playing the last series of the game - which doesn't say a lot to me about his chances to start in week 2.

Rivera isn't playing, and he had neck surgery three days after signing. I'm sure those two facts are completely unrelated.

You're running a conservative offense. Well, your QB (to steal a phrase) has a statuesque presence - in terms of mobility. Your starting WR's have been in the league a combined twenty years (19 and a half, if you count Keyshawn "vacation" with the Bucs), so I don't see then aching to blow by any DBs - I see them aching. (Admittedly, you have a stud at RB).

I'm afraid of spiders and my wife. I'm not afraid of the Dallas Cowboys.

That Guy 08-23-2005 11:10 AM

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no LT references till the kid's played at least ONE season, please.

TheMalcolmConnection 08-23-2005 11:16 AM

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I'm not afraid so much as I want to vomit each and every single year.

BrudLee 08-23-2005 11:17 AM

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[QUOTE=That Guy]no LT references till the kid's played at least ONE season, please.[/QUOTE]
That's a Dallas trademark.

Julius Jones - like Dorsett and Emmitt had a Frankenstein baby.

[before they signed them](Chad Hutchinson/Drew Henson) is the second coming of Troy Aikman![/before they signed them]

Antonio Bryant - the big play threat we haven't had since Michael Irvin.

Quincy Morgan - a star in the making (I can't believe the Browns only wanted that stiff, Antonio Bryant!)

Justin Beriault (backup to Roy Williams)- "And if you saw the game you had to see Beirutt the SS #40 smashing all the Wr and QB's his another Roy Williams on the making."

D'BOYZ 08-23-2005 11:30 AM

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OK about the D.Johnson I have read the trainning camp hipe but haven't heard anything of his gameplay?? has anyone se him play yet? we play them untill the 14th week so we should know by then how good is he

Now BrudLee Ware played almost the hole game and the int, sack and 1 of his FF where against the seahawks first team offense.

Rivera didn't had Neck surgery he had back surgery and he's 100% recovered from that injury right now his resting a groing injury and should be back for saturdays game.

BrudLee 08-23-2005 11:33 AM

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I stand corrected about the surgery - it still wouldn't fill me with confidence.

12thMan 08-23-2005 11:38 AM

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[QUOTE=That Guy]no LT references till the kid's played at least ONE season, please.[/QUOTE]

....we'll that's why I said could be.

manicd 08-23-2005 11:46 AM

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[QUOTE=That Guy]no LT references till the kid's played at least ONE season, please.[/QUOTE]

How about no LT comparisons EVER!! Never gonna be another LT. He was a mad mad on coke. I think they test for that too often now. HAHA!!!

STPainmaker 08-23-2005 12:13 PM

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Didn't see the kid but he sounds menacing. As long as our RB's can clear his coverage I'm happy.

backrow 08-23-2005 12:26 PM

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]It's Good to start smelling your fear, and see your anguish...... and you said it was surreal when I said that even though you can improve Dallas made the most improvements this offseason and right now is a better team hey it can go all sour but still right now they're a better team than yours.

The offense is still playing conservative that's why you didn't saw much of it and rivera also didn't play. You had to see that D love it, quick and agressve and also Ferguson and Spears didn't play in that game.

And if you saw the game you had to see Beirutt the SS #40 smashing all the WR and QB's he's another Roy Williams on the making.

GL this season you're going to need it.

1 more thing I'm starting to hear a Ramsey vs Burnell controversy is this because Brunell is really playing great or Ramsey playing bad haven't seen the games those aren't televised here but just looking at the stats and coments form this week game where ramsey had 2 int. Just wanted to know.[/QUOTE]

I didn't see the MNF game. But your overconfidence simply masks mis-placed trust. The cowroids are no longer America's team, and oposing players dance on your tarnished star!

I am glad that you cleaned up your posts, however! Your re-hab and GED program seem to be on-track!

dblanch66 08-23-2005 01:16 PM

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Once again, the overreacting has begun over 1 preseason game. Ramsey was pummeled by the fans after one game and now everyone is practically sucking Demarcus Ware's johnson over a nice performance in a ...PRE season game. Everyone has gone totally nuts and completely lost all perspective. NONE OF IT MATTERS. Nothing matters til week one. Period. Full stop. End of story. So simmer down now.

RedskinRat 08-23-2005 01:40 PM

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]It's Good to start smelling your fear...[/QUOTE]<SNIP> :lol:

Check your diaper, you're probably sitting in what you smell.

Run along.

JWsleep 08-23-2005 01:48 PM

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Again, it seems to me (from the minimal evidence provided by last night's game ;) ) that the cowroids are going to have trouble with the passing game. If we can bottle up Jones and make Bedsore pass out of third and long, we are going to get some TOs. I think our D matches up well with their O.

As for the second coming of whomever...easy, cowroids. We'll see. But what happened on that drive when the Seahawks walked 80 yards against your first team D like it was in walk-throughs? No doubt Holmgren saw enough and went vanilla after that. Looked like that soft cover 2 isn't gonna work against a decent passing game. Seems to me the secondary is still a big question mark.

Btw, why did Parcells take a knee with 45 seconds to go in the half? He's had enough of Drew "I shoulda played baseball" Henson? (Is he related to the guy who created the Muppets?) Talk about a vote of no confidence! He didn't even want to practice his 2-minute drill?

monk81 08-23-2005 07:12 PM

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Seattle is known for their weak D yet Cowboys were not that all impressive with their passing game.....should've taken advantage of that more....Seattle beat themselves with those turnovers and they are known as underachievers...especially in a exhibition game...........

Remember guys Jansens back and out line is decent BUT big key again :rolleyes: is Ramsey and we need an effective passing game...........I see will both teams shuting down each others passing game and relying on their defenses and special teams to win the game?????????? I think William's D wins out.....just got a feeling because we play them early in the season............ :dallas:

la73hof 08-23-2005 08:24 PM

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]While the Cowboys front seven looked very impressive (even without NT Ferguson), their offense didn't scare me all that much. Jones looked good, but for the most part their passing game stank.[/QUOTE]

Last week it was Witten that was showcased and this week it was Patrick Crayton

Still not showing anything from Glenn or KJ and thats by design--they're already proven

Ferguson, as you stated, didnt play--and heck, Marcus Spears hasnt even seen the field yet

We have the best depth on the DL in quite sometime--8 DL could make the 53 man roster (on a 3 man DL)

Im not concerned about the secondary we have been vanilla as vanilla

la73hof 08-23-2005 08:29 PM

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[QUOTE=manicd]How about no LT comparisons EVER!! Never gonna be another LT. He was a mad mad on coke. I think they test for that too often now. HAHA!!![/QUOTE]

I agree but for a different reaon--OT's these days are so much bigger and athletic--Ogden Boselli (pre injury) Watler Jones

LT was so far ahead of his time and generation its unreal


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